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|u/Hellraiser1123 - 8 hours
|
|So, they're traitors for doing what their commander in chief at the time
|told them to do? Because I'm pretty sure *he* was that commander in
|chief.
|u/TheCheshireMadcat - 8 hours
|
|It made dear leader look bad, so they are traitors. He has to be the
|most thin skinned jackass out there.
|u/mylifeforthehorde - 8 hours
|
|no. this is part of project 2025 - they will use this as a pre-text
|to get rid of any one not deemed a loyalist.
|u/TheCheshireMadcat - 6 hours
|
|Wait until they realize that all the people they arrest for not
|being loyal, are needed to keep the money going.
|u/sl33pl3ssDron3 - 5 hours
|
|But wait, there’s more! Only 1% of the US public is fit for
|service. This is due to medical, legal, and mental health
|reasons. If they purge the military, they’ll lack the means to
|backfill those slots. Plus it’ll serve as a warning to others.
|If you do exactly as leadership says (legal orders), they may
|hold you accountable for their actions. Which will discourage
|others from serving.
|u/Livinum81 - 5 hours
|
|Was trump a draft dodger? Perhaps they'll be some grim irony
|of his attempting to backfill by draft (and relax medical
|entry requirements - where nothing could possibly go wrong?)
|u/sl33pl3ssDron3 - 5 hours
|
|If the federal government would legalize weed, then the
|military could look into legalizing it. Which would open the
|flood gates to service. Medical is still another barrier.
|Although they are experimenting with fat camps to help
|recruits drop weight before basic training. A draft won’t
|magically make people eligible. They also shouldn’t lower
|standards to get warm bodies.
|u/Pixilatedhighmukamuk - 2 hours
|
|I bet you Project 2025 will try to outlaw weed.
|u/Livinum81 - 5 hours
|
|I mean, they shouldn't, but it's potentially possible (?)
|in order to keep numbers up.... It's one of those things
|where it's just about the numbers as opposed to having an
|effective military with the likes of Trump, because he
|probably doesn't concepts like quality over quantity etc.
|u/Jolly_Recording_4381 - 1 hour
|
|They've done it before, that's where the hippies came
|from the initial draft excluded college kids. Said
|college kids didn't give a fuck about the war. Boom now
|you can be drafted to and all of a sudden this war is
|horrible peace and love. Then the war ends they get
|theirs make it harder for everyone behind them and
|complain when we don't cater to their old asses now. So
|yes they can and have changed the standards before and
|will again. Your only safe from the draft if your a
|rich person's kid.
|u/DolphinBall - 4 hours
|
|I mean they are sorta doing this already. When I was in MEPS
|they were talking about you could just ignore the medical
|entry requirements by just signing a wavier and if you are
|sent back home it isn't on them.
|u/I_W_M_Y - 2 hours
|
|That is what Trump's master wants, a weak US military
|u/Pseudonym0101 - 2 hours
|
|Just as Putin has always dreamed of! Weird how all of these
|radically shitty actions and plans align so incredibly well
|with a foreign adversary who wants nothing less than a
|*completely chaotic and severely weakened* US.
|u/SqueeezeBurger - 6 hours
|
|This comment, while sounding sardonic, is factually correct.
|u/bikebrooklynn - 7 hours
|
|Donald Trump played a key role in organizing the U.S. withdrawal from
|Afghanistan during his presidency. In February 2020, the Trump
|administration negotiated a peace deal with the Taliban, known as the
|Doha Agreement, which set the terms for a full U.S. military
|withdrawal by May 1, 2021.
|u/Epicurus402 - 5 hours
|
|Exactly. The media needs to shout this from the rooftops so everyone
|realizes who is at fault- Trump.
|u/ihaxr - 4 hours
|
|Can't Biden just have him executed as a war criminal?
|u/SomaforIndra - 2 hours
|
|I like how you think, but uh... no. Unfortunately we have to
|wait for Trump and his PALs to really screw up the whole country
|and make a lot of enemies before he receives his reward. Going
|after his own military and purging the military of non-loyalists
|is a great way for his whole team to get to the end of the road
|and a rope, fast.
|u/Sulissthea - 2 hours
|
|it's really too bad that kid missed
|u/DM-ME-THICC-FEMBOYS - 1 hour
|
|Honestly. I hate all the wokescolding that came to anyone
|making that 'joke' at the time. As if it was somehow any
|worse than the 'discourse' happening at the time.
|u/SomaforIndra - 1 hour
|
|well in retrospect, the threat of people feaking over that
|might have been better than horror show of destruction and
|mayhem Incel in Chief is about to unleash
|u/BlackGoldGlitter - 1 hour
|
|The media does not care about putting out facts when it comes to
|trump.
|u/chefontheloose - 39 minutes
|
|Oh the media that got him elected again?
|u/bigasswhitegirl - 1 hour
|
|>The media needs to shout this from the rooftops so everyone
|realizes who is at fault- Trump. And alas we have arrived at the
|consequences of our own actions, where the media was blowing up
|every day about whatever benign action Trump takes and calling it
|the end of the world has now dulled anyone beyond actually
|believing when something insidious is occurring.
|u/H0dari - 4 hours
|
|and the right-wingers praised him for it, for what they perceived to
|be the end to a long-standing and costly war.
|u/No-Island5970 - 1 hour
|
|He takes no responsibility for anything though he’s glad to take
|credit for all of the positives that President Biden has done then
|he’ll stomp on all that and grab all the money he can while
|weakening our country to the point of real destruction. He’s so in
|bed with Putin it’s clear as day. President Biden has got to take
|advantage of the time he has left in office and stop this shit show
|that’s about to run us over!
|u/Cheshire_Jester - 6 hours
|
|He ordered a “good withdrawal” that ends in success. They delivered a
|“bad withdrawal” that ended in failure. And I mean, he had four years
|to do it but sequenced it so the deal was brokered under his
|administration but didn’t happen till after the election…so like,
|totally not his fault because he lost that election. Also, as we
|know, according to trump, if it goes well, he gets all the credit, if
|it goes poorly, everyone else gets all the blame. It’s just good
|leadership
|u/BukkitCrab - 9 hours
|
|His transition team should probably start with the commander in chief
|who ordered the withdrawal in the first place:
|https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2022/10/13/trump-
|ordered-rapid-withdrawal-from-afghanistan-after-election-loss/
|u/RoyalEagle0408 - 8 hours
|
|Everyone seems to ignore that and blame Biden. I’m sure that’d come
|out during these sham trials.
|u/arianrhodd - 7 hours
|
|There were GOP constituents who blamed Obama for not stopping 9/11.
|🤦🏻♀️ Idiots will believe whatever they are told by Trump News.
|u/real-ocmsrzr - 6 hours
|
|Obama is also part of the Egg Cartel controlling their sale price.
|
|u/A_Concerned_Viking - 5 hours
|
|Wait you guys have eggs?
|u/hillarychronie - 5 hours
|
|I have avocado toast but no house!
|u/Privatejoker123 - 3 hours
|
|I have two eggs but they are not for sale.
|u/Bald_Nightmare - 5 hours
|
|Who would have thought when this episode aired how relevant this
|scene would be in 2024 😆
|u/Icy-Rope-021 - 2 hours
|
|RFK Jr. will take on Big Pharma. But no one has the cojones to
|take on Big Egg.
|u/raspberryharbour - 7 hours
|
|You can't deny that Obama didn't activate his standard issue
|Senator's Gundam and stop the planes
|u/mayangarters - 6 hours
|
|He wasn't in office yet. Hilary Clinton was in office, as a
|senator from New York. There's a real story about her not
|using her official government Gundam. Maybe she would have tried
|if it had been an election year.
|u/Roam_Hylia - 5 hours
|
|Better check her emails and see what was going on there...
|u/linuxelf - 3 hours
|
|As I recall she had a private Gundam that she preferred to
|use.
|u/LukesRightHandMan - 2 hours
|
|I think you’re getting her mixed up with Bill and Epstein’s
|jet.
|u/okieporvida - 6 hours
|
|I saw some blasting Obama for not fighting in Vietnam.
|u/ReluctantNerd7 - 4 hours
|
|Isoroku Yamamoto, the Japanese mastermind behind the attack on
|Pearl Harbor, Hawaii on December 7, 1941, studied at Harvard
|before the war. Barack Hussein Obama, who was allegedly born
|in Hawaii, also studied at Harvard. Where was Obama on
|December 7, 1941?
|u/okieporvida - 4 hours
|
|Asking the real questions now
|u/Icy-Rope-021 - 2 hours
|
|Yamamoto was admitted before affirmative action. Now that more
|Asians can go to Harvard since affirmative action was struck
|down, will there be another Pearl Harbor?
|u/Jani3D - 2 hours
|
|We don't know because he won't release his birth certificate!
|u/AtomicBLB - 6 hours
|
|Their base would never see/hear it. Or anything that could convince
|them otherwise. We kinda live in a hellscape given that the
|mainstream media sanewashes everything trump does and social media
|is incentavised to lie to us at every given moment for money while
|also sending kids down the hate driven algorithms of FB, Google,
|etc.
|u/kcgdot - 2 hours
|
|Mainstream media IS RIGHT WING MEDIA
|u/Egad86 - 4 hours
|
|They havent heard it for the last 4 years, not going to change
|today
|u/myterracottaarmy - 5 hours
|
|This always confused me. Every time Biden gets blamed for this I
|feel like I took crazy pills remembering that this happened during
|Trump's tenure. Gaslight successful I guess.
|u/Courwes - 2 hours
|
|It happened under Biden’s tenure. Trump is just the one who
|ordered it and set the date for it.
|u/jeetkunedont - 5 hours
|
|Yeah like there's any coming out from republicans.
|u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka - 5 hours
|
|Sham trials tend to be uhh rigged bro. The USA is rigged and it
|just got even more rigged.
|u/Major-Wishbone-3854 - 4 hours
|
|It will never be a trial. One thing all these people are consistent
|is when it comes to face a trial they all forget all stupid things
|they did or deny. Why? Because it's one thing to say things on TV or
|a rally or even make these kinds of stupid plans but once they are
|in the face of a judge if they repeat those same things said earlier
|there will be consequences. Just look at the trump trial where the
|tough rhetoric and many other things were seemingly forgotten.
|Jon Stewart made a video about exactly this. Worth checking out.
|u/thedankening - 4 hours
|
|On the one hand, Biden could have presumably altered the plan, so
|perhaps he deserves some flak for that. On the other hand...I have
|no idea how much preparation was already underway by the time Biden
|took office. Perhaps it was simply too late to change much without
|recommitting forces there for an unknown time frame? Or maybe he
|*did* alter Trump's plan and it still devolved into a shitshow
|because it was an utterly impossible situation to extricate from
|cleanly? Either way, Americans should just be glad we're finally
|done with that nonsense. Two decades and we accomplished fuck all
|that lasted.
|u/Clean_Student8612 - 8 hours
|
|If his supporters could read, they'd.... well, they'd still blame
|Biden for it, actually.
|u/Easy-Concentrate2636 - 6 hours
|
|Seriously. They see anyone saying something contrary to their
|beliefs and they just don’t absorb the information.
|u/real_picklejuice - 4 hours
|
|Scooterfart8274563 told me the same on twitter AND my aunt neener
|neener on facebook said it’s tattooed on Hunter Biden’s hog
|u/blatantmutant - 8 hours
|
|Idk facts tell me it was him but my gut blames the dems.
|
|u/creegro - 8 hours
|
|Wouldnt be surprised if they arrest "John Barron", which Is *totally
|not* Trump's alias that he's used since the 80s. Sadly they can't show
|you his face but here her eis right now on the phone, saying he's
|sorry and that no he doesn't sound just like trump...
