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|u/OldSwiftyguy - 8 hours
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|I do feel a little dumber after getting it twice, not like stupid, but
|a little less quick. I can’t find the right words a lot .
|u/MyVoiceIsElevating - 8 hours
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|Brain fog?
|u/OldSwiftyguy - 8 hours
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|A little .. it also could be that I’m getting older , but it did
|come on quick ..
|u/Jackrabbit_OR - 6 hours
|
|I find recall and storing new information are my biggest hurdles
|over the past two years. I work in a very heavy scientific-based
|field and I have been forgetting really basic shit that I wouldn't
|have ever been able to before. Like, the way some of the BASIC
|algorithms work for what I support. And I am in my 30's.
|u/TheDungeonCrawler - 6 hours
|
|I haven't found that my memory has decllined but I have found
|that my ADHD seems to have gotten worse.
|u/poorest_ferengi - 5 hours
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|I've found my ADHD worse but also my vocabulary has dropped
|off a bit.
|u/Chrisboy04 - 5 hours
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|It's actually really refreshing to read that. Cause I
|thought it was just me and my increasingly bilingual
|vocabulary throwing words out. But I do definetly recognize
|what the comments above are saying.
|u/TheHornet78 - 5 hours
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|It could be nothing but my stuttering and forgetfulness of
|words I want to use feels like it’s getting worse
|u/hmbse7en - 4 hours
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|Yeah the ADHD thing has become the MAIN issue in my life, so
|many more obstacles because of it than before. The article
|mentioned executive function is at risk from COVID, so it
|would track that the already impaired part of the ADHD brain
|would feel additional strain.
|u/the_conditioner - 2 hours
|
|Exactly the same for me. Fucking maddening and nothing I
|can do about it.
|u/EnvironmentalValue18 - 4 hours
|
|I’m not alone! I’ve been lowkey thinking it was a brain
|tumor. I never tested positive for Covid but I worked the
|whole time in a customer-facing role. It seems like,
|recently, things are just strange. I read aloud to my kid
|and stumble a lot when it was previously seamless. I talk
|and words get spliced together or I just forget them.
|Learning new things seems like a more arduous process than
|previously, but old recall is generally fine. It’s honestly
|crazy - the thoughts are still there but everything else has
|taken a sharp dive.
|u/rainbowrobin - 2 hours
|
|We've known that covid could cause brain damage since
|[July 2020](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/08/
|warning-of-serious-brain-disorders-in-people-with-mild-
|covid-symptoms).
|u/fuckyoudigg - 5 hours
|
|That is a huge thing I've noticed in the last couple of
|years that my vocabulary has had a precipitious drop. I had
|difficulty finding the right word. I have always had that
|issue but it has gotten much worse.
|u/Y-Cha - 2 hours
|
|Absolutely same. My vocabulary took a huge hit, apparently,
|and ADD symptoms that I've been compensating for, racing
|back like I'm 20 again and both juggling full time school
|and full time work - aka, losing my shit.
|u/KJBenson - 4 hours
|
|Do you take meds for your adhd? I haven’t in a decade, but
|since getting Covid I was considering trying them again
|because I find it harder to focus now more than ever.
|u/scamlikelly - 2 hours
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|Oh god, I'm glad im not the only one. Not that I've ever
|been well spoken, but I do feel dumbed down for sure.
|u/tracking_down - 2 hours
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|I've been having a lot of issues with stringing like two to
|three variations of the same sentence together. I've always
|kinda done this but it's gotten to the point where even I'm
|like WTF am I saying. Like some sort of "are you fucking
|sorry" type of sentences
|u/lilelliot - 5 hours
|
|I don't know if it has anything to do with covid, but I will
|say that as I've gotten older (late 40s) I have found myself
|increasingly attuned to my body & mind, in terms of things
|like diet, recovery, exercise, sleep, routine and patterns.
|It feels much easier to get "thrown off" when things aren't
|normal than it used to.
|u/TConductor - 4 hours
|
|Same, but I can't tell if I'm just getting older. The last
|year was the first time I've had to up my dose since I was 19.
|I was always on 15mg a day, now I've moved always the way up
|to 40mg. I'm 36.
