[HN Gopher] The extraordinary shelf life of the deep sea sandwiches
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The extraordinary shelf life of the deep sea sandwiches
 
Author : zdw
Score  : 25 points
Date   : 2022-12-12 03:11 UTC (19 hours ago)
 
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| montecarl wrote:
| Avoid paywall: https://archive.vn/9xs6M
 
| dr_dshiv wrote:
| Sounds like a lot more science is needed. I wish ocean science
| was funded at a greater level -- and I wish it were easier to do
| research (incredibly expensive and regulatory).
 
| andrewmutz wrote:
| If high pressure slows down the spoilage, can I use a pressure
| chamber to preserve food, rather than a refrigerator?
 
  | pazimzadeh wrote:
  | What happens if you combine both?
 
    | Nzen wrote:
    | PV = nRT [0]. The (P)ressure is directly correlated with the
    | (T)emperature. You would need to use a small (V)olume to
    | balance the equation.
    | 
    | [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_gas_law
 
      | s1artibartfast wrote:
      | poor application of the gas law. There is no reason to
      | treat the situation as adiabatic. Theoretical assumptions
      | are important!
 
  | droopyEyelids wrote:
  | Yes absolutely. It's really cool.
  | 
  | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascalization
 
  | FredPret wrote:
  | Good luck peeking in the fridge every 5 mins like some do!
  | 
  | Maybe a pressure hatch is the answer to snacking
 
  | traverseda wrote:
  | It's called high pressure processing or pascalization.
 
| unwind wrote:
| Very interesting, and daring of them to taste food having spent
| 10 months in the ocean! That must have been an epic "for
| science!" moment, for sure.
| 
| Semi-meta: as a non-native speaker, does the expression "a
| handful of apples" feel natural? Is that, like, 4-5 apples, or
| whatever you feel a handful corresponds to?
| 
| I mean, most people will struggle actually holding more than one
| or two apples in a single hand, but perhaps that part is so
| idiomatic that the literal meaning of the words don't matter?
| Would you say "a handful of aircraft carriers"?
 
  | jfengel wrote:
  | Yes, that's fine. English speakers regularly use "handful" to
  | mean "about five".
  | 
  | As a random example I googled "handful of buildings" and got
  | >700,000 hits, e.g. "Charnley-Persky House is one of a handful
  | of buildings that display the combined talents of Louis
  | Sullivan and Frank Lloyd Wright".
  | 
  | You can even have "a handful" of non-physical things: "a
  | handful of ideas" gets almost 5 million hits on Google, e.g.
  | "We started with a handful of ideas that sprung out of our
  | collective experiences on social media."
 
    | lotsofpulp wrote:
    | As an American English speaker, I have never come across
    | context where a handful means about five. Handful has meant a
    | relatively small amount, with the actual quantity always
    | depending on the context of the item being discussed.
 
    | jmkb wrote:
    | To me (native English a la USA) apples are in a sort of
    | uncanny valley between things that could in fact be measured
    | by the physical handful, like peanuts, and things that
    | couldn't -- buildings being way off the charts, obviously.
 
      | thaumasiotes wrote:
      | Context will make the difference. If you say "grab a
      | handful of apples", no one will believe you meant to say
      | it, because that doesn't make any sense.
      | 
      | " _There are_ a handful of apples " is a different usage,
      | which people will accept.
 
      | [deleted]
 
    | unwind wrote:
    | Cool, thanks!
 
    | zdw wrote:
    | Never really thought about this, but I wonder whether
    | "handful" also is roughly equivalent to "number you can count
    | on one hand" (ie, around 4 or 5 if counting with fingers).
 
  | eschneider wrote:
  | More like putting out a platter of "Free Food!" for grad
  | students.
 
  | glxxyz wrote:
  | A handful means either the amount you can hold in your hand
  | "add a handful of salt", or a small number so "Country X only
  | has a handful of aircraft carriers" is fine.
  | 
  | I think with apples it would be the second meaning but it's a
  | grey area. With something smaller like "a handful of cherries"
  | I'd go with the amount that can be held.
 
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