[HN Gopher] Apple Rankings
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Apple Rankings
 
Author : bookofjoe
Score  : 671 points
Date   : 2022-11-17 14:20 UTC (8 hours ago)
 
web link (applerankings.com)
w3m dump (applerankings.com)
 
| bearbin wrote:
| Sadly, in my experience, the apple variety alone doesn't actually
| have that much bearing on quality (although a red delicious will
| always be lacking in the second of it's nominative attributes!).
| 
| What I've found is a much better predictor of a good apple is
| freshness. An appple straight off the tree is going to be
| excellent, but a local apple in season will be just as good. Find
| out what the apple seasons are in your location, and just buy the
| fruit that's fresh.
| 
| I've never had much luck buying imported apples from New Zealand
| or anywhere in the southern hemisphere, and varieties suitable
| for long storage may look good but won't taste it once they come
| out of the storage bin. So I now only buy apples for about 7
| months of the year, when they're actually good. There are lots of
| other fruit for the rest of the year, and it's such a treat when
| they come back in season again.
 
| JoshGlazebrook wrote:
| I'm shocked there is something worse than red delicious.
 
| for1nner wrote:
| For those who need re-assurance:
| 
| > Brian Frange is a comedian and writer who has been yelling
| about apples for years. [...] Brian is not in the pocket of big
| apple and all reviews are inarguably accurate and not corrupted
| by corporate influence.
 
  | adamredwoods wrote:
  | According to those apple ratings, he has quite the sweet tooth!
 
| AdamJacobMuller wrote:
| Everyone who is taking this too seriously and disagreeing with
| the rankings is missing the fact that this is some absolutely
| hilarious comedy.
| 
| Look at the review for the arkansas black apple, it's hilarious.
| 
| > This teeth-shattering oddity, boasting a deep red hue that'll
| make a dark cherry look like a fluorescent glow stick, will
| destroy your helpless mouth with every unfortunate bite. A ten
| out of ten on the Mohs Hardness Scale, this apple would perform
| admirably as a drill tip in a diamond mine. While true the
| hardness marginally decreases if left in your refrigerator for a
| full year, those patient enough to plan lunch into the next
| decade will be sorely disappointed with a thick-skinned carbuncle
| that tastes and feels like an uncooked russet potato. Truly
| despicable.
 
  | gamerDude wrote:
  | Even just the subtitles. At the very bottom, the only apple to
  | land in "Apple Hell"
  | 
  | Newton Pippin Apples "Long Island's Sand Filled Condom"
 
    | AdamJacobMuller wrote:
    | I didn't pick that one because I didn't want to have a
    | comment on HN with "Long Island's Sand Filled Condom" :D
    | 
    | It's hilarious.
 
  | [deleted]
 
| dgudkov wrote:
| The problem with the popular apple breeds is they are too sweet.
| Actually, sweetness is what makes them popular. I couldn't find
| fresh and not too sweet apple breeds in grocery stores in Canada.
 
| ivanhoe wrote:
| De gustibus non est disputandum... also no Idared and Jonaprince
 
| wizofaus wrote:
| Are all those varieties reasonably common in the US? A good
| percentage I've never heard of, though as it happens Pink Lady is
| the one in the top category I see regularly in markets here
| (Aus), and indeed my preferred choice for eating fresh (which the
| rankings seem very biased toward - some apples are pretty
| ordinary fresh but great when cooked). Kanzi and Envy are
| moderately common too but I've never been blown away by them.
| I've also had multiple people tell me "Cox's orange pippins" (or
| just Cox apples) are supposedly the king of apple varieties but
| not listed here.
 
  | 323 wrote:
  | I'm in EU and from the top 10 I've only seen Pink Lady in
  | regular shops (meaning I didn't go out of my way to search for
  | apples).
 
| beefman wrote:
| These are all mass-market cultivars. Get serious!
 
| chefandy wrote:
| Anybody who'd rank the proprietary, designed-by a committee that
| prioritized inoffensive appeal over character, _sweet tango_ and
| _honeycrisp_ in the top slots doesn 't deserve an opinion on this
| topic. It's like ranking a bazillion craft beers and giving the
| #1 slot to Blue Moon and the #2 slot to Sam Adams. They're the
| Applebee's and Olive Garden of Apples.
| 
| Also, the descriptions show that the majority of what they've
| tasted were out of season, not ripe or overripe, and likely
| shipped a long distance. You might as well rank US pizza shops
| but only tasting them at home, delivered... even if they're
| across the country.
 
| 1024core wrote:
| I don't know what this guy is talking about. He lists Arkansas
| Black as a terrible apple; man has no taste! AB's one of the best
| apples I've ever had.
| 
| And he doesn't even mention the Gravenstein apple, which made
| Sebastopol, CA famous?!
 
| ihaveajob wrote:
| Oh man, I liked a Cameo apple so much the other year that I kept
| the seeds to grow something at least remotely similar. Right now
| the tree is standing a good 8ft tall, and I expect it to yield
| some fruit next fall. Only time will tell if it's only a 50/100
| apple, or a great one like I remember.
| 
| Actually, looking at the comments
| (https://applerankings.com/cameo-apple-review/), I'm not the only
| one who thinks they're a great pick.
 
  | 0xffff2 wrote:
  | FYI, apples don't grow true from seed. The apples you get (if
  | any) from your tree will likely be nothing at all like the
  | apple they came from.
 
    | samatman wrote:
    | All is not lost, however!
    | 
    | The apple tree in question can be grafted with a branch of
    | Cameo, or several.
 
| adamgordonbell wrote:
| Honeycrisp are so good and ruined other apples for me. Now I only
| eat Honeycrisp and its various variants like cosmic crisp,
| Pazazz, SweeTango and so on.
 
| 1letterunixname wrote:
| Miss apple orchards like this one with fresh cider.
| 
| https://www.facebook.com/NobleOrchards/
 
| PontifexMinimus wrote:
| The annoying thing about this website is I can't find anywhere
| that lists the apples by rank, in any of their 12 categories. A
| ranking website should, y'know, rank things.
 
  | NotAbhay wrote:
  | If you click on the "Pick an Apple" menu tab it shows the list
  | of apples by rank, https://applerankings.com/pick-an-apple/
 
  | jffry wrote:
  | Scroll down, it's hidden below the fullpage background image
  | for a single search box
 
  | fckgw wrote:
  | This is a comedy website that uses rankings as a method for
  | delivering jokes. Hope this helps.
 
  | [deleted]
 
  | grech wrote:
  | Clicking on the "Pick an Apple" drop down in the menu bar takes
  | you to the rankings page.
 
| flatiron wrote:
| I had to check: https://applerankings.com/red-delicious-apple-
| review/
| 
| i have no clue why anyone would buy a red delicious apple. Their
| review is pretty funny.
 
  | adlpz wrote:
  | It's easily one of my favorite apples. I love them!
  | 
  | The mealier, the better.
  | 
  | Maybe I'm just weird.
 
    | ashton314 wrote:
    | You are just weird. Red "Delicious" is an abomination that
    | never should have blemished this planet. ;-)
 
| [deleted]
 
| CarVac wrote:
| The best apple I ever had was a Fuji apple... in Japan.
| 
| It's never that crisp in the US.
| 
| I don't know why they rank Cosmic Crisp so low. I rank it neck
| and neck with SweeTango.
 
  | NKosmatos wrote:
  | Came here to say the same thing about Fuji apples. They're
  | great from all aspects, juicy, nice taste, crisp/crunchy and
  | you can keep them for many days without going bad. I don't know
  | about the author or other places, but here in Greece we get
  | them produced locally and they're always fresh and delicious.
  | 
  | (Obviously I'm a Fuji apple lover :-) )
 
  | alach11 wrote:
  | I have to agree that Cosmic Crisp was unfairly ranked here. I
  | did a blind tasting of ten apple varietals with 14 friends and
  | Cosmic Crisp was the winner.
 
  | ambrose2 wrote:
  | They have really high standards in general for fruit in Japan.
 
    | wizofaus wrote:
    | Perhaps, but the prices are far far higher than would be
    | justified by any increase in quality. And I'm not just
    | talking about $5000 Densuke watermelons. Even a mango can be
    | 3 or 4 times the price I'm used to paying in Aus.
 
  | trashface wrote:
  | Organic Fuji apples in US can be pretty good, I certainly
  | wouldn't categorize them as "Horse Food" as the site does. I
  | like them better than Honeycrisp (and similar) which are almost
  | sickeningly sweet to me.
  | 
  | I also like Gala which this site ranks as "mediocre". It seems
  | like the author just likes super sweet, crisp apples.
 
  | Blackthorn wrote:
  | Probably out of season.
  | 
  | We can get cosmic crisps here year round, but they're usually
  | out of season as a result. One of the good things about cosmic
  | crisp is they don't really go super bad out of season, just
  | almost-good.
 
| dirtyid wrote:
| Staggering varieties of Apples some of which are delightful. Wish
| there was some sort of clearly labelled Apple sample pack.
| 
| Also, not a single green or yellow apple over 80.
 
| wlesieutre wrote:
| They've ranked Granny Smith as "Not worth eating" so right off
| the bat I can tell you the rating system is junk.
| 
| It loses the most points on its "density." Can't say I've ever
| eaten a granny smith and thought "I enjoy this taste, but I sure
| wish I could change the density."
 
  | [deleted]
 
  | gtk40 wrote:
  | I love the sourness and the texture. Too many popular apples
  | are just "mealy" texture. I've tried some of the other tart or
  | sour apples and they are just not as good.
 
  | vehemenz wrote:
  | They have Fuji below Gala. I'm surprised you made it that far.
 
    | reducesuffering wrote:
    | I was waiting to see this comment. These two are very popular
    | in US markets but are world's apart in the opposite
    | direction. Gala are straight mush. TBF they do caveat: "You
    | MUST buy Gala's that are grown where it is currently
    | Autumn... for an off-season Gala may be nothing more than a
    | six-month old, previously frozen, grain silo in a fruit
    | jacket." Which is 75% of the time...
 
    | balls187 wrote:
    | Funny enough I vastly prefer Gala to Fuji.
    | 
    | And my girlfriend swears by Macintosh apples.
 
  | roflyear wrote:
  | I think this attempts to rank apples based on how people would
  | rank them on average. I think it's good for that. Not a lot of
  | people like Granny Smith apples. Maybe I would not say it is
  | not worth eating, but I wouldn't suggest it unless you wanted
  | something different?
 
  | abruzzi wrote:
  | Agreed. Taste is very personal, and to me Granny Smith are
  | still my all time favorite apple. Most other apples are too
  | sweet for me.
 
  | humanistbot wrote:
  | I sure do love me some Granny Smith apples, but probably
  | because I grew up with them.
  | 
  | Taste is subjective. Any ranking system for taste is just
  | popularity with extra steps.
 
