Subj : Democrat Protesters
To   : Dan Cross
From : Lee Lofaso
Date : Wed Jun 10 2020 08:16 pm

Hello Dan,

>LL>Milley was there, along with his dearly beloved president, supporting
>LL>those National Guardsmen who followed the illegal orders given them.
>
>You don't know that he loves your dear president.

He was there, giving Trump all his love and full support.

>LL>I quoted the text of the oath of office for the president.
>
>Why? Because you're such a big Trump supporter
>you want everyone to know how you feel about him?

To remind you the oath of office requires the president to defend
the Constitution of the United States.

>LL>I also quoted the text of the oath of enlistment for those
>LL>who serve in the military. All the oaths call to defend the
>LL>Constitution of the United States.

>Military officers aren't enlisted.  You're so ignorant
>you don't even know when you're wrong to accept correction.

I quoted three oaths, with cites. Read them at your pleasure.

>LL>Where do you get the bizarre idea that the military is there
>LL>to defend the president? Please tell. I'm all ears.
>
>I'm not sure why you would ask that, since I never said
>it was?

Milley chose to defend the president, rather than the Constution
of the United States. IOW, he violated the very oath he took as an
officer. Meaning he is not an honorable man, or a gentleman.

>LL>Who gave the orders for the National Guard to open fire on
>LL>peaceful protesters? Washington DC is not a state. No governors
>LL>there to give the orders. Who gave the orders? You should know,
>LL>being retired military.
>
>Apparently, the DC police and your hero Trump.

Which brings us back to the original question I asked at
the beginning of this thread -

"Do you intend to obey illegal orders from the President?"

Given that you are retired military, and no longer active, it is
a question you can easily dodge by claiming you are too old or some
other chickenshit excuse. However, the military man who originally
asked the question answered it himself by his own actions - by
joining the president as troops opened fire on peaceful protesters
who lawfully did their thing on holy ground.

That's right. Your boy General Milley wrote those very words
in a memo to his most loyal followers. And then hopped on the
bunny trail to join his pal Donald Trump at St. John's church.
What a swell guy!

>Oh, and I never said I was retired.  I am discharged.

So was Jack Nicholson, with a bit of help from Tom Cruise.
Please. Tell us how you did it. Was your road trip every bit
as fun as the one Jack took?

>You are so ignorant that you throw these terms around
>without even knowing the first thing about what they
>mean or how the military works.  Typical right-wing
>Trumper.

Hey. What do you expect? I'm a civvie. Just like Trump!
Born to be wild ...

>LL> >Hey asshole, point out where I ever said that anyone
>LL> >in that crowd deserved what happened to them?  Go ahead,
>LL> >I'll wait.
>LL> LL>General Milley said it was okay, by being there with Trump.
>
>No no no.  You said that _I_ was thought that what
>happened to those protesters was deserved.  Don't
>deflect; tell me where _I_ said that.  Be specific.

All of the protesters were peaceful, lawfully protesting
what they viewed as a wrong. It was others who had infiltrated
their ranks who were causing trouble, as they had no interest
in actually protesting a thing.

You see, trouble is where you find it. And those troublemakers
knew exactly where to go in order to find the kind of trouble they
could make.

Most, if not all, of the troublemakers were right-wing radicals.
No evidence at all that left-wing groups such as antifa had anything
to do with it. No credible evidence the FBI or any other federal
agency could find, anyway.

What we have, in effect, is a president gone mad. A president who
wants to make war on peaceful protesters, who have a Constitutional
right to protest.

He thought repression would win him a second term in office.
The polls are proving him wrong, as his ratings continue to plunge
downward into an abyss not even Harry Houdini could escape from.

>LL>Defending Milley's actions is the same as saying the crowd deserved
>LL>what they got.
>
>Milley wasn't even there when the crowd was attacked.

We all know the president cannot stand the sight of blood.
Or the sight of babies crying as tear gas is deployed. So it
is quite natural that General Milley waited until the area
was cleared of peaceful protesters for he and the president
to arrive, with camera crew ready to give him the photo-op
he had asked for.

>You're extrapolating without acknowledging any room for possibly being
> wrong.  That's typical Trump supporter behavior.

