That's so true. I tend to analogize to sports for most of it but as they're all equivalent, it's sorta interchangeable. But I realized long ago, I'm not a team player. Maybe a team of contrarians... but even then, I might choose to agree with one of 'em now and again, just to be contrary to the contrarian. == Yeah, I might adopt "kin" over "sports" for regular analogy for describing group behavior. Nice - thanks (y) --