I know quite a few Pythagoreans. They wax poetic about mathematics in a very beautiful way. Look up sometime the way a mathematician describes the Elegant formula, or mathematical beauty. Very inspirational when they get caught up in it. You get a glimpse of somebody who is a true believer in something and it's nice to witness. They don't call themselves Pythagoreans of course. They're Mathematicians or people who are into mathematical beauty. Beautiful quotes - thank you smile emoticon To me, that's their God. They may not use the word but effectively, that's God right there for them. I was there too for a bit. Really marvelous when one is in the midst of it, seeing all the marvelous numbers all around you, the formulas, the skeletal view of things. I see the Universe somewhat like that anyway but the restrictions of mathematics (just with the restrictions of the Scientific Method) hold me back from completely getting wrapped into it 100%. Still, they have their own beauty and each paints beautiful pictures. I'd say that now I'm more enraptured in the beauty of "error" - the gaps, the awkward spaces where "opposites" meet and intermingle. This is the zone that fascinates me most; the areas just outside of being reachable by the pragmatic modes of inquiry yet not quite pie-in-the-sky but rather the awkward, messy zone.