    | dalbasal wrote:
    | Matters of taste _are_ subjective, but subjective does not
    | mean  "all in your mind." There is such a thing as good
    | music, good conversation, etc. There are no objective tests,
    | but that's not the same as non existent.
    | 
    | Good tastes exists. OP just has bad taste (in apples).
 
      | mike8192 wrote:
      | > OP just has bad taste (in apples).
      | 
      | For someone who understands subjectivity, this is an
      | awfully objective statement :)
 
  | parkingrift wrote:
  | Granny Smith is a trash tier Apple. The skin is inedible and it
  | is absurdly sour. It's only edible if you peel the skin, cut it
  | up, ...and bake it in something else. Alternatively peel the
  | skin, and dip it into something such as peanut butter. By
  | itself, it's trash tier.
 
    | zeroonetwothree wrote:
    | I like my apples sour. But then my favorite fruit is lemon so
    | I might be unusual.
 
    | [deleted]
 
    | pivo wrote:
    | I don't like them by themselves, but I love them with other
    | food. For example, with a nice nutty cheese and maybe some
    | fig jam. The sourness can be perfect with a sweet
    | counterpart.
 
  | joosters wrote:
  | It's just like any kind of snobbery. If you want to be a
  | connoisseur, it's practically obligatory to detest all the
  | popular options. Because _you_ (i.e. this website) are the
  | expert and the commoners must be tasteless and wrong!
 
    | Spivak wrote:
    | What do you mean, the most popular options are at the top.
    | Honeycrisp, Envy, and Pink Lady are "the good apples you can
    | find at major grocery stores."
 
| mikejarema wrote:
| "The _definitive_ list of good and bad apples. "
| 
| Definitive, eh? Qualifiers like this are amusing, as they're
| generally self-proclaimed.
| 
| However, having a domain like applerankings.com, as well as a
| comprehensive, in-depth and entertaining library of apple
| reviews, definitely helps make the case.
| 
| What other heuristics have you seen out there that help make a
| self-proclaimed "definitive source" become an indisputable one?
| 
| Edit: looks like the site came online last year with that same
| claim, so time is not in their corner.
 
  | [deleted]
 
| MarkusWandel wrote:
| Funny snarky descriptions, but asssuming you buy the ratings on
| this site, how do you list the apples by rating? I'm actually
| curious what he does like!
 
  | favorited wrote:
  | If you click the "pick an apple" button (instead of selecting
  | from the drop-down), you get the whole index:
  | https://applerankings.com/pick-an-apple/
 
| rsynnott wrote:
| I just can't trust any Apple Authority which claims that there
| exist apples worse than the dreaded Golden Delicious.
 
| midjji wrote:
| How many klicked thinking it was something related to apple
 
  | dylan604 wrote:
  | Everyone? It is about apple(s)
 
| tobylane wrote:
| Does Granny Smith redeem itself when baked? We have an apple tree
| we vaguely name as cooking apples, and it's nearly finished for
| the season. Stewed apple may be better than the top of this
| ranking. Are there many podcasts that talk about this? There was
| one that liked the cosmic crisp, but moved onto baseball and Icy
| Hot without trying other variants.
 
  | dkarl wrote:
  | When my wife makes apple pie, she alternates Granny Smith
  | slices with slices of a sweeter apple (I don't remember which.)
  | It works well for my taste.
 
| acchow wrote:
| I would like to try all the apples worse than Red Delicious. I
| find it a bit hard to imagine something worse.
 
| jihadjihad wrote:
| Amazing site, but I have to disagree on a couple of them! In my
| area, orchards have _excellent_ Jonathan and Winesap apples--I
| would never rank them that low! And I haven 't tried aging
| Arkansas Black apples yet, but I have heard it's worth doing if
| you have the storage.
| 
| Totally agree on Pink Lady, just a wonderful apple all around.
 
  | smcg wrote:
  | Johnagolds are one of my all time favorites, but relegated to
  | the site's dustbin.
 
  | jzawodn wrote:
  | Yeah, I grew up a few miles from a big orchard that had amazing
  | Jonathon apples every Fall... I still miss them. Best. Apples.
  | Ever.
 
| ab_goat wrote:
| If you like this, I recommend a much more comprehensive apple
| review site:
| 
| https://adamapples.blogspot.com/
 
| asciimov wrote:
| I am a fan of the Pink Lady. It is a real treat if you cut them
| into slices add a smear of Peanut Butter and a squeeze of
| Sriracha.
 
| ajm-codes wrote:
| Opal being snubbed is a clear sign this person lacks good
| judgement
 
| hazrmard wrote:
| "Horse food"?! To arms, my fellow Fuji Apple stans! This heresy
| is casus belli.
 
  | gnicholas wrote:
  | Yeah that's crazy. Not all fuji apples are good, but a good
  | fuji is IMO basically as good as a good honeycrisp, and much
  | cheaper.
 
  | aliqot wrote:
  | Pink Lady or gtfo my face
 
| dhruval wrote:
| Ambrosia Apples are top tier. Cant take this list seriously.
 
| Hakeemmidan wrote:
| I can't be the only that thought this would be Apple products'
| rankings
 
| teg4n_ wrote:
| Cosmic Crisp is not overhyped. I think it's noticeably better
| than Honey Crisp :\
 
| dsparkman wrote:
| Yeah, these rankings are bogus. Snapdragon is far superior to
| Honeycrisp.
 
| lowbloodsugar wrote:
| Honey Crisps are just too sweet for me, so this list doesn't work
| for me. Next version: personal recommendations. If you like X,
| then these apples are better on these axes!
 
| lappet wrote:
| This is good. We need one for mangoes as well.
 
  | bookofjoe wrote:
  | https://balconygardenweb.com/different-types-of-mangoes-best...
 
  | 1letterunixname wrote:
  | (Gender joke about travel here.)
  | 
  | Unripened ones contain urushiol just as raw cashew nuts, raw
  | pistachios, and poison oak do. I can't believe health and
  | wellness sites seriously suggest eating raw, unripe mangoes.
 
| 0xbadcafebee wrote:
| There are 7,500 cultivars of apples. This list doesn't cover most
| of the varieties in my tiny town in upstate NY. We had a good
| year for Macoun for example. Many apples get a bad rep just
| because they don't ship well, which is bullshit.
 
| languagehacker wrote:
| I'm about to hulk out and fight over granny Smith
 
| gnicholas wrote:
| > _the most overhyped apple of all time_
| 
| Good to see they've got Cosmic Crisp properly described.
 
| ionini wrote:
| Do yourself a favor and read the Newtown Pippin Apples' review.
 
| bitxbitxbitcoin wrote:
| Apparently Opal Apples taste like an unwiped anus... Never seen
| one to have tried myself - can anyone confirm?
 
| sdfhbdf wrote:
| This is very US-Centric.
| 
| Poland is the 3rd most apple producing country in the world
| (behind US and China) [1]. It has probably the highest apple per
| capita count and I cannot even find basic varieties that Poland
| offers in this search engine - Ligol, Antonowka (Antonovka)
| [2][3].
| 
| [1]: https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-apple-producing-
| coun...
| 
| [2]: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ligol
| 
| [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonovka
 
  | heffer wrote:
  | US is the default on the internet. So unless explicitly
  | mentioned I tend to assume content is geared to a US audience.
  | 
  | But I did not know Poland was big in apples. Interesting. I
  | noticed the strong regional variances in Apple availability
  | ever since moving to Canada. I have had a very hard time
  | finding an apple that works well for baking, as Boskoop Apples
  | aren't a thing here.
 
    | sph wrote:
    | I think you meant " is the default on the
    | internet. So unless explicitly mentioned I tend to assume
    | content is geared to a US audience." Because you are American
    | and you tend to visit US-centric sites. No shit.
    | 
    | I am pretty sure 90% of sites visited by Chinese citizens to
    | be hosted in, and tailored towards China.
    | 
    | Also it's not just the Internet being US centric. It's
    | American people being US centric in general, and thus on the
    | Internet make it seem like only US exists. It's more cultural
    | than you think it is.
 
      | ImprobableTruth wrote:
      | The US has a larger population than the entirety of western
      | Europe and it's easily the largest western country. I'm not
      | from the US and I'd still consider it the default by sheer
      | size.
 
        | sph wrote:
        | There is more to the world and the Internet than US and
        | western Europe.
        | 
        | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number
        | _of...
 
      | aardvarkr wrote:
      | Wow that got really xenophobic really quick. No need to be
      | so hostile.
 
        | sph wrote:
        | Where is the xenophobia? Come on, not every single minor
        | comment you don't agree with is xenophobia.
        | 
        | You might disagree and think I'm wrong. Fine. But there's
        | no need to cry wolf because I said US culture is quite
        | insular. Geez.
 
      | heffer wrote:
      | I agree with your assessment. I am not US American though.
      | I live in America (Canada specifically) but I was born and
      | raised in Europe. I'm afraid the cynicism in my original
      | comment requires this context to be received.
      | 
      | In my opinion it seems to reflect an expectation in culture
      | in general. Most movies filmed in Canada do not actually
      | depict Canada. I lived in Toronto for a while where there
      | are almost as many NYPD cruisers as there are TPS cruisers
      | and as many Yellow Cabs as there are Beck Taxis.
      | International YouTubers translating things into Imperial
      | Units and US Dollars in videos is another often seen
      | accommodation to this.
 
        | airstrike wrote:
        | I think my simplest heuristic for agreeing with your
        | point is how much content there is in the English
        | Wikipedia vs. other languages. I haven't run the numbers,
        | but I'm sure it's also much more US centric (take a look
        | at the # of articles on the US government (current and
        | historical) vs., say, the Brazilian government...)
        | 
        | America just tends to be particularly prolific in
        | producing online content. No, I'm not claiming this as a
        | statistical fact, but I am claiming that's the impression
        | day in an day out so might as well assume as much...
        | 
        | (Dis)claimer: I'm not American
 
    | ausudhz wrote:
    | China and India have more internet users than the US.
    | 
    | Unless you specify, I might assume you're Asian.
    | 
    | (most probably they'd speak English too. I'm gonna say
    | because I think you'd be concerned)
 
      | heffer wrote:
      | Exactly my point.
 
      | acuozzo wrote:
      | ARPANET was developed by neither China nor India.
 
        | MisterSandman wrote:
        | What does that have to do with anything?
 
        | acuozzo wrote:
        | I was defending the right of the US to be "the default on
        | the internet" as stated here:
        | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33640903
 
        | gorjusborg wrote:
        | Neat.
        | 
        | The country of origin doesn't determine the quantity of
        | people using it.
 
        | acuozzo wrote:
        | I was defending the right of the US to be "the default on
        | the internet" as stated here:
        | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33640903
        | 
        | "First!" usually trumps quantity.
 
  | tomtheelder wrote:
  | They don't have most of the varieties we grew in our apple
  | orchard growing up in the NE US. It's a very limited selection.
 
