[HN Gopher] Why Retaining Walls Collapse
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Why Retaining Walls Collapse
 
Author : chmaynard
Score  : 166 points
Date   : 2021-12-07 15:28 UTC (7 hours ago)
 
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| ksec wrote:
| Saw the video on YouTube and thought about posting in on HN, but
| somehow I felt Video content generally dont belong to HN, so I am
| glad there is blog version and getting some attention.
| 
| I am much more interested though to know why it was already 4
| years behind schedule.
 
| rob74 wrote:
| > _Depending on the steepness, it's either inconvenient, or
| entirely impossible to use sloped areas for building things,
| walking, driving, or even as open spaces like parks. In dense
| urban areas, real estate comes at a premium, so it doesn't make
| sense to waste valuable land on slopes. Where space is limited,
| it often makes sense to avoid this disadvantage by using a
| retaining wall to support soil vertically._
| 
| As someone born in a completely flat city and now living in
| another completely flat city (600 m higher, but still flat), I
| always kinda liked slopes, especially sloped house plots - they
| force architects to come up with creative solutions instead of
| cookie-cutter boredom. But I didn't realise how far people's
| dislike for slopes can go until I saw this monstrosity near Nice
| (France) while on holiday there:
| https://goo.gl/maps/zf5H1jSA855bSa4XA (you can take a better look
| in the 3D view). That's right, they must have excavated a whole
| lot of rock there, and are putting up with a ~ 20 m sheer rock
| face right next to their houses, just so they can have nice flat
| plots of land! Ok, it's rock, so probably more stable than a
| retaining wall holding back dirt, but I would still be worried
| living next to that precipice (either above or below) - if not
| for my immediate safety, then for the long term value of my
| property...
 
  | orthecreedence wrote:
  | I live on a hill, and the driveway ends below the house, so
  | when we need to haul up materials (gravel, lumber, etc) for
  | various projects, it's walking up a bunch of steps and
  | slippery/muddy hills. I don't mind slopes on their own, and in
  | fact quite like the exercise for every day use, but when you're
  | hauling buckets of gravel or a cord of firewood, it sure would
  | be nice if you could just load up a utility cart and walk it
  | over to where it needs to be (or hell, drive your truck across
  | the yard). It's not possible where we live because of the hill.
  | So I can absolutely relate to why people don't like to live on
  | a hill. And for hanging out outside with friends, you can't
  | beat flat areas.
  | 
  | That said, the view is really incredible (we live in the woods)
  | and we don't get water pooling in our place or flooding or
  | anything like that thanks to some well-designed drainage, so,
  | you know, pros and cons.
 
  | jefftk wrote:
  | What makes you think it was excavated from a continuous slope
  | instead of naturally being a near-cliff?
 
    | rob74 wrote:
    | If you look at the area in the 3D view in Google Maps, it's
    | pretty obvious - the plots left and right of this small
    | neighbourhood are on a slope, just there the terrain is
    | almost horizontal...
 
| ggm wrote:
| Calls out for pictures. Begging for some diagrams.
 
  | mitchdoogle wrote:
  | Did you watch the video? That's the primary content. The
  | article is basically just the script for the video
 
    | ggm wrote:
    | I did not. Thanks, good call. [Edit] Then, later on I did.
    | His graphics and cutaway models are really good.
 
| jdavis703 wrote:
| Perhaps this is usual, but when Caltrain was building the new
| approaches for the elevated Hillsdale station I noticed they were
| just pouring concrete on top of plants.
| 
| Maybe not the biggest deal, but I'm pretty sure the engineering
| algorithms assume a solid mass of concrete. Hopefully there's
| enough safety margin that this doesn't matter.
 
  | SECProto wrote:
  | Not usual - what sort of plants? What did the concrete look
  | like it was doing?
  | 
  | Organic material would be fine if it was underneath eg, a
  | temporary pathway or something, but that's about it. Actually
  | it might also be fine for secant pile cap (talked about in this
  | video[1]): when you drill a secant pile, you generally pour a
  | concrete cap (that then gets drilled away).
  | 
  | [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF9FLUioZv8
 
    | jdavis703 wrote:
    | I would describe these plants as large, probably seasonal
    | weeds. So it's not like they were woody trees or anything.
    | Just seemed kind of shoddy.
 