|u/similar_observation - 1 hour
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|Are you experiencing any form of depression? Some folks are
|experiencing moderate depression following severe or long
|covid. Depression symptoms also exacerbate attention issues.
|u/Choyo - 4 hours
|
|I always had a very (VERY) good memory, but since COVID I find
|that I have a lot of difficulty to remember some names of people
|I know. It's rather random, I can remember perfectly some of the
|names of my brother's highschool teachers from decades ago, but
|have a really (REALLY) hard time remembering the name of a
|person I worked with for several years but that I didn't see for
|just a couple of years. It's upsetting to lose a capacity
|that was immediate and effortless for your whole life.
|u/LaurenMille - 5 hours
|
|Oh so it's not just me? It's been like 4 years and I still
|have trouble learning new information. Compared to before I
|got Covid it's truly remarkable just how much worse my ability
|to retain new information has gotten.
|u/wrainedaxx - 6 hours
|
|I'm like you, only I'm forgetting words like "cupboard".
|u/KS-RawDog69 - 5 hours
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|It took me a good while for the brain fog to wear off, but it
|eventually did. I was forgetting names of people I knew well
|enough, how to do things, etc. It was a scary time. Was mid-30s
|myself. Hang in there, man.
|u/leesan177 - 3 hours
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|Ditto, it's like I can't remember vocabulary anymore. Or
|people's names. Or what step of a lengthy activity I'm on
|sometimes.
|u/ChemicalDeath47 - 4 hours
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|Also 30's but my memory was always shit, inconclusive
|u/ImgnryDrmr - 1 hour
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|I'm sometimes struggling to find words as well, on top of the
|storing and recalling thing. When I'm well rested I can work
|around it, but when I'm tired I'm barely a functional human
|being at times.
|u/YamburglarHelper - 7 hours
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|Rapid onset dementia!
|u/Brady721 - 7 hours
|
|So Ive had COVID twice, and my dad died from Frontal-temporal
|Dementia (same thing Bruce Willis has) and every time I notice I
|forgot something, forget a name, etc my anxiety spikes. My dad
|was diagnosed right before he turned 62 and he had to stay in a
|care facility until he died at 69. Fuck dementia.
|u/luckystrike_bh - 6 hours
|
|Pretty much the same thing with my mother recently. A horrible
|thing to go through.
|u/UndergroundFlaws - 6 hours
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|I’ve had it once, and then two seizures within a 4 year
|period. I have noticed a giant decline in my memory. I
|struggle to find the right words, and even when I’m typing,
|I’ll start typing random words instead of what I’m trying to
|say. I also misspeak all the time. I’m terrified of my mental
|state, and terrified for my future.
|u/dancinrussians - 6 hours
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|My dad also has frontal-temporal Dementia diagnosed around 60
|and I feel the same anxiety. He’s 76 now but basically a
|toddler who just sits and watches Disney Movies all day.
|u/TravellinJ - 6 hours
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|My friend’s husband had frontal temporal dementia and died in
|his 50s. Fuck dementia.
|u/C4Aries - 5 hours
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|Bro my grandma and mom both started in their 50s I have
|concerns.
|u/trojanguy - 3 hours
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|My mom died from Lewy body dementia and it was so
|heartbreaking to go through the whole thing with her and my
|family. I totally get that voice in the back of my head
|telling me maybe it's dementia when I'm slow to think of a
|word or fact. Probably just paranoia at this stage in life but
|still, fuck dementia.
|u/OldSwiftyguy - 7 hours
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|It happens slowly and then all at once.
|u/nvn911 - 7 hours
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|Brain Cancer!
|u/oh_hai_brian - 7 hours
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|*A wiiiitch!*
|u/Gamestop_Dorito - 7 hours
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|This is an actual category of diseases
|u/justherefertheyuks - 7 hours
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|Who needs WebMD when you have the Yamburglar
|u/Bjorn2bwilde24 - 7 hours
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|Could be Lupus.
|u/slicktromboner21 - 7 hours
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|It’s never lupus.
|u/tooclosetocall82 - 6 hours
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|It was that one time.
