Traffic apps have ruined my commuting life. Sure everyone who grew up in the area agrees; they have their own perspective, the roads they grew up on and traveled back and forth to work with. They'll agree with you, that traffic apps have ruined the commute, but I've also been a courier, tow truck driver and delivery driver all around the Puget Sound area. I know the roads. So if there was a tangle in the commute, or driving, I knew a route that would get me there almost as quick -- before traffic apps. Traffic apps have made it more easy for more people to easily adjust to moving to the area. They've opened up all the roads so more people can live and commute here comfortabley, until that is, there's a traffic jam. Then all the roads are blocked. All the roads I've known, during rush hour now, are now blocked. A commute that normally takes half an hour, during non-peak traffic hours, takes two hours - every day. And there are no alternative routes. Traffic apps have gone full circle. First they made commuting easier, now they've destroyed it. Currently I commute through Tacoma. The City of and the DOT have brilliantly shut down two, actually all, of the older bridges. For a while they restricted truck traffic. They didn't allow semi's to go over the bridges. Now the bridges are shut down permanently to all cars. That's probably the right thing to do, considering all the old rust and deterioration, but that leaves no alternative traffic route through Tacoma. Traffic has one route, I-5 and 509, the Port of Tacoma road, which turns into a parking lot during the afternoon rush hour. If on my morning commute, a car breaks down on I-5 north, in Tukwila, every road is blocked immediately. A commute that normally takes less than an hour takes two or three to get through to work. The other day there was a semi that had turned over, and even the residential streets were blocked. A few days later there was a car fire off on the shoulder and traffic got through with only a minor slow down. The police and fire got there, shut down two lanes of I-5 and immediately, even the residential streets I grew up on, and knew as an alternative commute, were blocked. Traffic apps were a nice idea, but I think the most powerful thing they've done, good or bad, is made it more comfortable for more people to move into an area, and now even that comfort is gone, every day, during rush hour. kbushnel.sdf-us.org/contact.html 18Sep25