| SECProto wrote:
| If you click the image at the top, it will load the youtube
| video[1] (which is the better source in my opinion - the blog is
| essentially closed captioning for the video, without any of the
| graphics). The only indicator is a small play triangle in the
| centre of the image/link - the cursor doesn't change on
| mouseover.
| 
| [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--DKkzWVh-E
 
  | kevincox wrote:
  | I agree. I already watched the video and was surprised that I
  | couldn't find a link from this page. The fact that the header
  | image is clickable is very non-intuitive. At the very least the
  | cursor should change on hover.
 
  | rob74 wrote:
  | I realized something was fishy when I read "I'm Grady and this
  | is Practical Engineering" at the end of the first paragraph...
  | but still, I appreciate these articles, easier to skim through
  | than a video. And if you're really interested, you can still
  | watch the video...
 
    | SECProto wrote:
    | That's fair - I've just watched a lot of his videos (I think
    | they're great), and the visual aids really make the
    | explanations intuitive.
 
| mikewarot wrote:
| I live in a very flat part of the US. I always assumed that the
| opposing retaining walls were tied to each other. I'm surprised
| there's no real anchor to this stuff.
 
  | zie wrote:
  | The earth IS the anchor :)
 
| kjander79 wrote:
| Can someone explain to me why the brickwork in the picture in
| this example is just separated columns, using the cap to hold
| them together, rather than interlocking the bricks? I'm sure
| that's not the reason the structure collapsed, but once there's
| movement in the wall, it seems like that would contribute to loss
| of cohesion.
 
  | hinkley wrote:
  | He covered this type of construction in an earlier video, and I
  | think this is the key line:
  | 
  | > Gravity walls and mechanically stabilized earth are effective
  | retaining walls when you're building up or out. In other words,
  | they're constructed from the ground up.
  | 
  | The soil behind this type of wall is supposed to have been
  | stabilized by layering a tension material at intervals to keep
  | it from moving. There's a demo of compacting sand with layers
  | of cloth and then using the cube of 'sand' to support one wheel
  | of a car. The material sags slightly and then holds.
  | 
  | My understanding is that those concrete puzzle pieces aren't
  | predominantly load bearing. Mostly they are for erosion
  | prevention and perhaps moisture control (not just keeping water
  | out but keeping the hydration consistent over time and
  | distance).
 
    | hamburglar wrote:
    | Yes, he goes into it in more detail on the video about
    | mechanically stabilized soil, but the techniques used to
    | stabilize the soil mean the wall is entirely stable without
    | the concrete face, and the face is there to keep the soil
    | from getting eroded away and to look nicer.
 
| pomian wrote:
| Great little video explaining all the hidden engineering and
| technology that we don't see. As with any good presentation, nie
| we have questions. For example, how do you prevent that slump
| from happening, that he showed at the end? How did engineers fix
| those broken highways? Then part two? I assume, would be to show
| how soil, ground analysis works, with drilling, sampling etc. to
| define stability, and what engineering used for that.
 
| h2odragon wrote:
| I helped build earthen structures with sharper slopes than 25
| degrees 30 some years ago that are still holding back ponds
| today. "Soil compaction" is the magic that can turn native earth
| into a real wall that will hold load for quite a long time. The
| surface treatments, bricks or vegetation or etc are not load
| bearing, they're a skin to prevent erosion, much like paint on
| steel.
| 
| I'm slightly puzzled it doesn't get mentioned here. Has this
| knowledge been lost? I've not been observing construction work
| first hand for a while but I don't recall the last time i saw a
| sheep's foot roller in use.
 
  | mckeed wrote:
  | Does that vary with the type of soil? I wonder if the 25
  | degrees he mentioned is an average based on the properties of
  | the soil.
  | 
  | Either way, you can't really get to an angle that would be
  | considered a "wall" without mechanical reinforcements, can you?
 