|u/carleebre - 7 hours
|
|He named his son after the alias he used?
|u/mayy_dayy - 7 hours
|
|You sound surprised. Children are just extensions of onesself to a
|raging narcissist. See also: His new best friend with the big
|boy jump jump.
|u/carleebre - 7 hours
|
|It's not exactly surprise I'm feeling. It's moreso like... It
|makes his child seem like a joke? He named him after this name
|he used to con people and probably laughed about it afterward.
|Idk how to explain what I'm thinking. You're right though, I'd
|expect nothing less from that person. I guess all of his kids
|are pretty much useless to him unless they're doing his bidding.
|u/Im__fucked - 7 hours
|
|And Melanie went along with the name because she doesn't speak
|enough English to look into it. Or maybe she really doesn't
|care, do u?
|u/Responsible-Person - 6 hours
|
|…all that, and maybe she’s just a piece of shit like trump
|is…
|u/okieporvida - 6 hours
|
|Weren’t we told she speaks like 5 languages?
|u/Im__fucked - 6 hours
|
|That's how she got her Epstein visa, doncha know
|u/TransLunarTrekkie - 7 hours
|
|Listen, we're dealing with people that named a government
|agency after a literal meme, I honestly expect nothing less.
|u/OneofHearts - 6 hours
|
|Unless an existing law gives him the authority, a president
|cannot simply create a new agency without an act of
|Congress. Not that he’s the president, and not that he has
|any respect for the rule of law.
|u/Auntie_M123 - 4 hours
|
|He will do anything that he wants. He is immune, don't you
|know,?
|u/TransLunarTrekkie - 6 hours
|
|True, "*want to name* a government agency after a literal
|meme". They're still acting like it's already a done deal
|and have broken several laws in less than two weeks after
|the election. Which people are already saying the Dems
|should prosecute him for, but... What's the point?
|Proceedings would last beyond February for sure and even
|if they got a conviction he can either pardon himself or
|come up with some bullshit like "it was an official act
|despite me not being sworn in" to be rubber-stamped by
|SCOTUS.
|u/KrzysziekZ - 3 hours
|
|Republicans won also both chambers of Congress. But! A CEO
|can't be a secretary, so DOGE will be advisors to Trump
|probably. Or they'll just change the law for their case.
|u/peoplegrower - 6 hours
|
|You wanna hear a child’s name being a joke? Josh Duggar’s name
|came out during the Ashley Madison leak. His wife (who
|obviously stuck by her man, and still has, even since his
|prison sentence for CSAM) and he named their next daughter
|Madyson Duggar.
|u/carleebre - 6 hours
|
|Well now that makes Barron seem not so bad.
|u/RareResearch2076 - 7 hours
|
|Yes
|u/UsedToHaveThisName - 7 hours
|
|Would you expect anything else from a narcissist?
|u/loug1955 - 7 hours
|
|Too tall to be Donald's son
|u/bikebrooklynn - 7 hours
|
|That’s funny because Donald Trump played a key role in organizing the
|U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan during his presidency. In February
|2020, the Trump administration negotiated a peace deal with the
|Taliban, known as the Doha Agreement, which set the terms for a full
|U.S. military withdrawal by May 1, 2021.
|u/Necessary_Ad2005 - 6 hours
|
|So true! https://preview.redd.it/hpl9y7qpde1e1.jpeg?width=1080&format
|=pjpg&auto=webp&s=88f0794a1734f3224f86a91329df7ba85ba125c9 Him
|u/rosietherose931 - 8 hours
|
|Exactly what I was going to say. Trump is at the top of that list
|right, since he brokered the deal?
|u/bobby_hills_fruitpie - 6 hours
|
|Not only that, but as soon as he lost the election he drew down a
|mass of troops even further. By the time Biden committed with the
|withdrawal (as he should've tbh), Trump had basically set them up
|for failure intentionally. And all that aside, ~67 soldiers died in
|Afghanistan during Trump's tenure, 13 in Biden's all within the
|withdrawal. Trump could've ended it at any point and chose not to
|until he could use it as a political football like every issue that
|he had the opportunity to solve.
|u/livinginfutureworld - 7 hours
|
|He wants to blame Biden for the withdrawal he negotiated. Expect him
|to pull some similar nonsense on the way out (if he even leaves after
|his term, he probably won't)
|u/ThisLockWillKillMe - 3 hours
|
|On election night, when I said Trump is likely going to do something
|to violate term limits or change them, a whole shit load of "people"
|started saying I was a looney lib, delusional, ect. But, assuming
|they aren't Russian bots, what makes anyone think the man notorious
|for breaking our countries laws and ignoring our rules and standards
|won't violate THAT one?
|u/Cosmic-Engine - 7 hours
|
|This would be a series of show-trials meant to “prove” that what you
|just linked to isn’t true. After all, Trump couldn’t be responsible
|for it if he executed the people who were responsible for it - or at
|least, that’s what enough people will believe to make it relatively
|*equal* to factual. Which is the entire point in the first place,
|almost certainly.
|u/rodgapely - 7 hours
|
|Trump surrendered to the Taliban.
|u/imarealgoodboy - 6 hours
|
|Trump kinda is the Taliban
|u/pornographic_realism - 5 hours
|
|Dunno about Taliban I don't think he has the work ethic. Maybe
|Ayatollah.
|u/Ishidan01 - 6 hours
|
|every accusation is a projection. I know the meme is confession but
|we know that's false. The correct word is projection. Also poisoning
|any search algorithm that tries to search for Trump plus whatever
|crime it is being discussed.
|u/Fast_Vehicle_1888 - 6 hours
|
|And there is the defendants' legal defense. They were following the
|orders of the cheeto in chief. Any charges should be thrown on to him.
|u/XeneiFana - 6 hours
|
|This is still scary as shit. This is what I call a witch hunt.
|u/kiwichick286 - 2 hours
|
|A kangaroo court, if you will.
|u/Think_Chocolate_ - 7 hours
|
|>but senior officials never followed through on the plan, according to
|testimony released by the congressional January 6 committee on
|Thursday. I'm confused, did they follow the order or did they modify
|it to withdraw?
|u/spf57 - 5 hours
|
|Let’s take it back to 2017 when [he said this about
|Afghanistan](https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-
|statements/remarks-president-trump-strategy-afghanistan-south-asia/)
|*My original instinct was to pull out — and, historically, I like
|following my instincts.*
|u/Dull_Asparagus_6355 - 5 hours
|
|Thank you for saying this. I thought I was losing my mind. I could
|have sworn Trump legitimized the radical government and pulled out
|leaving the Kurds defenseless. The quick evacuation was terrible. By
|the time Biden entered office there was no turning back.
|u/Present_Belt_4922 - 5 hours
|
|This fact will never see the light of day. Suppression of facts is
|what our country voted *for* by electing Trump. This is what they
|want.
|u/Allegorist - 4 hours
|
|That's exactly why they need a scapegoat
|u/AlpacaCavalry - 2 hours
|
|If the fascist fucks could read... wait... no, they'd still repeat
|this garbage because all they know is heil orange!
|u/raistlin65 - 9 hours
|
|Yep. They got to start trials based on bullshit charges. Because they
|want to scare people who aren't cult of MAGA. Because a scared populous
|is more easily controlled, and there are fewer political dissidents.
|And of course, because the base eats it up. Makes the Trump
|administration look *strong.* Welcome to Fascism Stage 2: The Post-
|Election Party!
|u/subtle_bullshit - 8 hours
|
|An angered populous usually results in more opposition. Keeping their
|fascism going is going to rely on their ability to suppress voters and
|opposition. They’re going to be wildly unpopular at the end of this.
|My only hope is that they’re too incompetent. Which I think they are.
|u/raistlin65 - 8 hours
|
|From what I've seen in the history of authoritarianism, political
|retribution and going after people with trials like this rarely
|creates the anger you're hoping for. It is fear that dominates.
|u/FudgeRubDown - 8 hours
|
|Well maybe 80+ million people need to get off their asses and do
|something
|u/DefEddie - 8 hours
|
|Didn’t we already bet on that and lose? Time for a new plan?
|u/Theyalreadysaidno - 7 hours
|
|Plus it's been a shit show circus since 2016 here. The American
|people are burnt-out. Trump does shocking things constantly.
|Things that would have buried a political figure 15 years ago.
|Apathy is a real problem, which is so dangerous.
|u/Lizakaya - 22 minutes
|
|The Audio pussy clip would have buried literally any other
|political Candidate. And that was the tip of this shit iceberg
|u/mayy_dayy - 7 hours
|
|Hey now, I have it on good authority that fear LEADS to anger,
|anger leads to hate, and that hate leads to suffering.
|u/mitch0acan - 7 hours
|
|Well on the path to the dark side, we are
|u/raistlin65 - 6 hours
|
|Looking at Trump's cabinet, feels more like we're being
|invaded by pod people.
|u/officialrussellcrowe - 6 hours
|
|Once more the Sith shall rule the galaxy... and we shall have
|"peace"
|u/razler_zero - 6 hours
|
|I sense disturbance in the force, as if millions of voices cried
|out in "NOT THAT MANGO MUSSOLINI AGAIN! DAMNIT"
|u/cruista - 5 hours
|
|That is exactly what happened in Mao's China, according to
|professor Dikötter. Mao scared everyone and was therefore able to
|continue his reign into the Cultural Revolution, even though he
|was guilty of the Great Famine in the fifties...
|u/askiopop - 7 hours
|
|A lot of people are hoping for infighting, which isn’t off the
|table, but I don’t think that will kick them out. It’s more likely
|that they would like to keep raising the temperature of the pot to a
|stable point, but the consequences of their actions are going to
|raise the temperature much faster than they would like. I don’t know
|if the H5N1 bird flu will be anything like Covid, with many possibly
|losing health insurance, less labor regulations and lower pay
|(meaning people take multiple jobs with more stress and human
|interaction), and an antivaxer in charge of healthcare, it’s going
|to hit really hard, and stay with us for a while.
|u/lemonjello6969 - 8 hours
|
|Ha. No. Most of the population will be cowed. Look at Russia,
|Germany, Italy, China, etc. now or in the past. What was the
|example you were going to give? When it is more difficult for
|people to buy food and their jobs are on the line because of
|“association”, they will keep their mouths shut.
|u/RavensQueen502 - 8 hours
|
|Yeah. Talk of revolution is all cool online, but when it comes to
|real action... Well. Most people - including most of us - will be
|more concerned about keeping ourselves and our families fed and as
|safe as possible than being heroes.
|u/socialistRanter - 6 hours
|
|Kind of defeatist there
|u/Suspicious-Pain2725 - 7 hours
|
|How many more lives is trump’s incompetency going to cost?!?
|u/HorseLooseInHospital - 7 hours
|
|and they say, "he's your Most Competent President," thank you, you
|think Biden would get that, no, and I hate to say it but I have to
|say it, we will be doing Strong Court Martials against, and I call
|them Bad People, they say, "Sir, you probably shouldn't mention," I
|said why the hell not, why the hell, Camilla, she wanted to take
|away Airplanes, can you believe it, "Climate, Climate," ohhhhh,
|that's all they ever talked about but now you don't hear anything
|about it, that's how you know it's Fake News, thank you very much,
|and I would say that I'm your Greatest President on Climate and
|other things if you want to know the truth
|u/GPTfleshlight - 7 hours
|
|They already figured out how to fix the election.
|https://x.com/realdonaldtrump/status/884016887692234753?s=46
|u/Signguyqld49 - 7 hours
|
|Oh fuck
|u/stillatossup - 7 hours
|
|populace, y'all.
