Praise then darkness, and Creation unfinished.



tfurrows  recently  posted[0]  some  statements  for  consideration
regarding  God,  as  well  as  a personal  statement  of  a  belief
regarding the choice to believe in God.

Those items prompted  some thoughts for me.  Warning: rambling lies
ahead.

The idea of choosing to believe in God has always seemed odd to me,
as in  being difficult  to fathom  - difficult  to accept.  It does
not  fit  with my  own  experience  with religious  belief,  either
possessing(?)  it  or  its  absence.  It really  has  not  been  my
experience that  you can  choose to  believe something.  You either
believe something, or you do not believe it, or you do not yet know
whether you  believe it (your  degree of belief may  even fluctuate
from day to day).

When I was young my parents took my sister and I every Sunday to an
Episcopal church, and I can't say  that I had any serious religious
belief at that time, I probably didn't have the capacity for it. As
a teenager I found a belief in God as some comfort in a time when I
really didn't  have any  close friends  or anyone  in my  family to
confide in. My belief helped me to hold myself together during that
time. In college my belief began to come into question as I learned
more about  the world  and began to  realize what a  mess a  lot of
things really  are. For a  time I continued  to tell myself  that I
believed but eventually I came to a point where I realized I simply
did not. I  wasn't having doubts, I wasn't undecided,  my belief in
the Christian  God was simply gone.  I didn't choose to  give up my
belief, if anything I  tried to hold on to it  long after it wasn't
really there because it was a part  of my image of myself. I took a
comparative religion course on early  Christianity and while it was
truly very interesting and illuminating it did little to settle the
questions that I  had - if anything it probably  helped force me to
confront the fact that I was no longer a believer.

At no point  did I really feel like  I had any say as  to whether I
believed in God. At  some points in my life I  have believed, at no
point did I choose to believe.


My beliefs  now are more  complicated. I  am firmly an  agnostic, I
don't  have a  firm  belief in  God  and I  suspect  that it  isn't
possible for  people to really know  whether God exists or  not. If
God exists, some of the things that  my wife and others I know have
been through in  their lives would force me to  question whether he
deserves worship,  in any case. I  do still pray sometimes,  but to
who or what I pray is up  for question. Mostly I just give a 'thank
you' prayer when something goes  well, not knowing whether there is
anyone there  to hear it. I  also think that perhaps  letting go of
the question of  whether God exists may actually be  better, for me
at least - I  don't think you can reason your way  to belief and it
can drive you crazy trying. I have for the most part let go of that
question - trying to figure out whether I believe in God. It either
comes, or it does not.



If there is a God then  he could certainly come into someone's life
and show them  directly what he wants them to  know or believe, the
early Christians  would have used  the word 'gnosis' for  that. The
less-early Christians decided that all  of the Gnostics' ideas were
blasphemous and  left them  out of  the canon  and mostly  tried to
erase those ideas from existence.  To a great extent they succeeded
and  now  many  Christians  believe  you  need  to  have  a  church
organization telling you what to  believe, which book to read, what
God is like. I don't think that unexamined approach to Christianity
or religion is very healthy.


On tfurrows' first two points, about accepting what God teaches and
asks or  believing in God if  what he teaches is  something you are
willing to  give, I think  the real question is  actually something
different. If what  a religion teaches aligns  with your experience
of life and  the world then you are likely  to accept the teachings
of that  religion. If it  does not then  you are likely  to dismiss
that  religion and  the rules  or precepts  that it  presents. Many
people fail  to follow the  tenets of their religion  very strictly
anyway,  strict adherents  are  in  the minority,  at  least in  my
experience. There are also a  great many people who choose religion
on a social basis for the things it allows them to do, or for other
reasons not  related to their  actual beliefs. Perhaps  some people
have actually received gnosis and  really /know/ what is true. That
is not me  and so I instead  have to do my best  with being betwixt
and between.






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