  | hh28b9b17bf197 wrote:
  | It is mentioned at 6:32 in the video. As other comments have
  | mentioned though, its not clear that this article is a
  | transcript of a video
 
  | SECProto wrote:
  | > I helped build earthen structures with sharper slopes than 25
  | degrees 30 some years ago that are still holding back ponds
  | today.
  | 
  | I think you may be mistaken - note that a "25 degree slope" is
  | just a different way to say a 2 to 1 slope (2 feet across, 1
  | foot up). I've seen 2:1 slopes used for highway embankments,
  | but earth fill usually specified as a 3:1 slope (18 degrees) -
  | eg when I worked with an earth fill dam (holding back water,
  | same as yours). I've only seen anything steeper (1:1, 45 deg)
  | used a as a temporary (during construction) condition.
  | 
  | Sheepsfoot rollers are good for packing very fine material
  | (silt, clay) but not very good for packing larger granular
  | material (i.e. crushed stone/gravel). Silt and clay are very
  | water sensitive materials: each has a very specific moisture
  | content where it can be packed properly, if your material is
  | outside of this narrow range it will not get to maximum
  | compaction (and therefore it will eventually settle). Water
  | moves very slowly through clay so if it is too wet or too dry
  | it's very difficult to get it back into the proper moisture
  | range, and if there's a bit too much sun or some rain between
  | excavation and placement it will not get packed well. The only
  | reason I've seen clay-ey earth intentionally used is for
  | inhibiting water movement, IE an earth fill dam - and even
  | there, it was a secondary barrier if anything happened to leak
  | through the barrier membrane.
  | 
  | Crushed stone is (relatively) very easy to get to maximum
  | compaction, and if it sits out for a while and gets too dry you
  | can just hit it with a water truck before placing. It packs
  | quickly and easily, and is stable at the ssame side slopes as
  | earth fill
 
    | h2odragon wrote:
    | Yes my experience is dated and my memory none too good, thank
    | you for expanding. My experience is all with "perfect" high
    | clay soils and I'm sure many of our jobs were "under-
    | engineered" to put it politely.
    | 
    | We had some _crazy_ operators who would do things like
    | chaining the dozer to a trackhoe at the top of the hill so it
    | would not roll over, to do the final grade of the slope.
    | There 's more laws now, and/or fewer fools with earth moving
    | equipment.
 
      | SECProto wrote:
      | > Yes my experience is dated and my memory none too good,
      | thank you for expanding
      | 
      | No worries, when I heard 25 degrees my gut reaction was
      | "that can't be right". Then I did the calculation and saw
      | that the common ratios used are a lot fewer degrees than I
      | expected :) I was thinking of grades in percentage (rise
      | divided by run expressed as a percentage - so 50% for a 2:1
      | slope, 33% for a 3:1, etc)
      | 
      | > There's more laws now, and/or fewer fools with earth
      | moving equipment
      | 
      | I think stricter rules (or enforcement thereof) has led to
      | the proliferation of long-reach excavators.
 
  | Enginerrrd wrote:
  | I'm a civil engineer, soil compaction is still critical for any
  | grading fill and will continue to be important. One of the
  | biggest issues though is that it can be really hard to compact
  | native material to the required spec. It has to be perfectly
  | within a narrow window of moisture content +/- just a few perce
  | t to achieve full compaction.
 
  | krisoft wrote:
  | > I'm slightly puzzled it doesn't get mentioned here. Has this
  | knowledge been lost?
  | 
  | Clearly not. He talked about soil compaction in earlier
  | articles:
  | 
  | In "Why SpaceX Cares About Dirt"[1] he talks about soil
  | compaction through surcharge loading.
  | 
  | In "What Really Happened At Edenville and Sanford Dams?"[2] he
  | talks about how the lack of proper soil compaction was one
  | reason behind the dam failures.
  | 
  | In "Why Does Road Construction Take So Long?" he identifies
  | soil compaction as one of the most time consuming parts of road
  | construction.
  | 
  | If anything he didn't talk about soil compaction in this
  | article to avoid repeating himself. :)
  | 
  | 1: https://practical.engineering/blog/2021/10/28/why-spacex-
  | car...
  | 
  | 2: https://practical.engineering/blog/2021/10/14/what-really-
  | ha...
  | 
  | 3: https://practical.engineering/blog/2020/6/1/why-does-road-
  | co...
 