  | [deleted]
 
| [deleted]
 
| volandovengo wrote:
| God bless the internet!
 
| gokhan wrote:
| I really like Fuji, but it's very hard to come by in UK for an
| unknown reason.
 
| JoshuaEddy wrote:
| If you're in New England, you can find the orchards that grow
| your desired apple at https://newenglandapples.org/apples/
 
| brianbreslin wrote:
| I am just glad this has nothing to do with Apple inc. I clicked
| thinking it would be some sort of app store thing.
| 
| Long live honeycrisp!
 
| kspacewalk2 wrote:
| Yawn, more of this silly apple snobbery. Yes, honey crisp is a
| good apple, but red delicious is also fine. The difference in
| taste between table/dessert apples is mostly personal preference.
| Get over yourselves, you are not better than the many people who
| prefer red delicious, and your palette is not more refined. I've
| met apple farmers who rather like red delicious, surely it's not
| because the poor wretches just don't have access to the other
| kinds, or know nothing about apples.
 
  | Spivak wrote:
  | > but red delicious is also fine
  | 
  | I was prepared to agree with you on pretty much any apple
  | except red delicious. They are absolutely disgusting and leave
  | no room for preference or taste. They're flavorless and mealy.
  | I wouldn't give one to my worst enemy.
 
    | 867-5309 wrote:
    | >more of this silly apple snobbery
 
      | widerporst wrote:
      | Eh, different people like different tastes, sure. I
      | wouldn't judge someone for liking the taste of a Red
      | Delicious. But there are some practically universally
      | disdained qualities, like mealiness. And Red Delicious is
      | definitely one of the worst offenders in that regards,
      | making it an (almost) objectively bad cultivar.
 
      | Spivak wrote:
      | Fine, sure. How bad does something have to taste for it to
      | stop being snobbery? Is there any time you can criticize
      | any food? Taste is subjective at the margins but Red
      | Delicious are famously reviled, and for good reason.
      | Whatever measure you pick for "aspects of foods that humans
      | like" they will fail.
      | 
      | You're allowed to be that one person that them, I like
      | things that nobody else likes too but I'm not stupid enough
      | to serve them to others.
 
        | 867-5309 wrote:
        | >Is there any time you can criticize any food?
        | 
        | perhaps not during a global food crisis, from a first-
        | world (obese) nation, which is seeing some fruits and
        | vegetables tripling in price
 
        | Spivak wrote:
        | This is the "you should finish your plate, there are
        | children starving in __" argument just stated
        | differently. Red delicious apples suck and if we dropped
        | into a depression where that was my only option that
        | isn't going to suddenly make them taste good and I'll
        | complain the whole time eating them.
 
        | kspacewalk2 wrote:
        | >Red Delicious are famously reviled, and for good reason
        | 
        | Famously reviled by whom? Could this be selection bias at
        | play? I personally have never met a real-world person who
        | disliked them as singularly as Internet hipsters do.
        | Opinions range from "my fav" to "not my fav".
        | 
        | >You're allowed to be that one person that them
        | 
        | Ah, I've got my work cut out for me*, visiting every
        | single grocery store and buying up their most abundant
        | supply of apples. Surely they cannot be ordering them due
        | to popularity.
        | 
        | * (Red delicious is not even my favourite, just a regular
        | apple).
 
| FinnKuhn wrote:
| Disappointed to see my favourite Apple
| (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_de_Boskoop) missing...
 
  | dddw wrote:
  | Great apple for pie! but seldom eat it out of my hand.
 
  | dddw wrote:
  | Also Elstar is missing, that would be my everyday goto apple
  | 
  | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elstar
 
    | radicaldreamer wrote:
    | One reason many European varieties may be missing is because
    | the apple market is pretty regionalized (95% of apples sold
    | in the US are grown in the US), unlike the bananas market,
    | which is hyper-globalized.
 
  | black_puppydog wrote:
  | Yes, came here to complain about exactly that one! Outrage! :D
  | 
  | Also James Grieve, and Cox's Orange are great.
  | 
  | Personally I stopped touching any supermarket apples, they're
  | all bland. I have a market in front of my house and my parents
  | have trees in the garden, and there's nothing better.
  | 
  | Really speaks to what we're losing as a result of
  | industrialized agriculture. Not saying it's not worth it in
  | order to feed billions, that point can be made, but still...
 
| yeahdef wrote:
| reminds me a little bit of snackdata.com
 
| baxtr wrote:
| Too bad they don't have Topaz. It would obviously rank at the
| top.
 
| ghostwriter wrote:
| Braeburn has a lower rank than Pink Lady? This ranking system is
| broken.
 
  | ebspelman wrote:
  | politely but firmly (with all my soul) disagree.
 
    | ghostwriter wrote:
    | It's the level of sweetness and crispness I'm troubled with
    | most of the time. Braeburns are crispier and are better
    | balanced at sweetness (neiter sour nor too sweet) IMO.
 
| jackallis wrote:
| boy, this is painful to read regarding red delicious.
| 
| "Nowadays, you can find this thick-skinned, flavorless, mealy
| imposter unwashed in a dirty wicker basket on the floor of a
| convenience store. What a sad state of affairs. It's time to hang
| them up old man, your time has passed."
 
  | ddoolin wrote:
  | I cried laughing so hard. Other descriptions can't help but
  | comment on it as well, such as "belligerently disgusting" in
  | the Honeycrisp description.
 
| anthonybsd wrote:
| Missing my favorite apple, Ginger Gold :(
 
| Angostura wrote:
| No Cox?
 
  | azepoi wrote:
  | Came for that. The list is severely lacking.
 
| dekhn wrote:
| To me the source of the apple matters a lot more than the breed
| itself. Put another way: there is a high variance in the quality
| of apples independent of the breed.
| 
| The absolute best apples I've ever had were pick-ur-own at a
| well-regarded apple orchard in Connecticut. I believe they are
| McIntosh although it could also be macoun. Every apple is crisp
| (not mealy), sweet and tart, with a thin skin and lots of flesh.
| 
| The big disappointment for me was moving to california, in an
| area without pick-your-own. How do I put it? The vast majority of
| apples in supermarkets here are abysmal. The granny smiths were
| often mealy and not tart at all! It wasn't until I went to a
| boutique grocery (Monterey Market in Berkeley) that I finally
| tasted apples in the same category as the ones I grew up with.
| 
| Reading the descriptions on this site, I don't really recognize
| their descriptions. Mcintosh has a thick skin? Ummmm.
 
  | nckslvrmn wrote:
  | +1000, Macouns from Rogers Orchards in Southington CT are the
  | BEST apples on the planet
 
    | theobeers wrote:
    | I never thought I would see mention of Rogers Orchards on HN.
    | Some of my family members live within biking distance of
    | there, and I love stopping by for a bag of apples or a pie.
 
  | wrycoder wrote:
  | Apples in season at the orchard are not comparable to apples at
  | the local big chain market. The latter are picked green and
  | ripened with ethylene gas when needed.
  | 
  | The varieties of apples best eaten fresh at the orchard differ
  | from the best orchard varieties to save at home, and those are
  | in turn different from the varieties used in general commerce,
  | which are chosen for survival, not taste.
  | 
  | And, pie apples are not eating apples, nor are they cider
  | apples.
  | 
  | The rating listing is laughable.
 
  | marze wrote:
  | This is so true. Thinning, tree health, soil health, all make a
  | huge difference.
 
  | guyzero wrote:
  | Hit Berkeley Bowl or farmers markets which will have much
  | fresher apples.
 
    | CoffeeOnWrite wrote:
    | Monterey Market is just as good or better than Berkeley Bowl
    | for apples.
    | 
    | (Incidentally Monterey Market has quite a better mushroom
    | aisle than Berkeley Bowl..)
 
    | dekhn wrote:
    | I shop at Monterey Market more since it is closer to my
    | house. But yes, BB also has quality produce.
 
  | erisinger wrote:
  | This is the truth. A Fuji apple _in Japan_ is life-changing. A
  | Fuji apple in Minnesota is flavorless and either hard as a rock
  | or mushy and granular. It's all about the source.
 
  | [deleted]
 
  | theonething wrote:
  | > he vast majority of apples in supermarkets here are abysmal.
  | 
  | And here I thought I just didn't like apples (California
  | resident). Will need to expand my geographic apple boundaries.
 
| ckemere wrote:
| Awesome link! Though I think the reviewer has a bias against
| crunch and skin flavor. (I don't understand how the Smitten ranks
| so low.)
 
| liminal wrote:
| Opal Apple Review - "A Tasty Unwiped Anus"
| https://applerankings.com/opal-apple-review/
 
| drumttocs8 wrote:
| Man, this guy had a lot of cheeky fun writing the titles and
| descriptions!
 
| lifeisstillgood wrote:
| It was my understanding from lockdown that the UK had millions of
| apples frozen, and would essentially just cycle through - in
| other words every apple came from farm to freezer to shop.
| 
| I may have misunderstood
 
| Johbii wrote:
| What's wrong with granny smith?????
 
| cmiller1 wrote:
| Missing my favorite, Northern Spy
 
| pr0zac wrote:
| Finally a fully objective ranking of apples that is completely
| correct and anyone that disagrees is provably wrong, a fact in no
| way based on my personal feelings agreeing with the rankings
| within.
 
  | [deleted]
 
| soapboxrocket wrote:
| He's got Granny Smith in the shit category, and this just reminds
| me of a funny story about dogs!
| 
| We had two corgis and my wife made all their meals by hand. Part
| of their diet was apples, but we found one of the corgis would
| almost always eat around the apple (usually just a cheap red
| apple) pieces and leave them for the other dog. Then one time
| Granny Smith apples were cheaper at the grocery store so that is
| what we purchased and provided. He ate them up!
| 
| Turns out the dog just didn't like the sweeter apples and wanted
| the tart tang of a good Granny Smith.
 
  | KyleBerezin wrote:
  | My dog seems to prefer apples based purely on their crispiness.
 
  | horsawlarway wrote:
  | Honestly - I think this list prioritizes basically just
  | "sweetness" and "crispness" (despite his claimed categories)
  | which is fine - those are generally appealing things for
  | eating. That said - many of the apples in the "shit" category
  | are fucking delicious.
  | 
  | There are days when I want a sweet, crisp apple, and there are
  | days I have a _serious_ hankering for a good ol ' granny smith.
  | 
  | Even the classic Red Delicious - which gets a really tarnished
  | name in current pop culture is actually a damn good apple...
  | soft, slightly chewy, sweet - but not too sweet, a little hint
  | of bitter in the skin - it's just a different experience than
  | the super sweet, juicy apples that start to just taste like
  | apple juice.
  | 
  | Then again - I really like apples, and I'm vaguely suspicious
  | that the site maker just likes sugar water.
 
