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|u/Daemonicvs_77 - 5 hours
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|My 81-yo grandma has a relatively new kitchen (about 10-15 years), but
|she keeps the 40 year-old oven from the old one in the garage and uses
|it pretty much all the time because "they just don't make 'em like that
|anymore".
|u/shit_poster9000 - 4 hours
|
|She is right, the new ones may be leaps and bounds more energy
|efficient but there’s a very good chance they’ll have something break
|that you won’t be able to fix, while that old oven will outlive the
|heat death of the universe
|u/Abject-Difference767 - 1 hour
|
|Unless it's induction there's really little difference in gas or
|electric coil ovens today. And induction isn't going to last as
|long.
|u/ScenicAndrew - 39 minutes
|
|I mean aside from buying a shoddy cheap induction stove top, why
|would an induction not last as long? It's not like there are any
|moving parts.
|u/96cobraguy - 3 minutes
|
|Honestly… the circuit boards in all of these ranges are hot
|garbage. Bought one around 12 years ago… and went through three
|in less than 5 years before I sold the house. I luckily had the
|extended warranty because the panel was over $900. On a $1600
|range. My latest one, different brand… same thing. The panel is
|crap. I’ve had it about 5 years and I can see hints of the same
|issues. Give me hard buttons!
|u/nagellak - 25 minutes
|
|The built in induction stove in my last apartment got random
|errors and had to be manually reset all the time until finally
|one day it just didn’t turn on again and had to be replaced by
|the landlord 😅
|u/ScenicAndrew - 20 minutes
|
|See but I'm guessing that wasn't exactly an expensive unit.
|The "luxury" apartment I used to live in had the cheapest
|crap. I'm sure my <$1000 fridge will die sooner than I'd
|like, but I bet my >$2000 brand name wash tower will get
|someone from generation—now-i-know-my-abcs saying "they don't
|build them like they used to."
|u/bateKush - 12 minutes
|
|induction cooktops require way more electronics than gas (a
|pipe) or radiant electric (a very hot wire). and every piece of
|electronics has like 10 million points of failure.
|u/ScenicAndrew - 8 minutes
|
|That makes sense. Although since my current gas stove also has
|a computer in it and I have seen some inductions with just a
|power supply and an electromagnet I imagine that's more just
|due to the techy enshitification that all these stove/oven
|combos are undergoing.
|u/ministryofchampagne - 1 hour
|
|That doesn’t fit their narrative
|u/verysmartpotato - 30 minutes
|
|Longevity beats trendy features every time
|u/nagellak - 26 minutes
|
|My mom is still cooking on a gas stove from 1978. To my knowledge no
|part of it has ever broken.
|u/Abject-Difference767 - 1 hour
|
|Unless it's induction there's really little difference in gas or
|electric coil ovens today. And induction isn't going to last as
|long.
|u/TheAJGman - 1 hour
|
|She's also tuned all of her recipes to that oven for *40 fucking
|years*. If all you do is roasts, you never notice, but with *baking*
|you'll find that every oven has a different temperament. Two ovens
|might be ±20 degrees or ±10 minutes for the same recipe to achieve the
|best results.
|u/Tired_of_modz23 - 23 minutes
|
|Very much this. Even with frozen foods that have instructions I
|still have to watch it and then adjust the timer for next time.
|u/Lonely-Judgment4451 - 1 hour
|
|I can believe people are defending old ovens that can't even keep set
|temperature properly... The only reason grandma is using old oven is
|because she is old too and it's hard for old people to change.
|u/Daemonicvs_77 - 55 minutes
|
|Nah, she uses the new one too, but the old one’s here for when she
|needs to bake multiple things at once or when she needs something
|done right. For example, turkey, duck, chicken and meatloaf are
|always made in the old oven.
|u/LumpyCalligrapher288 - 4 hours
|
|Yeah ovens these days are so bad they don't even last 5 years before
|they start showing issues
|u/S0GUWE - 3 hours
|
|Because they're actual machines, built for baking. You have to
|maintain them. The old ones were just boxes with fire in them. You
|can bake in them, but they're no better than a hole in the wall.