    | jacobolus wrote:
    | Additional relevant videos:
    | 
    | https://practical.engineering/blog/2016/5/15/mechanically-
    | st...
    | 
    | https://practical.engineering/blog/2017/6/28/how-do-
    | sinkhole...
    | 
    | https://practical.engineering/blog/2018/7/1/how-soil-
    | destroy...
    | 
    | https://practical.engineering/blog/2018/7/16/how-
    | quicksand-c...
 
  | tda wrote:
  | I can assure you surface compaction is still a thing. Never
  | seen sheep's foot rollers, but I have seen really big square
  | rollers. A square doesn't roll very well, but that is the
  | point: every tumble it makes it crashes into to soil. Problem
  | is it is extremely uncomfortably for the operator, even if
  | pulled by a really big tractor. These rollers are called impact
  | rollers.
  | 
  | Also in use are rapid impact compactors, basically a crane
  | pounding away. Vibro compaction, where 30m long vibrating
  | needles are driven into to soil. And best of all, Dynamic
  | impact compaction: lift a big chunk of concrete 50m in the air
  | and let it free fall. Then do it again and again... See
  | https://vimeo.com/415927984 @ 3:15
 
  | jerf wrote:
  | Soil compaction has been covered in a couple of other Practical
  | Engineering videos.
  | 
  | It seems several people are complaining that a transcript of a
  | ~10 minute video isn't an entire engineering education in all
  | possible details of how to create retaining walls. I think
  | that's asking for an awful lot. But at the very least let's
  | credit the things already discussed elsewhere.
 
    | VintageCool wrote:
    | Given that this is a transcript of a video, and that video
    | has pictures and diagrams to help illustrate what is being
    | discussed, I would have really liked to be able to see those
    | pictures and diagrams interspersed with the text while I was
    | reading.
 
    | nightpool wrote:
    | It's kind of surprising to learn that this is a transcript!
    | The "play" icon was really easy to miss for me and almost
    | entirely blended in to what I now realize is a video
    | thumbnail (I thought it was just a header image!).
 
    | cf100clunk wrote:
    | Show me a homebuilding article or video that doesn't discuss
    | essential tools - that's kind of my issue with not mentioning
    | Proctor Tests in this context, as they are fundamental at the
    | pro geotech level. Its not too much to ask.
 
      | jerf wrote:
      | How many other equally important things are also not
      | mentioned?
      | 
      | I'm going to find "zero" very hard to believe, what with
      | this being a 10 minute general audience video. I seriously
      | doubt I'm just three additional minutes away from being an
      | expert on the topic ready to take on any geoengineering
      | task I could desire.
      | 
      | Edit: Let me put it a different way. While I watch and
      | enjoy his video series, I've been showing them to my
      | 10-year-old and 13-year-old kids, and I'm pretty sure
      | they're not that far out of the target audience.
 
        | cf100clunk wrote:
        | Well I won't belabour this, as the definition of
        | "valuable" information can be as amorphous and/or
        | personal as that of "quality". Glad that website and its
        | videos are out there anyways, and glad somebody may have
        | learned about Proctor Testing.
 
      | jasode wrote:
      | _> discuss essential tools - that's kind of my issue with
      | not mentioning Proctor Tests in this context, as they are
      | fundamental at the pro geotech level._
      | 
      | The top 2 videos from the following Youtube search results
      | about "retaining walls" do not mention Proctor Tests.
      | 
      | https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=retaining+wall
      | +...
      | 
      | And halfway down those search results is a retaining wall
      | video presented by geotechnical engineer Andrew Lees that's
      | _longer in duration_ than Grady 's video and he doesn't
      | mention Proctor Test either:
      | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGuX7rmzlzA
      | 
      | And after reading the wikipedia article about Proctor
      | Tests, I think Grady made the right _editorial judgement_
      | to omit that topic from a 10-minute video _targeted at a
      | general audience_.
      | 
      | Or put another way, if cf100clunk made a video about
      | retaining walls and was constrained to 10-minutes, you
      | would also be forced to leave out some essential topic that
      | other geotechnical engineers would criticize. You can't
      | please everyone when you have time constraints.
      | 
      | EDIT add: thanks to other's links, I noticed that Grady
      | already mentioned Proctor test in a previous June 2020
      | video _" Why Does Road Construction Take So Long?"_
 