There are pictures on social media verifying this for anybody
who bothers taking a look.

>LL>The first cases of COVID-19 in the USA were in February.
>
>Nope.  They were far earlier.

I'm sure. But we did not know it had arrived here until February.

>LL>Mark my words, nine months from February will come the first
>LL>coronababies of the year ...
>
>So you're OK with everything the Trump administration
>does, then?

Trump has no plan. Or rather, the Trump administration has no plan.
Everything Trump & Co. has done, and is doing, is reactionary. It is
reacting to events, and hoping for the best. Without any real plan
of dealing with this public health crisis.

>You're just peachy about the death of 100,000 Americans?

We cure ourselves by dying faster. That is the new plan.
If one can call it that.

>You're fine with the way that people of color, particularly African
> Americans, are disproportionately affected by this pandemic?

Why are more African Americans dying, and at a faster rate, than
other groups? Because they are the ones who keep us fed, and keep
us clothed, and keep us housed. Imagine what this world of ours
what look like if those who have access to quality health care
without having to put their own lives on the line going to work
at meat packing plants, and convenience stores, and grocery stores,
and other places where there are large gatherings of people.

In the state of Louisiana, 32% of the population is black.
And 37% of those who have died of COVID-19 were in nursing homes.
Along with lots of folks in prisons who have died of COVID-19.
Not sure how many who were residents of mental institutions, but
I am sure the state has some records stored somewhere.

>Meanwhile, you fully support your president.

Employeees of a state (such as Louisiana) take an oath.
But never to a president.

Members of a state legislature (such as Louisiana) take an oath.
But never to a president.

Members of Congress take an oath.
But never to a president.

Members of the US Military take an oath.
But never to a president.

The president himself takes an oath.
But never to a president.

What kind of oath did you take?

>LL> >So are you going to show up at one of those reopening protests
>LL> >without a mask and with a gun like the other right-wing nutjobs?
>LL> >You clearly don't care about BLM and you clearly don't take
>LL> >COVID-19 very seriously, so you'd probably fit right in.
>LL> LL>Do realize none of those peaceful protesters have COVID-19. It is
>LL>only those from outside their communities who are infected. So why
>LL>wear a mask? Really no need. Unless one wanted to masquerade as a
>LL>member of the press.
>
>Right-wing groups have stated publicly that they've
>had members infiltrate protests while infected with
>COVID-19 to deliberately spread the virus.  I guess
>you're ok with that, since your president told you
>there was nothing to worry about.  Do you plan on going
>to a Trump rally without a mask now that they are being
>restarted?

The president does not wear a mask while in public.
I have no idea if he wears a mask in private.
Not that it matters, as he claims it is all a hoax.

>LL>Download a digital copy. Plenty of free copies available.
>LL>Take as many as you want. Spread them around for others to read.
>LL>That will make you a true patriot. Of course, you might have to
>LL>explain it to them, and teach them what it all means ...
>
>Maybe you and Ammon Bundy should get together and go
>bowling.  Then you can hit up a Trump rally together.

Why do you hate the Constitution of the United States?
It is a beautiful document, written on parchment, although
the ink is brown and kinda fading ...

>LL>We joke about everything else. So why not COVID-19?
>LL>Can't leave anything out these days. Otherwise folks
>LL>will call you a bigot. Or a racist. Or both.
>
>Yeah, not, you can leave some things out in the name
>of decency.  But if you're a Trump lover, you don't.
>Seems pretty clear to me that you're a fan of your
>Dear Leader.

I made the mistake of putting lemon in my hair in an attempt
to lighten it for Mardi Gras one year. Rather than rinse it out
after a few minutes, I left it in overnight. Woke up with orange
hair, and I never forgave myself. Had no choice but to let it
all grow out, which took time. It was either that, or the razor.

>LL>Donald Trump has done the one thing no other president has
>LL>ever been able to do. He brought us all together.
>
>So you're saying you support Trump.

In a weird way. Hoping he remains in office long enough to lose.
Otherwise we could wind up with Pence.

>LL>That's right. Donald Trump is a uniter, not a divider.
>LL>Remember. You heard it here first.
>
>At least we now know who you really support.

I support the will of the people. Whatever that happens to be.

--Lee

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