Subj : FidoGazette Vol 14 no To : Janis Kracht From : Lee Lofaso Date : Sun Mar 08 2020 10:41 pm Hello Janis, >>Witness; Kracht feels so threatened by truth she openly censors Fido users >> who go counter to what `she' believes. > >Sorry, you are wrong Tim. I only lock out users on my bbs who are complete > creeps... So generally speaking, 99.9% of users are just fine over here... > >I _have_ in the past contacted _your_ system feed for echomail because you > were so wrapped up and intent on posting non-BBBS related gibberish in the > BBBS.ENGLISH echo. Who needs that! Apparently you do. Keep in mind no private elisting has any official status in Fidonet. However, elisting an echo is important for some people. The echo listing for the COFFEE_CLATSCH echo had expired. Bob Klahn decided to shout it to the world, letting all participants in the echo know. Kind of like Chicken Little saying the sky is falling. Bob was told to shut the fuck up, but he refused to listen to a word anybody said. But hey. It was just Bob being Bob. Of course, what Bob posted in the BBBS ECHO is all a pack of lies. But this is Fidonet, where anybody can say whatever they want, true or not. Since he could not post his diatribe in the COFFEE_KLATSCH echo, he had to post it elsewhere. The reality is I re-listed the echo after it had expired, then gave the password to Roger Nelson so that he could re-list the echo for himself. He thanked me for doing so, then we all continued having a jolly good time in his echo, COFFEE_KLATSCH. Without Bob Klahn, who Roger bounced out of the echo. Life is good. :) Subject: BBBS ECHO Date: Thu Oct 22 2015 02:22 am From: BOB KLAHN To: MARK LEWIS There is a long story about Lee Lofaso and Bob Klahn pulling a stunt in the coffee_klatsch echo many years ago. It may date back to that. It may go back further than that. I don't know. But it ended with Lee being disappointed and unhappy. He really knows nothing about it. The coffee-klatsch echo used to be a very friendly discussion echo, focused mainly on having fun and discussing anything that could be made fun of. After a while participation dropped off, and eventually the echo died and went unlisted. A couple years later Roger Nelson revived the echo by using it, but didn't bother to relist it. I suggested he should relist it several times, but he insisted that was not necessary. After a while Lee Lofaso tried to list the echo, but got rejected because Nelson had relisted it just before he tried. Some of the flamers on this echo have repeated the claim that Lee had tried to hijack the echo, but it was not listed and the new echolist was not out showing that Roger had listed it. I had nothing to do with Lee listing the echo other than recommending to Roger that he list the echo. Our fear was flamers would get into the echo and take it over. Which some did get in but Roger had listed it and let them know that he was the moderator and it was a no flame echo. They left. Not one remained. However, the hostility the flamers stirred up, and their repeated accusations, poisoned the prevously friendly discussions in the echo, and a number of us left, including his co-moderator, whose name I can't recall right now. -=end quote=- The time Bob posted the above message was not the same time period when he was active in the COFFEE_KLATSCH echo, but much later. But do feel free to invite him back to Fidonet. He can even bring "the nasties" with him. :) --Lee -- Erections, That's Our Game --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)