        | cf100clunk wrote:
        | No need to call me out personally for my observations. It
        | isn't an HN thing to do. As I've said in another post,
        | glad the website and video are out there, and glad to
        | inform folks about the Proctor Test.
 
| gerdesj wrote:
| Civ Eng graduate that ended up in IT here. For home projects,
| please consider gabions as well as the usual suspects when you
| are building retaining walls.
| 
| A gabion is a galvanised steel wire cage say: 4' x 4' x 2' (HWD).
| They have a hinged lid and you fill them with stones and then
| wire the lid shut. Sounds stupidly simple, and it is but they
| have some rather useful properties. Each unit is an easy one man
| lift, place and fill. Once filled, each one nominally becomes a
| large single block with great drainage properties. You can wire
| these things together into long rows. They work very well with
| water courses because they are easy to fix in place and once
| filled, won't move. Pouring conc. into formwork is a right old
| pain in a fast flowing river and it is all too easy to lose the
| finer particulates before the stuff has gone off (set and cured).
| 
| You can finish the exposed surfaces in various ways. You can pour
| soil on top and grass them, pour a bit of low grade conc and
| gravel for a solid "path". The cages are not particularly pretty
| but neither are they particularly ugly.
| 
| If a single cell fails then it generally won't cause much
| surrounding failure and is easy to replace or repair. You can
| embed fancy anchors inside them if you have a lateral thrust to
| resist that can't be dealt with by sheer mass.
| 
| Sleepers and the like are quite convenient but you must consider
| drainage otherwise they will rot within a few decades. Block
| backed brickwork needs a decent brickie to lay them and if they
| fail it is usually rather bad. I'm no brickie but I've just
| repaired a broken 3' retaining wall at home and it looks a bit
| shit. I will be hiring a professional to sort it all out in
| spring. Here a gabion wall is overkill!
| 
| I did say home projects above but these things are used
| everywhere and that includes some pretty huge retaining
| structures. If you are not a Civil Engineer and need to build a
| decent sized retaining structure then I highly recommend that you
| consider gabions first because you are far more likely to get it
| right first time.
 
| Arainach wrote:
| This is a decent very high-level approach, but doesn't go into
| the practical applications for most people. If you're a civilian
| looking at small to moderate-sized retaining walls on your
| personal property (4 feet or less in height) rather than a civil
| engineer designing massive projects for infrastructure, your
| retaining walls are almost certainly failing due to issues with
| drainage (not enough drainage material, incorrect drainage
| material) or _possibly_ a heavy surcharge rather than the forces
| described here.
 
  | NikolaeVarius wrote:
  | Difference from an engineer. Anyone can make a thing, it takes
  | an engineer to make a thing with minimal cost.
 
    | jeffbee wrote:
    | Way I heard it as an undergrad in mechanical engineering is
    | anyone can make a bridge that stands up but only an engineer
    | can make a bridge that barely stands up.
 
      | LegitShady wrote:
      | factor of safety on a typical bridge 2.5, so not really.
 
        | adrianmonk wrote:
        | Then modify it to "only an engineer can make a bridge
        | with a safety factor of barely 2.5".
 
  | SECProto wrote:
  | > If you're a civilian looking at small to moderate-sized
  | retaining walls on your personal property (4 feet or less in
  | height) rather than a civil engineer designing massive projects
  | for infrastructure, your retaining walls are almost certainly
  | failing due to issues with drainage (not enough drainage
  | material, incorrect drainage material) or possibly a heavy
  | surcharge rather than the forces described here.
  | 
  | These exact topics are covered in paragraphs 12, 13, and 14,
  | respectively. 9:14 to 10:41 in the video
 
| 60secz wrote:
| Had to double check the logo to understand why I was reading this
| article in Grady's voice.
 
