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[vermifax] morning
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[dt] hi, seen the news`
[dt] who
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[bronwen] dude
[bronwen] it's pretty unbeleveable
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[phm] !!!
[phm] Terrorism Alert
[bronwen] i can't believe it
[bronwen] it's like a movie or something only worse
[bronwen] there would only be 1 plane in a movie
[phm] yesh!
[phm] scary
[bronwen] i'm never catching a plane again
[phm] also other stuff is going on
[phm] not just planes i think
[bronwen] in case someone decided to fly it somewhere silly
[bronwen] i heard a plane hit the pentagon
[phm] statisticaly dafer than cars though
[bronwen] but the secondary explosion wasn't an extra bomb or anything
[phm] *safer
[bronwen] *nod*
[phm] wow this is serious
[bronwen] it's like midnight here and i was asleep but mick rang
up and told us to turn on the tv
[bronwen] no shit it's serious
[bronwen] the terrorists managed to miss our prime minister who was in
NY today, doh!
[phm] hah
[bronwen] have you seen any footage yet, pete?
[phm] did they let the people from the boat in yet??
[phm] no
[bronwen] no they just sent another lot away too
[bronwen] back to indonesia
[phm] epp crazy world
[bronwen] where the indoniesians said bog off again
[bronwen] so another load to PNG
[bronwen] the world trade centre is seriously broken
[phm] haha
[bronwen] i saw half of it falling down
[phm] geez
[dt] here is the deal so rfar
[bronwen] it is totally unbelieveable that it's happening in real life
[dt] three planes
[dt] one into each tower of the world trade center, the other
into the pentagon
[dt] they were commercial passenger planes, with passengers aboard.
[bronwen] all commercial, all with passengers
[bronwen] you beat me to it
[bronwen] the horror is beyond words
[phm] geeez
[bronwen] all international flights going to the US have been diverted to
canada
[bronwen] I don't see how that will help tho
[dt] fuck fuck fuck..
[phm] bit late.,...
[dt] i jsut hope its americants who are behinfdd it...
[phm] yeah
[bronwen] the palestinians are claiming it
[phm] really!?
[phm] god
[bronwen] bin watsit
[bronwen] bin laden's lot
[bronwen] no idea how true that is though
[bronwen] they haven't any proof so far since it all blew up
[dt] everyone is gonna be claiming it
[dt] thats standard..
<bronwen nods>
[dt] they are also talking about the talibans. but either way, there
is noting for sute re for a good while yet
[bronwen] the second tower has just gone down
[bronwen] gib gib gib gib
[phm] OMG i just saw it on tv
[bronwen] i dont know if we are getting the news delayed or
not
[bronwen] all the ambulance people probably just got squashed
[bronwen] ack
[bronwen] i don't know if I'm going to be able to go
to work tomorrow
[dt] where u live bronwen?
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[bronwen] austraslia
[bronwen] but our pm was in ny today
[weevil] bloddy hell!
[weevil] both towers have now collapsed
[phm] !?!?!
[bronwen] the world trade centre is 2 towers 110 floors tall
[weevil] and another hijaked plane is on the way to washington
[bronwen] well it used to be'
[bronwen] is that 4th plane confirmed?
[weevil] apparantly
[bronwen] sheesh
[dt] quit
[weevil] there was a car bomb too
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[jyunyakb] i am looking the live video now
[jyunyakb] from ny
[jyunyakb] i am japanese
[bronwen] what do you think?
[jyunyakb] realy shock
[weevil] its amazing they fell straight down.
[weevil] were they designed like that, or do you think something exploded
on the bottom floors?
[bronwen] collapsed in on themselves mostly
[bronwen] the planes hit in the middle
[bronwen] so maybe that just weakened the middle and it went soggy
[weevil] if it was weak in the middle, it would topple over
- like a tree
[weevil] besides, the planes hit nearer the top
[bronwen] trees aren't square and made of concrete and steel
[bronwen] but still, i'm surprised they fell like they did
[weevil] yes, but they still obey the principles of gravity.
[weevil] perhaps it was designed in
[bronwen] you never know
[bronwen] a lot of thought had to go into making something that
tall
[weevil] its suprising they didn't try for the white house
[bronwen] where is that?
[bronwen] is it near the pentagon?
[bronwen] maybe thats where the 4th plane is going
[weevil] i'm not sure.
[weevil] I'm from the UK
[bronwen] i'm in australia so i have no idea either
[weevil] they haven't mentioned much about that 4th plane.
[bronwen] don't know if it's a rumour or what
[weevil] have you seen the footage of the aeroplane crashing into the
nd tower?
[phm] was there a bomb on the plane ??
[weevil] no, but it would've been fuel-heavy
[bronwen] yeah
[bronwen] no bomb
[bronwen] just people and plane fuel
[weevil] they're evacuating places in the UK now.
[phm] wow
[phm] this is unreal
[bronwen] the whole thing is starting to make me ill
[bronwen] just thinking about all the people who got hurt or killed
[weevil] just think of the immense amounts of money this is going
to lose - all trade in US and some other countries closed.
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[bronwen] a plane has crashed just north of pittsburg airport
[phm] yeah it certainly planed to make a mess of everything
[bronwen] wonder if that was the 4th one
[weevil] Thank God the IRA never thought of anything like that.
[phm] yeah
[bronwen] thank god we don't have terrorists in australia
[bronwen] only sad angry boatppl
[weevil] well, they didn't have very much in america until now.
[bronwen] guess not, just the occasional bomber
[stdio] help
[weevil] it's really goging to make them think about how powerful their
military is after all - a plane crashing into the pentagon!
[phm] this isnt even the worst case senario
[weevil] ?
[phm] no chemical weapons
[weevil] well, I suppose it's much easier to hijack a plane than
smuggle biological weapons.
[phm] i dont think so
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[weevil] i think it probably is
[dune] i guess i don't have to say aniything
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[hackit] yeah..its true
[weevil] how many passengers were on the plane?
[stdio] no one know
[hackit] a hundred i guess.
[weevil] planes
[dune] i got no snumbers
[weevil] the bbc is estimating the number of dead at 6 until
they get better information!
[hackit] go to go..
[hackit] i need to watch it..
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[jyunyakb] [C:who
[phm] i thought they said only 6 had been confirmed as dead
[jyunyakb] i think it is over 1000
[weevil] they said 6 dead with 1000s injured
[weevil] but they admit that it's likely to be a lot more.
[weevil] what does the state department do?
[weevil] london stock exchange evacuated...
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[weevil] its suprising the towers took such a long time to collapse.
[phm] i think there were explosives on board
[weevil] i think its more likely that there were explosives at the
base of the buildings.
[weevil] I can't see how an explosion at te top would make
the towers collapse straight downwards.
[sallyh] that is truly scary
[weevil] an explosion at the top would more likely make the buildings
topple over.
[weevil] they've got fighter planes over washington now. Took them a while.
[sallyh] ow
[sallyh] wow
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[bronwen] my computer broke :(
[weevil] these terrorists obviously know how to make a big impression.
[bronwen] whats the latest news?
[bronwen] I heard the most horrible thing
[weevil] fighter planes deployed over washington.
[weevil] ?
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[bronwen] people were aparantely jumping out of the building, on fire
[bronwen] thats on about the 80-90th floor
[weevil] yes, that what people being interiewed were saying.
[bronwen] that was from an eyewitness report
[weevil] what time is it where you are in australia?
[bronwen] half midnight
[bronwen] my friend rang me and woke me up so i could
see the news
[weevil] most ppl wont have heard the news then.
[bronwen] not here they won't have
[weevil] part of the pentagon has collapssed
[bronwen] i was going to ring my parents but they probably won't
care
[bronwen] shit
[bronwen] um i mean sh*t
[sallyh] i don't see how anyone can not care
[weevil] 747 crashed near pittsburg
[sallyh] this is serious shit
[weevil] even if you don't really care about america, it's the implications
that are scary.
[bronwen] i heard about that pittsburg one earlier - do they know
if it's related or not?
[weevil] no
[bronwen] hey, I care
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[bronwen] but my mum is asleep so she won't care until the
morning I don't think.