|u/onmywheels - 6 hours
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|I've had COVID three times *and* I have lupus - guess I'm
|fucked.
|u/xandrokos - 5 hours
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|Pretty sure I have this. I was having issues after getting
|covid twice but within weeks of getting covid a third time
|everything sort of went to hell for me cognitively and it keeps
|getting worse. I am so fucked.
|u/theMethod - 7 hours
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|Same for me. It also kicked up my migraines substantially, which
|has been fun.
|u/Jackrabbit_OR - 6 hours
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|I definitely feel you on the migraines. They seem to also be
|worse if I get even the slightest bit of a cold and I am more
|susceptible for a week or two following.
|u/xandrokos - 5 hours
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|Repeated covid infections is causing this in younger people too.
|u/derekneiladams - 5 hours
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|Same here, hair got grayer too…
|u/pepperoni86 - 5 hours
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|Same mate. I had it twice and can’t find what I’m trying to think
|of in my head as quick at times. I just turned 38, so I put it
|down to maybe getting older too, but somehow I’m not so sure.
|u/Inevitable_Seaweed_5 - 3 hours
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|Everyone tells me it's just getting older, but it's a definable
|difference pre and post covid. It doesn't really show externally,
|but I can tell the difference. As you say, just a little harder to
|do anything that requires brain power.
|u/Happy8Day - 3 hours
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|Same. I noticed a MASSIVE spike in completely blaming in totally
|normal everyday words I use very often and if I haven't referenced
|the word or situation in the last month or two, I have a hell of a
|time remembering it.
|u/Few_Investment_4773 - 7 hours
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|The brain fog symptom was more significant and noticeable than
|simply forgetting things more or not being able to find the right
|word. Those things you don’t notice until it happens, you otherwise
|feel normal. The brain fog was an ever present feeling of haziness
|and “I’m not like I used to be”
|u/LADY_ANYA_TS - 7 hours
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|I can't tell if it's because I'm aging and this is how my parents
|felt at this age, or if it is a permanent deficit due to covid. Or
|maybe honestly even the psychosocial trauma of the pandemic. All I
|know is I don't feel the same as I used to, as you said.
|u/RozenKristal - 6 hours
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|Does cardio workout frequently help clear up? I thought
|exercising might help somewhat
|u/LADY_ANYA_TS - 6 hours
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|I do tend to feel better after exercise!
|u/RatherUnseemly - 3 hours
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|You should avoid any strenuous exercise for 6-8 weeks
|following a COVID infection in order to avoid Long COVID
|u/LongDickMcangerfist - 7 hours
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|Happened to me really badly for like 3 weeks after I had Covid the
|last time before it kinda cleared up some it was like I was in a
|fog half the day
|u/Spew120 - 7 hours
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|I’ve had it 5 times. I’m never going to be the same.
|u/xandrokos - 5 hours
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|This is why it was always stupid for people to assume if they
|are young and healthy that covid won't be an issue for them.
|Covid has proven to cause culmulative damage with each
|additional infection causing people to become less and less
|healthy.
|u/LexxM3 - 1 hour
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|Well, based on this research, it doesn’t sound like having
|COVID is likely to cause them smarten up about it.
|u/FixedLoad - 5 hours
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|Five times!? You need to stop letting people spit into you're
|mouth. At least be more selective.
|u/SirWEM - 7 hours
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|More like the fuzzy feeling after a long night of partying, before
|the hangover hits. It a great way to describe it as “haziness”
|u/FunDog2016 - 6 hours
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|Did a Long-Covid Rehab Program and the best advice from
|Psychiatrist was: "It's ok to mourn who you used to be." I have
|been forever changed, I do not have the capabilities I did before
|covid! This is my worry for others, especially the young!
|u/EasySqueezyBreezy - 5 hours
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|Would you mind sharing where this Program is? We have friends
|whose teens got the ‘original’ COVID and they have never
|recovered. It has been completely life-altering, even life-
|ruining, for these kids. They are desperate and willing to try
|almost anything. TIA
|u/FunDog2016 - 5 hours
|
|The program was run from local hospital. Waiting list was
|about 1 year when I did it. Program availability varies by
|region, so seek advice locally. Family doctor, hospitals,
|and local Health Department is best place to start. I got
|Covid pre-vaccine and I understand that cohort got the worst
|of long-covid. There is unfortunately no real treatment.