    | jacobr1 wrote:
    | > Even the classic Red Delicious
    | 
    | You are right about the flavor profile - but Red Delicious
    | gets its bad rap from being mealy.
    | 
    | Now that might be due to historical transport and storage
    | practices during the era when Red Delicious reigned supreme,
    | in which case it is indeed a bad rap. But for me crispness is
    | king and I remember eating mealy red delicious apples at
    | school lunch and hating them. I had no problems with the
    | apples my mother bought which were all sorts of non-Red-
    | Delicious varities.
 
      | 2muchcoffeeman wrote:
      | I used to like red delicious as a kid and my perception is
      | that they got worse over time. I still like the other
      | apples I ate as a kid. So I don't know if this is all in my
      | mind or not.
 
        | telchior wrote:
        | You're probably right, not sure how old you are but
        | growers kept selectively breeding solely for appearance
        | up to (I think) the 2010s.
 
    | ishjoh wrote:
    | I love Golden Delicious apples. To me they are the standard
    | of what a green apple should taste like. Crisp and tart,
    | truly an amazing apple. Rating on this site was a 33. I
    | suspect you're right that sweet was the highest priority.
    | 
    | I also really like HoneyCrisp but I would rate it in the 70s,
    | not the 90s.
 
      | droopyEyelids wrote:
      | A golden delicious is neither crisp (mealy) nor tart
      | (bland, watery)- are you thinking of Granny Smith?
 
        | nl wrote:
        | > I love Golden Delicious apples. To me they are the
        | standard of what a green apple should taste like.
        | 
        | Nor are Golden Delicious' green, so I guess they do mean
        | Granny Smith
 
    | nl wrote:
    | I love apples - even blogged about them once.
    | 
    | I agree with the assessment of Red Delicious - it's just
    | garbage. Being fed them as a kid put me off apples for years.
    | I don't mind the taste of them when cooked or something, but
    | the floury nature of them when eaten fresh is just horrible.
    | 
    | I'd be interested in what you think of Jazz apples? To me
    | they are somewhat similar to Red Delicious in taste but the
    | crispness (is there a more crisp apple? I don't think so)
    | makes them a much better experience.
 
    | throwaway675309 wrote:
    | Even assuming the flavor of red delicious was at all
    | palatable in any sense of the word, it's impossible to get
    | past the fact that they have the tepid texture of water
    | soaked pile of corrugated cardboard. I think you may be an
    | outlier.
 
      | shirleyquirk wrote:
      | They are, I was shocked to discover, delicious and crisp,
      | but you have 30 seconds to eat them after picking before
      | they turn into the horror you describe so eloquently.
 
        | NBJack wrote:
        | This is most certainly the real culprit. There are
        | undoubtedly markets where the Red Delicious lives up to
        | its name. The rest of us end up with whatever freshness
        | roulette is played by the local supplier; while I too
        | have occasionally eaten a 'good' one, the number of times
        | I end up with an abomination in my taste buds far
        | outweighs it.
 
    | skyyler wrote:
    | You might find this breakdown of popular american supermarket
    | apples (in the context of pie):
    | 
    | https://www.seriouseats.com/the-food-lab-what-are-the-
    | best-a...
 
      | appleflaxen wrote:
      | That list is incomplete without honey crisp being listed
 
        | johnbcoughlin wrote:
        | Without having tried it... honeycrisp would be very
        | likely to make a terrible apple pie due to too much water
        | and sweetness.
 
        | ceejayoz wrote:
        | A waste of money, too. They're 3-4x as expensive as the
        | other apples here.
 
  | jonahx wrote:
  | Came here to say that this invalidates the entire list!
  | 
  | Great to see this as the top comment!
 
    | Karawebnetwork wrote:
    | Red Delicious 25
    | 
    | Granny Smith 53
    | 
    | McIntosh 45
    | 
    | Cortland 24
    | 
    | Either I have never had a good apple or there is something
    | off with this list and the reviews. Could it be they are
    | using imported or out of season apples?
    | 
    | This list is pretty much the apples I have access to locally
    | and they are all perceivably better than some of the
    | international variety that are ranked higher on that website.
    | 
    | The comment section for Cortland is savage and honestly I
    | agree with a lot of it.
 
      | LilBytes wrote:
      | I suspect the author of the website has no time for tart
      | apples, seems there's a bias for sweetness.
 
      | Derawk wrote:
      | Red Delicious was described as "mealy", which sounds like
      | an out of season apple. The science behind long term
      | storage of apples made it really common to have edible
      | apples all year round but when critiquing you've got to
      | take freshness into account.
      | 
      | This site has a comedy bend but with all the interest I'd
      | love to see it embrace a rotten tomatoes kind of style (the
      | critics vs. the masses).
 
  | swyx wrote:
  | you can listen to him rant about the Granny Smith at the end of
  | this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zohlRKE49wo
  | pretty funny
  | 
  | "Granny Smith apple"
  | 
  | "Oh boy... Alright you just made a mistake"
 
  | matwood wrote:
  | Dogs are as unique as people :)
  | 
  | All 3 of my dogs love love love bananas. To the point where
  | they can be dead asleep and they wake up from the sound of
  | peeling the banana. My guess is they all would have preferred
  | the sweeter apples over the tart ones.
 
    | jamiek88 wrote:
    | I had a dog who loved watermelon. She was a (rescue) pug too
    | so you can imagine the mess she made of that.
    | 
    | Even on her deathbed, literal hours before crossing the
    | bridge, she still managed a little.
    | 
    | (Wow, I'm 45, it's been nearly 5 years and I suddenly started
    | crying after writing that. Goddamn I miss that dog. RIP
    | Lucy.)
    | 
    | (I defensively stated rescue as I'm often assailed with 'pugs
    | should not exist' replies. I tend to agree. But they do. So
    | let's give them the best lives possible and pressure breeders
    | not guardians. Guardian instead of owner. I don't want to own
    | a sentient being. Semantics maybe but language changes
    | attitudes and you all let that 02022 is the year guy do his
    | schtick!)
 
      | matwood wrote:
      | No explanation needed. We have 3 frenchies - also rescues.
      | People get them, realize their vets bills are insane, and
      | then dump them off. They are also a big breed in puppy
      | mills that get shut down. We have spent an inordinate
      | amount of money on frenchies over the years (we've had 5 -
      | not at the same time, but 2 died prematurely from health
      | issues), but these dogs didn't chose be here, and deserve a
      | good life.
 
        | LilBytes wrote:
        | You're both doing incredible work. It's heart breaking
        | losing a dog, it's raw for me now currently I'm still in
        | the crying-almost-daily stage.
        | 
        | Not too dissimilar to me, though I don't often go breed
        | specific but age. I've foster failed a few dogs in the
        | last 6-7 years. I lost my recent foster fail Buster on
        | the 2nd of November and I only got him back from the
        | crematorium yesterday.
        | 
        | It's been a rough few weeks, this home has only ever been
        | a home with Buster in it and it's been dreadfully empty
        | with his passing. I cry every day I see something that
        | reminds me of him.
        | 
        | Baby gates that stop him going up and down stairs because
        | of his arthritis. His dog beds in each room which he
        | would follow us when my partner and I worked from home.
        | Food bowls. His blankets to keep him old bones warm.
        | Coming home or getting out of bed and him not being there
        | to howl at me. It's truly dreadful.
        | 
        | Buster was 14.5 years old when he passed and was 12 yo
        | when I adopted him. I didn't believe his age when I
        | adopted him. He was a Husky X Boxer so I could only
        | imagine what he was like as a puppy considering his
        | appetite for movement at 12 yo when he was effectively
        | 100+ in human years.
        | 
        | Some pictures of Buster:
        | https://imgur.com/gallery/WtLy4ZN/comment/2279131045
        | 
        | I want to wait a while before fostering or adopting again
        | but... I'm getting warn down by all the dogs that are
        | needing a home from the groups I volunteer and donate to.
        | I'm doom scrolling dogs in need daily.
 
        | jamiek88 wrote:
        | Oh lilbytes,
        | 
        | My heart goes out to you.
        | 
        | I know exactly how you feel my only advice is to do your
        | best to let those feelings come. Wallow a little. Feel
        | and experience your grief.
        | 
        | Locking it away doesn't work and the tears will become
        | smiles in time.
        | 
        | Wishing you peace.
 
| e40 wrote:
| McIntosh are my favorite and in the shit category. So, you peel
| it, no big deal.
| 
| Honestly, I don't think I can trust anything else on the site
| because of this review, unless it's completely meant to be some
| sort of joke...
 
| Xcelerate wrote:
| Totally disagree with SugarBee being so low. My understanding is
| that it was engineered to be an improved version of Honeycrisp.
| My wife and I did a head-to-head comparison of SugarBee and
| Honeycrisp, and the SugarBee won no contest. We got our apples
| from Sigona's; maybe the list creator got a bad batch somewhere?
 
  | harveywi wrote:
  | So you are essentially saying it was not an apples to apples
  | comparison?
 
| insane_dreamer wrote:
| Now _this_ is the kind of important tech /nerd info that I come
| to HN for! 10/10
| 
| Notes:
| 
| I'm only familiar with several of the varieties on this page, but
| I definitely agree with the rankings. We used to buy Gala, Fuji
| or Juici, since there were the cheapest at the store and we
| didn't know better, but once we tried Honeycrisp we never went
| back. (Cosmic Crisp also ok but not as good. I'd also rank Envy a
| bit lower.)
| 
| Also, best cider I've had is from Honeycrisp apples.
| 
| Red/Golden Delicious are tasteless garbage. Granny Smith is ok
| for particular dishes so I'd probably rank it a bit higher.
 
  | wilsonnb3 wrote:
  | I am actually now interested in trying one of these "Arkansas
  | Black", "Cortland", or "Newtown Pippin" apples just to see if
  | an apple can really be worse than a Red Delicious.
  | 
  | I hadn't thought such a thing was possible till now.
 
    | jefftk wrote:
    | Cortlands get mushy and flavorless quickly, even if
    | refrigerated, and so are bad supermarket apples. But I'd
    | rather have one straight off the tree than any of their top
    | rated apples.
 
    | infotropy wrote:
    | I'll come to the defense of Arkansas Blacks. They are
    | definitely better than Red Delicious. They're just really
    | hard and quite tart with a faint green flesh. Red Delicious
    | are mealy and tasteless.
    | 
    | I love the Arkansas Blacks, but they wouldn't be everyone's
    | cup of tea.
 
      | 1024core wrote:
      | I love Arkansas Blacks! They have a hint of cardamom
      | aftertaste, which makes them unique!
 
  | spike021 wrote:
  | I think Golden Delicious can be delicious but they have to be
  | just right. Red are the absolute worst, though.
 
    | PaulHoule wrote:
    | Agree. I think they underrate Cartland and Jonagold but maybe
    | it's because I am a New Yorker. I think Honeycrips is OK but
    | not stellar.
 