[sallyh] hi laze
[laze] hi
[weevil] I don't think many people in China will be that bothered
[sallyh] sorry i didn't mean it a s a personal attack
[jyunyakb] [C:goto
[bronwen] no i know that :)
[weevil] israel has sent aid o America!
[bronwen] i didn't take it as such
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[bronwen] i'm still pretty much in shock
[sallyh] yeah me too
[gregory] anyone here how this may affect canada?
[jyunyakb] where do you live?
[laze] we are all pretty scared here in the US, I think
[gregory] ya, even us canadians are a little scared
[bronwen] yeah the canadian airports will get all US air traffic
[bronwen] its been redirected, thats what i heard
[gregory] Once it lkands in a canadian airpot, it just stays grounded
[weevil] i'd imagine you were. I think a lot of people near
London are quite concerned
[sallyh] even in london they have evacuated central london stock exchange!
[jyunyakb] it is a BIG loss for wolrd economy
[bronwen] Our govt has asked it it's worth evacuating anywhere here... it's
hardly worth it since it's midnight
[gregory] I guess last year on this day, there was a treaty
at camp david with the isreals
[gregory] coincidence?
[sallyh] really?
[bronwen] probably not
[laze] that's interesting
[sallyh] that is interesting
[weevil] my girlfriend is in the City of London - if there's
any bombs there... well.
[gregory] ya, they should be examing that a bit more
[bronwen] good tip, dude
[sallyh] London has had bombs from ira recently tho i think pple
take that risk
[gregory] someone must know something more then what they're telling us
[bronwen] the ppl who tell us are news reporters
[gregory] or at least I hope they know a bit more
[bronwen] the people who know aren't going to say anything
[gregory] ya, you make a point
[weevil] we know that there's a risk to working in London, but
nothing on the scale that's been demonstrated today. Car-bombs aren't nearly as
fatal.
[bronwen] so all we get is recycled eye witness reports
[gregory] Wonder how long till a hacker finds out more
[jyunyakb] i cant telephone to NY frend now
[bronwen] have there been any car bombs in the US linked to
this?
[sallyh] yeah weevil i guess so
[gregory] I think there was one car bonb linked, i am not
sure where though
[weevil] just the state-department
[weevil] what does the state department do?
[gregory] I just hope this isn't a start of some war
[phm] there talking about retailating
[weevil] by the way, our PM sends his condolences, and his best
wishes to America.
[gregory] ya, I heard that
[bronwen] when i was 1/2 asleep earlier on i thought WE (australia)
were at war with indonesia or something
[gregory] Not good news to wake up to
[weevil] this isn't a military attack.
[bronwen] i hope it doesn't go that far that there is a
war
[bronwen] in retaliation though
[gregory] Hopefully this all works out peacefully
[weevil] the retaliation would have to be a legal matter.
[bronwen] there were 69 ppl on the first plane
[weevil] america can't declare war on a terrorist group.
[bronwen] 58 passengers 11 crew
[weevil] i'm sure they'll get assistance from the country that hosts the
terrorists, though.
[gregory] Now they're saying there was a 747 gone down in opensylvania
[sallyh] but the US have already done that before. look at lybia
[bronwen] i wonder about that pittsburg crash, if it WAS related possibly
the pilot decided it was better to hit the ground instead of
a building so less ppl are killed
[gregory] American airlines say they lost 2 aircrafts
[gregory] you make a good point bronwen
[bronwen] pilots have to make tough decisions like that
[gregory] beinga pilot has to be a stresful, dangerous job
[phm] they planes that hit the trade center must have been flown
by the terrorists
[weevil] I would imagine that the pilots were killed or something, and
that the terrorists flew the plane.
[bronwen] *nods*
[gregory] yep
[weevil] nowadays, planes are highly automated. pilots don't really have to do
much.
[bronwen] most pilots even if they did have guns to their heads,
I would imagine they would rather hit the ground
[bronwen] or at least attempt a landing
[weevil] exactly - you can see how deliberate that flight into the
2nd tower is.
[gregory] At least then less people die
[phm] god 20000(?) work in the world trade center??
[weevil] the NY emergency control centre was in one of the towers!
[weevil] 50000 i heard.
[phm] ugh
[gregory] I heard 50000 too
[bronwen] NOW they say that there is a bomb in a school
near the trade centre
[gregory] I haven't heard that yet
[bronwen] well where it used to be
[weevil] canary wharf has been evacuated.
[bronwen] some guy on the ground is saying it
[bronwen] we're getting cnn and NBS i think
[bronwen] hmm CBS
[bronwen] NBC?
[bronwen] thats it
[weevil] all canadian airports have been shut down.
[bronwen] probably for the best
[gregory] ya, keep the planes grounded, everywhere
[bronwen] 50000 is it's maximum capacity but 20000 were actually in there
[bronwen] thats more people than live in my town
[gregory] oh, okay
[gregory] that is a lot
[bronwen] the mind boggles
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[weevil] wouldn't it be awful if this wasn't done for any real
reason.
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[phm] they cetainly cant have a good reason
[gregory] Never thought I would see the day that the trade center
collapses
[weevil] what happened in Chicago?
[thecolor] It's unreal. Perl Harbor of today.
[thecolor] phm, you see my posts on cypher?
[phm] yeah
[weevil] no - you musn't confuse acts of war with acts of
terrorism.
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[thecolor] I'm tryuing to keep it up to date.
[djm62] wtf
[gregory] Perl Harbor, at least let the US know who they were
[djm62] is it definitely terrorists?
[phm] this is far more scary
[phm] how on earth could they make this happen
[weevil] an act of war wouldn't bother with trade towers.
[thecolor] But they were symbols!
[thecolor] It's the importance of them.
[thecolor] The Unity they were portraying.
[weevil] war gets to the symbols much later on, after they've knocked
out intelligence and military sites.
[djm62] they got that too
[phm] pentagon was hit...
[djm62] It must be someone new
[weevil] yes, but you would initially attack missile silos and barracks etc.
[gregory] If it was war, the US would have been ready, they
would have had warning
[djm62] Intel must at least keep some track of these groupas
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[weevil] i'm cautious to ask how intel is related to this...
[djm62] sorry, intelligence
[starbuck] no intel was aware of that
[weevil] ah
[djm62] no, they were?
[djm62] or no they were'nt
[starbuck] nope not at all
[sallyh] hehehe intel on here means intel!
[weevil] well, they keep on talking about a threat that a palestinian
group made a few weeks ago.
[starbuck] no fucking clue
[bronwen] intelligence.
[bronwen] or lack thereof
[djm62] yeah
[weevil] but you must remember they get 100's of threats a week.
[gregory] I would love to get some real information about this
[bronwen] time will tell
[djm62] got CNN all over the world
[starbuck] man I think my training will be very affected by that
[djm62] what trainging
[djm62] ?
[gregory] ya, what training?
[weevil] such as? I think that two crowded towers collapsing is information
to last a while.
[starbuck] im mil
[thecolor] So many web sites are down due to traffic, it's ahard
to kjeep up but iby radio.
[djm62] ooof
[starbuck] thecolor do you think my training will be affected by that
;)
[gregory] Governemtn is taken action for what initially was planned for a
nuclear attack
[djm62] I think your training will be *affected*
[bronwen] who was nuking who?
[gregory] starbuck, what training?
[weevil] what building in Chicago was hit?
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[starbuck] djm62 I go at the same school as the int does
[gregory] no nuking yet, that is just the severity of it
[djm62] people here from NY?
[starbuck] nope
[gregory] Alberta, Canada
[bronwen] no
[starbuck] ny is on shut down
[bronwen] whyalla australia
[phm] comunication is down
[starbuck] kingston canada
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[thecolor] b Canda 's air is shut down too.
[sqrl] help
[djm62] comms out- seriously?
[bronwen] yeah
[starbuck] I think I will have plenty of job in the near
future
[djm62] I thought maybe no-one would be bothering
[thecolor] I hope they don't call people back to the military, if
it gets worse.
