Subj : FidoNet total Revamp ... To : THEBUTLER4 From : Ross Cassell Date : Sat Jul 12 2008 02:28 pm Hello THEBUTLER4! 12 Jul 08 10:22, you wrote to me: TH> -> Real names please.. TH> -> Did you miss the updates yesterday? TH> I guess I did .. I should talk to you personally at this point .. I am TH> getting VERY frustrated .... No need to be, just tailor your setup to use backbone.na, preferably the one I hatched yesterday... Better yet, start utilizing the link you setup here.. <G> TH> -> Do you have access to your uplinks areafix so that you can make TH> sure you only -> receive echoes listed in the backbone.na, or did you TH> merely turn on echoes with -> the "*" wildcard? TH> Thats what happened .. my uplink just turned everything on .. I have TH> since stopped that and sent in what I wanted to sub to .. however I am TH> still getting orphan echos ... Thats understandable that orphans will come through, you might not have total areafix privileges at 2905/0 (sigh, anutha person using admin aka for tossing mail). Here I have the echoes arranged in groups, some of the groups contain echoes that are not in the backbone files but are perfectly and legitimately accessible by most links, so if I on their behalf or they use the "*" wildcard, they are going to get linked to echoes they have access to. As a practice I do not link them into anything when they first join up, it is their responsibility to use areafix to pick what they want. Most of them do use the "*" wildcard and then trim back, while others turn on specific echoes at a time and build up from there. What I have done is take a copy of the backbone.na, copy it over to a text file, lets say areafix.txt, edit the descriptions out, just leaving the tag names. I then import the resulting text file into a areafix message. Remember the North American Backbone is a transport layer only, we dont provide content. An active echo today can be tomorrows inactive echo or was yesterdays inactive echo. TH> -> I do know what has sparked this, you are the NC of a 2 man net, TH> nothing wrong -> today with 2 man nets. Unknown to you, the other man TH> in your net, sought and -> received a feed from my system and is using TH> it. You a day or so later also -> applied to me for a feed, which is TH> setup by the way, I happened to inform you -> of the link, but I TH> suppose you had designs on him feeding from you.. TH> Not 100% ... While I really dont care who they pull from .. I just TH> know in the past I had to pull from my local NC (so I was told at the TH> time) .. I am now the NC for Net311 so I thought it was "Law" that any TH> 311 net would be pulling from me. so .. its not a big deal .. just TH> wanted to clear it up ... Well you are in Region 15... No wonder... Over the years they have had some of the most draconian practices in Fidonet, especially regarding echomail distribution. At one time someone over there wanted to institute some sort of fee in order to get(stay) listed. Well I am here to tell you that all of that was wrong then and is wrong now, you are free... <G> As a NC, it is not unreasonable for you to ask members of your net to check in with you or at least poll you to check on any netmail you might have. TH> Is there a phone number that I can contact you at? .. I have a few TH> things that I need to talk to you .. however I dont want to do it in TH> open forums ... I guess I could netmail you .. lol .. email me (see sig line) == Ross Fidonet Feeds Or Fidonet In Your Newsreader: http://www.easternstar.info E-mail: ross(at)cassell(dot)us | Blogs/Other Places: http://links.cassell.us .... Martin Luther King Jr, was a Republican! --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20060121 * Origin: The Eastern Star - Spartanburg, SC USA (1:123/456)