[HN Gopher] Roman Egypt was a strange province
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Roman Egypt was a strange province
 
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Score  : 122 points
Date   : 2022-12-02 16:46 UTC (6 hours ago)
 
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| Koshkin wrote:
| > _most of the country is desert_
| 
| Well, in the manner of speaking only. Back in the day, the
| "country" was where people had settlements, and that was the
| delta and the banks of the Nile...
 
  | agumonkey wrote:
  | There's a video about Florida in the early days of USA and it
  | was mostly a swamp. The last century made it into a state per
  | se but it's really recent.
 
    | justinator wrote:
    | Deswampifying Florida is one of the greatest environmental
    | tragedies ever committed. Up there with the building of the
    | Glen Canyon and Hoover Dam. Shortly below is attempting to
    | control the Mississippi River Delta.
 
      | giraffe_lady wrote:
      | All the hundreds of dams out west built to irrigate high
      | and cold interior deserts really. Each individually
      | unjustifiable environmental destruction, all together a
      | catastrophe. They'll outlast everything else we build and
      | probably even the memory of the name of this country
      | itself.
 
      | paganel wrote:
      | The Soviets thinking about reversing the flow direction of
      | some big Siberian rivers (from South to North into North to
      | South) might have topped them all, if the project had
      | actually been executed. [1]
      | 
      | Of course, the same Soviets copied the American
      | capitalists's hydro policy, starting with Stalin and
      | continuing with Khrushchev, with the same negative
      | environmental effects. The Volga Hydroelectric Station
      | project [2] was used as an accusation against Khrushchev by
      | some and said accusation was used for its dismissal,
      | supposedly for the project's negative effects, mainly the
      | huge swathes of very productive agricultural lands which
      | got submerged.
      | 
      | Modern-day Egypt has done the same thing with the Aswan
      | Dam.
      | 
      | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_river_reversal
      | 
      | [2]
      | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Hydroelectric_Station
 
      | debacle wrote:
      | The problem is the land owners who didn't see it as a
      | tragedy are still the ones pulling the strings. Florida is
      | on borrowed time.
 
    | hammock wrote:
    | What's the relevance of your comment to its parent?
 
      | agumonkey wrote:
      | How we perceive space today is not how it was long ago.
 
  | somat wrote:
  | yes, however, having a river does not make the area something
  | other than a desert.
 
  | mkehrt wrote:
  | If you read the rest of the paragraph, you'll see that he's
  | talking about aridness being important for preserving papyri.
 
  | hammock wrote:
  | Thanks for this necessary context. Roman Egypt did not share
  | the same borders of what we think of as modern Egypt as today.
  | 
  | AD 125:
  | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/Ro...
 
| ggm wrote:
| I wonder if the existence of a stable overclass of alexandrines
| distinct from the native population pre-prepared Egypt to be a
| Roman vassal state: it was already functioning as an analogous
| model, they just replaced the top set, but kept the governance
| model as-is.
| 
| Egypt was a breadbasket for Rome long before it was incorporated
| as were Tunisia and Sicily. I suspect "do not break the supply
| chain" was huge in not altering the governance
 
| selimthegrim wrote:
| I seem to hear conflicting reports on whether invest in Greek
| Egypt (up to Cleopatra) was practiced mainly by the Greeks or by
| the Egyptians to thumb their nose at the Greeks.
 
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