|u/inkoet - 6 hours
|
|Populace* “Populace and populous both relate to the subject of
|people within a particular area, but their uses are distinctly
|different. The term populace refers to the people who live in a
|specific place, such as the inhabitants or community of a city or
|country. On the other hand, populous is an adjective that describes
|a place that has a large population or is densely inhabited.”
|u/No-Conclusion-6172 - 8 hours
|
|Why are we here today? What happened to democracy?
|u/panickedindetroit - 8 hours
|
|trump
|u/carleebre - 7 hours
|
|It's not just trump, the republicans have been quietly working
|toward this for decades. They've literally chipped away at our
|education system to make people dumber so that eventually someone
|like trump could come along and con people into cheering for their
|own downfall.
|u/Astronomer-Secure - 6 hours
|
|and taken over the media so the uneducated access only
|specifically curated content
|u/officialrussellcrowe - 6 hours
|
|Bingo
|u/Dull_Yellow_2641 - 7 hours
|
|And right after he does this, he's going to move on to politicians
|like Liz Cheney and the Bidens and Obamas.
|u/LitOak - 5 hours
|
|I wonder if he'll go after late night comedy show hosts too?
|Typical FAscist dictator stuff we never thought we'd see happen in
|the US but you fucking morons voted for this. I like to think that
|they rigged the voting machines but that may be wishful thinking.
|u/unexpectedhalfrican - 6 hours
|
|I would love to see him try to go after the obamas lmao Barack would
|march right up to that white house and knock him tf out and Michelle
|would probably do it too.
|u/master_power - 7 hours
|
|https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-transition-team-compiling-
|list-035251121.html > Trump’s choice for secretary of defense, Fox
|News personality Pete Hegseth, has criticized the withdrawal, saying
|the U.S. lost the war and wasted billions of dollars. >In his book
|“The War on Warriors,” Hegseth wrote, “The next president of the
|United States needs to radically overhaul Pentagon senior leadership
|to make us ready to defend our nation and defeat our enemies. Lots of
|people need to be fired. The debacle in Afghanistan, of course, is the
|most glaring example.” >Hegseth calls the withdrawal a “humiliating
|retreat” and says leaders at the Pentagon were not held accountable
|for the deadly attack at Abbey Gate, which killed 13 U.S. service
|members and roughly 170 Afghan civilians. Nor were they held
|accountable for a subsequent U.S. airstrike in Kabul that officials
|thought would kill the Islamic State group leader behind the suicide
|attack but instead killed 10 innocent Afghans, including seven
|children, he wrote. >“These generals lied. They mismanaged. They
|violated their oath. They failed. They disgraced our troops, and our
|nation. They got people killed, unnecessarily,” he wrote. “And, to
|this moment, they keep their jobs. Worse, they continue to actively
|erode our military and its values — by capitulating to civilians with
|radical agendas. They are an embarrassment, with stars still on their
|shoulders.” THIS ALL PRRFECTLY EXPLAINS HEGSETH'S NOMINATION
|u/UsedToHaveThisName - 7 hours
|
|Don’t worry, the weekend warrior major that has never commanded more
|than a platoon has all the answers! Fucking idiot.
|u/Evening-Weather-4840 - 5 hours
|
|It's crazy that he will be Sec Def. The US is being destroyed by
|its enemies from within.
|u/tttxgq - 4 hours
|
|And without. Trump isn’t deciding on these nominees all by
|himself.
|u/master_power - 4 hours
|
|Hypothesizing here, and it's terrifying. I've read a lot about
|Hitler and the Nazi rise to power. I work in the federal
|Government as a civilian. I see our culture rapidly changing
|away from one of loyalty to our constitutional oaths and the
|American taxpayer. Elon has TANKED Twitter. What if that was
|a test for his "efficiency", and they plan to use what they
|learned to tank the federal government more "efficiently".
|Government collapses. Tech billionaires step in and say the
|government failed us, but they will save us. They control all
|the AI/technology at the moment. They rebuild the Government
|in their own image, to benefit themselves and fuck the rest of
|us over for their profit/power. Just hypothesizing. But...
|They want to take down the US military for a reason, right? It
|takes out a major threat to their plan. A powerful institution
|that is actually mostly non-partisan and thrives based on an
|oath to average people and the rule of law. I feel like a
|right wing loon right now for even suggesting this. Edit:
|What Putin has done in Russia is almost a pre-AI precursor to
|this. And they are suspiciously aligned with Russia. Donald,
|Elon, JD, Vivek, etc. Edit: Not comparing Trump to Hitler.
|Hitler's rise to power was unique. What is happening now is
|unique. I mainly made that comparison because so many people I
|know ignore my concerns... "Oh hit me back up in a year when
|we've lost our rights". YO HE'S SLOWLY ERODING WHAT PROTECTS
|OUR RIGHTS RIGHT FUCKING NOW. If we wait until human rights
|are disappearing it's too late.
|u/tttxgq - 4 hours
|
|It seems pretty likely that they want to privatize the
|military. Spin up private armies and fund them with taxpayer
|money. Defund the regular army and basically slowly take
|over all the power. Standard libertarian approach:
|corporations get all the revenue, the state absorbs all the
|losses. Elon’s goal in buying twitter was to buy the
|election for trump, which he has successfully managed. The
|fact that it’s now a shit platform is irrelevant, the job is
|done. The people who gave him the 44bn for the purchase, got
|what they wanted.
|u/Animeniackinda1 - 8 hours
|
|If/when this blows up in their faces, its gonna be fucking ugly.
|u/navjot94 - 7 hours
|
|I feel like the military people involved with this wouldn’t be okay
|with these frivolous cases.
|u/tttxgq - 5 hours
|
|Let’s see how much power they have and whether they’re motivated
|to fix the problem. Recent events show a majority of people only
|caring when they’re directly personally affected.
|u/Affectionate_Pipe545 - 5 hours
|
|Yeah, maybe I'm too optimistic but I feel like you don't fuck with
|the military like this. They generally don't like being brought into
|politics
|u/Animeniackinda1 - 4 hours
|
|....or being threatened by politicians
|u/Nomadastronaut - 7 hours
|
|We Are Fucked! Full stop.
|u/bikebrooklynn - 7 hours
|
|That’s funny because Donald Trump played a key role in organizing the
|U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan during his presidency. In February
|2020, the Trump administration negotiated a peace deal with the
|Taliban, known as the Doha Agreement, which set the terms for a full
|U.S. military withdrawal by May 1, 2021.
|u/Nufonewhodis4 - 8 hours
|
|Be a great way to purge the brass of any non-loyalists
|u/raistlin65 - 8 hours
|
|Also a great way to convince the top brass that they need to throw
|in with Biden. If Biden were to take some extraordinary action in
|the next couple of months. It's really good if Trump to keep
|showing all the cards he wants to play in the first 6 months of his
|presidency.
|u/pontiacfirebird92 - 8 hours
|
|Biden won't do shit. He needs to but he won't.
|u/raistlin65 - 7 hours
|
|We don't know what he'll do. We don't even know if it's really
|possible for him to do anything. Because it would require a lot
|of support from within his administration. And from within the
|military. We also don't know the calculated fallout from any
|action he might take. For instance, it might create a lot of
|instability.
|u/Nervous_Ad_5733 - 8 hours
|
|Feed them bodies.
|u/R3AL1Z3 - 6 hours
|
|Not to mention, IT WAS FUCKING TRUMP WHO DID IT
|u/raistlin65 - 6 hours
|
|Yep. Trump is a master con artist! I just wish I didn't have to
|have so much understanding of why that's true.
|u/Funky247 - 7 hours
|
|Populace*
|u/gwdope - 8 hours
|
|Jesus fucking Christ, Trump made the deal with the Taliban and ordered
|the fucking withdrawal.
|u/unexpectedhalfrican - 6 hours
|
|That's what got me. I was arguing with my coworker who is a liberal
|but said he couldn't vote for Biden or Harris because of how poorly
|they handled the withdrawal and I'm like you daft dingleberry, they
|had no choice but to do a rush job because this was the timeline Trump
|agreed to and they couldn't have their administration, and by
|extension America, be seen as going back on our word. I hate that this
|country's future and all of our collective futures constantly rests in
|the hands of the average uninformed voter. I mean fuck, just do the
|bare minimum research on the topics you care about. fuck!
|u/_Kramerica_ - 8 hours
|
|I really have no fucking clue how so many Americans were so fucking dumb
|to vote for this moron. He literally was the one in charge of this
|withdrawal and then they blamed Democrats and are now trying to
|prosecute the commanders for the orders *he gave*? I am truly offended
|at how dumb 70 million people in this country are. Eat shit you
|dumbfucks.
|u/fsociety091786 - 7 hours
|
|Because 25% of the country thinks a guy who went bankrupt running a
|casino can magically rewind prices to 2019. I lost out on Kamala’s
|first-time homeowner assistance because the illiterate shitheads of
|this country have time to binge Netflix but can’t be bothered to
|research the positions of the people running to be the most powerful
|individual in the world.
|u/dampishslinky55 - 3 hours
|
|Bankrupted a casino, twice.
|u/nounotme - 42 minutes
|
|I think there's a big misunderstanding here. He never ran an
|unprofitable casino. He ran a very successful money laundering
|scheme for Russian oligarchs.
|u/Corvidsforhire - 1 hour
|
|My parents desperately want grandkids, and seeing how one of my
|siblings is ace, and the other is gay, I am the only one who could
|possibly provide them biological grandkids. Here's the thing though:
|1. I haven't been able to find steady work since 2016 2. The money
|just isn't spending like it used to. I make over twice what I did in
|2015, and it goes half as far. 3. I'm homeless. Living in a (very
|nice) tent, have a busted up school bus that I'm hoping to make my
|home. They don't like this, but this is the best I can figure saving
|enough quickly to buy land and building a life I actually want. 4.
|I'm disabled. But not enough for assistance, like that would be
|enough anyway. 5. I'm in my 30s. I'd likely need extra medical care
|for any pregnancy at this point. 6. My husband and I desperately
|want to be parents, but we know this would never work with the way
|things are right now. We're pretty torn up about it. Wanna take a
|wild guess who they voted for? If you guessed the orange asshole
|that would make all those things harder for me and my siblings AND
|themselves as a self-employed artist and a school teacher, you'd be
|correct! You wanna know the best part? The main reason both of them
|gave for voting for him was "Kamala is a rude bitch". My husband's
|parents are remarkably similar, but with the added bonus of neither
|of them working and subsisting on social security, and attempting to
|get disability checks in a massively red state, and having a high
|risk pregnancy already in progress by way of my sister in-law.
|Trump supporters, at least in my life, have such a lack of
|understanding of what will directly affect them and those they claim
|to love, it's pathetic. And they are positively giddy he won.
|u/Ok_Blackberry_284 - 7 hours
|
|They're not dumb. They're racist, sexist, homophobic/transphobic. They
|know he's awful but he'll hurt people they hate. They don't give AF if
|the country burns to the ground so long as they can inflict misery and
|pain on the hated "others".
|u/sex-help74 - 7 hours
|
|Idk, that sounds pretty dumb to me!
|u/trippy_grapes - 1 hour
|
|And weird!
|u/Cool-Presentation538 - 29 minutes
|
|Exactly
|u/snax4sax - 5 hours
|
|I would say it’s even worse. These people legitimately think trump
|stands for them and is going to make their lives better…that’s the
|sad part. While they are racist and victims to the laziest
|propaganda ever seen, they are actually stupid enough to think yeah,
|he’s only going to deport and deal with “illegals” the way they
|want. He would NEVVERR actually hurt “Americans”…what a joke..we’re
|in for a wild ride and these people are in for such a rude awakening
|
|u/Darkforce2020 - 5 hours
|
|You're right. Claiming ignorance is a weak excuse. They know exactly
|what they're doing.