[starbuck] there is not in-and out in NY now
[sqrl] echo
[djm62] wher're the sdf machines?
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[sqrl] exit
[smj] hey so whats going on?
[gregory] yep:echo
[smj] world war III?
[djm62] not much
[bronwen] well they obviously didn't get blown up
[thecolor] Seattel dmj
[starbuck] thecolor I think it would be more something like a cold
war
[sallyh] sounds like it could be smj!
[thecolor] Still freaky.
[gregory] very freaky
[thecolor] I'm trying to keep cypher up to date, you see starbuck.
[smj] I don't watch the news.
[smj] I don't watch TV.
[bronwen] me either but a freind phoned me
[weevil] jesus - you people seem to love the idea of war
resulting from terrorist attacks.
[djm62] Palestinians
[bronwen] what do you know, smj?
[gregory] There better not be war
[starbuck] they dont know who made the attacks yet
[smj] Well, someone just emailed me and told me we were at
war.
[thecolor] Exactly. We can't have a war without knowledge of who started
it.
[bronwen] its terrorism only so far
[weevil] like I said, you can't declare war on a terrorist group.
[bronwen] 3 planes, 2 for each tower of the WTC and one
for the pentagon
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[starbuck] it was very planned though
[djm62] I almost hopt it's home-grown
[thecolor] the plains were the US's too. Just hijacked
[djm62] I like my air breatheable
[starbuck] one of them was going to canada
[weevil] four planes - there's one unaccounted for,
[phm] local security sucks apparently
[darklady] too many different and coordinated attackes to be homegrown
[smj] no way.
[smj] I'm looking at the CNN page.
[thecolor] phm, you realize you are still sitting on cypher as petepete?
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[djm62] there's got to be some retribution
[phm] yeah. so?
[starbuck] this was fucking all planned long ago
[smj] It looks like this is an act of war.
[darklady] the death toll in NY has to in the 1000sends
[thecolor] Just making sure you knew.
[thecolor] I didn't want any hanging shells, as that happend with my
first system.
[weevil] it looks like an act of -terrorism-
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[starbuck] it is
[thecolor] I was making sure it was occupid.
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[bronwen] really, if i was going to start a war i'd start
blowing stuff up and not telling anyone what i was doing either
[djm62] it's going to cause trouble...
[weevil] yes, but you wouldn't bother with the trade towers.
[starbuck] bronwen that is the job of the int to find those
who wants to do that but this time they failed
[bronwen] yeah i know
[djm62] the ramifications are going to incvolve a lot of bloodshed
[starbuck] weevile its the first target I would pick
[bronwen] as the tv dudes asked of the terrorist specialist, why didn't
you guys work it out??
[thecolor] smj, can my com, beconnected with yours at all?
[starbuck] trade center and pentagon
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[weevil] why? It's got no military value! And then you'd have Americanmilitary
bombing your country...
[djm62] I hope the US can find who did it
[weevil] without damaging america very much.
[smj] terrorism, war, what does it matter?
[bronwen] aahhh but the american military isn't bombing ANY country are they
[starbuck] weevile they dont have a fucking clue about who did this
[djm62] before starting a war
[weevil] there *is* a difference - trust me.
[smj] Do you call what the US does in iraq tterrorist? no
its war.
[starbuck] and without the trade center is a fucking major target
[smj] well, its not a fucking video game.
[sallyh] that is because you are in the US..if you were in
iraq you wld call it terrorism
[smj] Do you know how large those buildings are?
[weevil] war is when you hold an entire country to account. Terrorism
is the acts of a small group of people.
[thecolor] over 110 stories each
[bronwen] 1400 feet tall
[bronwen] 110 stories
[smj] were.
[smj] Nah, this is war.
[starbuck] theyre are fucking gone
[bronwen] 20000 people
[bronwen] at a guess
[djm62] RIP
[thecolor] not including those outside hit by rrubble
[bronwen] not all of them
[weevil] Yeah, well I'm sure people that were in canary wharf in
London when it got bombed ...
[sallyh] they are showing Jerusalem pple celebrating because of it
[phm] many of them got out i belive
[weevil] knew it wasn't an act of war
[smj] cnn has no more news than this bullet list.
[djm62] no way! jerusalem doesn't need war
[smj] thats pretty fucked up.
[bronwen] all the news pages i tried timed out
[starbuck] fuck it could be anyone
[sallyh] but the US has bombed Israel
[gregory] bronwen trie cnet.com
[starbuck] chinese
[bronwen] oh apart from that
[smj] Yeh it cuold be.
[djm62] sallh: when?
[bronwen] i didn't count it because there wasn't any news there
[gregory] its the only one up
[thecolor] smj, can my com (cypher) be connected to sdf for a
larger comnmunication group?
[bronwen] very minimal anyway
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[starbuck] anyway I go to bed
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[bronwen] I'm going to have to go to bed too
[djm62] bed?
[bronwen] its after 1am and i got work tomorrow
[bronwen] today even
[bronwen] being in australia and all
[weevil] g'day (chortle)
[bronwen] geez i don't know how i'm going to sleep
[weevil] sorry.
[bronwen] i feel sick to my stomache
[smj] Yeh This is too weird.
[bronwen] g'day mate
[gregory] not good at all
[smj] extremely surreal.
[phm] yeah
[weevil] The Queen sends her best wishes, and expresses her disbelief.
[bronwen] i thought yesterday was bad
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[bronwen] one of my closest friends from my childhood I found out
was on herion
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[bronwen] but this is a way worse shock to the system :(
[weevil] bad week.
[bronwen] all round
[smj] Yeh..
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[weevil] I'd imagine finding your firend to be an addict would be
more shocking - it's more personal.
[smj] the US might tally up civilan causalties.. but not like this
guys.
[bronwen] anyway i just hope they find more ppl alive than dead
[smj] when we are doing terrorist stuff like you said.
[bronwen] (my friend already had a lot of drug problems, this was
just another even WORSE one)
[weevil] there were people jumping out of the higher floors on fire
:(
[djm62] bugger all alive after that
[bronwen] i know i know
[bronwen] don't give me night mares :(
[bronwen] I've already had nightmares for 5 nights running anyway
[bronwen] night all
[weevil] take some time off work - get some rest, mate.
[laze] night
[bronwen] heh I wish i could...
[bronwen] nighty night
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[djm62] man...
[dvnt] anyone in here
[laze] my company is actually closing for the day.
[dvnt] actually in NY?
[djm62] going
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[laze] everyone's just watching TV anyway.
[thecolor] where do you work laze?
[laze] boston actually
[weevil] it's remarkable how everybody beefs up security *after* attacks.
[weevil] surely they should do it before them?
[laze] we're all wondering if anyone from our place was on the
American flight that was hijacked
[weevil] it makes much more sense.
[weevil] the flight was going to LA.
[weevil] there were tow American Airline planes hijacked.
[laze] the one from Logan, I mean
[laze] We have an office in Brea, CA
[laze] at this point it looks OK - no one was definitely
on it.
[weevil] well, I must go now. best wishes.
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[dvnt] ?
[dvnt] damn, how do you get out of here?
[thecolor] type "quit" with a colon first
[thecolor] ":quit"
[dvnt] ahh, thanks :)
[thecolor] no
[thecolor] prob
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[alky] hello.
[thecolor] Hey alky, you get my mail?
[thecolor] alky?
[phm] hi
[ 11-Sep-01 16:15 ] azteca@sdf has joined ny.
[thecolor] waz up phm?
[azteca] hi, everyone...
[thecolor] alky is not listening.
[phm] in shock still
[thecolor] hguess so.
[phm] this is just the tip of the iceberg so to speak
[ 11-Sep-01 16:17 ] azteca@sdf has left ny.
[thecolor] Really, do you have more info?
[phm] no.
[phm] i just think that
[ 11-Sep-01 16:18 ] jordi@sdf has joined ny.
[phm] this cant just be forgoten
[thecolor] tell me about it.
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[pascal] DD
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[alky] anybody awake here?
[phm] yeah
[alky] Hi phm.
[alky] man, this is crazy shit.
[ace] hi
[alky] I wonder who did it.
