[HN Gopher] When Connie Converse, the 'female Bob Dylan,' lived ...
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When Connie Converse, the 'female Bob Dylan,' lived in NYC
 
Author : tintinnabula
Score  : 65 points
Date   : 2023-05-07 13:09 UTC (9 hours ago)
 
web link (www.nytimes.com)
w3m dump (www.nytimes.com)
 
| 8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote:
| Some parallels with the rediscovery of Nick Drake a few years
| back. Wonder how many more of these gems are buried in the river
| of history.
 
  | jjulius wrote:
  | >Some parallels with the rediscovery of Nick Drake a few years
  | back.
  | 
  | How long ago are we talking here? To my mind, he's enjoyed a
  | healthy dose of posthumous popularity for a few decades.
 
  | rodgerd wrote:
  | Phil Ochs isn't buried, but he's really not as well-known as he
  | ought to be; the story about Dylan "throwing him out of his
  | limo" for being too political for Bob's taste says a lot about
  | Dylan.
 
| lioeters wrote:
| This link is in the article, but it sure makes for a perfect
| soundtrack while reading.
| 
| https://connieconverse.bandcamp.com/album/how-sad-how-lovely
 
  | rcme wrote:
  | If you buy the album, who are you supporting, exactly?
 
    | pessimizer wrote:
    | I hope the above isn't considered a rude question, but
    | treated as a real question. Who owns these recordings, and
    | how did they get ownership? If I had to guess, I'd say the
    | copyright started with whoever had the belongings (and tapes)
    | she left behind, likely a family member, and they probably
    | went into partnership with whoever shopped the tapes (and
    | story) around to record companies.
    | 
    | One of my favorite CDs; I wish people still wrote music like
    | that.
 
| escapedmoose wrote:
| "How Sad How Lovely" is such a beautiful album. I hum its songs
| to myself regularly. So glad her work has been preserved at least
| to some extent.
 
| dr_monster wrote:
| Been listening to these songs for quite a while now - amazing
| songwriting. A mysterious, tragic tale, too.
| 
| On Spotify there is an album called "Connie's Piano Songs" that
| purport to be through-composed (as in, pen to paper notated
| music) art songs. I've unsuccessfully tried to find more info
| about them and there don't seem to be any scores are available.
| I'd be interested if anyone has any more information about them
| or has the scores. Part of me wonders if they are actually songs
| _about_ Connnie Converse and not composed by her...
 
  | cenazoic wrote:
  | Fishman discusses this in his recently released book (which is
  | highly recommended, although it left me a bit depressed.)
  | 
  | Basically, he got the music from her brother, and organized
  | some singers and recorded it. There are no known recordings of
  | Converse herself performing them.
  | 
  | tldr; Connie Converse wrote the music/lyrics, but "Connie's
  | Piano Songs" are performed by other artists.
 
    | dr_monster wrote:
    | Thanks, I see that there is more info in this article too. I
    | mistakenly thought this post was an older article that I had
    | already read about her.
 
| zabzonk wrote:
| another woman that seems almost forgotten:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Henske
 
  | pessimizer wrote:
  | Another lost (not missing, just unnoticed) artist whose
  | discovery happened about the same time as Converse is
  | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibylle_Baier
 
| wslh wrote:
| https://archive.is/3iUYP
 
| mellosouls wrote:
| A non paywall alternative:
| 
| https://www.theawl.com/2010/08/the-story-of-connie-converse/
 
  | readthenotes1 wrote:
  | This one is much better than the NYT article. Also, it embeds
  | some of her songs to listen to while reading.
 
  | brandall10 wrote:
  | It's good to have more insight, but the archive.is link at the
  | top comment is the non-paywall version of the main article.
 
    | zoklet-enjoyer wrote:
    | This article has more information, like how she got on TV,
    | while the first link says they don't know.
 
      | brandall10 wrote:
      | Understood ("more insight"), I mentioned due to the paywall
      | comment. It was meant to be purely informative, not
      | comparing content of the articles.
 
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