|Your tools are only as good as you keep them. If your oven breaks
|after 5 years, you didn't take care of them properly.
|u/DoktorMerlin - 3 hours
|
|Genuine question: how would you maintain a modern oven? The only
|thing you can do is cover the fan-hole before you spray cleaner so
|that the fan doesn't blow chemicals on your food the next time you
|turn it on
|u/Diamster - 1 hour
|
|By paying half the price to call a dude to check it up or fix it
|ofc! Or maybe even buy a new one, thats also a way to maintain a
|working oven! Its so infuriating how everything that we have
|from 15 years ago is still working, yet the new things we buy
|die at best a year or two after the guarantee expires
|u/S0GUWE - 3 hours
|
|By taking it apart and cleaning the heating elements?
|u/L3dpen - 2 hours
|
|Ah yes those new-fangled "heating elements" in modern ovens.
|Constantly need repairs but I wouldn't want to bake without
|them!
|u/S0GUWE - 1 hour
|
|Literally all ovens from any time have heating elements,
|dude. It's a catch-all term.
|u/DoktorMerlin - 1 hour
|
|A heating element is just a big wire. In modern ovens
|these wires are not even accessible so they don't even get
|dirty. By taking the oven apart, you are much more
|likely to break something than by cleaning a big wire
|u/S0GUWE - 1 hour
|
|"Heating element" is just an element that heats. In a
|gas oven, it's the gas line. In a electric oven, it's a
|coil. No need to hijack a general term to mean
|something specific
|u/Ashari83 - 1 hour
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|If a heating element needs maintenance, its badly designed.
|It's literally just a big resistor.
|u/S0GUWE - 1 hour
|
|In an environment not condusive to electronics
|u/Ashari83 - 1 hour
|
|It's a heavy lump of wire, not a circuit board. 200c
|should have absolutely no impact on it.
|u/S0GUWE - 1 hour
|
|I'm not talking about the heat. The coil makes that
|itself, that's literally what it's made for. I'm
|talking about the buildup of organic materials
|u/Vlyn - 1 hour
|
|Lol. You're not even supposed to plug a modern oven in
|yourself without being an electrician, if you do it and
|something goes wrong insurance will kick your butt. Taking it
|apart? You're delusional.
|u/S0GUWE - 1 hour
|
|And you let yourself be blinded by insurance and
|manufacturer lies. Taking apart your belongings is your
|right. It has no grounds to deny insurance claims or void
|warranty. That's just the easy lie they tell you so they can
|sell expensive repairs.
|u/DBZswagger21 - 59 minutes
|
|Spoken like someone with no legal education. Everything
|you said is wrong.
|u/S0GUWE - 41 minutes
|
|No it's not.
|u/DBZswagger21 - 30 minutes
|
|It is. Insurance companies and manufacturers can
|absolutely mandate how you repair their product.
|That’s a legally protected precedent. You clearly
|don’t know what you’re talking about. You are wrong.
|They can mandate that a licensed professional be the
|one to repair it. That’s well within their rights.
|u/Raerth - 55 minutes
|
|Insurance lies? Surely when they agree to insure you,
|it's on the agreed premise that serious things like high
|voltage wiring has been installed by a certified
|professional. I'm sure you could find a company to
|insure you when stuff like this has been hacked together
|by someone who felt competent but has never passed
|certification, but the rates would be substantially
|higher. Or, you know, just go without insurance if you're
|so confident.
