Subj : War Powers Vote
To   : Ron Lauzon
From : Lee Lofaso
Date : Mon Jan 27 2020 09:16 pm

Hello Ron,

>GD>if that is true then
>GD>why is it that  other Democrats have indicated that impeachment
>GD>proceedings began days after Donald J. Trump was elected.
>
>DS>You are totally wrong.  Impeachment proceedings did not begin until
>DS>several months ago when the Speaker authorized them.  Impeachment
>DS>investigations did not begin until some time after the information
>DS>about the phone call became known.
>
>Actually, you are totally wrong.

Previous attempts to impeach the president were unsuccessful.

>The Dems were looking for something to impeach him on since before Trump
> took office.  We have them on record saying just that.

He never would have been impeached had he not taken the oath of office.
Not sure it would have been constitutional to allow Mike Pence to be
sworn in as president had Trump wimped out.  But not to worry.  The
new Congress had already been sworn in, and Speaker Ryan was there
to make sure everything worked out okay.

>So instead of someone seeing the possibility of a crime and then
> investigating, we have the Dems investigating looking for something.

With Speaker Ryan (a Republican from Wisconsin) in charge of the
House, how in blazes were Democrats going to succeed in impeaching
the president?  Republicans ruled both houses of Congress, and the
White House.  All the power was in the hands of Republicans.

>Our rule of law is that you are innocent until proven guilty beyond
> reasonable doubt.

Rule of law?  There was none for the first two years of the Trump
presidency.  He had the powers of a dictator, with no check.  All the
Democrats could do was rant and rave.  Nothing more.

Then came the Congressional elections.  Democrats won a majority
in the House.  And Nancy Pelosi was then elected Speaker.  For the
first time in the Trump presidency, a real check was put in place.

And now Donald J. Trump has been impeached.  Impeached forever.
A permanent stain on not just his presidency, but his person.

The Rule of law?  Do you honestly think the Republican majority
in the Senate gives a flying f*ck about the rule of law?  What we
have today is a sham trial.  Not a real trial as one would expect
with any degree of fairness.  Rather than "proven guilty beyond
reasonable doubt" all those law-abiding Republican enablers of
Donald J. Trump are now saying he is guilty as sin but not of
impeachable offenses.  As if treason, bribery, and high crimes
and misdemeanors (however defined) are not impeachable offenses.

The Rule of Law.  A nice thought, but wishful thinking when it
comes to trial by the Senate to convict/remove a president from
office.

The US Constitution gives the Senate "sole responsibility" to
conduct the trial.  On its own terms/rules, whatever those terms/rules
might be.

>The Dems have ignored our laws for quite some time now and are now making it
> very clear that they want to be a power unto themselves - damn the laws.

The Senate rules for the trial are whatever they want them to be.
In this case, the Republican majority, which holds the levers.

Republicans have a majority in the Senate.  They can subpoena
the Bidens even without having to put their beloved president on
trial.  Oh, that's right.  They needed the House to impeach the
MF'er first.

--Lee

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