[HN Gopher] The Evolution of Tunnel Boring Machines
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The Evolution of Tunnel Boring Machines
 
Author : jseliger
Score  : 58 points
Date   : 2023-10-10 20:15 UTC (2 hours ago)
 
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| jcims wrote:
| Sometimes when I'm stuck in construction traffic I wish someone
| would invent the Highway Widening Machine. A machine that in one
| fell swoop can grind, grade, prep, pour and paint a new lane into
| a road.
 
  | digging wrote:
  | A common but misguided desire.
 
  | soperj wrote:
  | Would be a lot cheaper and more permanent to just have other
  | modes of transportation.
 
    | kortilla wrote:
    | Unfortunately just severely less useful in the majority of
    | the US.
 
| ttyyzz wrote:
| Funnily enough, my father is at the 11th international symposium
| on "Ground Freezing" in London at this very moment. Most of the
| time you have to freeze the ground before you can drill.
| 
| He has been working in specialist civil engineering for many
| years and builds tunnels all over the world. He has told me many
| exciting and hard-to-believe stories about tunnel construction
| and tunnel boring machines.
| 
| E.g. during the work on the Eurotunnel. Here the British tunnel
| boring machine was diverted into the rock near half the length of
| the tunnel and left there. It was cheaper than somehow taking it
| out again.
| 
| Anyways, since my dad is always very stressed due to his job, I
| am happy to have gained a foothold in IT and not tunnel boring :D
 
  | kortilla wrote:
  | You could have added a boring pun to this boring comment.
 
| teruakohatu wrote:
| > During construction of the Hudson River Tunnel in 1889, 25% of
| the workers died from decompression sickness.
| 
| Less interesting but of far greater value to humanity has been
| the innovation in heath and safety regulations.
| 
| According to this article [1] one worker died per foot of the
| Hudson River Tunnel.
| 
| > In 1906, attitudes toward the sandhogs changed after a series
| of accidents beneath the East River. Blown-out tunnels put the
| dangers of the profession on display in a way few New Yorkers
| could ignore, and the Progressive-Era press worked to publicize
| them. Suddenly, sandhogs were big news, and people started to
| complain about their high death rates.
| 
| [1] https://daily.jstor.org/the-sandhogs-who-built-the-new-
| york-...
 
| bilsbie wrote:
| Why can't we copy how tree roots or worms tunnel?
 
  | atoav wrote:
  | Because we need a straight tunnel in a year and not a winded
  | one in a few decades?
 
  | teruakohatu wrote:
  | The article addresses this. The early tunnel boring machines
  | were inspired by worms that bore through wood.
 
    | DFHippie wrote:
    | Well, shipworms, which are actually clams.
 
  | psd1 wrote:
  | Because biology is hard to replicate with machines. But even if
  | we could, it wouldn't be useful, because we want to burrow
  | where we choose and leave behind a usable tunnel.
 
  | IshKebab wrote:
  | We probably can if you want to build 1 inch tunnels that go in
  | random directions...
 
| dieselgate wrote:
| Very cool article as someone who has had little to no exposure on
| this topic.
| 
| A very interesting youtube channel [1] I recently came across is
| Cutting Edge Engineering Australia - they do mostly heavy
| equipment repair/fab.
| 
| Some common tools used are air-arc gougers for clean and rapid
| removal of material along with mill/lathe machining. Had never
| really considered the conceptual transfer over to something like
| tunnel boring (air powered debris and rotational removal) but it
| seems similar.
| 
| [1] Repair & Upgrade DAMAGED Bucket for 30T Excavator | Gouging &
| Welding: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzi7eOr-3lA
 
  | jcims wrote:
  | Holy cow it's a small world. I just subbed to that channel last
  | week. Love seeing someone so practical and capable and the
  | bloopers at the end are a lot of fun.
 
| mmanfrin wrote:
| It's essentially a long ad for the company that makes the
| machines, but this video (and some of the others they've put out)
| are _fascinating_ and describe the whole process of tunnel making
| (with a very high production value):
| 
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AV2NcyX7pk
 
  | andbberger wrote:
  | Marti is unmatched. Herrenknecht also puts out some nice
  | material
 
  | greazy wrote:
  | Thanks for sharing this was fascinating. Some of the music is
  | very heist-movie.
 
| pugworthy wrote:
| That was an entertaining and educating read. I had not realized
| just how relatively recent rock tunneling advancements were.
| 
| Also the idea of adding grout between the rough bored tunnel and
| the tunnel lining - what a great way to create a full physical
| connection given the probable irregularities of the tunnel.
 
| aaron695 wrote:
| [dead]
 
| rolph wrote:
| this is likely to become critical tech in the coming years.
 
  | peterpost2 wrote:
  | How is this not already critical tech?
 
    | rolph wrote:
    | we dont have to abandon the surface quite yet, but soon
 
      | atoav wrote:
      | If you're talking about climate change, the number one
      | threat is going to be food.
      | 
      | Climate change is correlated with worse crops because it
      | brings more droughts and harsher weather extremes and this
      | will become a real problem.
 
        | rolph wrote:
        | yes crops will have to be included, as well as a, cohort
        | of supportive biotypes.
        | 
        | very much a noahs ark scenario, but we may best use a
        | number of avenues, such as exoplanetary colonies.
 
        | ben_w wrote:
        | There is nothing that we can do to this planet that would
        | render the environment a tenth as inhospitable as any
        | known other planet.
        | 
        | IIRC we've not even found one that has free oxygen in the
        | atmosphere yet. Even if we did, anything with that and
        | water would be extremely exiting by the standards of
        | exoplanets, even if it had an average temperature of 75 C
        | which would kill humans.
 
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