|u/ExJW-VeganAF - 3 hours
|
|That’s like when they like to blame mass shootings on mental
|health instead of hatred
|u/ForensicAyot - 5 hours
|
|Honestly I respect the racist, sexist, homophobic ones because at
|least they voted based on policy rather than a vague sense that
|things were better when he was president.
|u/kndyone - 5 hours
|
|hes not trying to prosecute them hes trying to purge them of anyone
|who might stop him from taking control of the country.
|u/JJ_Mark - 5 hours
|
|They're going to play off people's ignorance of how the withdrawal was
|done. Saw a lot of criticisms from the right trying to claim that
|pulling out in only a few days was somehow the wrong way to go about
|it. We were lucky we got who we got out with only the one bombing
|(which still resulted in 180 or so deaths). Imagine the deaths if we
|had announced it ahead of time and gave them time to prepare.
|u/Assortedwrenches89 - 9 hours
|
|So...the people Trump put in charge of the pull out...
|u/errie_tholluxe - 9 hours
|
|After cutting a deal with the Taliban.
|u/BinjinNinja - 8 hours
|
|A Shitty Deal with a no win solution!
|u/st_rdt - 8 hours
|
|The Art Of The (Shitty) Deal.
|u/annuidhir - 8 hours
|
|The Art of the I'm a Huge Moron That Shouldn't Be Trusted with a
|Pencil, Let Alone the Presidency of the Most Powerful Country on
|the Planet!!! Seriously, wtf? This is their guy??
|u/Frankie_T9000 - 8 hours
|
|Was a win for the taliban
|u/errie_tholluxe - 8 hours
|
|Well there certainly was a win for him though. Enable him to
|demonize the person who came after him, after sticking him with
|it.
|u/GPTfleshlight - 7 hours
|
|And excluding the president of Afghanistan in the talks
|u/errie_tholluxe - 7 hours
|
|I had forgotten that part. Thanks for including It
|u/unexpectedhalfrican - 6 hours
|
|whom he invited to Camp David, a celebrated and historic location.
|u/DunkinEgg - 8 hours
|
|I wish Trump’s dad had pulled out.
|u/bikebrooklynn - 7 hours
|
|Donald Trump played a key role in organizing the U.S. withdrawal from
|Afghanistan during his presidency. In February 2020, the Trump
|administration negotiated a peace deal with the Taliban, known as the
|Doha Agreement, which set the terms for a full U.S. military
|withdrawal by May 1, 2021.
|u/BootsyTheWallaby - 8 hours
|
|Srsly, a government yet to be sworn in, already talking about bringing
|questionable charges of treason, is a government preparing for death
|camps. This is no joke.
|u/I_was_saying_b00urns - 6 hours
|
|It honestly scares me how little is happening from those currently in
|power. I feel like the existing government will just politely hand
|over the reigns and comply with the end of democracy because they are
|playing by rules that only seem to apply to them. And it won’t save
|them.
|u/AynRandMarxist - 6 hours
|
|No it won't and our leadership is failing us. Biden is sleep walking
|us into fascism. His speech was like a sick joke. We are leaderless.
|Wtf are we doing. Trump could nod his head and have all these dudes
|killed with seal team six lmao So many people do not realize what
|is happening and what we are asking for. We will look back and
|realize how fucking stupid we were for sitting there and doing
|nothing all so we could have our told-ya-so moment and let the old
|guard of the DNC get away with leaving us behind after fucking us
|again. Our leadership didn't just fail us. They are failing us.
|Kamala's speech was delusional. It's like she was speaking directly
|to Trump "Hey I did this even when you didn't so you especially have
|to be a good boy" Trump will throw her in a camp because she handed
|it over peacefully. You just made Trump look bad. Nobody makes Trump
|look bad. That's why he's going after Biden here. Trump is the
|anti-war president. How can that be true if Biden literally ended
|the war that Trump couldn't? Well here's the answer. What the fuck
|are we doing are any of us blind? All so what because we're scared
|conservatives might call us hypocrites? Biden and Harris will fail
|us. We have the keys to the military. We WILL regret handing them
|back. The constitution is a piece of paper that cannot protect us if
|the people in power don't care. Once Trump has a feel that the
|dictatorship is realized it will be like a flip of a switch and we
|will feel so fucking dumb. The constitution was never why our
|democracy stood the test of time. It was because America had not yet
|failed to elect leaders in charge of safeguarding our society that
|wanted to live in a democracy themselves because they had intrinsic
|value for democratic principles. We are about to fail. It will be so
|much harder to get it back.
|u/I_was_saying_b00urns - 6 hours
|
|This is such a good summary. I’m watching from another country
|and honestly it’s like watching a car crash in slow motion. And it
|scares me because so much of the rest of the world’s democracies
|are built the same way and could fail the same way - our own right
|wing parties are definitely taking notes.
|u/Mr_Goonman - 5 hours
|
|Cool. What is it you think Biden should do?
|u/rta3425 - 3 hours
|
|Do something? Brother, we voted for this. What, exactly, do you
|think Biden should be doing? Surely you aren't suggesting they
|overturn the will of the people?
|u/roraverse - 5 hours
|
|That's very well put. I as an individual honestly have no idea
|what to do as an American citizen.... What are those of us who can
|see it supposed to do ? Honestly looking for ideas...
|u/TrueRedPhoenix - 3 hours
|
|I'm looking for ideas too, I feel lost and terrified.
|u/Soatch - 5 hours
|
|If I was going to hand over power I would half ass it. Let them
|spend 6 months to a year trying to figure out processes so they
|can’t use that time to fuck citizens over.
|u/Emmady - 5 hours
|
|> a government preparing for death camps Part of Project 2025
|includes classifying transgender individuals as sex offenders; part of
|Project 2025 also includes putting sex offenders to death. I'm
|terrified that this will come to fruition and the media either won't
|report on it at all, or people will hear "sex offender sentenced to
|death" and not think twice about what is happening. It wouldn't even
|require death camps: people would simply be arrested by state police,
|given some farce of a trial and executed by the state. Wouldn't even
|be the first time the US has put someone to death on contentious
|grounds before.
|u/vyprrgirl - 9 hours
|
|Treason for what? For doing their job to the best of their ability
|despite the idiot carrot negotiating with terrorists for a timeline that
|didn’t allow for a well-organized withdrawal? All so he could blame the
|incoming winner of the 2020 election for a bad withdrawal because he
|lost the election?
|u/WulfwoodsSins - 9 hours
|
|That's the thing, you see. His plan was so big, beautiful, and
|brilliant, they HAD to have committed treason in order for it to fail
|and make him look bad! /heavy, heavy s
|u/joshtalife - 8 hours
|
|His plan went exactly how he wanted it to, unfortunately.
|u/Ishidan01 - 6 hours
|
|where's the sarcasm, that's exactly the mindset of every shit
|manager everywhere. Demand the impossible and say it must be
|incompetency, nay malfeasance on the part of everybody else when it
|doesn't go right.
|u/Drake_the_troll - 6 hours
|
|My retail worker memories are screaming
|u/astreeter2 - 8 hours
|
|I suspect the goal is to charge Biden and his senior military advisors
|with treason. The military court martials (with guaranteed guilty
|verdicts because officers who won't go along will be replaced) will be
|used as "evidence" against them.
|u/vyprrgirl - 8 hours
|
|Biden now has immunity, so they can try. I wish Biden would use the
|immunity to toss the idiot carrot into Leavenworth, but he has too
|many ethics for that
|u/astreeter2 - 7 hours
|
|He has immunity only if the Supreme Court agrees he was committing
|"official acts". Their ruling didn't actually give the president
|blanket immunity. Instead they set themselves up as the ultimate
|deciders on when the president gets immunity or does not. They
|definitely would not give Biden immunity for jailing Trump. They
|might agree that Biden had immunity for following Trump's
|Afghanistan withdrawal agreement, but I wouldn't be surprised if
|the 6 conservatives found a way to say Biden wasn't immune just to
|make Trump happy.
|u/vyprrgirl - 7 hours
|
|I figured it would be such a situation, but I still held some
|hope like a fool
|u/AynRandMarxist - 6 hours
|
|>Biden now has immunity, so they can try. Why is everyone
|pretending like laws are going to apply
|u/JimboD84 - 9 hours
|
|Negotiated at camp david if i remember
|u/vyprrgirl - 9 hours
|
|That makes it even worse than a phone call
|u/panickedindetroit - 7 hours
|
|At least the Taliban stiffed him of almost 250,000 bucks when they
|didn't pay for their stay at his shitty hotel.
|u/vyprrgirl - 7 hours
|
|They took a page out of his playbook? If the Taliban weren’t so
|terrible, I’d laugh my ass off
|u/ghostofWaldo - 7 hours
|
|Mf brought terrorists to hallowed ground and they wanna call him
|some kind of american hero. Shameful
|u/Yeetstation4 - 5 hours
|
|He's killed more Americans than Bin Laden could dream of.
|u/errie_tholluxe - 9 hours
|
|Following orders of course. You can't have the guy at the top being
|responsible now. Can you?
|u/vyprrgirl - 9 hours
|
|Same guy who fomented an insurrection and then said he wasn’t to
|blame for it? Nah Honestly, I was sick and tired of him within two
|minutes of him going down that insipid escalator in 2016. I was
|never going to vote for him, but had he not been heinous from the
|get-go, I might have given him the benefit of the doubt that he
|could have been an ok president
|u/TKG_Actual - 8 hours
|
|[Idiot carrot?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaFjLZvRNFU)
|u/vyprrgirl - 8 hours
|
|Lol! I’ve never seen that before. But, hey, if the shoe fits…
|u/TKG_Actual - 8 hours
|
|It really does, Salvatore comes up with some crazy but spot on
|stuff.
|u/Free_Pace_2098 - 4 hours
|
|It's the "I Know You Are But What Am I" section of the constitution
|u/o0flatCircle0o - 8 hours
|
|Fake pretexts to replace military leadership with Nazis
|u/Nythoren - 9 hours
|
|Declaring war against the military seems like a bold plan
|u/MauditAmericain - 8 hours
|
|It’s perfectly logical actually. Trump needs the military under his
|thumb for what’s about to come. He needs loyalists and sycophants that
|are willing to open fire on fellow Americans without hesitation.
|That’s it.
|u/Sanguisugent - 6 hours
|
|Exactly, the whole reason for the "warrior panel" as well
|u/Travelingman9229 - 9 hours
|
|
|u/Severe_Avocado2953 - 6 hours
|
|Exchanging military personnel with people loyal to you is the first
|step in every dictatorship.
|u/Amneiger - 5 hours
|
|Isn't Trump or someone else in his team proposing cutting VA benefits
|as well? I'm sure that will endear him to all of America's retired
|vets.
|u/Soft_Walrus_3605 - 1 hour
|
|He doesn't care about retired vets, they're of no use to a dictator.
|If history is a guide he's going to be recruiting Gen-Z degenerates
|into an SS-style paramilitary.
|u/kndyone - 5 hours
|
|His plan is to purge the leadership so that he doesnt need to declare
|war on them. Doing it fast at the start will put him in the power
|position.
|u/No-Conclusion-6172 - 8 hours
|
|Welcome, everyone, to the United States of Russia meets 1930s Germany.
