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Denoflare - develop, test, and deploy Cloudflare workers with Deno
 
Author : e12e
Score  : 79 points
Date   : 2021-11-07 19:45 UTC (3 hours ago)
 
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| bredren wrote:
| Deno's company was planning to release something like this,
| called Deno Deploy. (Not sure of the status of that product)
| 
| Ryan talked about it one hour in to the changelog interview
| published in June.
| 
| How is Denoflare compare / contrast with that?
| 
| [1] 1:00:00 @ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-
| changelog-software...
 
  | lucacasonato wrote:
  | Deno Deploy is in public beta right now:
  | https://deno.com/deploy
  | 
  | Denoflare is a way to run Cloudflare Workers locally, so not
  | something that directly compares to Deno Deploy, which is a
  | product used to run your code globally close to users.
 
  | jacobwg wrote:
  | Not affiliated with Deno or Denoflare, but you can try Deno
  | Deploy today! See https://deno.com/deploy/. Here's a recent
  | status update from the blog: https://deno.com/blog/deploy-
  | beta3/
  | 
  | Denoflare looks like a way to develop Cloudflare Workers
  | locally, possibly as an alternative to Cloudflare's Wrangler
  | CLI [0]. The Wrangler CLI has `wrangler dev` that serves a
  | similar purpose by actually uploading local code to Cloudflare
  | to run in the "real" Workers environment. Denoflare instead
  | emulates it locally using Deno, given that both Workers and
  | Deno provide Web Platform APIs.
  | 
  | There's also Miniflare [1], which emulates a large portion of
  | the Cloudflare Workers runtime and adjacent services like
  | Durable Objects and the Key/Value store locally. Miniflare was
  | recently promoted to an official Cloudflare Workers project
  | [2].
  | 
  | [0] https://github.com/cloudflare/wrangler
  | 
  | [1] https://miniflare.dev/
  | 
  | [2] https://twitter.com/_mrbbot/status/1441143456106094595
 
    | latchkey wrote:
    | I switched from wrangler to miniflare for my stuff. Highly
    | recommend. Super easy...                 "dev": "yarn run
    | miniflare dist/worker.js --watch --debug --disable-updater",
 
    | eli wrote:
    | I thought "wrangler dev" ran locally with node and "wrangler
    | preview" ran in the cloud?
 
      | jacobwg wrote:
      | Perhaps it used to, but today `wrangler preview` previews
      | your worker in the cloud using the "preview service", and
      | `wrangler dev` uses a private tunnel to an edge node to
      | serve local development requests [0]. Neither of them use
      | Node.
      | 
      | > wrangler dev is a command that establishes a connection
      | between localhost and an edge server that operates your
      | Worker in development. A cloudflared tunnel forwards all
      | requests to the edge server, which continuously updates as
      | your Worker code changes. This allows full access to
      | Workers KV, Durable Objects, etc. This is a great way to
      | easily test your Worker while developing.
      | 
      | [0] https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/cli-
      | wrangler/comma...
 
        | kentonv wrote:
        | That's correct, and it has always worked that way.
        | Wrangler has never used Node to run Workers. Miniflare is
        | the tool that runs locally with Node.
 
| andrew_ wrote:
| What I didn't see in the docs that would be of great interest is
| benchmarks for Deno in Cloudflare workers versus vanilla Node.
 
  | samjmck wrote:
  | Cloudflare Workers aren't running Node or Deno though, they
  | just use the V8 runtime and implement a few web APIs (this is
  | oversimplified of course but you get what I mean)
 
| z3t4 wrote:
| What do you guys use Cloudflare Workers for ?
 
  | picardo wrote:
  | I built an API proxy using a CF Worker today. The deploy takes
  | only 2 seconds. Its speed is its killer feature.
 
  | tyingq wrote:
  | It's almost perfect for a url shortener, even with custom urls
  | if paired with the kv store. Trivial, I know, but go look at
  | what some people pay for these services.
 
  | latchkey wrote:
  | I run multiple physical data centers with thousands of
  | individual machines that operate autonomously. I proxy/cache
  | API hits to the Github API so that each machine can download a
  | small binary app that runs on each of them that works to ensure
  | each machine is operating as it should.
  | 
  | It is a whole self-upgrade process that involves using Github
  | CI to do the binary build on commit (and run the unit tests, of
  | course) to produce a new version.
  | 
  | The app (running on each box) periodically queries a versions
  | file stored in git (also proxied through a worker) so they know
  | which build to download. I can segment versions of the app
  | across CIDR so that I can do channel (alpha/beta/stable) based
  | releases for testing.
  | 
  | It is a pretty epic solution since the workers only cost
  | $5/month and totally saves my bacon with just a small bit of
  | simple code.
 
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