[thecolor] alky you rget my mail?
[alky] yeah, I just checked it.
[alky] I can't connect.
[alky] cypher.7thsign.net?
[thecolor] uyes. ssh or ssh only.
[thecolor] I have locked telnet
[alky] ok, was thinking that.
[alky] it pinged just fine.
[ 11-Sep-01 16:30 ] hackdesk@sdf has joined ny.
[hackdesk] hi all
[alky] hello.
[hackdesk] anyone here from usa ?
[alky] yes.
[alky] where are youy from hackdesk?
[hackdesk] news about the crashes ?
[hackdesk] is usa really under attack ?
[alky] 4, with many casualties.
[hackdesk] is this thew
[hackdesk] cnn is blocked out over here
[hackdesk] holland
[alky] mainly 2 buildings with 50000 capacity, gone!
[hackdesk] wish you all the best over there
[alky] estimated around 40000 people possible killed minus some evacuated.
[hackdesk] do they know who is responsible yet ?
[alky] only speculation.
[hackdesk] ok thanks
[hackdesk] may i bother you later for more updates ?
[alky] where are you from?
[hackdesk] holland
[phm] read the com review...
[phm] much info here
[hackdesk] netherlands europe
[hackdesk] how do i get com reviuw ?
[alky] ah.
[alky] you oculd :review or type :dump for the whole log.
[phm] ':review 999
[phm] '
[hackdesk] cnn is backed out over here...
[hackdesk] ok thanks
[phm] or something . that is if you have a bufffer
[alky] really? why?
[hackdesk] i diont know
[phm] lots of news site are crashed
[hackdesk] asusa.com is also black
[alky] I bet.
[alky] I'm sure there are lots of traffi.
[alky] er.. traffic.
[hackdesk] usa.com black
[hackdesk] news.org black
[thecolor] I'm trying to keep cypher up to date (for the most
important suff alky/phm
[hackdesk] ass press site is down
[hackdesk] thank you all... later.....
[alky] bye
[phm] geez
[phm] surreal
[thecolor] what phm?
[thecolor] yes!
[thecolor] I can't believe people jumped from the Trade center.
[phm] its horrible
[thecolor] very!
[thecolor] Have you ever been there phm?
[phm] no
[thecolor] Now we will never get a chance to see a piece
of history.
[phm] heh
[phm] at least we live in interesting times
[thecolor] Where is wall street in relation to the Trade Center buildings?
[thecolor] Indeed.
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[phm] possibly the most imortant time for humans
[thecolor] Sntr McKane is stating that this is an :"Obvious" attack of
war.
[phm] depends on definitions
[thecolor] If you know of people who need a *nix shell similar
to sdf, they can mail accounts@cypher.7thsign.net
[phm] or sdf.,.,?
[thecolor] yes, kjust advertising.
[phm] hah
[ 11-Sep-01 16:42 ] smj@sdf has joined ny.
[phm] sdf will always be the number 1 shell
[smj] yeh fuck of fthecolor.
[ace] lol
[thecolor] I never said it was not.
[thecolor] I'm new, just learning.
[phm] its good
[ace] but we dont have free telnet or gcc here..
[smj] major places have been attacked in the US and this guy
adverts.
[phm] i like chocolate i eat lots
[smj] how fucking insensitive!~
[ 11-Sep-01 16:44 ] thecolor@sdf has joined ny.
[smj] go away spam.
[phm] haha bad people
[phm] nobondy understands
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[smj] yes, no one understand.s
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[phm] except rei maybe
[alky] nobody understands what?
[thecolor] dude, you were joking early t
[thecolor] I was just conversing,
[smj] you don't understand about this!
[phm] rei and i
[alky] I understand as well as anybody else I'd say.
[phm] and sm and mj .maybe
[alky] You know something I dont'?
[phm] forget it
[ace] rei?
[phm] hari seldon
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[ace] http://www.nj.com/policescanner/
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[alky] what's that site ace?
[sfakian] help
[ace] New Jersey police scanner
[alky] I mean.. wht kind of information ..
[alky] ok.
[sfakian] HELP
[ 11-Sep-01 16:50 ] thecolor has left ny.
[corey] who..i heard about the NY / PENTAGON attack. HOw many dead
?
[phm] thousands
[corey] FUCKING A!
[phm] both WTC buildongs collapsed
[corey] i heard a plane is still missing.
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[phm] yeah
[alky] a 5th plane?
[phm] they sent jets after it...
[alky] huh, I haven't heard of that.
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[ace] no one is reported dead in the pentagon.. just that a
plane crashed into it and that its been evacuated
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[corey] I haven't seen any video of it.
[corey] (yet). Is the video clip of the event awesome?
[phm] its just incredable
[smj] why do you need to see a video?
[darklady] CNN just reported that a conservative estimate of people in the
two buildings is 30000
[alky] I saw some video of the pentagon.. it looks bad, but
not too bad.
[alky] well., any is too bad but.. you know.
[phm] you wont belive it
[corey] why not smj? ENTERTAINMENT.
[alky] what!
[alky] entertainment?!
[phm] better than films.,.,..,.!!
[alky] fuckoff.
[corey] VOYEURISM!
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[sfakian] leave ny
[smjalso] seems as if you can't talk freely in here without getting
booted. corey.
[corey] FREE SPEECH! :)
[alky] 10's of thousands of innocent people just lost thier lives, and
you call it entertainment?
[phm] people are like that
[phm] dont pretend there nice
[smjalso] Not saying entertainment here, but free speech is important. Helps some
understand
[cham] can anyone give a good argument as to why these terrorists
are being called cowardly?
[corey] life wil go on...I am just curious.
[phm] this is big tho
[corey] I wonder who did it.... ? Usama BIn Laden (How do
you spell that???)
[phm] nothing is the same after this
[corey] Anarchists?
[cham] not that I support any of this at all, but it
doesnt exactly seem cowardly to die for a cause
[corey] Eco-terrorists?
[smj] I ckilled him.
[sfakian] quit
[alky] terroist? hmm..
[phm] bio weapons will be next
[phm] fucking scary
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[alky] I wonder if it's really appropriate to say that.
[sfakian] help
[smjalso] free speech alky
[alky] declaration of war.
[sfakian] k sorry how do i get help in here?
[alky] I'm not shooting down free speech people.. get off it.
[alky] say what you want... reprocautions can accur.
[cham] ?
[smjalso] no but it seems smj is shootingpeople who convers about other
topics in here.
[phm] such as?
[alky] whatever.
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[sfakian] bye
[cham] wow.. a huge event worthy of discussion is occuring, and all
we can worry about is proper chat ettiquite
[smjalso] he killed that dude thecolor several times
[sfakian] end
[sfakian] how do i leave the com utility?
[smjalso] type :quit
[smj] he was advertising.
[sfakian] thanks
[ 11-Sep-01 16:57 ] sfakian@sdf has left ny.
[smj] I kill all spam.
[smjalso] So he mentioned his site one time, buig fdeal.
[phm] haha
[smjalso] He was talking about the subject also.
[smjalso] Just brought up another subject shortly
[alky] smjalso=thecolor. :)
[phm] g.d
[phm] same ip.. that dosnt mean..
[alky] did he kill your session or something?
[smjalso] Huh?
[alky] nm
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[smjalso] I noticed that people in here advertise their sites all the
time.
[phm] calm down
[smjalso] ok
[smjalso] Just trying to be fare.
[phm] hee
[phm] impossible
[phm] was that a pun? :0
[smjalso] is it?
[smjalso] impoissible, that is.
[phm] really? how so?
[phm] fare/fair was....??
[smjalso] No, is it "impossible" your words.?
[smjalso] Yeah, so I can't sepll.
[phm] typo or pun?
[smjalso] typo
[phm] ohh :(
[phm] didnt you learn nothing is fair?
[smjalso] Just stating, if others can mention their sites, then others should
be able to sport theirs ones in a wehile.
[smjalso] It's not like they are "
[smjalso] spamming" using sdf's mailing sys.
[smjalso] Now that would not be cool.
[mith] how come i still have running water, electricity, and phone service?