|u/ohnofluffy - 9 hours
|
|Being sincere: What is going on? Why is Afghanistan suddenly in play?
|u/BukkitCrab - 9 hours
|
|Just another weak attempt by Trump and his supporters to give dear
|leader justification to ignore the Constitution and prosecute anyone
|who isn't loyal to him.
|u/Squibbles01 - 7 hours
|
|It's not about Afghanistan. It's about creating a culture of fear in
|the military so they stay in line with whatever Trump wants them to
|do.
|u/kndyone - 5 hours
|
|its worse than that he is probably looking to get rid of anyone not
|absolutely loyal to him in top command.
|u/LaurenMille - 4 hours
|
|Because trump has severe mental issues and this is his latest pet
|peeve. His team is happy to push it forward because it'll solidify
|their 1-party rule over the nation by exterminating
|"""""traitors""""".
|u/Consistent-Can9409 - 8 hours
|
|This is what the next 4 years will be like.... witch hunts to distract
|people from the fact they are destroying the country !!!
|u/Pattihere - 8 hours
|
| MAGA's aren't going to believe it was Trump. It will always be the
|Democrat's fault. Over the years since the first time Trump was in
|office, the MAGA's are "conditioned" to believe him.
|u/jd3marco - 8 hours
|
|We might get a coup next year, after all. The military might hit them
|with the ol’ uno reverse and declare themselves in power to avoid this
|shit.
|u/MindlessRip5915 - 7 hours
|
|At this point, and I am firmly against military seizing control of
|democratic governments, that might be the best possible outcome for
|America.
|u/LordAnorakGaming - 5 hours
|
|Would it really be a coup when the oaths they take when becoming
|officers in the US Military is to uphold the constitution against
|all enemies foreign and **domestic**. The MAGA cult is a domestic
|enemy to the US. As such it would be them acting to counter the coup
|that MAGA is trying to pull off.
|u/MindlessRip5915 - 4 hours
|
|I agree. Which is something that, really, I don’t think any of us
|thought we’d say about the fucking *United States of America* in
|our lifetime.
|u/Missmoneysterling - 7 hours
|
|A military coup is all that will save this country since intelligence
|won't step in.
|u/Lobo2ffs - 3 hours
|
|Intelligence agencies or intelligence of voters?
|u/Missmoneysterling - 2 hours
|
|Agencies
|u/inagartendevito - 8 hours
|
|So this group is going to deport a few million people, cut whole
|branches of government completely and the rest in half, vet the military
|brass for loyalty, court martial people who met Trump’s deadline for the
|Afghanistan withdrawal and still have time to stop two wars on two
|different continents? Sure they are.
|u/MindlessRip5915 - 6 hours
|
|By “stop” the wars, they mean accelerate them by pulling support for
|Ukraine and arming Israel to the teeth. Trump wants Palestine and
|Ukraine reduced to rubble. Then he’ll be free to build Trump
|International Hotel in Kyiv and Trump Resort in Gaza. It’s about
|Trump. Nothing else matters, especially not the suckers and losers
|he’ll burn to get what he wants (and that includes his voters).
|u/Soatch - 5 hours
|
|Exactly. I don’t doubt they want to do all that stuff but wanting to
|do something and making it happen are two entirely different things.
|Plus there are all the unforeseen problems that will happen over the
|next 4 years that will require attention.
|u/kndyone - 5 hours
|
|people keep saying that but here we are, hes back in power, he has
|the supreme court he has congress..... hes now making moves to
|control the military
|u/kndyone - 5 hours
|
|The thing is all the other stuff will be smoke screens they dont care
|if it gets done or not but the things they really want will be getting
|done. Like Trump will be replacing top command with loyal generals.
|u/Rufustb - 8 hours
|
|Trump negotiated and set the withdrawal date....
|u/h20poIo - 8 hours
|
|Wow snd Trump doesn’t want any of his cabinet picks to bet vetted by FBI
|or go through confirmation hearings, I wonder why.
|u/Maximum-Purchase-135 - 8 hours
|
|The goal is to rid us of qualified upper brass, install unqualified boot
|lickers and finally put the Putin offensive plan into effect
|u/BigNorseWolf - 8 hours
|
|Start with the commander in chief who set the timeline?
|u/kingdazy - 9 hours
|
|can Biden preemptively give them pardons?
|u/chaos0xomega - 8 hours
|
|Accepting a pardon is legally an acknowledgement of guilt, i imagine
|many of them would refuse.
|u/wwabc - 8 hours
|
|not anymore, thanks to a Trump pardon
|https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/ex-soldiers-acceptance-
|trump-pardon-didnt-constitute-confession-guilt-court-2021-09-23/
|u/AmberBee19 - 8 hours
|
|if that is the case, I really hope President Biden makes it a
|priority to accomplish as much as he can before his term is up to
|combat that guy's vindictive plan. That includes giving preemptive
|pardons to those involved in the withdrawal, anyone else Trump and
|his dingbats are after and most importantly his son Hunter.
|u/invisibletruth4 - 7 hours
|
|Might need to throw on Fauci's way as well the way Rand Paul been
|talking/tweeting
|u/Mateorabi - 7 hours
|
|Could Biden sign the paperwork now and give it to them, and they
|just not accept it unless necessary?
|u/MindlessRip5915 - 6 hours
|
|As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, that’s not necessary.
|Accepting a pardon is not an admission of guilt (otherwise
|accepting a pardon would open a person to *civil* liability, which
|a President cannot negate without an act of Congress). It’s also
|why Trump could pardon *himself* while still insisting he did
|nothing wrong.
|u/CadenVanV - 7 hours
|
|It doesn’t matter. As others have said, pardons are an acknowledgment
|of guilt. Treason is also the sole crime defined in the constitution
|and it’s basically impossible to convict for
|u/TuskM - 8 hours
|
|Okay. If true, I'm calling it. We're toast, no matter how things get
|resolved.
|u/Forsworn91 - 8 hours
|
|Given how the withdrawal started under trump, this seems like trying to
|tie up lose ends
|u/-Drink-Drank-Drunk- - 8 hours
|
|The most appropriate misspelling I’ve ever seen.
|u/wwabc - 8 hours
|
|Trump hates the military. Thinks they are 'suckers and losers'.
|u/NecroCorey - 8 hours
|
|Can anyone cross-post this to the military sub? I'm apparently not
|allowed to.
|u/championgecko - 5 hours
|
|They've been quarantined since the election
|u/severe_thunderstorm - 8 hours
|
|He wants to instill his own generals, and discredit any general who
|might stand up to him or get in his way when he starts rounding people
|up.
|u/subcow - 7 hours
|
|Reminder: Trump BRAGGED about making it impossible for Biden to stay in
|Afghanistan. Trump had removed so many troops and so much equipment by
|the time Biden was given the reigns, that American troops were too few
|to be able to do anything to defend themselves as the Taliban advanced.
|(Also, Trump hosted the Taliban at Camp David) Here is video of Trump
|bragging about it at a rally. [https://x.com/theNuzzy/status/142705103
|9404957697](https://x.com/theNuzzy/status/1427051039404957697)
|u/AlrightScrwutoo - 7 hours
|
|How dare you use non-alternative facts. That treasonous.
|u/Jellybean-Jellybean - 8 hours
|
|Shouldn't he have himself arrested then since it was planed under his
|administration?
|u/hillaryatemybaby - 8 hours
|
|The maximum penalty for treason is death. They want to kill American
|soldiers on display to scare us into submission
|u/TrainerJohnRuns - 8 hours
|
|Trumps team negotiated that entire thing with the Taliban; if they do
|trials, do it. Show how trumps first term organized the withdrawal.
|u/Consistent-Can9409 - 8 hours
|
|Oh... and to the MAGAs.... who released the bomber that killed the 13
|???
|u/lokey_convo - 8 hours
|
|If no one has taken the hint yet, it's time to.
|u/Bundyman303 - 8 hours
|
|Sounds like the "we support the military for his followers" while they
|cut off the financial support for veterans in background to pin anger on
|Biden, robbing them while blaming Biden for everything kind of trick.
|u/Jenova66 - 8 hours
|
|There’s a long history of presidential systems ending because this kind
|of shit happens and the military then has to step in to “protect
|democracy.”
|u/Ok-Egg-4856 - 7 hours
|
|This is the definition of weird. Officers following legally
|administered orders cannot possibly be engaging in treasonous acts. It
|will be interesting to see how this plays out and who will support such
|a bogus accusation.
|u/blac_sheep90 - 7 hours
|
|So...Trump himself... The 13 soldiers that died are on him.
|u/Wwwweeeeeeee - 6 hours
|
|This is Bannon and stone, literally trying to goad liberals into a civil
|war. I'm not even kidding. They're just pulling shit out of their
|asses to try to get people riled up. Bannon wants blood in the
|streets. It's his lifelong fantasy.
|u/Oceanbreeze871 - 8 hours
|
|If Trump wants to get “impeached” by the military he should go ahead and
|f@ck around with them.
|u/kevint1964 - 7 hours
|
|Funny, it was Trumpolini that originally set the whole thing in motion.
|u/GimmeNewAccount - 7 hours
|
|I never understood why other countries have military coups. Now I
|understand.
|u/stitch-is-dope - 8 hours
|
|Can the electoral college at least please do us a favor and have a spine
|u/Bigfoot_Cain - 8 hours
|
|This is literally the only reason the electoral college exists: in
|case the general population loses their minds and votes in someone
|grossly improper. If EVER there was a time for them to step up and do
|their ONE job, it is now.
|u/Sassy_Weatherwax - 8 hours
|
|Well, it's the only VALID reason it exists. It also exists because
|of racism.
|u/stitch-is-dope - 8 hours
|
|100% agree but the republican electors will probably still refuse to
|come to their own senses.
|u/vyprrgirl - 8 hours
|
|Maybe if they do the smart thing and declare for Harris, the
|government will finally get rid of the electoral college?
|u/MindlessRip5915 - 7 hours
|
|Most states have laws against faithless electors. I believe it’s
|48 out of 50. Since the states are empowered by the constitution
|to decide how electors are elected, if they say an elector is
|invalid, they’re invalid.
|u/Ishidan01 - 6 hours
|
|and the irony is we wrote those laws because we were expecting
|faithless electors FOR Trump.
|u/Ok_Blackberry_284 - 7 hours
|
|Lol, fuck no that is not why the electoral college exists. The
|electoral college exists because the founding fathers wanted to keep
|the slave owners happy.
|u/_Kramerica_ - 8 hours
|
|Literally no branch of our government has even remotely taken a stance
|against the corruption, law breaking, or any other insane thing that’s
|happened. They sure as shit won’t do anything now. Tear. It. All.
|Down. It broke.
|u/Zealousideal-Yak-824 - 7 hours
|
|Wait the fuck a minute? Didn't Trump start the Afghan withdrawal? He
|personally released the Taliban who are now leading the Taliban. If we
|stayed we would have started another war with the Taliban. Their
|withdrawal was literally a arbitrary date Trump team promised without
|telling anybody and left a few weeks for the government to even do
|anything. Why did you think we didn't take any of the gear out of there
|or even warn our troops it was gonna happen?
|u/MindlessRip5915 - 6 hours
|
|I believe he refused to brief Biden’s transition team about it too.
|u/AdhesivenessUnfair13 - 7 hours
|
|If I was their JAG, I'd just outline that the withdrawal was agreed to
|and signed off on by the Trump administration before the transition of
|power when Biden took over. If anyone should be held to account for the
|deaths of those service members, it's Trump and his administration.