  | [deleted]
 
  | hahamrfunnyguy wrote:
  | As other commenters have said, apples can be pretty variable in
  | flavor. Many are not keepers or go flavorless fast. The last
  | couple of bags of Gala's I've bought have been very good. The
  | flavor doesn't keep for long and the become pretty bland.
  | 
  | I don't care for Honeycrisp at all, fresh or not. Too high of a
  | sugar to acid balance. I prefer my apples with a bit of a tang.
  | Cosmic crisp can be great. For the more common apples, I really
  | like Empire and Pink Lady (Cripp's Pink) as well.
  | 
  | I don't agree with any of this guy's ratings at all, he seems
  | to only like the really sweet apples.
 
  | swalsh wrote:
  | If you can find a Kanzi, you need to try them. By far the best
  | Apple available.
 
  | molsongolden wrote:
  | I've actually had very good red/golden delicious when picking
  | them myself at a local orchard. Not sure if they degrade so
  | quickly that freshness was the difference or if the local farm
  | was growing a slightly different varietal less designed for
  | transport and storage.
 
| gammarator wrote:
| This appears to be one person's subjective nonsense--I personally
| think SweetTango apples taste cloying artificial, for instance.
| 
| I like the website
| https://www.orangepippin.com/varieties/apples/ambrosia instead.
 
| sonofaragorn wrote:
| Surprised this domain was available
 
| tambourine_man wrote:
| h5 subheader "The definitive list of good and bad apples" is
| overlayed by the title on large screens
| 
| Check Elementor's page builder responsiveness
| 
| https://imgur.com/6v04O7y
 
| spuiszis wrote:
| This is simply fantastic - learned plenty of stuff about apples
| while genuinely laughing until my face hurt.
 
| sovnade wrote:
| Absolutely appalled there are apples below Red Delicious on this
| list.
 
| rehash3 wrote:
| Ah... the internet is still alive in bits and pieces! I know
| where I will be spending some time this weekend.
| 
| PS: I hate the internet being monetization of cattle vs discovery
| of wild and unclassified species in the woods.
 
  | [deleted]
 
| Snowbird3999 wrote:
| I used to be a fan, but these days I feel like there is little to
| no innovation in the top ranked apples anymore. Not to mention,
| does SweeTango even have USB-C?!
 
| johndhi wrote:
| Honey crisp massively overrated.
 
| tristanc wrote:
| An entire thread about apple rankings and no mention of Adam's
| apples?
| 
| https://adamapples.blogspot.com/
 
| stephencoyner wrote:
| They are severely underrating cosmic crisp imo. It's got all the
| flavor of the best honey crisp you've ever had with an
| unbelievably slow browning rate. You can cut one up and leave it
| out for hours and it's still not brown.
| 
| My only beef with them is that they are too big. One cosmic is
| practically 2 meals.
 
  | alach11 wrote:
  | I have to agree that Cosmic Crisp was unfairly ranked here. I
  | did a blind tasting of ten apple varietals with 14 friends and
  | Cosmic Crisp was the winner. Now there are factors (the
  | perfectly unbrowned flesh and small bites) that may have given
  | it a slightly unfair advantage. But middle of the pack seems
  | far too low.
 
  | taftster wrote:
  | I was excited for the Cosmic Crisp to broadly hit the market. I
  | have been a Honey Crisp fan for a long time, but was looking
  | forward to seeing if the CC could beat it.
  | 
  | Turned out, I just don't like the CC at all. It's too sweet?
  | And the sweetness is syrupy almost. And I miss the tartness of
  | the HC, I guess.
  | 
  | Cool looking apple, with all the stars on it and all, but I
  | actually think the ranking places it just right. e.g. in "The
  | Most Overhyped Apple of All Time" category.
 
  | hughes wrote:
  | Perfect for sharing :)
 
| cocacola1 wrote:
| The Newtown Pippin:
| 
| > This sand-filled condom from Long Island was choked down in the
| 1750s by the likes of Thomas Jefferson at Monticello, George
| Washington at Mount Vernon, and Benjamin Franklin as he declared
| it his favorite apple. Perhaps the Newtown Pippin was once a
| great apple whose quality has degraded over the centuries like
| the crumbling democracy the Founding Fathers established. Or
| perhaps, after decades of eating pigeon pie and squirrel meat,
| these wooden-toothed slave owners' tastebuds are not to be
| trusted. Either way, in today's world, aside from being excellent
| for apple cider production, the Newtown Pippin is a tasteless
| hunk of malformed donkey shit that should've been abolished
| during the reign of King George III
 
  | [deleted]
 
| xivzgrev wrote:
| "BEST USES: Compost"
| 
| couldn't agree more for red delicious. tastes like styrofoam.
 
| elil17 wrote:
| This list entirely ignores many of the highest rated apples.
| Adam's Apples, a long time apple reviewer, has six top ranked
| apples ("three stars, exceptional apple worth a quest"), all of
| which are exceptionally hard to find.
| 
| https://adamapples.blogspot.com/p/apple-ratings-explained.ht...
 
  | czam wrote:
  | Thanks, it has my recommendation Topaz as a "two-star" :)
  | 
  | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topaz_(apple) as
 
| frozenbit wrote:
| A lot of terrible eating apples are great for baking, Granny
| Smith for example.
| 
| Also, red delicious _used_ to be, well, delicious. But selective
| breeding made them taste terrible:
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Delicious
| 
| Wonder if the same will happen to other popular varieties, or if
| apple growers know better now.
 
  | unmole wrote:
  | > A lot of terrible eating apples are great for baking, Granny
  | Smith for example.
  | 
  | There's no accounting for taste. Grany Smith is my favourite
  | eating apple.
 
  | aidenn0 wrote:
  | Granny Smith falls apart when baked; I prefer something that
  | retains some toothy-ness like a Rome.
 
  | r00fus wrote:
  | I dunno - honeycrisp is not bad in a pie either. Depends on
  | your preferred consistency at the end game.
  | 
  | Preference for consistency is also very subjective - gala
  | apples while "mediocre" were preferred by my kids as they're
  | "softer" when slightly overripe, better for smaller younger
  | mouths.
 
  | jcims wrote:
  | I distinctly remember picking red delicious as easily my
  | favorite apple in the 80's. It's unrecognizable now.
 
| WFHRenaissance wrote:
| Red Delicious hate is is one of the corniest high-status opinions
| I see currently in rotation.
| 
| Red Delicious apples are regarded as some of the best apples on
| the planet by most people, the SV and NYC types hate on them
| because poor people like them.
 
| arecurrence wrote:
| I'm surprised Ambrosia scored so poorly. Ambrosia was a taste
| explosion and remains a fond memory even now years later. Perhaps
| it has a narrow optimal for eating period.
| 
| Honey Crisp is similar and generally my consolation buy as it's
| far more common to find.
 
  | medell wrote:
  | Agree, ambrosia is my #1. The fact that it is 55 and the
  | mealier, less tart, less sweet Gala apples are 70 tells me we
  | have very different tastes. It is closer to a Honeycrisp, which
  | they have as 91 and I grab when Ambrosias are unavailable.
 
| tomcam wrote:
| I'll save everyone some time.
| 
| Fuji.
 
| guyzero wrote:
| Per other commenters, Granny Smith gets downranked for being a
| mediocre apple for eating plain in-hand, but it's great for using
| in salads. We have a Granny Smith apple tree and we dry all the
| apples in a dehydrator and it makes the best apple chips.
 
  | [deleted]
 
  | dylan604 wrote:
  | Granny Smiths are also good for baking in general. They have a
  | twang to them that offsets some of the sweet, as well as being
  | a crunchy apple that doesn't turn to mush during the cook.
 
| [deleted]
 
| jefftk wrote:
| This ranking seems pretty plausible to me if you're buying your
| apples at the supermarket. It gives good marks to varieties which
| maintain their texture through weeks (or months!) of
| refrigeration.
| 
| On the other hand, if you're at an apple orchard and deciding
| what to pick to eat right now, this is not the list for you. A
| Cortland, McIntosh, or Macoun right off the tree easily beats a
| Honey/Cosmic/etc crisp.
 
  | Blackthorn wrote:
  | I wish it was easier to tell when just touching them.
  | 
  | I love fresh Empire apples, but give them two weeks and they go
  | from highly crisp to mealy. It's always a gamble even at the
  | farmstand which one I'm going to get.
 
  | Grazester wrote:
  | I came here to say this about the Cortland Apple. Right off the
  | tee it is so good. In the supermarket, not so much.
 
  | mcphage wrote:
  | Agreed. Yeah, Cortlands turn to mealy mush quickly, I admit
  | that. But when they're fresh and crisp, they're absolutely
  | amazing. This site does them dirty.
 
  | Finnucane wrote:
  | Yep. I live in New England, and in the fall it is easy to get
  | fresh Macs and Cortlands, and always so much better than what
  | is in the supermarkets most of the time. Honeycrisps are just
  | too sweet (don't get me started about sweet corn!).
 
| mmanfrin wrote:
| This blatant Fuji disrespect has not gone unnoticed. Honeycrisp
| is ranked second and Fuji is down at the bottom despite HC being
| a slightly crispier but way more expensive Fuji?!
| 
| How DARE you.
 
  | deeblering4 wrote:
  | Fuji rated far below Granny Smith? Horse food?? O H P L E A S E
 
  | [deleted]
 
  | twoWhlsGud wrote:
  | Indeed! I blame the popularity of HC's on folks applying the
  | same super-saturated attention spans they derived from spending
  | too much time on Instagram to food preferences. Fuji's are
  | yummy - HC's are over-sweet parodies of a proper apples.
  | 
  | Hrmph! : )
  | 
  | Though it's fun to read his reviews even where they're wrong,
  | so there's that.
 
| dalbasal wrote:
| Finally! An _objective_ ranking of apples. I for one am fed up
| with apples-to-oranges comparisons.
 
  | [deleted]
 
| seabriez wrote:
| Not a fan of HoneyCrisp. HC are too acidic. Tangos are pretty
| good.
 
| syntaxing wrote:
| Hah, "You've been eating trash"
 
| oezi wrote:
| Ranking apples seems ridiculous as it would be to rank wines and
| just promotes monocultures where we should strive to have the
| widest range of heritage apples with their unique tastes.
| Reduction to a few global breeds just leads us to a situation as
| with bananas where a single fungus can threaten the global banana
| supply.
 
| athenot wrote:
| One aspect that comes into play is shelf life / freshness of the
| apple. I normally find Golden Delicious apples to be completely
| devoid of taste. But they keep a long time so chances are the
| ones I come across are months old.
| 
| I was at an apple orchard a few years ago and encountered an
| awesome apple, enquired as to what was planted on that row and it
| was Golden Delicious. I triple-checked because it was a
| completely different taste than I expected.
| 
| It would seem that taste doesn't keep once the apple is picked
| and it becomes bland over time.
 