|u/RedditJumpedTheShart - 1 hour
|
|You have no fucking clue what you are talking about lol
|u/kowloon_crackhouse - 2 hours
|
|please explain me how to maintain the delicate and obscure
|electronic components in the bowels of me stove. All I do is turn
|it on and turn it off a few times a day. Sometimes I use the
|clock. But now the left front burner doesn't get how enough to
|boil water and some of the segments of the clock don't light up
|anymore, please explain. I don't spill, I wipe the top off after
|frying with a soft cloth and hot soapy water. I don't punch it or
|bump into it or even call it bad names. What more (or less, as
|the case may be) could I have done???? The old stove at my other
|house was older than I and it never didn't work. If the power
|came out of the wall, it got hot and cooked food just like I
|needed to do. But this device, that is less than decade old,
|stopped working for fun. WHY EXPLAIN
|u/FuckBotsHaveRights - 1 hour
|
|Is it a Samsung?
|u/S0GUWE - 2 hours
|
|How the fuck should I know why your stove stopped working? I'm
|not a stove psychic
|u/kowloon_crackhouse - 2 hours
|
|you must work for Big Oven. typical
|u/S0GUWE - 2 hours
|
|Maybe just look at your stove to see what's wrong?
|u/Equal-Bullfrog7042 - 38 minutes
|
|Dude, chill. It's just an oven you're discussing.
|u/S0GUWE - 19 minutes
|
|I'm perfectly chill
|u/LumpyCalligrapher288 - 3 hours
|
|Brother an oven is an oven all those extra fancy feature are not
|important the only important thing is the fire that cook you Don’t
|need a screen on an oven to control the heat and also I Don’t see
|how you can not take care of it since it's just a piece of metal
|with some glass are you gonna hit it with a hammer or throw it
|from the second floor?
|u/S0GUWE - 3 hours
|
|See, there is your hangup. Yeah, you don't _need_ fine controls.
|But you don't _need_ an oven at all. Just dig a hole and put
|some firewood in it, that does the same thing. Why don't you do
|that? What do you need that fancy feature of a metal box for?
|Just because something works doesn't mean there is no better
|option.
|u/LumpyCalligrapher288 - 3 hours
|
|And what is that better option though? You can't really be
|expecting me to dig a hole are you?
|u/S0GUWE - 2 hours
|
|Why not? It's the same thing you expect.
|u/LumpyCalligrapher288 - 2 hours
|
|😑
|u/S0GUWE - 2 hours
|
|Why do you dislike advancement?
|u/Nice_Sale6486 - 2 hours
|
|There it's not really that much advantage to have
|those ovens when you get used to convencional ovens.
|The only thing I like on those ovens it's that you can
|add humidity to them, but most features don't add
|shit. It's not advancement when those thing break
|easier cost more need higher maintenance can easily
|bug it's just something that fuck your time, your
|money and even your resoursefeleness.. You can call
|advancement or anything you like but I don't see
|progress with some electronics on it that have any
|pratical use and breaks easier has progress.
|u/LumpyCalligrapher288 - 2 hours
|
|You still spewing nonsense huh? I don't not like it
|what I don't like is that they make it look fancy
|while decreasing the durability to empty your pocket
|u/Lauris024 - 3 hours
|
|Correct me if I'm wrong, but new stuff breaks faster because it
|uses chips, controllers and screens, while the old machines were
|purely mechanical, like a swiss watch that will outlive any smart
|watch, not because you didn't properly do maintenance on it. That
|being said, there are some appliances, like an over, toaster or
|grill, where smart features and technology is not really
|necessary, so I can understand many preferring old stuff that just
|works instead of new one that keeps bugging out, like my air fryer
|that decided to go all digital and computerized. It's pissing me
|off, I want my old one
|u/whitejaguar - 2 hours
|
|Additionally anything mechanical can be repaired with just a
|pliers and a screw driver. Good luck with the new fancy
|machines. So much unneeded shit packed into the digital menu,
|just need the basic function.
|u/S0GUWE - 2 hours
|
|Chips, controllers and screens are significantly more durable
|than mechanics. They don't have moving parts which wear away.
|That has never and will never be a problem, especially not in
|something as simple as an oven. Those boards don't do much more
|than relay a number to the heating element, that's hard to break
|if you treat is correctly
|u/Lauris024 - 2 hours
|
|> that's hard to break if you treat is correctly Most
|commonly it's out of my power. Power supply glitching out?