|u/pvtteemo - 8 hours
|
|Treason almost never gets used or convicted. What a god damn media op
|clown show embarrassing people whos served eons more honorably in the
|armed forces than the orangegruppenfuhrer
|u/buddhahat - 7 hours
|
|Biden should just pardon them all pre-emptively
|u/Bag_of_Meat13 - 7 hours
|
|It'll never start. Lots gonna happen between now and January. Trump
|will either be dead or he isn't going to be President.
|u/devilmaykri98 - 6 hours
|
|One can only hope, but I've got a feeling you're right. There's no way
|in hell I could possibly see this plan going well for him at all.
|u/pj7140 - 5 hours
|
|I am thinking the same thing. Trump will continue with this shit up
|to a point where somebody will have finally just blow a gasket...and
|maybe not miss by a mere 1/2 in. I don't know, something is going
|to happen
|u/das_zwerg - 7 hours
|
|Ah yes, the best move for a would-be autocrat is to piss off the
|military. That's never gone badly.
|u/BustedToothWren - 7 hours
|
|I have to chuckle that this would be a surprise to anyone. They
|said they were going to do this shit. First start with something that
|they might just get away with, charging fucking American officers, that
|have served this country their entire lives, with treason. They
|probably will get away with this. With a compliant congress, they might
|just get away with this first step. Then, once that barrier is down and
|it becomes normalized (as trump supporters cheer) they go after
|political opponents. Then, Americans themselves that are not registered
|with the republican party. They said they would do this. THEY FUCKING
|SAID IT! And....pikachu face....the media is shocked.
|u/KeneticKups - 4 hours
|
|Because the media supports it
|u/Fena-Ashilde - 6 hours
|
|Trump should start with the traitor who bargained for the release of
|5,000 Taliban.
|u/Ope_82 - 6 hours
|
|TRUMP IS THE ONE WHO NEGOTIATED WITH TERRORISTS. Trump is the one who
|pulled out all our troops, leaving everyone behind.
|u/RealCrusader - 7 hours
|
|Didn't trump invite them to camp David to start this shit?
|u/cava_light7 - 7 hours
|
|HE! Dumpity Trumpity negotiated the deal with the damned Taliban! He’s
|so friggen demented he probably doesn’t remember how HE set that deal
|up. What a disgrace.
|u/bikebrooklynn - 7 hours
|
|That’s funny because Donald Trump played a key role in organizing the
|U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan during his presidency. In February
|2020, the Trump administration negotiated a peace deal with the Taliban,
|known as the Doha Agreement, which set the terms for a full U.S.
|military withdrawal by May 1, 2021.
|u/vid_icarus - 6 hours
|
|I’d imagine the military’s top brass are scrambling right now to
|president proof the chain of command for the commander in chief. Things
|are going to get incredibly dark. Our only hope is that trumps lackeys
|are too vain, stupid, and incompetent to actually get anything done.
|That’s leaving an awful lot to chance.
|u/mdhunter99 - 6 hours
|
|Wasn’t the withdrawal his plan?
|u/ShackoShells - 6 hours
|
|Please write to these 3 senators: Susan Collins:
|https://www.collins.senate.gov/contact/email-senator-collins Lisa
|Murkowski: https://www.murkowski.senate.gov/contact/email and Joe
|Manchin: https://www.manchin.senate.gov/contact-joe/email-joe !!!
|These 3 are critical for this to get through!!! Also write to your
|local senators: https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm
|Here is a template you can use: Confirm 47 Federal Judges Now Dear
|Senator: Please prioritize the immediate confirmation of 47 Federal
|Judges. Protect our democracy against Trump’s threats—this is your
|legacy. Put aside party lines and act now for our families and nation.
|Thank you.
|u/Top_Shoe_9562 - 5 hours
|
|LMFAO. He made the deal, Biden honored that deal, now they are
|treasonous? Fuck this timeline.
|u/FlawedHotDog - 8 hours
|
|Sooo he’s trying to be Hitler and Stalin. Bold.
|u/AlrightScrwutoo - 7 hours
|
|He sets the withdrawal date for Biden to eat it (knowing he was lying
|about losing the election), then prematurely, without the generals being
|told in advance, he brings down the troop levels down to the
|unsustainable level of 2,500 solders in December 2020, negotiated the
|release of 5,000 Taliban fighters no questions asked, invites the
|Taliban to Camp David and it is the military officers were treasonous.
|Only in Trump Bizzaro World, where his cult believes all of his lies and
|has mass memory loss enough to put him back into office because gas
|costs $0.11 more in November 2024 than in 2018 (remind me who was
|President then) when gas priced at $2.81/gal Don’t even start with the
|date BS. Trump still blames Obama for his failures 9 years later and
|counting.
|u/ButcherofBlaziken - 6 hours
|
|Why couldn’t he have just been shot?
|u/Senior_Atmosphere303 - 6 hours
|
|If he's gonna court martial anyone, he needs only to look in the mirror,
|that withdrawal was in him. He negotiated without coordinating with our
|allies, or the Afghan government.
|u/mojoyote - 6 hours
|
|They were complying with a timeframe for withdrawal that was set by
|Trump himself.
|u/Lazuruslex - 6 hours
|
|IT WAS HIS FUCKING FAULT!!!
|u/canadoughbuddy - 6 hours
|
|Trump gave Afghanistan to the taliban in exchange for nothing. Putin w
|u/Entire-Can662 - 6 hours
|
|When he was the one who planned the withdrawal then blame it on Biden.
|What a POS
|u/TwozFlix - 6 hours
|
|And he complained about a "witch hunt" but is doing the same thing just
|1000 times worse.
|u/Barmat - 6 hours
|
|Yes please destroy the morale of the Army. “Said in a thick Russian
|accent “
|u/drfsupercenter - 6 hours
|
|So the "we want to end weaponization of the justice system" people want
|to weaponize the justice system? Yeah, that tracks.
|u/TheKiltedYaksman71 - 6 hours
|
|The Afghanistan withdrawal that Trump's administration negotiated? That
|one?
|u/oht7 - 5 hours
|
|I guess it’s official. Cutting VA funds, giving soldiers a death
|sentence… Trump hates the troops.
|u/nyjewels10001 - 5 hours
|
|This is what happens when America votes for an enemy list vs a to do
|list.
|u/Snipe6ib - 7 hours
|
|They should put the guys who agreed to release 5,000 Taliban prisoners
|on the list.
|u/RavensQueen502 - 8 hours
|
|Deep State, CIA, Illuminati, Space Lizards, whoever, please do your job.
|u/Blade78633 - 8 hours
|
|I wonder if he will explore trading Puerto Rico for Greenland again.
|u/Particular_Ticket_20 - 7 hours
|
|Besides some vague promises about tax cuts has anyone over there said
|anything they're going to do that's positive? I'm hearing a lot of
|punishing, locking up, deporting, retribution, now court martials,
|layoffs, suffering, and so on.
|u/MindlessRip5915 - 6 hours
|
|No, they had nothing positive in their campaign to start with. It was
|all hate, division, vengeance, and rage. Which is why anyone who voted
|for him is an irredeemable, hateful, abominable piece of shit. Or a
|moron who refused to listen to anything he said.
|u/SiriusGD - 7 hours
|
|But yet nothing was ever done about retired General Mike Flynn's
|involvement with the Russians.
|u/AtreiyaN7 - 7 hours
|
|Treason? If anyone ever gets charged with treason, it should be Trump,
|the Trump cultists involved in the January 6th insurrection, and all of
|Trump's enablers and flunkies—just as a general list of treason weasels.
|If Trump triggers a military coup with this BS, he can go right ahead
|and suffer the consequences of his actions for once.
|u/Revolutionary_Cup500 - 6 hours
|
|The Afghan withdrawal was a legal process that was put into play by
|George W Bush. For ducks sake. And how MAGA constantly praises Turno
|for no new wars and Biden pulled us out of the war. Turnp made side
|deals with the GD Taliban and cut OUT THE AFGHAN government. In other
|words, Trump literally made a SIDE DEAL with terrorists. Terrorists who
|have been murdering not only their own people and using women and
|children as human shields but injured and killed how many US soldiers
|and now these pieces of sh*t want to PUNISH military officers for
|following commands that WERE LEGAL. And want to turn our military
|against it's own citizens, which is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and will hurt
|morale in the military,weakening us more. And the Gravy Seals can't step
|in and take over in the military. Their little cosplaying on the weekend
|is no match for our actual military
|u/ArtSimpson18 - 8 hours
|
|Lmao what would I do if I were a narcissist about to be charged with
|treason?
|u/DontTickleTheDriver1 - 7 hours
|
|This seems serious
|u/Renriak - 7 hours
|
|As always, the republican party proves themselves to be the party of
|punishment.
|u/jonahsocal - 6 hours
|
|Lies, he said. Tell them lies! The bigger? The better. Sooner or
|later something is bound to stick. -Adolph Hitler to Joseoh Goebbels,
|his propaganda minister.
|u/Drinon - 6 hours
|
|Treason, for following through with an agreed withdrawal by Trump with
|the Taliban that released 5,000 terrorist prisoners that took part in
|the ambush.
|u/BAYKON8R - 6 hours
|
|So, Trump makes a deal with the Taliban, then after he leaves the
|presidency that deal still follows through. Which was the withdrawal.
|Now he is punishing people for following his past deal? How fucking
|dumb are people...
|u/Rusti-dent - 6 hours
|
|Wasn’t the whole issue of the rapid withdrawal caused by a Trump policy
|and orders?!
|u/Theo1352 - 45 minutes
|
|Trump is the one that negotiated the withdrawal - is he going to be
|brought up on charges? The fucking balls on these people is unlike
|anything I've ever seen, and I'm old. They lie with impunity, this is
|simply not the behavior of normal people (I know, I know, they aren't).
|They can't manage a simple declarative sentence without it being utter
|bullshit. The rank stupidity of so many people that keep putting morons
|in office is absolutely astounding election after election.
|u/weed_blazepot - 8 hours
|
|The Afghanistan withdrawal that Trump's administration set the timeline
|for?
|u/ForeignSurround7769 - 8 hours
|
|These lists are an intimidation tactic. Do not obey in advance. They’ve
|been doing this shit since 2016.
|https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/09/politics/omarosa-list-donald-
|trump/index.html
|u/Frarara - 8 hours
|
|So, donold should be on the list as he's the one who ordered it. Right?
|I'm sure mainstream media will pick up on the headline of a lifetime
|"treasonous trump" /s for those who need it
|u/bigeazzie - 8 hours
|
|So who’s gonna convict military personnel for following his withdrawal
|plan?
|u/Extreme-Carrot6893 - 7 hours
|
|How about charge the people who got us into Afghanistan in the first
|place based on lies.
|u/Outrageous_Let_9917 - 7 hours
|
|What…..
|u/HeadStarboard - 7 hours
|
|Good start on destroying the military.
|u/Thorpgilman - 7 hours
|
|Let's start with the guy who stole, concealed, hid, and lied about
|stealing classified documents.
|u/loug1955 - 7 hours
|
|Including his negotiations with the Taliban when he was Commander in
|Chief?
|u/BTFlik - 7 hours
|
|I hope he burns so bright he burns his own team and they turn on each
|other. That would be so great.
|u/JahnConnah - 6 hours
|
|And we were worried about Biden's cognitive decline...
|u/socalryan - 6 hours
|
|It’s like they don’t know what treason even means. Ignore the people who
|tried to overthrow the government, let’s focus on the people who just
|botched a military plan.
|u/Mean_Git_ - 6 hours
|
|Has a president ever been hung for treason? I’m guessing there is a
|civil war coming in that third world theocracy. Having said that, the
|democrats will probably just lie down and take whatever shite the rapist
|throws, they seem to be completely ineffective. So maybe no civil war,
|just a slow tawdry slide into Gilead while the Dems say “stop, or I’ll
|say stop again”.