| simonsarris wrote:
| Just this week I ordered for my orchard of weird little apples:
| 
| Almata, Arkansas Black, Hudson's Golden Gem, Keepsake, Northern
| Spy, Pipsqueak, Ribston Pippin, Roxbury Russet, St. Edmund's
| Russet, Trailman, Wickson
| 
| The only one this site had was Arkansas Black, which is very mild
| right off the tree but sweetens in storage. They hated it. I
| wonder if they ate it off the tree.
 
  | KyleBerezin wrote:
  | Northern Spy is a fantastic apple. I can't remember what they
  | taste like whole, but they make great cider, and they mature
  | super late so you can have fresh cider right up into winter.
  | Most of our cider producers switch to spy in late autumn and
  | that is when the cider tastes the best.
 
| kenjackson wrote:
| I did a taste test some years ago and Fuji won by a good margin.
| And this was in the US even -- I've heard they're better in
| Japan, but I was really pleased with their quality here. BTW, all
| my testing was with organic apples, if that makes a difference.
 
| nsxwolf wrote:
| Gosh I'm already eating Honeycrisp apples and they're just like,
| pretty good I guess. Doesn't look like there's a lot of headroom.
| Maybe I just like the idea of apples more than apples themselves.
 
| Ancalagon wrote:
| Hard disagree about cosmic crisps. IMHO they panned out as good
| as advertised and I like them more than honeycrisps.
| 
| Otherwise I love this and makes me really want to try a
| SweeTango!!
 
| jeffkeen wrote:
| Really missed an opportunity not naming this site "How do you
| like them apples?"
 
| bitcurious wrote:
| It's not on the list, but if you haven't had Ananas Reinette
| apples you're in for a treat. Look for them!
 
| medell wrote:
| Most of the apples in grocery stores have been in storage for
| months since most are harvested in fall and have been sprayed
| with diphenylamine (DPA), an antioxidant that slows the
| development of black patches on the skin. DPA is banned in the EU
| because a byproduct of it when it breaks down, nitrosamine, is a
| carcinogen.
| 
| I love apples, but since finding this out, I try to avoid eating
| them out of season.
| 
| This article fails to mention DPA, but is interesting
| nonetheless!
| https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/11/26/668256349/th...
 
  | willhinsa wrote:
  | I fucking love science!!
  | 
  | Sorry, I just hate the world we've built. I would so much
  | rather live in a world where my apples are not poison but only
  | are around during the fall.
  | 
  | But, capital return requirements and the remorseless scythe of
  | competition exist, so instead we get poison apples available
  | year round.
 
  | KoftaBob wrote:
  | Would washing the apple thoroughly not remove the nitrosamine
  | byproduct? Genuinely curious.
 
| indymike wrote:
| I entered II and ][, got an error. Then I realized it was for
| fruit.
 
| m463 wrote:
| what about for baking (and other uses)?
| 
| baking an apple pie the apples need different characteristics
| than apples that taste sweet when you eat them.
| 
| Also, I was at a farmer's market and they had other
| characteristics like "baking, snacking, salads, freezes well" and
| more I can't remember.
 
| wilg wrote:
| I wish the website would recommend similar apples to ones I know
| about. One of you clowns surely knows ML or something, help this
| guy out!
 
| asah wrote:
| LOL! Example:
| 
| https://applerankings.com/arkansas-black-apple-review/
| 
| Arkansas Black Apple
| 
| This teeth-shattering oddity, boasting a deep red hue that'll
| make a dark cherry look like a fluorescent glow stick, will
| destroy your helpless mouth with every unfortunate bite. A ten
| out of ten on the Mohs Hardness Scale, this apple would perform
| admirably as a drill tip in a diamond mine. While true the
| hardness marginally decreases if left in your refrigerator for a
| full year, those patient enough to plan lunch into the next
| decade will be sorely disappointed with a thick-skinned carbuncle
| that tastes and feels like an uncooked russet potato. Truly
| despicable.
 
| yalogin wrote:
| Without going into the contents of the article, I was surprised
| to learn recently the number of varieties of apple available.
| Then I learned apple sweetness and tartness rankings is a thing.
| I don't understand why so many exist and need to exist. Why
| didn't the whole market just coalesce on a few(2/3) varieties? Do
| people actively seek a specific variety and all these are in
| vogue?
 
  | boomerango wrote:
  | It's doubly strange when you realize there's basically a single
  | species of banana that we all eat.
 
    | wizofaus wrote:
    | Fairly sure all cultivars are the same species. And I dunno
    | about you but I regular see Lady Fingers and Plantains and
    | not occasionally Red bananas at markets here along with the
    | ubiquitous Cavendish, so they obviously are eaten (I've had
    | cooked Plantain in south American dishes a fair bit, but not
    | recently). But it's probably true that most fruits are more
    | heavily dominated by a single cultivar than apples, and
    | there's rarely more than 2 or 3 alternatives readily
    | available. Esp. berries - can't think of when I saw multiple
    | options for blueberries or blackberries and even for
    | strawberries it's rare to have much choice.
 
  | StillBored wrote:
  | ? Thats the way it was just a few decades ago. Red delicious,
  | and Granny smith.
  | 
  | Now we have more choices, which is good because apples are a
  | species that produce offspring that is frequently quite
  | different than the parents. Meaning every single one of those
  | supermarket apples is the product of a long dead tree being
  | propagated.
 
  | hedora wrote:
  | The comments column table will help:
  | 
  | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_apple_cultivars
  | 
  | There used to be more than the current 7500 cultivars. Many
  | went extinct. There are groups that scour abandoned homesteads
  | looking for surviving trees of lost varieties.
  | 
  | One reason there are so many is that apple trees are readily
  | planted, but each new tree produces a completely different
  | variety of fruit. Rule of thumb is that 1% of trees produce
  | something edible, 0.1% something good, and 0.01% something
  | commercializable.
  | 
  | For this reason, almost all apples you eat come from clones.
  | (As they have been for 100's-1000's of years.)
 
| civilized wrote:
| Everyone in my family loves Granny Smiths, even the 4 year old.
| Her apple consumption greatly increases every time they're in
| season.
| 
| The top varieties listed here are indeed good but I quickly come
| to find their sweetness cloying. Meanwhile I'll eat a 5 lb bag of
| good Granny Smiths in a week.
| 
| Which brings us to another important point about apples. They
| have to be in season. If you get off-season Grannies from Chile,
| you're in for a leathery/papery-skinned, mealy disappointment.
| 
| Peak Granny season in the US is early/mid-fall, aka right now.
 
  | empiricus wrote:
  | I always peel granny smiths, so much better imo.
 
| jschveibinz wrote:
| Opal apples are at the top of the list when fresh: sweet, tangy,
| intense apple flavor, crisp, and reminiscent of trips to the
| apple orchard growing up in northeast Ohio.
 
| Night_Thastus wrote:
| You rank Jazz apples a 65? What?
| 
| Clearly flawed site is clearly flawed.
 
| chaostheory wrote:
| This list is garbage. Honey crisps are mediocre while Fujis are
| great.
 
| Waterluvian wrote:
| McIntosh: " A Seal-Skinned Canadian Letdown." 45, horse food.
| 
| So it's war then.
 
  | pivo wrote:
  | I've never had a McIntosh that wasn't grainy and bland. Where
  | do you find good tasting ones?
 
    | biotinker wrote:
    | At an orchard, or in the months of September and October.
    | 
    | McIntosh are very difficult to keep properly, with age they
    | will become mealy and bland. Same with many of its
    | descendants, like Cortland.
    | 
    | If you get to them within two weeks of being picked, they're
    | delicious.
 
  | dalbasal wrote:
  | No need for war. This list is objective, so it can't apply the
  | standard canadian handicap, as is traditional for most ranking
  | lists.
 
    | Waterluvian wrote:
    | We demand that our handicap be applied at all times.
 
  | asciimov wrote:
  | I've only once had a good McIntosh. I must have nailed the
  | exact day you want to have one, it was crisp and beautiful.
  | Every other one I have ever had was a mealy let down, even when
  | cold.
 
| Ensorceled wrote:
| This is weird site run by someone who clearly isn't an apple fan.
| My personal favourite apple, the Cortland, is rated "24
| Despicable" because:
| 
| > "The general public usually doesn't have access to an apple
| fresh off the tree in a cold orchard. My rankings must reflect
| what is available to regular folks."
| 
| In Ontario, this apple is only available for a few weeks in the
| fall because it ages and travels poorly. At least they have the
| proper opinion about the Granny Smith ...
 
  | Karawebnetwork wrote:
  | As someone from Quebec, I share your surprise. The general
  | public absolutely has access to this apple, either from picking
  | at the orchard directly (very popular social event) or from the
  | local growers that sell at the grocery store.
 
| zooweemama wrote:
| I didn't know Snapdragon was a kind of apple! Did Qualcomm name
| their SoC Snapdragon hoping to sell it to Apple? :D
 
  | Alex3917 wrote:
  | It's a new-ish Cornell cultivar that they are only licensing to
  | growers within New York state. Probably the best commercial
  | apple on the market today.
 
| lo_zamoyski wrote:
| He ranks McIntosh poorly (the mind boggles, though I will admit
| that sometimes the skin can be a little tough) while ranking some
| of the most vile, cloying varieties rather highly. A palette
| spoiled by high fructose corn syrup? That would be one charitable
| guess for some of these rankings. Also, different apples have
| different culinary uses.
| 
| I am also sad to see the limited number of cultivars. The world
| doesn't begin and end with North America. Have a Papirovka/White
| Transparent or an Antonovka some time.
 
  | nicolas_t wrote:
  | Yup, clicked and saw Honeycrisp at number 2 and no Boskoop or
  | Reine de reinette... A good apple should have some sourness to
  | counterbalance the sweetness.
 
  | [deleted]
 
| tylervigen wrote:
| I once spent a month blind taste-testing apples with my wife to
| compare the apples in our supermarket. We learned 4 things:
| 
| 1) Most of the Honeycrisp varietals that make it to market are
| good (Wild Twist and Cosmic Crisp being our favorites), but...
| 
| 2) The time of year makes a HUGE difference. It seems obvious
| when I say it, but different varietals from different farms are
| best in different weeks. Honeycrisp has an advantage here because
| it has so many growers that someone is keeping a batch in good
| condition for practically every week of the year.
| 
| 3) You have to go by the apples in your local market. Lists like
| these are hard to use because there are many more apples on it
| than you have available to choose from - most grocery stores only
| stock 3-10 varieties depending on time of year
| 
| 4) Your use case is critical. Obviously baking a pie requires a
| different apples from eating, but even if you are just eating the
| apples raw there are differences. Some apples beat others in
| texture when cut up, but have the wrong density to eat by biting
| down on the apple
| 
| After all our testing, we mostly went back to Honeycrisp because
| it's so reliable.
 
  | trip-zip wrote:
  | Point #4 is totally on point!
  | 
  | I slice lots of apples to share with my kid and there is such
  | an unexpected difference depending on the variety we buy. Some
  | apples really benefit from being cut into wedges!
 
