[HN Gopher] Building Nikola Tesla's Bladeless Turbine [video]
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Building Nikola Tesla's Bladeless Turbine [video]
 
Author : xbmcuser
Score  : 116 points
Date   : 2023-07-31 16:37 UTC (6 hours ago)
 
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| rpz wrote:
| Some great Tesla turbine builds on this channel. This is my
| favorite channel for anything Tesla turbine related
| https://www.youtube.com/@iEnergySupply
 
  | detourdog wrote:
  | definitely a lot of great builds but they desperately need an
  | editor and should drop the big promises.
 
| fudged71 wrote:
| Integza is one of the few channels where I will watch every
| single video and be both educated and entertained regardless of
| the subject matter.
 
  | Torkel wrote:
  | It's so fun to watch these builder-youtubers develop over time.
  | 
  | If they just keep on releasing videos and building stuff, even
  | if they are not so skilled in the beginning eventually they
  | become really skilled! It really shows that practice yields
  | mastery.
  | 
  | Tom Stanton is another on my list.
 
    | echelon wrote:
    | > It really shows that practice yields mastery.
    | 
    | 100% true, but I'd like to change the word "practice" to
    | "interested and intentional pursuit".
    | 
    | Practice is rigid and structured. You can be told to practice
    | piano for years, but you may never become great at it.
    | 
    | When you find something you love, you drill into it yourself.
    | Vertically, horizontally. It absorbs you. Expertise accrues
    | through playful exploration and repetition.
    | 
    | That's not to say you don't have to drill certain things.
    | Professional piano players, professional athletes,
    | professional gamers -- they all wind up doing "boring" drills
    | of the same moves. But the craft isn't all technical all the
    | time, and the endurance to withstand drills is greatly
    | enhanced when you're hooked on playing.
 
  | piyh wrote:
  | Alpha Phoenix is up there too.
 
    | mandeepj wrote:
    | Thanks! You both gave me a new goal to reach.
 
| carapace wrote:
| When I was a kid this thing was legendary, most people had never
| heard of it and most of those who had thought it was a hoax. An
| engine with one moving part...
| 
| The only place that had actual information on it was an obscure
| service that advertised in the classified ads section in the back
| of Popular Science, Rex Research:
| http://www.rexresearch.com/1index.htm
| 
| It's wild to see videos about it today.
| 
| (Also, check Rex Research for other cool obscure tech. Much of it
| is crackpot, of course, but some of it is not. E.g. the vaneless
| ion wind generator, a wind-to-electricity generator with _no_
| moving parts.
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaneless_ion_wind_generator There's
| more...)
 
| TheDudeMan wrote:
| So what's the actual reason no one uses this type of turbine?
| 
| The video frustratingly says, "People think it's inefficient.
| It's not." End of story.
 
  | detourdog wrote:
  | depends who you ask. If you watch these characters they come
  | and go. They often argue with each other. Charlie is the latest
  | and certainly the least ridiculous.
  | 
  | The best argument might be that current manufacturing
  | techniques have caught withe requirements.
  | 
  | I plan to build one.
 
    | [deleted]
 
  | loarabia wrote:
  | I think we do use this turbine but with thicker liquids and in
  | reverse as a pump -- maybe it was in oil or some of the
  | chemical industries?
 
  | jecel wrote:
  | Tesla invented this because he wasn't happy that cavitation was
  | reducing the life of bladed turbines.
 
    | contingencies wrote:
    | A plastics injection molding mechanical designer in China
    | told me rotational blades are the hands down most irritating
    | thing to try to injection mold because conventional tolerance
    | factors that are very well suited to the production of most
    | other products will often result in imbalance, noise,
    | vibration, wear and failure in rapidly rotating bodies.
 
  | nico wrote:
  | It seems like while the turbine works great, the rpm output is
  | too high, with too little torque, and you loose most of the
  | gains when gearing it down, which is also difficult to do
  | 
  | That's what I've read, haven't built one
 
    | greensh wrote:
    | Lesics (another Youtube channel) argues that current turbines
    | are already 90% efficient. For Tesla Turbines to reach the
    | same efficency it needs to spin in really high rpm (maybe 50
    | 000), which makes it impossible to built disks for it. Those
    | disks would have to be 2-3 meters in diameters for industrial
    | applications and couldn't withstand the forces.
 
      | tetha wrote:
      | This wouldn't surprise me.
      | 
      | Modern turbines are very, very optimized, because they are
      | used in systems like power plants. Here, every fraction of
      | a percent of efficiency is massive. Hence, modern turbines
      | are optimized as much as many, many smart people can do.
      | This in turn means, even if Tesla just designed something
      | pretty efficient many years back (which would be really
      | impressive), it just loses in modern, industrial
      | applications.
      | 
      | Like, people have been looking at better ways to generate
      | electricity from nuclear or fusion reactors. But current
      | steam and steam turbine systems have been optimized so hard
      | and far, it's extremely challenging to find anything better
      | than just heating water and jamming it through a turbine.
      | Because current steam turbine systems are just that good.
      | 
      | It reminds me of the recent thread about hypothetical
      | usages of the recently discovered and not yet confirmed
      | room temperature super conductor. So many people are just
      | arguing that a potential material that was discovered 2 or
      | 3 months ago would be worse than silicon based electronics
      | we've been optimizing for 40 - 50 years, or steel-based
      | long range transfer we've been optimizing for longer.
 
  | pg_bot wrote:
  | I think the limiting factor on this type of turbine is the
  | material you use to make the disks. As the disks get bigger the
  | rotational stresses increase. To be practical the stress
  | induced would need to be below the ultimate tensile strength of
  | the material. Since these turbines need to spin at extremely
  | high rpms and need to be fairly large to be efficient, there's
  | no practical material that they can be made of.
 
    | regularfry wrote:
    | Given that the point he makes is that they've got high torque
    | at low RPMs and that's what makes them interesting, I'm not
    | sure that's relevant here. Frustratingly it doesn't go into
    | any more details than that.
 
| Animats wrote:
| Watch about 1 minute starting at 03:00 and you'll see all the
| useful content.
 
  | londons_explore wrote:
  | Get sponsorblock, it does this for you.
 
| ctenb wrote:
| Narrator: "I know Charlie seems like your average Nikola Tesla
| fanboy, but he's not (...)". Not sure what part he is referring
| to that he is not, but we're definitely seeing some Nikola Tesla
| fanboyism there, looking at the live size Tesla poster and the
| man himself which looks like a Tesla replica :D Cool video.
 
| tgv wrote:
| Interesting. I do doubt the statement that dirt (he even
| mentioned rocks) won't hurt the system.
 
  | soligern wrote:
  | Anything that has any sort of deposit will turn that thing into
  | a monolithic cylinder in no time.
 
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