Subj : FidoNet total Revamp ...
To   : Ross Cassell
From : THEBUTLER4
Date : Sat Jul 12 2008 10:22 am

-> Hello THEBUTLER4!

-> Real names please..

-> Did you miss the updates yesterday?

I guess I did .. I should talk to you personally at this point .. I am
getting VERY frustrated .... 


-> Do you have access to your uplinks areafix so that you can make sure you 
only
-> receive echoes listed in the backbone.na, or did you merely turn on echoes 
with
-> the "*" wildcard?

Thats what happened .. my uplink just turned everything on .. I have
since stopped that and sent in what I wanted to sub to .. however I am
still getting orphan echos ... 


-> As far as the North American Backbone files go, they are hatched out if a
-> change is made or warranted, but they arent just for the sake of doing so if 
no
-> new information needs dessiminating.

Ok cool .. this is what I needed to know .. 


-> The North American Backbone and other backbones, have in the past 
distributed
-> regional specific echoes as a service to its various links. What we have had
-> happen as regional and zone level politics flared up in the past is links 
make
-> available regional echoes to people not part of the pertinent region, 
therefore
-> most regions have decided to limit distribution of their regional echoes to
-> strictly within their regions and often directly by that regions RC.

Makes total Sence ... 


-> As it turns out, many whom end up helping move the mail happen to be a
-> coordinator. I am both a regional coordinator and a net coordinator, I 
happen
-> to run a fairly sizeable mailhub and I peer with 3 others whom run sizeable
-> mailhubs, 2 of them are regional and or net coordinators and the other is 
the
-> zone coordinator. Alot of this came to be because we either inherited a
-> outgoing RC's links when we attained the position or moving mail was what we
-> were already doing when we attained the position. Other factors are that as
-> Fidonet shrunk, so has the number of "volunteers".

-> What you suggest may have been evident in the past and actually far more
-> feasible during the days of telephone modem transport with the then high LD
-> costs, but no more.

-> If you want to talk about what should be, you shouldnt be using your
-> administrative AKA (1:311/0) to send or receive echomail with, you should be
-> using your primary non-administrative aka.

I agree and was unaware that my mailer was using that address. I will
get it fixed ASAP.


-> I do know what has sparked this, you are the NC of a 2 man net, nothing 
wrong
-> today with 2 man nets. Unknown to you, the other man in your net, sought and
-> received a feed from my system and is using it. You a day or so later also
-> applied to me for a feed, which is setup by the way, I happened to inform 
you
-> of the link, but I suppose you had designs on him feeding from you..

Not 100% ... While I really dont care who they pull from .. I just know
in the past I had to pull from my local NC (so I was told at the time)
... I am now the NC for Net311 so I thought it was "Law" that any 311 net
would be pulling from me. so .. its not a big deal .. just wanted to
clear it up ... 

-> I hope your distress isnt because 1:311/2 decision to feed here?

OO No .. not at all .. Just trying to clear thing up .. 


Is there a phone number that I can contact you at? .. I have a few
things that I need to talk to you .. however I dont want to do it in
open forums ... I guess I could netmail you .. lol ..

Thanks!

Steve Reeves

I will also get the "Real Name" thing fixed asap .


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