    | ortusdux wrote:
    | I agree as well, rating apples without considering the use
    | case is a critical oversight! Kenji set the apple rating bar
    | pretty high:
    | 
    | https://www.seriouseats.com/the-food-lab-what-are-the-
    | best-a...
 
  | jacobr1 wrote:
  | I love our local farmers market during peak apple season. There
  | are maybe 20 varieties to try across the different farms, more
  | if you consider each farm's variant it own thing. Sadly we
  | still have covid restrictions preventing food-tasting.
 
  | m463 wrote:
  | I remember going to one of the local markets and asked the guy
  | putting out the apples if the organic apples were really worth
  | it.
  | 
  | He immediately pulled out an organic apple (fuji if I recall
  | correctly) and the same type, but non-organic. He cut out a
  | slice of each apple and let me taste it.
  | 
  | The organic apple had _significantly_ better flavor.
  | 
  | He explained that the drawback was that the organic apples
  | would go bad quickly so you should only buy what you need, and
  | eat them promptly.
 
    | nonethewiser wrote:
    | > The organic apple had significantly better flavor.
    | 
    | What are you concluding from that? You can get the same apple
    | 1 week apart and have a significantly different experience.
    | 
    | Or you could get the same apple at the same time from
    | different batches and have a significant difference.
    | 
    | Or you could get two apples from the same batch at the same
    | time and they could vary a lot.
 
    | RussianCow wrote:
    | Anecdotally, I find this to be the case with many fruits,
    | especially citrus. I always figured that a lemon is a lemon
    | and a lime is a lime, but after getting into cocktails and
    | mixology, I realized that there is a night-and-day difference
    | between high-quality fruit and the cheap stuff at your
    | discount grocery store. This doesn't mean organic fruit is
    | always strictly better, but I have found it to be a pretty
    | reliable proxy for quality.
 
      | yojo wrote:
      | Fruit at the discount grocery store is usually old/nearing
      | end of life. Citrus, and limes in particular, get
      | noticeably more bitter as they age and oxidize.
      | 
      | This actually leads to a schism in European/American
      | bartending. Europe juices their citrus a la minute, so the
      | juice has no time to oxidize, making the acid component
      | punchier. American bars pre-juice before service, and it
      | has time to mellow out a little.
      | 
      | Someone (Dave Arnold maybe) ran a blind taste test with
      | bartenders from Europe and America and found that the their
      | preferences lined up with the customs in their country.
      | 
      | Personally I follow the Europeans. Not because I like it
      | better, but because I don't have the kind of foresight to
      | juice hours before I'm making drinks :-)
 
      | MivLives wrote:
      | And god forbid you have premade line juice. Roses is the
      | absolute worst (and people keep bringing it to make
      | daquaris), but the extra effort for fresh juiced is worth
      | it.
 
        | tetraca wrote:
        | Rose's is barely juice, probably only really suitable for
        | gimlets. You can get straight lemon/lime juice in glass
        | bottles. I find that works as a mostly fine alternative
        | if I don't feel like squeezing.
 
        | ricardobeat wrote:
        | You might want to reconsider that, at least for homemade
        | pre-made juice:
        | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RA3AaCO7A8
 
        | MivLives wrote:
        | Thank you for the link. I hadn't heard of this, and I'm
        | going to give it a try now!
 
        | nerdkid93 wrote:
        | I love Super Juice! If I'm going to have friends over for
        | a get together or party, I'll make a batch (or multiple
        | if I want more than 1 fruit) a few days ahead of time to
        | increase the speed in which drinks can be made. The
        | downside is that garnishes still generally tend to need
        | peels, so I still need to have a couple real fruits
        | hanging around.
 
    | gleb wrote:
    | That's because conventional store apples are coated with wax
    | and organic ones are not. Wax often has bad, usually bitter,
    | taste and unpleasant texture.
    | 
    | Organic apples are not coated with wax, so they taste better,
    | but will dry up faster.
 
    | ravedave5 wrote:
    | We got organic bananas because the regular bananas were all
    | green. They were SO GOOD. Bananas are so damn cheap overall
    | we just always get the organic ones and they do seem overall
    | better.
 
| fastaguy88 wrote:
| Apple rankings are much less about varieties and much more about
| freshness/locality. If you do not live in an apple growing (and
| distributing) state, these rankings might make sense. But as
| someone who can get orchard fresh apples in Virginia, the lowest-
| ranked variety of Virginia apple in season will beat the highest-
| ranked Washington/Oregon apple hands down.
| 
| For fresh fruit, there is nothing better than shopping local.
 
| rkagerer wrote:
| _The SweeTango apple was developed by the University of Minnesota
| (UM), which also developed its parents, the Honeycrisp and
| Zestar! apples. Accordingly, SweeTango is intellectual property
| owned by UM and licensed to our farmer cooperative of 47 growers
| that sell the fruit throughout the United States and Canada. In
| fact, our growers lease the trees._
| 
| https://sweetango.com/find-faqs/
 
  | skue wrote:
  | You omitted the link that has a lot more detail about why they
  | released it this way:
  | 
  | http://sweetango.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/ruralcoopera...
  | 
  | > 44 apple growers... are members of "Next Big Thing, A
  | Growers' Cooperative" (NBT)... across the United States and
  | Canada. Their ranks include both small and large producers...
  | 
  | > NBT was the brainchild of Minnesota apple grower Dennis
  | Courtier, owner of Pepin Heights Orchards Inc. While Minnesota
  | is a small player in the U.S. apple industry, ranked 20 out of
  | 29 commercially producing states in 2014, Courtier is well
  | known in the industry for new variety innovation. He was one of
  | the first commercial producers to grow and market Honeycrisp
  | apples in the 1990s. Honeycrisp -- a "fruit phenomenon"
  | produced by the University of Minnesota's (UMN) apple-breeding
  | program -- has turned the apple category on its head. By 2014,
  | it had rocketed to become the No. 6 apple variety in the United
  | States, based on production.
  | 
  | > Honeycrisp saved [Courtier's] orchards, but soon it was being
  | grown in geography it wasn't suited to, and, arguably, being
  | overgrown. The university had released it as an "open variety"
  | -- meaning that after paying a small royalty to a variety's
  | developer, any grower can buy Honeycrisp trees and sell the
  | fruit as they wish.
  | 
  | > If apple growers were to be financially healthy in the long
  | term, Courtier felt that apple production and marketing would
  | have to change.
  | 
  | And this describing one of the co-op members, which may explain
  | why other comments have different opinions about Red
  | Delicious...
  | 
  | > The Clarks watched the decline of the Red Delicious (Reds)
  | variety from a front-row seat. Chelan was historically known
  | for producing prime-quality Reds. Then the variety was "bred to
  | grow red" in parts of the state that weren't good "terroir" (or
  | growing territory) for it. That fruit didn't taste as good or
  | store as well.
  | 
  | > The variety's popularity with consumers fell far and fast...
  | 
  | > "As consumers ourselves, we know that if we consumers don't
  | get a good apple, we don't come back for a while," says Bill
  | Clark. "NBT is managing who grows an apple, where it grows,
  | what the eating experience is. That's paramount to the
  | variety's sustainability
 
| quickthrower2 wrote:
| As someone who enjoys eating a lemon, so sourness is no issue,
| Granny Smiths are pretty good IMO. I always got a sense they were
| harder to digest after eating them, it does feel like roughage
| ... and the site agrees by saying they are the hardest to digest
| apple, but good for gut flora as a result.
| 
| Also I like the mild clickbait. By making apple the first word, I
| assumed they meant Apple Inc.
 
| ianai wrote:
| I once had access (local grocer) to apples that were green on the
| outside and red fleshed on the inside. I forget the name and
| haven't seen them in years. Wish I could find them again as they
| were perfect for this time of year.
 
| drdo wrote:
| Wrong, granny smith is number one.
 
  | itisit wrote:
  | For baking an apple pie, not for eating directly.
 
    | cosentiyes wrote:
    | Wrong, #1 in all categories.
 
| fxtentacle wrote:
| It's missing my favorite Apple for making juice, the "Cox's
| Orange Pippin"!
| 
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cox%27s_Orange_Pippin
 
  | _whiteCaps_ wrote:
  | Roald Dahl's favourite apple! Mine too.
 
| nilespotter wrote:
| I'm all about that Honeycrisp life but I like to weave in Granny
| Smith & Fuji, I don't know what this guy is smoking.
 
| bcaulfield wrote:
| Granny Smith, Red Delicious are both, rightly, trashed. Good.
 
| iMark wrote:
| I wonder how many fewer clicks the article would have received
| had the title been "Ranking apples"
 
  | mandeepj wrote:
  | > had the title been "Ranking apples"
  | 
  | That gives a totally different meaning though
 
    | iMark wrote:
    | Well, yes.
 
| docandrew wrote:
| Granny Smith is severely underrated here. This site is like
| hipster-tier ratings of vinyl with a bunch of obscure stuff
| nobody ever heard of to try and appear more sophisticated.
 
  | [deleted]
 
  | sangnoir wrote:
  | I wanted to say the same thing: the Granny Smith slander is
  | uncalled for.
 
  | treesrule wrote:
  | You don't understand Nevermind wasn't actually all that good
  | Bandwagonesque BY Teenage Fanclub was actually better and more
  | instrumental into turning the early 90s into an audio
  | experience.
 
| 98codes wrote:
| I can tell that the person doing the rankings doesn't try to bake
| with these apples, or do anything but eat them out of hand; this
| is basically Hot or Not but for apples.
 
  | favorited wrote:
  | They said they consider factors such as use in baking as
  | secondary:
  | 
  | "After the initial one hundred point evaluation is calculated
  | several additional factors are considered which may add or
  | subtract points. These include: Lineage, History,
  | Sustainability, Uniqueness, Longevity, and Alternative Uses
  | (cider, applesauce, baking)."
 
| kentt wrote:
| Missing my favourite apple: Aurora. This is the best apple by
| far. Last long, taste is amazing (though maybe a bit too sweet
| after a while). I can't rarely find them. Does anyone know how to
| track down where apples are grown?
 
  | fanatic2pope wrote:
  | Assuming you mean the Aurora Golden Gala, this is also my
  | favourite with Honeycrisp a close second. The only place I have
  | ever found them for sale is in Vancouver. I discovered them at
  | the UBC Botanical Garden Apple festival
  | (https://botanicalgarden.ubc.ca/apple-festival-2022-recap/)
 
  | codpiece wrote:
  | Oh! We had Aurora apples in upstate NY recently, they were
  | wonderful. We were in Apple Valley right around Syracuse/Finger
  | lakes region.
  | 
  | Can't seem to find anywhere to order them shipped though.
 
  | sedatk wrote:
  | Apparently, Aurora is a cross between Golden Delicious (33/100
  | - horse food) and Royal Gala (70/100 - mediocre).
 
