Hm. Ok. I can work with that. It brings to mind English speaking
   Western Europe --> English speaking USA as well as works come
   from other sources that have been so successfully incorporated
   into Western learning that they "feel-like" they're English even
   if they're really German or Russian (typically). == and thank
   you - until this moment, I hadn't thought of what incorporates
   what I consider the "construct of whiteness" before but now I
   have something concrete I can work with like emoticon I'll give
   a title or two in the main thread. like emoticon === You're
   right. It gets VERY complicated when speaking of figures from
   Spain and the Mediterranean and Latin America and such. I try to
   avoid it mostly. I'm ok with "European / Western culture" but to
   say "white culture" is, eh... it's got too much baggage and
   includes many Africans in the mix via the cradles of Western
   civilization for White to be really a useful category for me. ==
   Breakdowns by nationality or allegiance is a little more
   specific and practical to work with than racial divisions imo
   generally. WITHIN a particular society, the black/white division
   might be useful. But on the world stage across history, it's too
   mixed. == It's contextual, Brett. It's awkward and messy to
   extend local issues such as subcultural divisions within the USA
   that can be drawn along color lines to the entirety of world
   history for example. You can go back a few hundred years, sure.
   Maybe to 1600s? But before that, continuing racial divisions is
   kinda useless and it's better to go with national or allegiance
   (such as religion) lines. ==