|Physicians have generally no idea how to help, they just rule
|out different possible causes of symptoms. They want to make
|sure you don't die from something else! Rehabilitation was
|really Occupational Therapy based, with some physio and some
|psychological support. Symptoms in the group I was in did vary
|but there was a real shared experience that was extremely
|important. Only those dealing with it really understand the
|impact, and how your life is screwed! Just knowing you are not
|alone is huge: because family, friends and coworkers just
|can't understand. You look the same, there is no cancer type
|diagnosis that people react to; you are just different, less
|than before. That understanding, alone can make it worthwhile
|to do a program! I feel for them, completely get it and wish
|them the best of luck!
|u/dashboardrage - 5 hours
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|can you explain their symptoms in what way it was life
|altering/ruining? my job is to talk to people and nowadays I
|can't even form a fucking sentence.
|u/FunDog2016 - 4 hours
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|Massive brain fog, trouble finding words, terrible memory,
|lack of concentration/focus, and unimaginable fatigue! The
|stories and impacts are endless! The isolation that comes
|with all this is devastating as well! "Why did I stand up?
|What was I going to do? What did I come in here for?" These
|become constant reminders of the change! Can't commit to
|anything because you don't know if you will be able to do
|it! My body suddenly screams at me: Lay down now, sleep now!
|Sometimes for a nap, or maybe 16 hours, nobody knows! And
|NO it isn't the same thing that occasionally happens to
|everyone. It's constant, everyday, every hour. It is
|impossible to hold a job, maintain family life, or have
|friendships! It is devastating. Today I can accomplish
|what used to be simple errands, on the way home from work,
|and I am done for! Nevermind putting in a full workday, nor
|doing a the home stuff afterwards! No fun!
|u/Minimum-Register-644 - 46 minutes
|
|This is scarily accurate to me. I am now on disability and
|have to leave my near finished degree with a shitload of
|debt and pretty much nothing to show for it. I don't
|know how I am going to live like this and it is so hard on
|my partner and little one. I honestly do not know what to
|do anymore.
|u/18bananas - 4 hours
|
|Before Covid I ran 20 miles a week, climbed mountains, skied
|20-30 days a season. Then at 27 I got Covid for the second time.
|My physical abilities have deteriorated significantly. It comes
|in episodes. Some days I’m pretty normal, other days I struggle
|to go up stairs. I’ve been through neurology, cardiology, loads
|of bloodwork, MRI, all of it has turned up nothing. Some days I
|can still push myself physically and other days I’m out of
|breath while sitting down, having muscle spasms and confusion.
|Caffeine and stress seem to make it worse, but all of this
|testing has shown nothing out of order. I miss being able to
|get up on a Sunday morning and go run 8 miles. That’s when I was
|at my happiest and healthiest and I can’t seem to get that
|version of me back.
|u/FunDog2016 - 4 hours
|
|Yep, it sucks! Best medical advice I got was: Listen to your
|body! Of course, with Delayed Onset Post-exertional Fatigue
|it may not matter. Your body may just say fuck you, because of
|something you did 2 days ago! Best of luck!
|u/18bananas - 3 hours
|
|Same to you. My doctor says there’s a ton of money going in
|to long covid research right now and I’m holding on to some
|optimism.
|u/Sirknobbles - 4 hours
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|Yeah I’m in my 20s and I’ve had it twice. I seriously worry
|about my future
|u/FunDog2016 - 4 hours
|
|I say fuck everyone else's opinion: protect yourself as much
|as possible! Nevermind the personal costs to me, financially
|it has cost me close to $1 million in lost earnings, so far!
|u/Hadrian23 - 7 hours
|
|Same man, Same....
|u/OAMP47 - 7 hours
|
|I've had Covid once, over July 4th weekend in 2022 (caught before
|the weekend, the 4th was when I was in bed hacking up a lung).