| js2 wrote:
| I don't know what's with the hate on Granny Smith. I love Granny
| Smith apples. They are especially good for making Waldorf salad.
| They are also my favorite to eat with honey at new years. They
| have a nice crispy texture and are delightfully tangy.
 
  | fideloper wrote:
  | I eat a granny smith every day. They don't deserve this
  | ranking, and this is absolutely a hill I will...uh... lie down
  | on. Not die on.
  | 
  | I pair it with some cheddar cheese.
  | 
  | Another good pairing with cheddar cheese is Mcintosh. When
  | they're in season, they're great.
  | 
  | Lately I haven't been able to find mcintosh apples in the store
  | (or if I did, they're mushy and gross). I suspect that's the
  | case with a lot of these apples. The Mcintosh apples I got in
  | Connecticut were great, but here in Texas they are trash.
 
    | innocentoldguy wrote:
    | Mmm. I like Granny Smith apples with cheddar cheese too.
    | Especially in toasted-cheese form.
 
  | efa wrote:
  | Me too. And they last forever and are still good and crisp.
 
  | taftster wrote:
  | Purely as a standalone apple, the Granny Smith does NOT (in
  | most opinions, it seems) hold its own against other apples. A
  | 1v1 challenge against some of the more popular apples seemingly
  | places the GS as the loser.
  | 
  | However, you mentioned the pairing and combinational use of the
  | GS, which is where it shines. Granny Smith is meant to be
  | dipped, diced, baked, smothered, cheesed, etc. The GS goes way
  | up in rankings, when you pair it with other foods.
  | 
  | I think that's why GS is low on the rankings. It's probably
  | getting a bit harsh of a review on that site, I grant you, but
  | again I don't think it holds up as a standalone apple quite the
  | same as others.
 
| lettergram wrote:
| As someone who has 20 off apple trees, while these ratings are
| fine. There are some reasons to have apples not listed. For
| instance, I have Arkansas Black apple trees. They are hardier
| than trees like honey crisp and their apples last 6 months in a
| chilled environment. Compare that with honey crisp and you're
| only talking a handful of weeks.
 
| loeg wrote:
| Wow, they like Pink Ladies better than Cosmic Crisp? Bizarre.
 
| ngalaiko wrote:
| a system that ranks Jazz apples as mediocre is obviously flawed
 
| technologia wrote:
| It's not the site we wanted but the one we needed but never knew.
 
| irrational wrote:
| Pink Lady not being ranked higher is a crime.
| 
| Though, there should be different rankings for what use the Apple
| is being put to. You want different varieties depending if you
| are using it to make applesauce, eating it plain, making a pie,
| etc.
| 
| Except for red delicious. It is the absolute worst and has no
| uses. Such a mealy Apple.
 
| earksiinni wrote:
| Arkansas Black as one of the _bad_ apples?
| 
| Is this a joke?
| 
| I had one for the first time from our local co-op. It was
| definitely firmer than any other apple I've had but I wouldn't
| call it "teeth-shattering" by any means.
| 
| Oh, but the flavor. Exquisite. Floral, fragrant. Tasted half like
| a really good apple, half like a perfectly ripe Bosc pear.
| 
| Do yourself a favor and find a ripe Arkansas Black apple. Best
| apple I ever had.
 
| db1234 wrote:
| Before clicking on the link, I thought Apple launched a web
| search service.
 
| themagician wrote:
| I was a big Honeycrisp fan for a long time, but they have gotten
| too sweet for me now. They also seem to grow them the size of
| grapefruits these days.
 
| plgonzalezrx8 wrote:
| 100% disagree with these rankings.
| 
| But then, all the top ones he selected are reds, so yeah...
 
| sharkweek wrote:
| _Scrolls to bottom_
| 
| Red delicious in the bottom 10.
| 
| Perfect.
| 
| This also reminds me of a side project blog I built years ago
| where I'd review and rank chips (potato/tortilla/other).
| 
| Was a fun creative outlet for a while but life got too busy. I
| hope to pick it back up some day.
 
  | OscarTheGrinch wrote:
  | Red Delicious is the sort of apple that a kid finds at their
  | grandparents place, takes one bite and returns it to the fruit
  | bowl.
 
    | aaronbrethorst wrote:
    | The flavorless, hard apple you'd find in a school lunch. I
    | remember chucking these into the trash in elementary school
    | in the late 80s and early 90s, where it would land alongside
    | dozens of other "thick-skinned, flavorless, mealy imposters."
 
  | schnevets wrote:
  | Years ago, my friend and I had a tumblr called Loo York City
  | where we reviewed bar bathrooms in NYC. We had some fun nights
  | drinking at bars and writing up grandiose assessments about
  | life based on where you go pee. The page received no traction
  | whatsoever and we eventually took it down, but I still have
  | local copies of the reviews and reread them more often than I
  | care to admit. The writing is more entertaining and memory-
  | triggering than any free-form journal I ever attempted.
  | 
  | Nowadays, I write beer (and sometimes wine) reviews in a
  | similar matter. I would never post them on untappd or elsewhere
  | because the thought of someone who brewed the beer actually
  | stumbling across something so self-indulgent makes me uneasy,
  | but I have found it to be a fun, low-stakes creative outlet
  | (even if my wife dislikes me writing notes while we're out)
 
| gaoshan wrote:
| Are they trying to measure cooking apples by the eating apple
| metric? Because they dunked on some cooking apples that would be
| a million times better in a pie than any of the highest rated
| ones.
 
| perfectstorm wrote:
| They gave Honeycrisp 5 stars for sweetness but only gave 2 stars
| to Fuji. that doesn't make sense to me. Fuji is one of the
| sweetest tasting apples and Honeycrisp is a mix of sweetness and
| tartness.
 
  | minitoar wrote:
  | Yeah I was really surprised by the low Fuji ranking.
 
    | xivzgrev wrote:
    | agreed. Fuji is my go-to when it's on sale at Costco.
 
  | lm28469 wrote:
  | It's a list made by a comedian, I wouldn't take it too
  | seriously, reading the descriptions it's a pretty clear that
  | it's at least partially, if not majoritarly, a joke website
 
    | jeremyjh wrote:
    | But it says 100% accurate!
 
| blowski wrote:
| What, no Russets?! And Pink Lady are all sugar and no flavour.
 
  | janj wrote:
  | I tried them [Russets] once years ago and was blown away,
  | haven't seen them since but I've been looking.
 
  | ISL wrote:
  | Are there Russet apples? I associate the term with potatoes.
  | 
  | TIL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russet_apple
 
| vehemenz wrote:
| The ratings aren't serious, but I like the idea of having a "go
| to" site that simply provides a rating, brief description, and
| that's it.
| 
| It would be great to have something like this for movies, since
| IMDB and RT are not serious ratings (MetaCritic is a bit closer,
| I suppose).
 
| wanderingmoose wrote:
| My favorite description of a Red Delicious apple was from Mitsuwa
| (japanese grocery store in the US): "Looks nice, flavorless. Ok
| in salads"
| 
| Growing up, I really liked Winesaps from a local orchard, but
| those were rated "Horse Food" on this list. To each their own, I
| guess.
 
| kernal wrote:
| Savage
| 
| >Oh how the mighty have fallen! Believe it or not, the coffee
| grinds in a leather glove known as "The Red Delicious Apple" was
| once a robust firebrand credited with reinventing the apple from
| mere cider-fruit into a full-fledged lunch-worthy sidepiece. It
| even won the Stark Brothers apple contest in 1894. Likely your
| great-grandma's favorite apple, this once flavorful Prometheus
| has been mass-produced into desolation.
| 
| > Nowadays, you can find this thick-skinned, flavorless, mealy
| imposter unwashed in a dirty wicker basket on the floor of a
| convenience store. What a sad state of affairs. It's time to hang
| them up old man, your time has passed.
 
| silisili wrote:
| Anyone who puts Pink Lady at 80 deserves no audience at all.
| Blasphemy.
 
| adenner wrote:
| Personally I am a fan of Tolman Sweet apples, but they are rather
| hard to come by.
 
| lcuff wrote:
| Others mention how pies call for different apples. In the same
| vein, my father's cousin, a farmer and now sadly no longer with
| us, had a strong opinion about apples that were best for
| applesauce. Sadly, I don't remember which variety. He lived in
| rural Ontario, Canada, and knew the only farm in the area that
| grew that variety, so that's where we'd go to buy apples when it
| was time to make applesauce.
 
  | innocentoldguy wrote:
  | I like Ruby Red apples for applesauce because there's no work
  | involved. They come out of the skin as a sloppy puree.
 
    | fellowniusmonk wrote:
    | Yeah, I wish there was an index organized by "baking",
    | "eating", "sauce".
    | 
    | About 20 years ago I was visiting a friend in south eastern
    | Indian. While buying groceries at a local chain there was a
    | chatty old lady in the apple section who exclaimed that some
    | breed of apple was available and that you didn't see them
    | often any more and they made the best apple sauce.
    | 
    | Intrigued I bought some even though I had no plan to make
    | apple sauce and threw them in a pot like she instructed, they
    | turned into a perfectly sweet and flavorful sauce with no
    | intervention at all.
    | 
    | It was almost a shame to add cinnamon they were so good.
    | 
    | I tried an uncooked slice and it was the mealiest garbage
    | I've ever tried but as a sauce it was the platonic ideal of
    | an applesauce. I wish I could remember the variety.
 
| drstewart wrote:
| Honeycrisps are overrated. Too sweet. It's a meme apple at this
| point. Cosmic Crisps beat them all day long imo.
 
| azalemeth wrote:
| There is a local business in Oxford, run by a retired railway
| engineer and countertenor, called Tiddly Pommes. They (well, he)
| produces hyper-local apple juice, often from a single tree or
| small collection of trees in someone's garden, harvested by hand,
| pressed, and pasteurised. It's amazingly, amazingly delicious. I
| really didn't expect it to be quite as delicious as it is; all
| store bought juice is somehow forever disappointing in
| comparison. He runs grading systems and seeks out more obscure
| varieties from old Victorian trees, many of which might be sourer
| but somehow crisp and refreshingly delicious juiced.
 
| morepork wrote:
| Doesn't have my go to, the Eve apple, I guess it's a US centric
| list?
| 
| https://specialtyproduce.com/produce/Eve_Apples_12823.php
 
| leogout wrote:
| Go read the worst ranked apples it is absolutely worth it. I've
| waken up my wife laughing out loud...
 
| janandonly wrote:
| Perfect ranking is possible. Also, Kanzi apples are indeed the
| best kind.
 
| Cockbrand wrote:
| Where's Elstar? Or Gravenstein? Both are excellent apples in both
| flavor and texture.
 
  | vehemenz wrote:
  | Cultivars are highly regional.
  | 
  | About half of the apples on this list are ones I recognize as
  | being generally available in the US, depending on the time of
  | year, but I'm not sure how the others were chosen.
 
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