| culebron21 wrote:
| The beginning of the article sounds so modernist mid-20 century,
| I couldn't stand that.
| 
| Old roads that formed on old paths are much more stable because
| people went where the area was dry, and then dirt roads were
| stable and didn't move down or cause rain erosion. The
| generalizing phrase, that terrain is just an obstacle that should
| be plowed through, is laughable. People lived very well without
| retaining walls and without such huge excavations, until
| transport engineers decided to please cars, and not slow them
| down, or not make them go too steeply.
| 
| Same for the sentence about buildings. There are plenty places
| where slopes are taken adavtage of. In Stockholm, there are some
| houses that have +2 storeys on one side, and entrances to 3
| storeys from different sides. In my town, a mall built in 1960s
| has 2 storeys, the top one can be entered without steps at all.
| In Finland, they used sloped ground to build stadiums, and even
| to make basements with windows.
| 
| People like parks with slopes, children like to ride sleighs in
| winter on them. The most stupid thing you can do near housing is
| a flat surface and a concrete retaining wall. That generates more
| problems than benefits: the wall may float, it may create new
| concentraded areas of water running on the surface, and mini-
| waterfalls in rains. This never happens with natural slopes,
| because with grass they're very stable at 3-10 degrees, unless
| you concentrate water runoff on them.
| 
| Finally, the place becomes completely uncomfortable to stay at.
| It's pretty normal to lay down on a grass on a slope. But
| unthinkable if there's a retaining wall above you.
| 
| Unfortunately, nowadays I see the architects and clients prefer
| not to think and adapt to terrain, but just bulldoze the ground.
| 
| Otherwise, yes, there are engineering solutions to making
| retaining walls and making them stable.
 
  | creato wrote:
  | There are more people now, and more people means pushing into
  | more marginal areas. And, I'm sure people built roads that sank
  | and eroded in the past too, they just aren't around any more.
  | 
  | Personally, I care a _lot_ more about hills when I 'm riding a
  | bike or walking. When I'm driving a car, hills don't matter.
  | 
  | At the same time, building on slopes can be problematic. It
  | depends on the local geology whether it is possible to do that
  | or not.
  | 
  | FWIW, I'm a bit tired of "cranky old guy thinks everyone else
  | is an idiot" posts on HN.
 
  | mitchdoogle wrote:
  | A slope at a park is nice for the occasional sled, but slopes
  | aren't that great when you're trying to play organized sports,
  | or if you want to set up temporary structures or host events at
  | your park (kind of difficult to set up a tent at an angle).
  | Other than natural areas, such as national parks or forests,
  | these are the primary reasons I have been to parks in recent
  | years.
 
| cf100clunk wrote:
| The Proctor Compaction Test and its related procedures are
| absolutely vital to understanding retaining wall capabilities.
| The article oddly seems to miss such an essential cornerstone of
| geotechnical engineering. Does an amateur need to know about the
| Proctor when doing a low retaining wall at home? No, of course
| not. Does a website called "Practical Engineering" get to miss
| out on such a fundamental design prerequisite? Not IMHO. Great
| article and video, nonetheless.
 
  | mitchdoogle wrote:
  | Hopefully nobody is watching the video as part of their
  | training for building an actual retaining wall. It's just
  | information for the curious.
 
  | throwaway0a5e wrote:
  | For thousands of years retaining walls were successfully
  | constructed without more than a cursory understanding of soil
  | compaction and they didn't have rebar or geotextile to help
  | them.
  | 
  | Nobody needs to understand soil compaction if they're willing
  | to move and expend way more material than the bare minimum in
  | order to solve the the problem. This is true in a lot of
  | subject areas. You don't need to understand a lot of things if
  | you're willing to copy what is tried and true and can tolerate
  | some inefficiency.
  | 
  | For almost all personal and commercial projects the material is
  | going to be cheaper than paying a real engineer to poke the
  | soil with a calibrated poker and plugging the numbers into a
  | spreadsheet that has some formulas.
 