[smjalso] where ar you mith
[ace] ur in ny?
[mith] how come i can still watch cable tv and listen to
the radio?
[smjalso] afk
[mith] no.
[mith] these terrorists suck.
[phm] just as well
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[mith] if i can't go into work, i'd better still get paid.
[smj] So did you know there were four planes?
[mith] well, i've got to go put on my gas mask and
get my shotgun now..
[smj] the military had to shot one down.
[smj] shoot.
[mith] where'd you hear that?
[smj] my bosses's husband is in the military and called up.
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[cham] I heard the same one. F-16s scrambled on the plane headed
for the pentagon
[smj] they are forcing planes down that aren't responding to radio.
[cham] er thing
[smj] they've landed one, but shot down the other.
[smjalso] The president is adressing the nation
[cham] cnn?
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[mith] fuck the president
[hellchik] re ;)
[smj] hi
[hellchik] hi
[smjalso] nice
[mith] wait, he's the guy that's supposed to talk to us and
calm us down
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[smjalso] You don't lke him mith?
[mith] i'd rather listen to a reporter
[smjalso] ok
[smjalso] At least he is making sense so far.
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[smjalso] No grammitcal mistakes yet
[phm] dont be so much sensitive
[smjalso] shorty, look at your other teminal.
[mith] oh you can hack any thing that you want...
[trmedia] i want to knnow why.
[hellchik] anyone knows the freequency of cnn?
[ 11-Sep-01 17:11 ] cathcart@sdf has joined ny.
[mith] with just teco and ddt
[trmedia] cnn is not available on antenna-FM
[hellchik] mh shit
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[phm] 92.7Mhz
[hellchik] thx
[pietro] who
[pietro] who wants to explane me what happened?
[smjalso] Alot pietro
[trmedia] they blew up the world trade centers in NYC
[pietro] i'm from switzerlanbd and i 'm back now from work
[trmedia] they hit the pentagon
[smjalso] the state scneter
[trmedia] they crashed in pittsburg
[smjalso] hijacked several plains
[trmedia] they hit camp david
[smjalso] *(planes)
[mith] camp david really?
[pietro] who did so?
[trmedia] really
[trmedia] the palestinians
[hellchik] die paldstinenser
[trmedia] and bin laden
[azteca] Now my love problems seem like they are not problems...
[smjalso] No, that is punisihing those that did not do anything.
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[pietro] azteca.. i guess
[mith] let's all go to church and pray for the palestinians
[hellchik] good idea
[azteca] Compared to what's happening.
[smjalso] WE need to find out who specifcly.
[pietro] who bvelieve in god in there?
[trmedia] the palestinians were cheering when they found that our country was
under stress
[tec] i
[pietro] i don't
[trmedia] and that we had fires
[trmedia] and explosions
[trmedia] the were cheering
[trmedia] and laughing
[mith] i cheer
[smjalso] You are there?
[pietro] which in you is from one of those cities?
[smjalso] How can you tell?
[trmedia] ?
[trmedia] how can i tell what
[tec] ?
[smj] I've not hread anything from my exgf in manhattan :(
[smjalso] I hope she is ok.
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[pietro] why you say ":_("?
[trmedia] because his g/f is there
[smj] because she works in lower manhattan.
[smjalso] Does she not have any other communications
[azteca] This is not the way to resolve anything... but let's remember
how many people have died in... Vietnam, how many mexicans killed by
border patrol agents... etc... I don't support any act of terrorism... but
the us has done terrorism also... but " legal" terrorism.
[pietro] oh
[trmedia] where they bwew up the trade centers
[pietro] azteca you're right...
[trmedia] we should pull the trigger on bin laden
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[mith] i'm hoping for more attacks
[smj] The problem is this is the worst terrorist attack ever.
[ethanhnt] killing leads to more killing
[hellchik] me too @mith
[pietro] the arabian have said something in a language that everyone understands!
[smj] where do we draw the line between war and terrorism?
[trmedia] its a fine line
[mith] when we can't fight back?
[trmedia] that is crossed often
[pietro] smj.. ther's no line
[pietro] see ya people, i'm going
[trmedia] it's like peral harbor
[hellchik] do you think it _is_ war?
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[trmedia] not war
[trmedia] the only enemy is bin laden
[smj] well, pearl harbour was nothing.
[smjalso] peral harbor for today.
[mith] ah, a failed attempt to attack camp david.
[smj] you know what happened after pearl harbour?
[trmedia] we should kill bin laden
[trmedia] the japanese celebrated
[smj] yes they shot the plane down.. a passanger plane and our
own military shot it down.
[azteca] yes ... killing leads to more killing. let's just stop... jejeje
i'm a little shocked...
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[trmedia] it was going to kill more than were on board
[smj] yes, but nagasaki and hiroshima were destroyed.
[trmedia] including them on board
[smj] have you ever been there?
[smj] I have..
[smj] there is still structures left with obvious traces.
[hellchik] and people
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[smj] Yes.
[tec] what happended in America
[trmedia] in no way am i promoting the united states use of
nuclear weapons in the fight against bin laden, but we should not
just sit and watch him destroy our country
[djm62] anyn news about who was responsible
[trmedia] bin laden was
[djm62] was it bin laden?
[hellchik] nope
[trmedia] yes
[mith] okay, i aughtta go now
[smjalso] A nuclear fight would be much worse!
[djm62] definitely
[ 11-Sep-01 17:20 ] akirax@sdf has joined ny.
[trmedia] it was
[ 11-Sep-01 17:20 ] mith@sdf has left ny.
[djm62] how do you know?
[trmedia] its on reuters.com
[trmedia] go take a look
[trmedia] if its not down right now
[ 11-Sep-01 17:21 ] celica@sdf has joined ny.
[tec] and its on www.cnn.com
[azteca] Damn! The borders have been closed... I live in Tijuana... and
I think that people are very worried here about this.
[djm62] just home from work...
[hellchik] well... he just said that he is schuldig
[trmedia] people should be worried
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[djm62] schuldig?
[celica] the thelp
[cathcart] /?
[hellchik] german word... dunno the english
[trmedia] bin laden 2 weeks ago said he is doing something, and
2 weeks later this happens... seems suspicious...
[hellchik] *dictionary*
[trmedia] it has to have been him
[trmedia] unless he claims responsibility for something he didnt do
[k0deman] my condolances to the help
[hellchik] schuldig = guilty
[djm62] gotcha
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[djm62] got to pick up some german
[k0deman] oops, sorry, new to this com thing! :) my condolenses to
the people with friends and family affected!
[hellchik] and i gotta get up some english ;)
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[smjalso] smj have you heard fromyour ex-gf yet?
[azteca] USA... "All your base are belong to us"
[ 11-Sep-01 17:25 ] cathcart has left ny.
[trmedia] ?
[djm62] ?!?!?!?
[smjalso] funny. azteca
[smjalso] Your' so advertising a song though. Careful
[hellchik] don't understand.. would anyone explain?
[azteca] http://www.planettribes.com/allyourbase/index.shtml
[k0deman] i gotta switch stations, brb
[k0deman] quit
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[smj] per reuters:
[smj] 208.188.18.22
[smj] An Arab journalist with access to bin Laden told Reuters in
London that the renegade Saudi three weeks ago had warned of an
"unprecedented attack" on U.S. interests.
[shorty] smj
[smj] azteca this really isn't a game.
[shorty] CT[3~
[trmedia] somebody ought to make a rainbow six mission for this
[shorty] The color would like to know when he can have his
account back.. he is bummbed that he cant' log on
[hellchik] well i gotta go now... don't understand anything
[hellchik] bye
[hellchik] argh how do i quit from here?
[smjalso] type :wuit
[smjalso] no, :quit
[hellchik] thx
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[celica] lsikdjfasdf
[djm62] what hapened with color?
[ 11-Sep-01 17:30 ] bayres@sdf has left ny.
[smjalso] He got booted, accorind to shorty.
[ 11-Sep-01 17:30 ] k0deman has left ny.
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[celica] everyone has left NY!
