I don't know about Ian but I've never lived among creatives, except for a too short experience at Hampshire College in Amherst in 1990-91. A number of my classmates ended up moving to the same area you are in, including Seattle and other creative venues in Oregon and some parts of California. Had I gone that route, I'd likely have been swept up within quite a number of movements through the years. But I live in Naples Florida now, in a woodsy part at that, and before that, Suburban NJ - 7 miles as the crow flies from 9-11. [I saw one tower standing and the other one just a plume of smoke from the 7th story of my parking garage of my workplace (Schering-Plough) that day. I was supposed to be in building 5 for Unix training from Sept 10-15th but begged my boss's boss to get me OUT OF IT because it was a WASTE of a week's worth of my time, when I was in the middle of a project. [I was a Systems Analyst or something - I dunno what they called it - I was their Excel/VBA guru]. I'm glad I wasn't there because I probably would've had to walk that ridiculous bridge back home, and I'm really bad about not bringing enough snacks with me. I don't think I would've died but it's likely I'd have some coughing problems or something and major PTSD to this day. Anyway... there's a rooster crowing and I always found myself on the outside-looking-in to various exciting creative movements and in a way, it's been a huge bonus. Being removed from it directly, lets me see the societies as societies rather than being a part-of. When I *do* join societies online, I do so from an analytical and psychological point of view and try to find the holes in their thinking... because people in groups that agree with each other frequently are _always_ misisng _something_... often something plain-as-day to outsiders but invisible to insiders. It's lonely sometimes,, as it makes me contrarian in the end, but avoiding excessive agreement while remaining as much of a nice guy as I can, I think has been fruitful to the ever-changing, ongoing nature of my outlook on... stuff.