Subj : Re: Floyd
To   : Gregory Deyss
From : Dale Shipp
Date : Thu Jul 02 2020 02:22 am

 -=> On 07-01-20  07:59,  Gregory Deyss <=-
 -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Floyd <=-

 DS> Yes -- you should open your eyes and your mind.  There was rioting and
 DS> looting by a small number of opportunists at first.  That has been
 DS> replaced by peaceful people protesting the systemic injustice that has
 DS> been going on for a long time.

 GD> Why do people on the left always portray the numbers to be small and
 GD> suggest that a small number of opportunists when they know dam well
 GD> within their heart of hearts that the number is much larger then they
 GD> care to admit.  This is not a small number hooligans, as your
 GD> suggesting...

Numbers are numbers.  I do not portray them, I report or analyze them.
Why do you portray them as being much bigger than they are?

 GD> Open your eyes to realize the number is much bigger and much more of a
 GD> problem.

Open your eyes and ears and listen.  How much rioting and looting has
happened since the initial surge -- which was caused by no where all of
the protestors.  The answer is that there have been many days without
any incident caused by the protestors.

 
 DS>  GD> Why is there a national movement, to de-fund the Police.  
 
 DS> To take some of the money used for violent interaction with the people
 DS> and put it towards more productive community service.  It does not mean 
 DS> to eliminate the police.

 GD> The violent interaction comes when these people think they can not
 GD> adhere to the Police direction and instruction.

The violent interaction comes when the police lose respect for the fact
that all people are human beings and deserve to be treated as such --
and that people are not to be shot in the back or stomped on the neck
until dead.
 
 GD> These people chant about wanting and demanding
 GD> respect and equality.
 GD> As far as equality they are as free as I am or as you are.

 DS> You need to open your eyes and mind.  The people at the heart of the
 DS> protests are not as free as you or I.

 GD> Please explain how they are not free? 
 GD> With the same level of freedom as you or myself.

Are they free to move into your neighborhood and not be subjected to
predujice and scorn?  Are they free to have equal schools?  Are they
free to walk or jog down your street without someone deciding that they
do not belong and then chase them down with guns?  Are they free to get
on an elevator without noticing that the woman who is there tightens her
grip on her purse?

Within my lifetime, I can recall going into a restaurant for lunch and
observing a black couple who had to go to the back door and get food to
eat in their car.  I can recall that my schools had no black students.
I can recall observing black analysts being denied promotion for no good
reason, even though they were as qualified as others.  I can recall when
it was against the law for a white and a black to get married.  Most of
these things are no longer true, but the stain and stigma remains.

                               Dale Shipp
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