Never learned JAVA though. I hack my way through projects using
   whatever I can at the time. For some features on the Server that
   people wanted - or that *I wanted*, I'd find several plugins
   that, when used together along with some scripts of some kind,
   would make them perform the same functions.

   I _did_ have some good luck using the JSONApi that came out.
   That gave me a LOT of flexibility.   I mean, I can edit JAVA.. I
   just... never liked the whole 'publishing' aspect of it all.
   Actually, I never cared much for programming that required the
   whole packaging process. I guess I like more script-y type
   programming. Immediate feedback, I could leave hooks open to
   whatever I needed to use and I didn't have to make it a complete
   'thing' that had to stand all by itself.

   But, if someone put a gun to my head and I HAD to learn JAVA for
   a project of some kind, I'd do it. Most computer languages are
   comparible once you figure out the quirks of a particular one. -
     I think it's about the same. This thing is either 6 or 8G - I
   don't remember... don't remember the core either. I like it. It
   stays on this back lanai (porch) 24/7, always plugged in and has
   suffered through whatever weather Naples, Florida brings it,
   although I'll bring it in if it's windy *and* rainy.

   Big fan of them. Good laptop, cheap price, no complaints. --- ah
   here - "Pentium B970 @ 2.30Ghz - 6GB RAM (though it had 8 - oh
   well tongue emoticon ) - 64 bit. The 64 bit pissed me off for a
   while, as I had a lot of 32-bit only stuff. But after a while, I
   was able to find servicable 64-bit replacements for most
   things... and I LOVE the extra address space now.