    | pixl97 wrote:
    | And for thousands of years they've either been massively over
    | engineered, hence the expense made them out of reach for most
    | people and applications.
    | 
    | Inefficiency doesnt work in packed urban environments that
    | require to fit in a budget.
 
    | [deleted]
 
  | SECProto wrote:
  | I think they are vital to _calculating_ retaining wall
  | capabilities. But not vital to understanding them. Source: have
  | spent many a day doing proctors.
 
    | cf100clunk wrote:
    | > have spent many a day doing proctors.
    | 
    | I salute you. My late father-in-law was a slide rule wrangler
    | of a pipeline engineer who often did the same. By the time I
    | got started in geotech computing support (Unix, Apollo
    | Domain, VMS) we had the numbers stuff readily available on a
    | CRT screen for guys like him.
 
  | idealmedtech wrote:
  | I think the point of this blog and YouTube channel is to make
  | these concepts approachable to the lay person, and introducing
  | lots of technical jargon (relevant though it may be to actual
  | geotechnical engineers) is not the best way to accomplish that.
 
    | cf100clunk wrote:
    | Time to rename it from "Practical Engineering" to "Popular
    | Engineering"? To me, the _Practical_ handle is significant,
    | so taking a few seconds to explain why soil compaction tests
    | are vital makes practical sense.
 
      | dsshakey wrote:
      | The practical in his videos probably refer to the fact that
      | he always explains things in physical models. It's very
      | rare to just be theory. Thus, practical engineering
      | demonstrations.
 
| irrational wrote:
| Thank goodness for the red circle in the top image. I totally
| would have missed the collapsed retaining wall otherwise.
 
| Raidion wrote:
| I think this is a great article about something that I didn't
| understand. However, as feedback, what separates this from top
| tier articles is a lack of pictures and diagrams. Just adding a
| few of those to illustrate the different types of walls would
| make this content more engaging and link it to real world
| examples. I'm not likely to google "soil nail", but I'm def open
| to spending more time on your page to check out an example.
 
  | Cerium wrote:
  | This is a transcript of a YouTube video. I'm sure there are
  | diagrams and visuals in the video.
 
    | loudmax wrote:
    | Grady's web site seems to be experiencing the HN hug of death
    | right now, but I watched the video last night on Nebula, and
    | there definitely are visuals and they definitely clarify the
    | lecture. And as usual, Grady has built a practical
    | demonstration of the forces and it also helps.
 
  | loonster wrote:
  | I thought the article was in a weird place. It read like a very
  | long introduction. If its the first in a series, its great. If
  | its a standalone article, it lacks needed depth.
 
    | frosted-flakes wrote:
    | As others have said, this is the script for a YouTube video,
    | not an article. The video is right at the top of the page.
 
| julienchastang wrote:
| A retaining wall collapsed along US 36, the turnpike between
| Boulder and Denver, here in Colorado. Poor drainage was the
| culprit [0]
| 
| [0] https://www.cpr.org/2021/08/12/us-highway-36-collapse-
| poor-d...
 
| programbreeding wrote:
| I watch a lot of Grady's videos and there's a comment I've always
| wanted to make but I don't leave comments on YouTube. I'm going
| to leave that comment here: it would be great if he spent more
| time going over the models that he builds and really showing what
| they're representing. Show it from different angles, show it in
| slow motion; really explain what's happening and what we're
| seeing. Note: I haven't watched this particular video yet.
| 
| He clearly spends a lot of time building high quality small-scale
| versions of things to show how they work, but more often than not
| he just shows those things while the voiceover isn't actually
| talking about what's being shown. Or when he is talking about the
| thing being shown, it's a very brief comment and then he moves
| on.
| 
| I love his videos, but I very often finish them and think "I
| could have learned more if he spent some more time explaining in
| detail what's happening with the model, and replaying some
| component of it several times over as he explains it in more
| detail."
 
  | ksml wrote:
  | Just want to mention that his email is on his blog, and he's
  | surprisingly responsive for having such a big following. I once
  | wrote him with some unrelated questions and he gave me a
  | detailed response, which I really appreciated!
 