|u/SqueeezeBurger - 6 hours
|
|Hey, NBC, the time for serious face and red siren emojis was 5+ years
|ago. I'm too busy making sure my family knows how to deal with what's
|coming. We don't have time now. You ain't got time, neither. The
|Orange one will decree a shutdown of your channel in 69(nice, 🤮) days.
|u/Elpaniq - 6 hours
|
|Honestly there are so many things that are seriously alarming that i
|just dont believe it anymore and i wont until i see it
|u/the_cunt_muncher - 5 hours
|
|If anyone should've been tried for treason it was Trump and all the
|fucking Jan 6ers
|u/sentient_coffeetable - 5 hours
|
|Yeah; I can’t even deal with this crap. Lord in heaven I hope they
|know what they voted for
|u/Itsamodmodmodwhirld - 5 hours
|
|You want to see a coup lead by the military? Go ahead and try this.
|u/Slowly_We_Rot_ - 5 hours
|
|Concentration camps are coming
|u/kndyone - 5 hours
|
|Hes looking to get rid of anyone not loyal to him, man its crazy how
|fast democracy is dying, this guy isnt even trying to be subtle about
|it. Trump knows the military is the one wild card that could depose him
|when he gets out of hand so hes looking for some excuse to get rid of a
|bunch of people he knows will back America and not him. Please people
|wake up and see whats happening.
|u/anon285421 - 5 hours
|
|Senior military officer here: people are fearing for their lives. As a
|reminder, treason a capital crime, punishable by death under the UCMJ.
|Punishing the military for failed policy is going to have devastating
|consequences on the military.
|u/notmyfirstrodeo2 - 5 hours
|
|They just want to start throwing political opposition in Jail like The
|Kreml, so these fascist can stay in power forever.
|u/chellybeanery - 5 hours
|
|This actual treasonous piece of shit dares to accuse others of made-up
|treason????
|u/kimjonesnieu - 5 hours
|
|His whole second term is going to be a revenge vendetta. More chaos than
|his first term.
|u/Gabewalker0 - 5 hours
|
|Whos admin signed the Doha Accord with a May 1st 2021 withdrawal date,
|released 5000 Taliban POWs and leadership, and did not include the most
|significant member of the Afghan government? Hmmm. The Taliban had 75%
|of Afghanistan at the time of the full withdrawal. What the F do you
|think would happen? Trump set up Biden, who actually pushed the deadline
|as far as he could.
|u/crakinshot - 4 hours
|
|Shit like this (bogus charges) is generally how you clear out the
|military of officers you know would push back against illegal orders.
|u/otherwise_data - 4 hours
|
|courtmartialed for what? following orders? 🤔
|u/Brent_L - 3 hours
|
|So he’s court martialing the commanders that followed his orders? Got it
|u/MNisNotNice - 7 hours
|
|Fucking traitors talking about treason you can’t make this shit up.
|There’s a reason why we have the second amendment. Should the nation be
|taken by a tyrannical power the people bear the rights to arms to fight
|back against tyranny.
|u/dday3000 - 8 hours
|
|The military voted for him. Actions meet consequences.
|u/Several-Distance-335 - 8 hours
|
|It's time for these officers contact the team
|u/tomdurkin - 8 hours
|
|Maybe they should start with surrender to the Taliban. Trump, Mike
|Pompous, and Khalilizad’s surrender was in Sept 2019.
|u/babynursebb - 8 hours
|
|Source article: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-
|transition-team-compiling-list-current-former-us-military-office-
|rcna180489
|u/Comprehensive-Cry591 - 7 hours
|
|Wasn’t Trump the one who promised to get us out
|u/geneticeffects - 7 hours
|
|FAFO Trumpers 😂
|u/Ok-Bar601 - 7 hours
|
|Fuckin morons. If the Commander in Chief gives the order you follow
|orders.
|u/strywever - 7 hours
|
|JFC. Weren’t they just keeping the commitments Trump made on behalf of
|the US?
|u/JTD177 - 7 hours
|
|Time for Biden to start writing pardons for crimes they didn’t commit
|u/NorwegianCowboy - 7 hours
|
|It was his botched withdrawal!
|u/jmf0828 - 6 hours
|
|Gonna be wild to see how they twist following the orders of the
|Commander in Chief to treason.
|u/bickynoles - 6 hours
|
|Actually he doesn’t start his presidency until he is sworn in so it’s
|not any days into it yet
|u/campfire_eventide - 6 hours
|
|He's not even formally the president-elect until the EC meets in
|December.
|u/HanjiZoe03 - 6 hours
|
|I hope this blows up on their faces, just finding any stupid reason to
|piss off the military more and more. What's especially interesting is
|that the rotten orange sag was the one who started that process in the
|first place. These men literally followed his orders. What an evil
|jackass.
|u/BitterFuture - 6 hours
|
|Huh. He doesn't know he can't just order the jury in a court-martial
|to convict, does he?
|u/SuspiciousImpact2197 - 6 hours
|
|Fucking Biden needs to be signing pardons every minute from now until he
|gets in the train back to Delaware
|u/Mr_Figgins - 5 hours
|
|Well it was done as an Official Act so technically that excuses them.
|u/Hopontopofus - 5 hours
|
|Hang on a sec, wasn't it Trump who ordered that withdrawal, abandoning
|many Afghani allies in the process, and then invited the Taliban to Camp
|David?
|u/muffledvoice - 5 hours
|
|Good idea, Trump. Piss off the top brass and the military won't accept
|you as their commander-in-chief. That's the day you find out that the
|military only really follows presidential orders because they want to
|and feel duty-bound, not because they have to.
|u/DancesWithDave - 5 hours
|
|Republicans will applaud this. Fucking Nazis
|u/nopunchespulled - 5 hours
|
|Correct me if Im wrong but didnt he set the date we had to leave during
|his first term?
|u/Obvious_Nipples - 5 hours
|
|...it was his own plan. Fat ass should start working on those concepts
|of a plan instead.
|u/ntkwwwm - 5 hours
|
|Shits going to be so much worse than we could possibly imagine.
|u/Egad86 - 5 hours
|
|The withdrawal that Trump kicked off?
|u/Audax2021 - 4 hours
|
|How much would it take for American generals to see Trump as a clear and
|present danger and stage a military coup?
|u/The_Fish_Head - 4 hours
|
|If trump fuckheads literally can't see this bogus bullshit when he was
|LITERALLY THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF then there's literally no fucking way
|to pull their heads out of the sand and they're fucking lost
|u/Free_Pace_2098 - 4 hours
|
|East Berlin says hey
|u/ScoopTheOranges - 4 hours
|
|I’ll bet a lot of those officers voted for him. America continues to get
|what it voted for.
|u/Zealousideal-Row7755 - 4 hours
|
|They need to let him run with it because until we give him enough rope,
|he can’t hang himself. I was bothered by them cutting the mics at the
|debates because it forced him to restrain himself…people need to see
|what a true wack-a-doo he is.
|u/Woodshadow - 3 hours
|
|what is insane is that it is very clearly politically motivated. If you
|supported him he isn't going after you but anyone in the Biden
|administration is fair game. This man is psychotic
|u/ZoomZoom_Driver - 3 hours
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|He negotiated with terrorists for it!
|u/OCDDAVID777 - 3 hours
|
|None of this will ever happen because if it did, it would come to light
|that Trump hamstrung Biden by withdrawing troops from Afghanistan to
|2,500 before he left office, making any plan to leave impossible. What
|Biden and the U.S. military were able to accomplish was nothing short of
|a miracle.
|u/ElectedByGivenASword - 3 hours
|
|you mean the Afghanistan withdrawal that was Trump's plan?
|u/snaithbert - 3 hours
|
|As always, the Trump game plan is to flood the zone with tons of
|bullshit to the point where no one knows what’s real anymore.
|u/shino4242 - 3 hours
|
|MF stole documents, kept them in his personal property, did an attempted
|coup, and said all that "enemy within" shit, and has a sus relationship
|with Putin. And HE'S going to attempt to get rid of people for
|"treason"?
|u/Hyakugojoichi - 2 hours
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|Didn’t… didn’t he order the withdrawal?
|u/Vernknight50 - 1 hour
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|He's the one who made the deal! Maybe he should put himself on trial.
|u/funnyfacemcgee - 1 hour
|
|However awful anyone thinks this is going to be it'll be much worse than
|any of us can imagine. We're all fucked and should start deleting our
|reddit accounts as if that'll make much difference.
|u/GitmoGrrl1 - 1 hour
|
|We're going to see the Fat Man pushing the limits. But here, Draft
|Dodger Doni is bluffing. A court martial means an investigation which
|will reveal Trump's complicity and deviousness. And military officers
|won't hesitate to protect their own while exposing Draft Dodger Doni.
|That's Donald Trump's signature on the Doha Surrender. And now that he's
|screwed Mike Pompeo, I have no doubt that Pomeo will give Trump all the
|credit for the surrender to the Taliban.
|u/wilshire_prime - 28 minutes
|
|Trump invited the Taliban to Camp David. Please, just fucking end this
|timeline.
|u/Clughless1 - 23 minutes
|
|Insurrectionist says whaaaaa????
|u/Necessary-Hat-128 - 19 minutes
|
|Will the JD and Congress really go along with the BS? Are they really
|that spineless?
|u/tom-branch - 16 minutes
|
|Would that be the withdrawal plan Trump set up? are they going to court
|marshal the commander in chief?
|u/DillBagner - 13 minutes
|
|I'm guessing they're not going to be looking at the person who made the
|deal with the Taliban to release their fighters who did this, though.
|u/Dkaiser1919 - 6 hours
|
|At this point I truly hope for the military to take him out, I’m not
|even kidding
|u/Donkey_Bugs - 5 hours
|
|Since the Afghanistan withdrawal mess was ultimately trump's fault,
|perhaps he is the one that should be charged with treason.
|u/e4evie - 8 hours
|
|It’s a Biden total pardon party!!! Honestly these chuds going after
|these people might actually put something serious in motion…
|u/Soithascometothistoo - 7 hours
|
|Wellp, guess it's time to use those guns to overthrow a tyrannical
|government soon. That's like 3 things now I have begun to agree with
|Republicans on. I feel so dirty.
|u/Reasonable_Ad8991 - 7 hours
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|Public tribunals. Just as they've said for years.
|u/Gabe330 - 7 hours
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|If he really is doing that, it’s all kinds of wrong.
|u/poncho51 - 7 hours
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|This is getting worse by the day. Joe needs to use the Presidential
|immunity.
|u/Unhappy_Trade7988 - 7 hours
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|Night of the long knives is HERE!
|u/1000000xThis - 7 hours
|
|I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY TRUMP HASN'T FIXED EGGS YET!
|u/bardotheconsumer - 7 hours
|
|In the end, all the fasc really want is a kangaroo court to punish
|whoever they're scapegoating today. Same as it ever was.
|u/ImExhaust3d - 6 hours
|
|They were serving on orders from their Commander-In-Chief. But to be
|fair? Biden should pardon all of them and make it they can not be
|charged with a crime related to it. But this is a Democrat and they
|usually roll over and show their belly so you will scratch it b
|u/Any_Shopping1633 - 6 hours
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|This is good. Trump's making enemies in our military's top brass.
|u/Crush-N-It - 6 hours
|
|WTF is wrong with these people??? Who do they plan on charging and for
|what?
|u/Malarkay79 - 6 hours
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|Treason? Really?