[splits] hey
[djm62] splits
[smjalso] I believe it!
[azteca] life is a game
[splits] there are still people here
[splits] life is shit!
[shorty] yep
[brogers] you in NYC area, splits?
[splits] nope sorry dude
[splits] but i heard about the things that went on
[brogers] I'm in Dallas, TX. Work is near DFW Intl airport closed
the building and sent everyone home.
[celica] what the hell did they have against the ppl in the
WTC
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[splits] that was some bad stuff
[smj] seatac is closed.
[smj] my office is closed too.
[smjalso] Most airports are.
[smjalso] Are you in contact with your ex yet?
[splits] yeah i wish my school was closed
[splits] but i live in england
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[trmedia] all airports are
[trmedia] closed
[splits] so..... it probably wont be
[djm62] you're far enough away to be safe
[smjalso] Seattle Center is closed also.
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[trmedia] all world trade centers are closed
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[djm62] all of them
[trmedia] no baseball games tonight
[kocok] hi all
[splits] woa theres a alot of people here now!
[james1] hello
[celica] we need to destroy palantine
[kocok] what's ?
[trmedia] all government agencies are closed
[djm62] don't be stupid
[trmedia] except FBI
[trmedia] it was Bin Laden
[kocok] that's great .. US on red alert :)
[smjalso] That will not solve the problem, jkust make it worse.
[aeoe] wheres yr proof
[james1] not realy
[trmedia] look on reuters
[ 11-Sep-01 17:35 ] tec has left ny.
[smj] An Arab journalist with access to bin Laden told Reuters in
London that the renegade Saudi three weeks ago had warned of an
"unprecedented attack" on U.S. interests.
[splits] fuck up palantine!
[kocok] celine : why u want destroy them ?
[djm62] no!
[nociasso] is there any confirmation on the attack on camp david?
[splits] cause i haae them!
[smj] the plane was shot down.
[splits] *hate
[smj] on its way to camp david.
[nociasso] i see
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[smj] a passanger plane and our military shot it down.
[kocok] lol ...
[djm62] for God's sake, do you like breathing air?
[brogers] hate is what drives events like this to occur
[djm62] smj- really?
[kocok] yes u rite . hate make this world more stupid
[aeoe] smj: ive heard that elsewhere, what is the source of the
report?
[smj] Yes.
[smjalso] yup, and a war (attacking them) will do just that.
[smj] US military.
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[aeoe] holy shit
[aeoe] hfuck
[smj] we've had alot of mobilization here.
[aeoe] where are you
[brogers] reuters seems to be down
[smj] there are major bases in washington.
[djm62] did starbuck leave?
[smj] washington state.
[brogers] yeah... was thinking of starbuck earlier
[kocok] how bout city of Ny rite now ?
[alky] realy we shot it down?
[alky] the best move I suppose.
[smj] Yes.
[smj] it wouldn't respond to radio.
[alky] yeah, I heard that.
[kocok] smj ? who r u ?
[smj] another was forced down.
[shorty] wonder where Color wehnt to
[brogers] the shoot down was the Pennsylvania plane?
[shorty] he was just in he a min agao
[alky] a plane was forceddown?
[smj] he was spamming here, so he has been kicked off.
[alky] was it hostile?
[shorty] well you let him back in some time ?
[smj] shorty, shut up.
[shorty] <emoet please don't kick me off for asking
[smj] just shut up.
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[smj] god.
[smjalso] Nice smj.
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[kocok] US state is fucking shit people
[smj] us state?
[smjalso] You can have concern about the US, but not a person?
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[smjalso] oine person.
[smjalso] *one
[kocok] ok
[alky] smj.. what's the story on the plane forced down? did it
crash? or forced to land?
[aeoe] i havent heard anything about USAF shootdown on the tv, maybe
watching the wrong channel..
[kocok] but all of them generally
[smj] he was using this channel to spam.
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[phm] haha
[smjalso] Everyone here nearly uses it to spam their sites.
[phm] your still talking about that
[smjalso] Common.
[kocok] wait a minute ..
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[phm] lusers.
[kocok] shootdown ?
[smjalso] "freedom"
[nociasso] of course they aren't going to broadcast that yet
[smjalso] of speech.
[smjalso] and much more
[kocok] smj .. can u tell me something bout shootdown
[phm] whatever
[smjalso] Is this site hosted in the US?
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[djm62] not big on US, but no-one deserves this
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[brogers] smj: was plane shot down the one in Pennsylvania?
[smj] Yes, there was a hijacked passanger plane headed for camp david.
our US military tried to contact it via radio, it did not
respond so it was forced down by firing at itt.
[smj] No.
[aeoe] smj: whyt is this not on tv?
[alky] oh, I thought you were sayingsomething about another plane.
[brogers] I have a brother in law in PA.
[alky] think about it aeoe...
[smj] We just got word from a military official here.
[smjalso] , that explains the lasck of freedom.
[smjalso] *lack
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[smj] he is keeping us up to date.. which is cool.
[alky] who wants t osay that we shot down a civilian plan
with 50+ people aboard.
[smj] Yes.
[celsojr] q
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[b00ji] smj: qqqqqqqq:Q
[kocok] wow 50 people have been killed by US military ? is
it true smj ?
[nociasso] where is camp david geographicaly
[celsojr] quit
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[aeoe] alky: guess not.. but someone talked otherwise there wouldnt be anything
about it on irc
[alky] pensyvania.
[celsojr] exit
[alky] er.. however it's spelled.
[smj] The plane would have killed more people kock.
[ace] are you sure it was the military? and not the secret
service?
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[celsojr] chelp
[alky] it makes sense that the plane was shot really.
[celsojr] help
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[celsojr] left
[k0deman] media here says we're (canada) opening our airport up for flights
to reroute here.
[alky] it was heading for camp david.. the president might have been
there.
[dvnt] celsojr, you have to ype a colon before your commands
[djm62] celsojr - ":help"
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[alky] and if it hit camp david.. more than 50+ would have
died.
[afay] A man on the Penn. plane called from his selphone. He
said he was locked in the baroom.
[afay] that's bathroom.
[aeoe] kodeman: CNN said the US-canada border is closed, as well as
US mexican
[b00ji] hheeeeeeewwewe://sassaddasdsadsakjkjdask
[kocok] kill 50 people not give solution for fight w/ terorism
[smjalso] I understand that color guy was arpa. So, do you give
him his mony back smj, or screw him?
[afay] He told officials that the plane was being hyjacked, and it
was no prank.
[alky] they would have died anyways kocok.
[alky] just like the rest.. why let more people die?
[kocok] where bush rite now ?
[brogers] smjalso - it's a donation!
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[smj] cock I mean kock, the world trade center was DESTROED.
[alky] nobody knows.
[smj] destroed.
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[alky] well.. not the media.
[smj] destroyed.
[smj] sorry.
[gremgrem] was
[smj] 50,000 people work oin those buildings.
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[k0deman] yeah, but flights that are already in the air from like
asia, paris, etc can be rrerouted here (calgary) and probbibly toronto, edmonton,
etc.
[alky] yeah, that's a massive amount of life.
[kocok] WTC is the source of suffering the third world !!!
[smj] it is estimated that 30,000 are dead.
[gremgrem] was the plane that crashed into the WTC building hijacked?
[smj] good for you, kock.
[djm62] kocock: don't be naive
[afay] 30,000? I just heard estimated 10,0000.
[kocok] lol
[alky] and where do you get that idia kocok?
[alky] idia=idea
[k0deman] gremgrem: from what i understand from the news, i think it
was?
[aeoe] kodeman: i see, i see
[phm] t10613 t10614 t10615 t10618 t1062 t10620 t1064 t1066 t1069 ?
[kocok] i got it .. coz i'm come from the 3rd country
[djm62] WTC!= capitalism
[nociasso] laughable remark publishers should be punished
[aeoe] kocok: : so what?
[alky] shit.. capitalism isn't killing anybody.,
[aeoe] kocok: i dont think 3rd world people like bombs
[djm62] lmfao
[kocok] djm62 : rite WTC is capitalism .. it better if them
ve been destroyed
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[djm62] no,
[djm62] WTC is a load of people at work
[djm62] ex-people
[alky] fuck you kocok.