  | spookthesunset wrote:
  | I completely agree. He spends so much time and energy with
  | those models only to show them for like 30 seconds.
  | 
  | He needs a second youtube channel or something where he can
  | show way more detail about these things.
  | 
  | Every time I watch his videos I'm always left feeling kind of
  | empty...
 
| pcmaffey wrote:
| Is the author's name really Grady Hillhouse? Surely that's a
| stage name?
 
  | loudmax wrote:
  | Grady Hillhouse does seem like an ironic name for a civil
  | engineer. As far as I can tell, that is indeed his real name.
  | FWIW he uses this name on his LinkedIn profile as well:
  | https://www.linkedin.com/in/gradyhillhouse
  | 
  | IMHO, Grady's YouTube channel is one of the best things on
  | YouTube. He really is fantastic.
 
    | moffkalast wrote:
    | Maybe that's why he became a civil engineer!
    | 
    | https://i.redd.it/e1u01yu0y5n11.png
 
  | naikrovek wrote:
  | Don't make fun of people's names, man. People don't usually
  | choose their own names. If you're going to make fun of someone,
  | make fun of something they choose to do, instead of the things
  | they don't choose.
  | 
  | I'm confident it's his real name.
 
    | pcmaffey wrote:
    | Is that making fun of his name? Or is it simply pointing out
    | / wondering whether he a) chose a profession aligned with his
    | given name, or b) chose a name aligned with his profession?
 
      | handrous wrote:
      | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative_determinism
      | 
      | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptronym
      | 
      | These things just happen.
 
      | llefoll wrote:
      | You've never heard of aptronyms?
 
        | yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
        | Lots of people have never heard of X for almost any value
        | of X. Even if one had, it can be surprising to encounter
        | an actual case of the thing in the wild.
 
      | irrational wrote:
      | It's like wondering about the English Professor named
      | William Shakespeare. Would he have become an English
      | Professor is named by any other name?
      | 
      | https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=188354
 
    | adamsb6 wrote:
    | Most examples of nominative determinism don't cover both
    | first and last names.
    | 
    | This is like a geologist being named Rocky Fields.
    | 
    | And if Mr. Hillhouse has even the smallest sense of humor
    | about himself I'm sure he enjoys the coincidence as well.
 
  | at_a_remove wrote:
  | I wince. As someone with a funny name, I get that a lot. "Is
  | that your stage name?" "Did you pick that out yourself?"
  | 
  | It really sucks to hear that, as well as every other oh-so-
  | original joke about my name.
 
  | gadders wrote:
  | When I saw the title, I thought that Grady Hillhouse was a
  | house that was in the news in the US that might have had a
  | retaining wall collapse recently.
 
  | panzagl wrote:
  | The Grady Hill House? Why do you want to know about that, no
  | one ever goes up there since the...incident. Say, you're not
  | from around here are ya? Well, I'd stay far away from there.
 
| mikestew wrote:
| A good, explanatory article that could _really_ use some
| diagrams, photos, or other illustrations.
| 
|  _" Both mechanically stabilized earth and soil nails are
| commonly used on roadway projects, so it's easy to spot them if
| you're a regular driver."_
| 
| That sentence would have made a lovely caption to the photo of
| the "easy-to-spot" soil nail that the article didn't include.
 
  | jasode wrote:
  | _> article that could really use some diagrams, photos, or
  | other illustrations._
  | 
  | The image at the top of the article is a clickable url to the
  | Youtube video which has the diagrams/illustrations/etc.
  | 
  | The page submitted to HN is really a pre-written script that
  | Grady reads to narrate the video. The intended content for
  | integrating visuals is really the video and not the script.
 
  | adewinter wrote:
  | It's really a transcript for the accompanying YouTube video
  | (channel of the same name as the blog)
 
| aidenn0 wrote:
| I'd be interested in seeing diagrams of things soil nails, I'm
| having trouble visualizing them from the text description.
 
| SeanFerree wrote:
| Insightful article!!
 
| northisup wrote:
| I believe these are just referred to as "walls" as they failed
| the "retaining" portion of the exam.
 
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