|Sure hope your circuitery is protected. Power surges? The
|heating element would barely feel it, but electronics?
|Excessive heat in over and your electrical parts are
|improperly insulated from that? -3 years to longevity. Some
|weird ass sun flare making bits flip and now the heating
|element is stock on now forever till it burns out? I've seen
|it multiple times (no clue what caused it). There are simply
|way more factors that can damage electronics, but no so much
|for mechanical parts. The mechanical parts on my MTB Ebike,
|which are basically taking all the "movement stress", have
|outlived my eBike electronics by 3 times. Mechanical parts
|aren't really that fragile, unless you buy russian steel, and
|we're talking about an oven that doesn't drive around.
|u/Wassa110 - 1 hour
|
|Wow. After reading your replies, I now can confirm. You are an
|idiot. We don’t currently need, or really want such fine
|controls when simple experience, and knowledge will give you
|better food 9.9/10 times with a sturdy old oven.
|Advancements are only useful if it improves your quality of
|life. Having to replace/repair these ovens up to multiple
|times a year, constantly being paranoid if your food will come
|out fine as long as something didn’t go wrong with the
|electronics, and the money sink it could potentially be means
|it wasn’t an advancement. Not to mention the time, and effort
|that would go into saving up money, and having to order
|in/microwave your food shows how ‘advanced’ it must be.
|u/DBZswagger21 - 52 minutes
|
|I have never once “been paranoid if the food will come out
|fine”. You’re laying it on too thick. This is just nonsense.
|No one’s oven is breaking several times a year that isn’t on
|its death bed already. You’re acting like modern ovens
|never work and the electronics fail immediately. None of
|that is true. Quit over reacting.
|u/SirarieTichee_ - 1 hour
|
|I want your grandma's oven. Modern ones suck
|u/the_kid1234 - 1 hour
|
|Unfortunately they do make great ranges but they aren’t made by
|Samsung, GE or LG. You have to go to a specialty store and spend
|3x-5x what you should.
|u/Future_Green_7222 - 8 hours
|
|toasters can last 50 years
|u/MegaTron505 - 6 hours
|
|Cast iron pans can endure more and last for generations.
|u/Yaarmehearty - 2 hours
|
|Yeah, but then you turn into one of those cast iron pan people.
|u/Nervous-Ad4744 - 1 hour
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|Shit like that is legit the 21st century version religion.
|u/slinky3k - 1 hour
|
|Except your god is real and you can cook with him.
|u/Longjumping-Age131 - 50 minutes
|
|Leave us alone!
|u/OneMetalMan - 26 minutes
|
|Cast Irons are great for certain things like getting a good sear
|on red meat. I pretty much don't use it for anything else.
|u/Crypt0Nihilist - 1 hour
|
|*Dr Who writer makes a note*
|u/maappa - 5 hours
|
|Yeah!
|u/redgr812 - 8 hours
|
|the 100k has a personal chef
|u/Future_Green_7222 - 8 hours
|
|they're likely not billionaires, but upper-middle class wanting to
|pretend to be more
|u/LOL_XD_LMFAO - 2 hours
|
|Tf has a 100000$ kitchen and is upper middle?
|u/Skulldetta - 2 hours
|
|I'm pretty sure soon-to-be German chancellor Friedrich Merz is.
|He did claim that his yearly earnings of $1 million made him
|"upper middle class".
|u/Negative_Werewolf193 - 2 hours
|
|My wife and I both work full time and don't have kids. We have a
|kitchen like that. Not billionaires.
|u/MeinNameIstBaum - 2 hours
|
|The DINK dream.
|u/Negative_Werewolf193 - 2 hours
|
|It's really easy. Use birth control, show up to work. Somehow,
|a lot of people I know fail at one or both of those and then
|wonder why life is so hard. Like someone else did it to
|them...
|u/metahivemind - 1 hour
|
|How good are your defrosted pizzas tho?
