Subj : Re: Who's at war To : Dale Shipp From : Aaron Thomas Date : Sat Dec 31 2022 06:08 am DS> AT> What's fake about my summary? It seems accurate to me. DS> DS> You say that Biden did nothing when the conflict began. That is false. DS> He (with other partners in EU and NATO) imposed severe sanctions on DS> Russia. Not severe enough. It was tough talk. DS> It is not just somebody else's war against Russia. If Russia was DS> allowed to annex Ukraine without serious opposition, then his next move DS> might be to play the same thing on other east European countries. His DS> goal is to recreate the Russia empire of old, or at least the equivant DS> of the USSR. Our "opposition" should have ended with those "severe santions" you mentioned. At least at that point we weren't embroiled in a war. Now we are though. Billions in aid is working about as effectively as Biden's "diplomacy." If what you say is correct about Russia trying to rebuild the USSR, then why are we relying on the weak, dilapidated, failed state of Ukraine to curb it for us? It's like giving a homeless person a bunch of cash and telling them "the whole world is depending on you to fight off the Russians," and then they go to the liquor store. DS> AT> negotiated with Putin and Zelenski. "Putin wants to annex your countr DS> AT> and if you don't let him do it, civilians will die, so hand over the DS> AT> keys before someone gets hurt, because you can't afford a war and DS> AT> neither can the USA." DS> DS> Really! You would just turn over the keys and surrender without DS> protest. That would empower Putin to do even more. We can't defend Ukraine by throwing money at them. We tried, and it didn't work. Wanna throw some more money around? Our military can defend Ukraine better than our money can. However, there's probably some concern about our military going over there and finding out the truth about where all our money went. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64) * Origin: CompuBBS | Ashburn VA | cfbbs.scinet-ftn.org (1:275/99)