it was REALLY WEIRD reading the history of Byzantium with the _exclusion_ of the religious context. Felt foreign to me to see it from that light, even though I recognized it as accurate enough. I learned about it through 5 years with the Eastern Orthodox Church, [from around 1995-2000, tapering off towards the end after picking up some Osho books tongue emoticon ) but I was pretty close to becoming a monk. I could live that lifestyle easily. Anyway, did lots of research. It was within a theological context, lots of Desert Fathers, and mystical and practical writings alike about "how to think clearly" and watching your thoughts and feelings as they pass by and such. But there was logic stuff in there too. smile emoticon The sense of continuuity was tremendous and filled in the gap of knowledge I had about that area of the world _and_ of world history in general.