|u/RigidPixel - 2 hours
|
|A kitchen like that is upper middle, not rich, yea.
|u/j_cruise - 45 minutes
|
|That's rich when it's in a Brooklyn brownstone dude
|u/GarenBushTerrorist - 50 minutes
|
|My friends house burned down and insurance covered them getting a
|whole brand new house including a new kitchen with all the works.
|Unfortunately every time I go over there the recipes are extremely
|basic but at least it looks nice.
|u/OneMetalMan - 25 minutes
|
|Considering the kitchen is like 1\4th to 1\5th the value of the
|whole house its not too far off if you bought a large house now.
|u/Powerful_Hyena8 - 2 hours
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|Lol what
|u/Automatic-Branch-446 - 3 hours
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|And the "chef" uses another way less expensive kitchen in the backroom
|u/RatInaMaze - 31 minutes
|
|$100k kitchen when building a new home is not personal chef levels of
|wealth. Not even close.
|u/Bright_Note3483 - 2 hours
|
|100k almost exclusively takeout, especially if they don’t have kids.
|Fridge and other appliances are for making smoothies
|u/icaboesmhit - 5 hours
|
|I was able to make carne asada burritos in a Japanese hotel room. As
|long as you know how to cook, you only need the basics. Everything after
|that just makes the process easier and/or faster
|u/idunno421 - 1 hour
|
|I don’t know if people understand how impressive this. Japanese hotels
|are very small. Man was out here working miracles, unacknowledged. I
|see you king!
|u/OneMetalMan - 22 minutes
|
|Seriously The just having more shelf space to keep everything
|accessible is probably the biggest challenge I have for cooking.
|u/P2029 - 1 hour
|
|Are you that TikTok guy that makes soup in the back of a toilet and
|shit?
|u/Strykah - 23 minutes
|
|What the fuck is that real?
|u/P2029 - 13 minutes
|
|Barfly7777 and yes? Maybe?
|u/DungeonsAndDradis - 1 hour
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|I once cooked a full thanksgiving dinner in a hotel room and all I
|needed was a full kitchen.
|u/Goosexi6566 - 3 hours
|
|I work in the appliance industry on high end appliances. None of the
|expensive stuff ever gets used and if they do it breaks! 40k
|refrigerators used to hold microwave meals and bottles of water. 5k
|speed ovens only used as a microwave. 10-15k ovens that are be very
|used
|u/WildRoof114 - 6 hours
|
|The $100,000 kitchen has a shelf for all the takeout menus.
|u/Such_Beautiful7308 - 3 hours
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|Nothing goes over grandmas food
|u/rabbittdoggy - 1 hour
|
|This has old man yells at clouds vibes
|u/TimePlankton3171 - 5 hours
|
|My experience: the smaller the kitchen, the more people it actually
|feeds
|u/Rexythesol - 1 hour
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|They did it for aesthetic
|u/polkacat12321 - 5 hours
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|The $100k has a $10k oven, but only uses the microwave
|u/elqrd - 2 hours
|
|Hundreds? Eeeeh nah not really right?
|u/HarithBK - 1 hour
|
|had a co-worker in a different department. handy guy. he did all the
|work when he renovated his kitchen for 40k. so that was 40k in almost
|all material costs. everything was top top of the line stuff. imported
|that, real this, name brand thing. refused to cook in it to the point he
|didn't even use the microwave in the kitchen but instead used the old
|one that he kept in the garage (along with the old fridge) that is not
|to mention all the kitchen tools he had was the same deal full set of le
|creuset, mega expensive knives, polished cast iron pans, even a freaking
|set of copper pans. all of it never being used. he only ate out or
|frozen food. all to keep the kitchen pristine.
|u/XVO668 - 1 hour
|
|Nonna's are the best
|u/nicko0409 - 1 hour
|
|Damn, that's my grandma too. Up until a few years ago, she would cook a
|3 course meal whenever I visited, and TWO desserts every time. It
|would be a few months between visits, so I would forget that she does a
|second desert. She would get me with the first desert, get me to have
|seconds, and THEN tell me I need to try the second desert that she made.