|u/Protect-Their-Smiles - 6 hours
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|Let me guess, these officers just happen to be the ones not fiercely
|loyal to MAGA...
|u/Petroldactyl34 - 6 hours
|
|Eli5 how's there even possible treason here?
|u/rmscomm - 6 hours
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|I have a feeling some of us are going to learn a new word, JUNTA.
|u/Grenuille - 6 hours
|
|Stop telling us problems. Tell us when u are actively working on a
|solution.
|u/Academic_Release5134 - 5 hours
|
|Iam sure this will help with Army recruitment.
|u/Highland_Bitch60 - 5 hours
|
|And so the pogrom begins.
|u/OverlyOptimisticNerd - 5 hours
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|Trump is planning this and sacking the joint chiefs. So, will they take
|it on the chin like Democrats, or are we about to have a military coup?
|u/serennow - 4 hours
|
|Then the person who made the deal should also be charged right….?
|u/Soulpatch7 - 4 hours
|
|Lot of dems i know been scooping bulk doge *and* hitting the range with
|the firearms we’re wealthy enough to own in spades and smart enough not
|to advertise. It’s a nice hedge to compliment our complete control of
|the financial and intellectual infrastructure of the country. Bring it
|motherfuckers.
|u/ExplosiveDiarrhetic - 4 hours
|
|Hope those protest voters and non voters are happy. This is exactly what
|they wanted
|u/OzyDave - 4 hours
|
|But trying to disenfranchise 80 million voters in 2020 was just fine?
|u/Mala_Practice - 4 hours
|
|Absolutely, they should start the treason charges with the idiot who
|ordered the release of 5000 Taliban fighters, back to the battlefield.
|u/Enriching_the_Beer - 4 hours
|
|My dad says the DOJ investigation of Gaetz is corrupt. The investigation
|started with Trumps AG Bill Barr.
|u/NarfledGarthak - 4 hours
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|If true…I’ll wait and see because much like everything he does with
|suing people he just says he will, never does, and then everyone thinks
|he did and won…it would be a huge indication he knows he’s responsible
|for ordering the exit and just wants the history books to read hat
|someone else was guilty of his fuck up
|u/WillistheWillow - 4 hours
|
|Us non-US citizens of the US should probably stop worrying about the
|coming trade wars. It doesn't look like they'll be much left to trade
|with before long.
|u/tunebucket - 4 hours
|
|So is he on the list? He signed the deal 🤣🤣🤣🤦♂️
|u/DJW1981 - 4 hours
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|Can we bring charges up on the person who cut a deal with the taliban?
|u/your_fathers_beard - 4 hours
|
|Remember how trump bragged about enacting a rapid withdrawal from
|Afghanistan? Then bragged how he did it and Biden couldn't stop it, even
|though he wanted to?
|u/ravishingrickrude_ - 4 hours
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|They probably voted for him
|u/wrongm3 - 4 hours
|
|two theories: its a bs ploy meant to get the rubes excited over it,
|all while nothing comes of it. its legit but is just going end up
|wasting everyones time and money, but the rubes will still get excited
|over it.
|u/LitOak - 4 hours
|
|I've been waiting for this to start. Honestly, if I lived in the US I'd
|just keep my head down at this point and focus on myself and my family's
|best way forward. There's nothing else you can do until it gets bad
|enough for mass action and that's going to take years, likely more than
|4 as you voted out democracy.
|u/sythingtackle - 4 hours
|
|Remember in May 2019 when the “commander in chief” pressurised the
|Afghan govt into releasing 5000, battle hardened, Taliban fighters, then
|sent Mike Pompeo to outline his plans for withdrawal from Afghanistan
|but only after inviting the Taliban to Camp David on what would have
|been the anniversary of 9/11 2019, this invite was withdrawn due to the
|cic being told it would be bad for optics so they used the death of 3
|soldiers as an excuse for the invite being refused.
|u/spearfis - 4 hours
|
|Exhausted already
|u/aagloworks - 3 hours
|
|Does the transition team even know the definition of treason? From
|google: Treason, *noun* - the crime of betraying one's country,
|especially by attempting to kill or overthrow the sovereign or
|government.
|u/RymeEM - 3 hours
|
|So January 6th. Yet he wasn't even charged with treason when he should
|have been.
|u/aagloworks - 2 hours
|
|Yep. This baffels me more than anything really.
|u/The_Story_Builder - 3 hours
|
|Those soldiers did not make the decision. Politicians did. This is an
|excuse to clean house, and keep high ranking loyal officers in charge.
|It is a first step in taking control of the Army.
|u/SteelBandicoot - 3 hours
|
|What does this accomplish? The officers were under orders to withdraw.
|How is this treasonous? Genuine question because I don’t understand
|why the GOP government would do this.
|u/Witty_Ticket_4101 - 3 hours
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|It's wild how easily they shift blame when the fallout hits.
|u/Easy_Account_1850 - 2 hours
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|didn't he negotiate the withdrawal
|u/mnlion33 - 2 hours
|
|Ok a few questions. 1) Should we expect another 9/11? 2) Which allie
|nation will be attacked first since we will no longer be able to respond
|to their aid. 3) Which country will be first to occupy us? China or
|Russia?
|u/batt3ryac1d1 - 1 hour
|
|Bro he's the one that told them to withdraw.
|u/Flash8E8 - 1 hour
|
|The Afghanistan withdrawal which, from what I hear, was set in motion by
|him before he left office and left Biden to deal with?
|u/PhatAiryCoque - 1 hour
|
|This is how I'd purge the military chain of command prior to installing
|only the most loyal officers - if I was a fascist about to do some very,
|very bad things, that is. I'd also cut the number of federal personnel
|- which includes the military - keeping only the most loyal. I'd even
|go so far as to install loyal cronies as the heads of the nation's
|justice department and intelligence apparatus too, while I'm at it. And
|then I'd manufacture an existential crisis so I could just get rid of
|people I didn't like, and I might even signal a withdrawal from NATO.
|But that's just me, if I intended to forsaken democracy for
|authoritarianism...
|u/MichaelBayShortStory - 1 hour
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|It was HIS PLAN!!!
|u/ShortRound89 - 1 hour
|
|Trump found Hitlers "to do" list in some archive it seems.
|u/BlackGoldGlitter - 1 hour
|
|So which officers will be charged for causing the deaths of 64 service
|members who were also under the trump admin? They care about the 13
|lives lost (because of trump), never about the 64 tho.
|u/ConkerPrime - 1 hour
|
|Non-voters: “Yes, this is the reason I stayed home. All hell Trump!”
|u/pikleboiy - 1 hour
|
|Trump is transitioning? Good for her!
|u/Timely-Guest-7095 - 53 minutes
|
|So he wants to charge the soldiers for following his idiotic orders?
|What an incompetent, cowardly fuck!. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
|u/WolfgangDS - 50 minutes
|
|Then he should have HIMSELF strung up! HE'S the one who started the
|withdrawal! Biden just finished it!
|u/BLUMPTASTIC - 49 minutes
|
|Does this have anything to do with the fact that the same General who
|was the commander of the 82nd Airborne in charge of the Afghanistan
|retrograde was just appointed commander of US Army Europe and Africa
|command? GEN Donahue is one of the most capable and well respected
|leaders in the military today and is going to be the Army’s principle
|commander for countering Russian aggression so I guess daddy Putin told
|his little piss boy to get rid of him?
|u/Thick_Anteater5266 - 47 minutes
|
|So the TRAITOR is going to charge innocent Americans with treason for a
|problem that was his doing. I don't know if America will survive the
|next 4 years.
|u/delightfullydelight - 40 minutes
|
|He set up the god damn thing! Traitorous fuck.
|u/P0pu1arBr0ws3r - 33 minutes
|
|So he's putting himself on that list right?
|u/NRMusicProject - 30 minutes
|
|Trump charging others with treason. That's fucking rich.
|u/bowsmountainer - 30 minutes
|
|Trump: under me there won’t be any wars Also Trump: if you help to end
|a war, you’re going to be court-martialed
|u/Lydkraft - 29 minutes
|
|Keep in mind Orange Fck face and Pompeo cut the worst deal in US history
|with a terror group. And this allowed 5000 of the worst of the worst
|back on the streets of Afghanistan.
|u/surfkaboom - 27 minutes
|
|Nearly 40 service members died in Afghanistan during Trump's presidency,
|but let's not talk about those
|u/Bawbawian - 9 minutes
|
|hopefully Democrats will finally learn. never ever ever ever ever
|take responsibility for a Republican disaster.
|u/vanhaanen - 6 hours
|
|Civil War II - Electric Bugaloo. Take all the MAGAs down
|u/JoshDx3 - 5 hours
|
|Full speculation but highly feel like they’ll be prosecuting Biden and
|this is one of the first steps.
|u/6644668 - 5 hours
|
|It's going to be a fun 2025. If you don't think your life would be
|better in Russia or Iran, you better change how you approach life and
|ethics or get put of the country. For those who are staying, buckle up
|and enjoy your future.
|u/wheelsmatsjall - 5 hours
|
|The US needs to get out of the Middle East and let them destroy each
|other.
|u/Successful-Cry-3800 - 7 hours
|
|I keep saying this, every liberal needs to have a machine gun. bullies
|only respond to force. Democrats were too weak to put Trump in his
|place, they had four years and they did nothing. now we need to be able
|to protect ourselves.
|u/JackHoff13 - 2 hours
|
|A “machine gun” are you fucking 12!! lol
|u/akakdkjdsjajjsh - 24 minutes
|
|Why? I thought repubs loved AR-15s?? I'm sure you could easily
|convert one to full auto with some online instructions.
|u/SpooningMyGoose - 3 hours
|
|Imagine being this terminally online
|u/RidetheSchlange - 7 hours
|
|The Taliban is undoubtedly going to laugh about this. They'll
|understand the context that neither russia nor the US could defeat them
|and now the US is destroying itself from the inside and using the loss
|in Afghanistan to do it.
|u/Nowhereman50 - 7 hours
|
|I bet if we started call them his "Trans Team" enough his followers
|would start barking and pointing fingers at them for being trans.
|u/Negative_Piglet_1589 - 7 hours
|
|Kinda confused how they'd be court martialed 5 years after the orders
|were signed under presidential authority. Yeah that's sarcasm based on
|disgust of this entire circus of lunatics. I'd suggest Biden go Opera
|with presidential immunity pardons.
|u/Difficult-Active6246 - 6 hours
|
|They escaped being tried in the international court for war crimes and
|crimes against humanity to be tried for treason by an orange egomaniac.
|Now this is funny.
|u/JustRegularType - 6 hours
|
|Lol and it was *his fucking idea*!
|u/Marvalx00 - 6 hours
|
|😒
|u/SearchElsewhereKarma - 5 hours
|
|Ill be honest i thought this thumbnail was ben stiller's character in
|starsky and hutch at the auction. "DO it!"
|u/kazh_9742 - 5 hours
|
|There's going to have to be more push back than last time and more keep
|it secret, keep it safe by every corner of the government even if they
|have to evade the stooges. They especially need to keep up pressure and
|keep them scrambled while Putin still has a full plate.
|u/Present_Belt_4922 - 5 hours
|
|Oh dear - did folks not know what they voted for?
|u/corpusapostata - 5 hours
|
|Drumhead.
|u/Rad1314 - 4 hours
|
|Let's start with the guy who released 5000 Taliban fighters.
|u/jethoniss - 4 hours
|
|I guess I'll be the one to go out on a limb and say that the withdrawal
|was an absolute cluster fuck, tons of people died (Afghans mostly), and
|maybe there should have been consequences.
|