[brogers] kocok: what the hell are you saying? that those people deserved
to die?
[alky] I hope you die.
[kocok] capitalism isnt killing anybody ? how bout hunger people coz capitalism
?
[alky] I want to reach out and smack your bithch ass and
break your fucking head.
[smj] don't just say statements, you need to back up your argument.
[nociasso] is do you even know the meaning of the workd capitalism
[djm62] kocock- capitalism isn't the issue now
[nociasso] true
[alky] how about hungry people need to get there ass out and
work. get a job bitch!
[djm62] WTC != capitalism
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[kocok] alky : once again .. capitalism make people suffered
[kocok] alky : why u get angry w/ me
[aeoe] kocok: yeah, well, this really helped. congrats. now e e everything
will be better.
[phm] its such a meaningless disscusion..
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[smj] cock, you can either shut up about politics anad listen, but
or you should leave.
[brogers] your grudge against capitalism does not justify the deaths of thousands
of individual people
[aeoe] kocok: just like mcveigh really 'improved america', blowing up a bunch
of babies
[alky] because I disapprove of yoru opion.
[k0deman] no, captolism does what it is suposed to..it put captial in
hte economy. people, some people, mis use it! captolism is a tool.
[kocok] capitalism is the issue .. coz the tragedy is bout WTC
and US
[alky] damn tpos.
[alky] gah! typos.
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[smjalso] alky, give him a break. Freedom of speach man, not fights
[smj] the US isn't a capitalistic country though.. we're a dictatorship. We're
all under control by corporations.
[smjalso] It's a discussion
[alky] well guess what wise guy.. the WTC being down is going
to hurt alot of people.
[alky] yeah, and I have freedom of speech too. so backoff.
[phm] its meaningless
[nociasso] smj: i am told there is still a plane missing, what
have you heard
[b00ji] smj: that's a bit extreme doncha think?
[djm62] kocock- with respect, you don't know
[aeoe] this country is gonna be a police state now, thanks alot
[smjalso] I realize that, but what is arguing going to do ?
[kocok] i think it would be better if we not talking bout
capitalism or anything else such fucking shit talkong
[smj] okay, I'll hold back on the gasoline.
[aeoe] and very ciolent and bitter
[afay] I heard an hour ago that all planes were accounted for.
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[alky] yeah, shit talking is worthless... afk.
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[jlw] quit5help
[kocok] it's better if we thhink .. who involved in this tragedy
[afay] At the time, 50 planes in the country will still up,
22 coming to the US were still in the air.
[smjalso] TRue,
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[smj] thanks cock.. you can stay if we just keep politics out
ofit.
[b00ji] am I supposed to be able to see what I type?
I have never used COM before
[afay] But all were in the process of landing
[smjalso] put the powers of researvch together and find out.
[smj] type :ECHO
[b00ji] right
[djm62] sdf ain't a democracy
[gremgrem] ECHO
[b00ji] thx
[gremgrem] ah, got it
[smj] yes sdf is a dictatorship and I'm the dic.
[nociasso] dick
[k0deman] sweetm thanks smj! :)
<djm62 kowtows>
[phm] good dictatorships work best
[k0deman] wetm = sweet
[aeoe] you know
[smj] I agree.. as long is the dic is cool, all i
want is dic.
[gremgrem] hehehe
[phm] A.I is cool
[aeoe] if the internet was involved, alot of things are going to
be shut down
[kocok] djm62 : sdf or anything elol
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[smj] like sdf?
[phm] yes!
[smjalso] Does anyone have connections with that group that can find out
more accurate info, or know if someone does?
[aeoe] hope not
[smjalso] Hey, links help
[smj] Well, they are asking people to leave here.. so I'm going
home now.
[brogers] this could hurt the availablity of crypto to general public
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[kocok] we have a freedom to speak rite ?
[magnus] I think we can kiss pgp goodbye, don't you?
[jlw] ;:quit
[shorty] i got the newse PGP
[aeoe] i could definitely see alot of things coming down, like illegal
to own unix
[shorty] bullshit
[djm62] don't get para
[jlw] eer, how do i leave?
[djm62] =paranoid
[aeoe] all CS degrees have to take an oath of loyalty or
something
[nociasso] type :quit
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[k0deman] maybe i'm a bad guy, but i'd sort of like to
hear what hte supossed terrorist group or country has to say. why?
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[djm62] It doesn't matter
[kocok] btw .. i feel so hapapy coz US get bussy coz
their capital shits on WTC
[afay] I don't think any group is taking responsibility for the attacks.
[brogers] maybe now would be a good time to download the source
code to GPG
[kocok] afay : why ?
[djm62] unless they think they can win a world war, they've hurt
their cause
[djm62] well executed, but senseless
[phm] mad
[k0deman] hmm, they (media) was saying something about a muzlem group, i
think, but i could be wrong, i can't remember there name.
[kocok] world war ? whay ? coz US is fucking shit world
police ?
[afay] bin Laden's group says that he is incapable of putting together
such an attack, and that BinLaden is upset at the attacks.
[magnus] Yup, people are gonna think maybe Echelon wouold have spotted the
terrorists in time...
[smjalso] I thought I heard something about an Amesh group that became
tired of their tradition.
[brogers] heh
[djm62] whoever can do this must have some resource
[aeoe] brogers:L actually, now would be a good time to wipe all
encryption off yr hard disk and pretend you never heard o f
it
[djm62] they can't leave no trace
[kocok] hey .. anyone can tell me ..
[brogers] not resources just organization
[brogers] or coordination
[kocok] why WTC got collapsed ? by bom ? or weak building
?
[afay] ``We are not supporting terrorism. Osama does not have the capability.
We condemn this." -quote from Abdul Hai Mutmaen, talking to Reuters newsman.
[phm] its scary that it was so easy
[brogers] because a fucking plane crashed into the middle of it fuels
tanks full of jet fuel
[aeoe] ppl are not going to think logically about anyones rights, they
are going to think about the threat to their own lives and
are going to panic, like in every war situation
[k0deman] and not to make lightof the situation, it is tragic, but
who ever pulled this off, did there home work. it can't be
asy to do this kind of thing!
[smjalso] Causes quite a boom.
[phm] easyer that it should be
[afay] I imagine that this is the end of skyscrapers. I can't
imagine another building taller than 40 stories being built ever again.
[djm62] they must have done something with airport security
[kocok] smjalso : who got the boom ?
[aeoe] afay: that sucks man , damn
[djm62] unless it really is laughably bad
[kocok] terorism or US themself . lol
[smjalso] the buildings got the boom.
[kocok] aeoe : who sucks man ?
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[k0deman] anyone think i could be an internal group, blaming a knowen
terrorist group? at all possible?
[phm] anything is possible
[smjalso] ANYTHING!
[kocok] i hope white house got birthday cake too just like WYTC
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[afay] kodeman- I sure hope it's not an internal group.
[smjalso] Remeber the attack in 1993?
[k0deman] afay: yeah, that would scary.
[cyclops] More carefull
[brogers] kocok: spitting venom is not lending to discussion. your hate is
not welcome. join discussion or please leave.
[smjalso] This just finished it off.
[cyclops] World againt US ??
[smjalso] Against the WTC
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[cyclops] yah ayh
[kocok] actually againts the US
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[phm] in many ways i think its less trouble if it was
an internal group
[cyclops] Don't thing again that Us is the superpower country :P
[cyclops] lol
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[cyclops] world know
[kocok] quit
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[cyclops] kock ??
[phm] ':quit'
[afay] bus service and train service has been stopped on the East
Coast
[afay] The US-Canada border is closed.
[brogers] superpowers even have trouble dealing with "the network effect". terrorist groups
are not generally organized in a centralized fashion, or even hierarchical.
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[cyclops] really ??
[afay] I'm sure glad I don't have to be anyplace today.
[k0deman] phm: perhaps less trouble, but for me more disturbing!
[afay] other than here (at work)
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[cyclops] qquit
[cyclops] quit
[phm] less chance of world war if its internal.
