From: grendel@jaflrn.UUCP (Don Becker) Date: 22 Nov 92 22:39:49 GMT Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy Subject: Bob Camp's lecture at Nassau College Well, Bob Camp was indeed lecturing at Nassau College this afternoon. I got there at 11:15 (fifteen minutes before the lecture was to start) and the place was already packed. Bob had brought some select cartoons of his youth (mostly old Bugs Bunny cartoons) and showed them before his speech. He didn't speak too much -- he must've really wanted to see his own work! The first cartoon (of five) was the uncut version of "Out West". The only difference between what was on the tape and what they show on Nickelodeon is that we actually see Abner and Eewah (who Camp said are his favorite characters) put nooses around each other, and Abner saying "Bring the kids next time!" at the end of "Lord Loves A Hanging". The most laughs came for "That's no horse! That's my wife!" and the Jeopardy! theme. After this, we were all treated to a commercial for "Log". There's nothing like 400 people singing soem ridiculous tune all together! The next full length cartoon was "Rubber Nipple Salesmen", identical to the Nick version. During this cartoon, Bob informed us that the music played when the rubber nipple truck was moving was the "Happy Happ Joy Joy" song. The most laughs came for the Mr. Horse segment, and "I have a dream, that someday, everyone, everywhere, will know the wonders of my nipples!" After this was a question and answer segment. Among the questions asked: Q: What do you think of the new Batman series? (Camp made a comment about lame action-adventure cartoons at the beginning) A: He knows one of the guys working on it, but all he's seen was a trailer. Q: [from me] Are you still planning on doing the "Hollywood, Yugoslavia" episode, despite the political unrest there? A: Yes, they are. In fact, Bob gave us the story behind it. When R&S debuted on TV, a boy from Yugoslavia named Anthony wrote a letter asking them to come to his country -- with their costumes. So, according to Bob, the plot is going to be R&S sitting at home with their Ukranian wives, and deciding to go to Yugoslavia to visit Anthony. Bob said they also bring their costumes -- ill-fitting burlap ones like the cheesy Mickey Mouse costumes. Q: Where did you get the names "Ren Hoek" and "Stimpy"? A: Ren Hoek was John K.'s landlord. Stimpy was a name they drew out of thin air. Q: Who wrote Log? A: John K. came up with the idea, but Bob wrote the commercials for the first season. Q: Where did you get the idea for "Dr. Stupid" Heckler [to questioner]: From people like you! Q: What is the Stupomitron Helmet supposed to do to Stimpy? A: He doesn't need it...He's stupid enough! Q: Is Frank Zappa going to make any more appearances? A: Not right away -- he's not well Q: Are R&S going to appear on the Simpsons? A: Definitely YES, because it's Bart's favorite show! Q: When is Yak Shaving Day? A: Octembruary 45! People asked him a LOT of questions about censorship and editing. Bob mentioned the sword-swallower sequence from "Sven Hoek", and said that by editing it because it was a gay joke, they made it a gay joke. He also mentioned that Powdered Toast Man hasn't been shown much lately because a lot of parents objected to PTM sticking the Pope on a mountain and burning the Bill Of Rights. He also mentioned some other new episodes, including the Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen, where Ren and Stimpy join the RCKY (they wear kilts and ride yaks) until the get the crap kicked out the them by the world's largest small primate -- a whole 8" tall! Another one is "Stimpy's First Fart", which had to be renamed "Son Of Stimpy" because of some really stupid regulation that says you can't use "fart" in a title, but you can say it on TV. The third cartoon was one I never saw before, entitled "Dog Show". This one introduces a brand new character, "George Liquor, American". Liquor has appeared in two previous cartoons: Robin Hoek (as The Sherrif of Dodge City) and The Boy Who Cried Rat (as the guy whose trash R&S were rummaging through). The plot is basically that Ren and Stimpy are entered in a dog show by Liquor. Liquor demonstrates how to groom a champion dog by massaging Ren's gums, bobbing his tail, and buffing the fur (and in Ren's case, everything else) off both of them. Mr. Horse was the prejudge, and those that didn't make the cut were fed to a bulldog. One poodle went into a nice long soliloquy about how his owner made him go through all this. Both Ren and Stimpy make the cut (after some fast-talking by Liquor) and go on. Stimpy gets judged by the announcer from Space Madness. Eventually, George Liquor wins the show and gets carried off, while Ren and Stimpy weep tears of joy. Another short Q&A session followed this, where Bob told us that John owns the rights to George Liquor, and George will most likely show up in future Spumco projects. John also has a big time agent, who is working on getting him some big deals. No info on who's doing Ren's voice, although Bob tried out for it, but thought better of it, saying he didn't want to steal John's thunder. Bob also told us about the ORIGINAL pilot, where Stimpy was pregnant with Ren's love child. As Bob said, "That one got rejected REAL fast!" The fourth cartoon was Ren's Toothache. Nothing new Finally, the last cartoon was shown, "Man's Best Friend", featuring George Liquor, American (those words appear on the screen when George first appears, in red, white, and blue). George trains them rewarding them with "Lawn Cigar" rubber treats. The first thing George does is empty the goldfish tank to make room for Ren And Stimpy. The goldfish dons a fedora (a la Muddy Mudskipper) and takes off in George's car. The first thing he trains them is not to get up on his couch, by telling them to get up there. Stimpy does (reluctantly) and gets rewarded with a lawn cigar. Ren refuses, and George gives him $40 and tells him to go see a movie. Then, he trains them to attack. Stimpy refuses, but Ren beats the shit out of George with an oar. One sequence that saldy will not make it to TV is straight out of Raging Bull: a black and white slow motion shot of Ren whacking George with the oar. George's head does a full 360. This sequence gets really violent, and when George comes to, they all get lawn cigars. I haven't laughed as hard in a long while. I am looking forward to seeing "Dog Show" and "Man's Best Friend" on TV so I can get them on tape! After the show, Bob was giving out autographs. Everyone asked him to sign with "Happy Happy Joy Joy", but he autographed mine "Only five more days till Yak Shaving Day!". A friend of mine got his autographed to say "Tim, you bloated sack of protoplasm!" All in all, it was a great lecture -- worth being 15 minutes late for psychology! ---- Sorry about this being posted late -- Camp was at the college last Tuesday, but my news feed was down. --Don +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | MARILLION-YES-ABWH-PINK FLOYD-PEARL JAM | "The more you scream, the less | | Don Becker: grendel@jaflrn.uucp | you hear; or that's how it used | | or: jaflrn!grendel@uunet.uu.net | to be. But I just can't tell | | Nothing above is to be taken as dogma. | the difference anymore these | | FISH-QUEENSRYCHE-SOUNDGARDEN-QUEEN-ASIA | days." --Fish, "Credo" | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+