It's also how I win every argument. I'm earnest, give it my everything, and in the end, I walk away knowing at least *something* I didn't know before. That's why I do it. Not to get another person to say, "Gee, Ken, you're right! You're smarter / wiser / funnier / more clever/ more sarcastic than me" or to walk away in shame. I win every argument because my goal is set for learning.