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[smjalso] type ":quit" less quotes
[brogers] phm: agree. I see your point.
[k0deman] truth absolutely.
[djm62] yeah
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[smjalso] here is an update for all new comers.
[smjalso] 12:30 p.m.: The FAA says 50 flights are in U.S. airspace,
but none are reporting any problems.
[smjalso] 12:15 p.m.: The Immigration and Naturalization Service says U.S. borders with
Canada and Mexico are on the highest state of alert, but no
decision has been made about closing borders.
[smjalso] 12:15 p.m: San Francisco International Airport is evacuated and shut down.
The airport was the destination of American Airlines Flight 77, which was
one of the aircraft to strike the World Trade Center.
[smjalso] 12:04 p.m.: Los Angeles International Airport, the destination of two of
the hijacked American Airlines flights, is evacuated.
[smjalso] 11:59 a.m.: United Airlines confirms that Flight 175, from Boston to
Los Angeles, has crashed with 56 passengers and nine crew members aboard.
Emergency personnel at the scene say there are no survivors.
[smjalso] 11:26 a.m.: United Airlines reports that United Flight 93, en route
from Newark, New Jersey, to San Francisco, has crashed in Pennsylvania, southeast
of Pittsburgh. The airline also says that it is "deeply concerned" about
United Flight 175.
[aeoe] fuck
[aeoe] world war? im moving to canada or some shit if that
happens
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[phm] well im in england and imaffraid
[cyclops] who is the teorsm
[cyclops] i want to know them
[cyclops] and give they a gift
[cyclops] lol
[phm] g.d
[brogers] no moving to canada if borders are closed.
[phm] i cant understand some stupidity
[afay] I just heard on the radio audio from the streets of
the West Bank. There are people celebrating because of the attack! I
couldn't believe it!
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[brogers] cyclops: let's discuss... not spi spout hatred.
[brogers] afay: they are a desparate people.
[aeoe] world war will not come for at least a few months,
surely the borders will have opened up by then
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[brogers] afay: they have been kicked out of their land with the
help of and support of international coimmunity
[shorty] cancda is the best place around @@
[aeoe] before they can draft us all to go bomb arabs
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[afay] ``It's an unbelievable disaster. It is touching our hearts. It is
very difficult to explain my
[afay] feelings. God help them, God help them,'' Arafat told reporters in
Gaza.
[engen] part
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[afay] Do you believe him?
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[wse] hey alky
[brogers] afay: I believe him. Perhaps his people do not follow him
as closely as you might think.
[wse] This is the legacy of a Democratic President
[wse] the lack of support he gives his National Security results in
tradgities like this
[torzillo] Hoefully the budget for intelligence will be increased
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[dvnt] I agree with brogers.
[wse] It already has been
[afay] brogers: I do too.
[brogers] we can be certain the defense budget will increase
[afay] But, I don't see the land as theirs.
[wse] The CIA is already recieved mass amounts of tanks and jeeps
from the former russian soviets
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[torzillo] ThThey have the passenger manifest on all the planes - why
can't they make a correllation?
[brogers] afay: you don't have to agree with them, just understand their
perspective.
[monteiro] whatsr
[monteiro] whats happen now
[brogers] torzillo: I'm sure they're ding that now.
[wse] There prespective is one of terror.
[afay] brogers: well, if we're going to argue about land, we'l get
nowhere.
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[brogers] wse: that is not their perspective but their technique
[monteiro] i'm in brazil
[wse] True.
[brogers] afay: true.
[afay] I don't think there is a solution to that issue. I
just had hoped it wouldn't affect us.
[wse] I mean, lets face it, how many stories down is there
in the Pentagon?
[monteiro] q
[wse] about four above, plus 15 or so down?
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[brogers] monteirowhat did you last hear?
[aeoe] how are things in brazil?
[wse] British government is taking this seriously too
[monteiro] in brazil the econic is bad, but no more
[monteiro] economic
[mcoms] no flights are taking off or landing here... (uk)
[brogers] the stock market is down?
[wse] Canary wharf is shut
[brogers] in Brazil
[smjalso] I can't imagien why
[wse] all government agencies were on standby today
[monteiro] teh news show images for ny
[mcoms] bbc1 is locked on news24...
[brogers] the news keeps showinfg the same things over and over again...
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[torzillo] They closed the stock market. Good idea - otherwise there would
be a mass sell off of stocks...
[wse] attn: did you hear about the gunshots at the Pentagon before
the plane hit?
[brogers] no
[wse] ummm ... anyone?
[neil] not me
[djm62] n
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[monteiro] globonewss is an importnt news in brazil
[wse] small artillery was opened up on the plane before it hit
[wse] we presume to have stopped it or diverted it
[aeoe] goddamn
[wse] bearing in mind it only hit a corner
[afay] I heard that the smoke can be seen by our astronauts
in space.
[brogers] fuck... I would hate to have been one of those artillery
men
[monteiro] they syas about
[monteiro] sorry]
[wse] Refer back to when the plane was shot down over MaryLand
some time ago
[wse] That was a 747 or 757 I think
[celica] http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1537000/1537499.stm
[smjalso] Just an FYI, if you tick SMJ off, even if you
have paid for arpa, he will lock you out. He did ot
(it) to thecolor
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[wse] very interesting smjalso
[afay] I heard one journalist say that the two towers collapsed by
a bomb (in her opinion) because of the way that the they
fell upon themselves, instead of toppling. Agree? disagree?
[phm] uhm
[smjalso] makes it not worth paying for arpa.
[mcoms] really?
[wse] Pete!
[phm] hello
[wse] Bombs theory is bogyus
[djm62] smjalso- I'm sure if he apologises he'll be back on
[celica] i heard there were bombs too
[smjalso] Apparently he has several times.
[wse] Remember when in the past there were press blackouts in the
events of diasters?
[wse] in london, power was dropped across the city
[brogers] afay: disagree... internal structure probly weeke weakened by large amounts of
burning fuel
[djm62] we have a blackout
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[wse] Media blackout
[smjalso] Makes it not worth paying for arpa.
[djm62] no mention of the last plane
[wse] stops the roumours spreading
[aeoe] smjalso: err, is this related to new york city?
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[wse] Brian Loss is probably running around shitting his pants
[smjalso] related to where it came from.
[wse] (NB: he lives in PA)
[aeoe] ?
[smjalso] (started in this room)
[lpareal] Hi all!
[aeoe] who is brian loss
[aeoe] smjalso: oh
[wse] Cheifton of h14me
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[monteiro] logoff
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[lpareal] Hey guys... does this romm has something related to the accident
in ny today?
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[niknov] it shou[14~[13~ld
[smjalso] yup
[djm62] we haven't heard about it...
[dvnt] that wasnt an accident..
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[brogers] smjalso: smj did what he said he would do in his
Acceptable Use Policy"
[dvnt] if your referring the terrorism..
[lpareal] sorry... i mean... the terrorist attack!
[smjalso] Nice that he does it to one and not everyone.
[phm] smj was harsh
[smjalso] seems fare.
[afay] dvnt: LOL!
[brogers] lpareal: not an accident
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[brogers] lag
[brogers] sorry
[lpareal] What do ya think about what happened today?
[phm] surreal
[wse] A triumph for the new administratoipn
[brogers] guys, if you want to talk about color being booted then
please go to another room
[nociasso] today is world peace day and the date is 9/11
[aeoe] smjalso: if you have a log, why dont you post it
up and get a petition or something, let it out instead of
hearsay
[mcoms] not good...
[k0deman] lpareal: tradgidy!
[wse] Fantastic
[niknov] its a shame interesting what's going to be on streets
[smjalso] not hearsay, but I understand.
[afay] I have a feeling our way of life is about to
change. After something like this, anything could happen at any time.
[lpareal] When i have heard about it
[dvnt] surreal is a good word, who would have expected this when
you woke up?
[phm] use 'review' for com log
[afay] review 30
[wse] Should get a statement from Lord Robertson soon
[phm] ':review'
[dvnt] getting ready for work like usual..
[phm] sorry