|I would always gain 2-3 pounds leaving her house. She's now gotten
|too old to be able to put in that kind of time, so I usually bring
|takeout she likes and we just chill and talk. I miss her meals, but I'm
|glad to still have her around to just talk.
|u/cutiee_pieeee - 5 hours
|
|I have a theory after i went to thailand Nepal and India. The more dirty
|the place is the better the food tastes. I dont know if thats good or
|bad tho 😅
|u/Cool_Thing3323 - 3 hours
|
|For some special kind of people its not about the usefulness, its about
|how it looks when guests come over. Same with Cars
|u/mouzonne - 1 hour
|
|So true. I work adjacent to that industry, and you do see some
|pristine looking kitchens, which will like never be used to cook
|anything. Look, but don't touch lmao.
|u/throwaway61763 - 1 hour
|
|That 50yr old kitchen will outlast generations. The most repair the
|machines will need is a good kick here and there. My grandma uses stuff
|that was made in the USSR and they still can do everything
|u/StampAct - 1 hour
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|He was never gonna be grandma
|u/Plenty-Ad-3896 - 1 hour
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|no beats grandma in his field (not even to close to granny lageacy )
|u/maybeonmars - 1 hour
|
|Nothing wrong with frozen pizza and burgers
|u/Hulett2177 - 1 hour
|
|Km. Km. I
|u/Chouginga80 - 1 hour
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|Why use an Ai generated kitchen for the old lady?
|u/aoifhasoifha - 40 minutes
|
|Is this even a meme?
|u/CandyDebby - 35 minutes
|
|I prefer the 100,000 kitchen because in that kitchen I can make videos
|and content...
|u/SortaSticky - 28 minutes
|
|Old lady is probably unfreezing pizza and burgers too.
|u/Thirty_Helens_Agree - 26 minutes
|
|Mark Bittman - spectacular cook, NYT food columnist and cookbook author
|- [in his kitchen.](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl
|/AVvXsEho2ts1knHNSWQtJsOlP4oJRPAZWMQLxNRWItkM01pAcjp1acf0diJ0XxG060Oy-kV
|QN8t4t4_Q7spQRVR16zqQdYk4ZhYg_vm5MR_ooI_fXxClSl15H0UIcjV1EUb9EVOiRvk5w6H
|sjwE/s320/BittmanKitchenbyKellyDoe.jpg)
|u/creedokid - 21 minutes
|
|A lot of chef cosplaying going on
|u/Eviscerati - 19 minutes
|
|It ain't the kitchen, its the cook.
|u/DoverBoys - 16 minutes
|
|This is my largest dream if I win the lottery. I want a ridiculous
|kitchen and a freezer full of frozen dinners. So excited to live on my
|own with a practically unused kitchen!
|u/SillyGoatGruff - 6 minutes
|
|I mean, give the rich dude 60 years of being the only one cooking for
|the family and i bet he'll make that fancy kitchen worth every penny the
|same way the grandma squeezed every ounce of usefulness out of her dumpy
|little one
|u/Dapadabada - 4 hours
|
|This reminds me of when Jack Nicholson starts punching the frozen meal
|and crying in front of strippers in Bucket List.
|u/Own_Ad2657 - 4 hours
|
|The coziness of the kitchen on the right….would add so much to the
|flavor too.
|u/Negative_Werewolf193 - 2 hours
|
|I feel personally attacked rn
|u/Happy-go-lucky-37 - 1 hour
|
|The 100k’s kitchen mostly becomes nonfunctional if their internet goes
|down.
|u/nuttydogpoo - 3 hours
|
|There’s somewhere, possibly Japan, where they don’t have/use ovens or
|hobs, they just whip out a single tabletop stove, knock up dinner and
|that’s it.
|u/Penelope_Serendip - 2 hours
|
|This is so true lol
|u/Honest-Strains - 2 hours
|
|REALITY
|