|Retrospectively I realize for about 6 to 9 months afterwards I
|must have had some pretty serious brain fog, but when I was living
|it day to day it was hard to see. What got me to realize it was I
|tried going back and playing Morrowind for the first time in
|August of 2022 and I like completely could not understand the
|game. Yeah, it's a complicated game, but I'm used to games of
|that era, it shouldn't have been that difficult. I spent 10 hours
|playing and didn't complete a single quest, I was just too
|confused. Tried it again this summer and no problems, most fun I
|had in a long time. Covid really did make me dumber for awhile.
|It wasn't just that, but I really noticed my work performance in
|the second half of 2022 slipped too, but it's fortunately
|recovered.
|u/anjn79 - 6 hours
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|How long did it last for you? I've had the exact same. The first
|time lasted 6 weeks. Right now I'm on 7 weeks and counting for a
|second go round...
|u/GraveRaven - 5 hours
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|That's what caused this? I've been struggling with most of the
|symptoms in this thread for a few years now but never linked it to
|Covid. I've been anxiously trying to work out what is wrong with
|me. It's good to finally know, but man I'm upset there's nothing
|I can do.
|u/BScottyJ - 6 hours
|
|In recent months I've been doing a lot more pleasure reading than I
|did pre-covid and I've noticed that there are times where I straight
|up cannot understand what I'm reading. Like I can read each word
|fine but the point of the sentences isn't making any sense to me.
|And I don't mean the thing where you sort of lose focus for a moment
|and read a whole paragraph without really absorbing it, I mean I am
|actually focusing on what I am reading but my brain just isn't
|putting it together. It's like the picture I've been painting in my
|head begins to melt away. I'm only 26 so I don't really thing age
|has much to do with it. I also had covid years ago at this point so
|I'm not sure if it has anything to do with it, but it wouldn't
|surprise me if there's some slight after affects
|u/MyVoiceIsElevating - 6 hours
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|Of course it’s never easy for us to tell when something minor is
|off; it’s not like we can compare and contrast with another brain.
|u/BScottyJ - 5 hours
|
|Very true. It's also possible that it's something I've had my
|whole life and I'm only putting any thought into it now because
|I'm doing more activities that would make it noticeable than I
|was before. I definitely didn't have that feeling when I read
|for pleasure in middle and high school, but the books I'm
|reading now are also a lot more wordy and complex so that could
|have something to do with it. I do think it's interesting that
|so many people seem to be having the same shared experience at
|varying levels. Even if mine specifically isn't due to covid I
|wouldn't be surprised at all if there was a verifiable link
|discovered at some point
|u/HedonisticFrog - 4 hours
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|I'm experiencing the same thing. I wonder if it's covid now. It's
|more difficult to concentrate on things, from reading to podcasts.
|My memory is worse as well and it used to be my strong point. I'm
|only in my 30s, it's worrying.
|u/SirWEM - 7 hours
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|Yes i have “brain fog” after my second go with it. It sucks.
|Sometimes i forget I’m talking, trail off, etc constantly forget
|shit, start to write a note about something or make a list..and get
|sidetracked by a flitting thought or forget what i was going to
|write. i am glad i am a butcher because i can also rely on muscle
|memory to do my job because i have been doing it for so long.
|Others are not as lucky.
|u/YetiSpaghetti24 - 5 hours
|
|I graduated with an engineering degree right before I caught Covid
|in January 2022. It hit me like a truck a month later with serious
|chronic neurological symptoms that haven't gone away. Needless to
|say, I never looked for an engineering job and am stuck trying to
|survive each day doing the bare minimum at my family business
|where at least I won't get fired. I'm stuck feeling mentally
|disabled and incompetent at everything I used to be able to do.
|Brain "fog" is a massive understatement. A small amount of stress
|or mental exertion triggers severe neuroinflammation and hypoxia-
|like symptoms that decimate my cognition and environmental
|awareness. If I try to push through, it gets worse and worse until
|I feel like I'm black-out drunk, dizzy, slurring my words, unable
|to understand speech, and one of my eyebrows droops like I'm
|having a stroke. All the tests I've done have come back totally
|normal. Half the country doesn't even believe Long Covid exists,
|and now that half is in power. I'm losing hope.
|u/HumansNeedNotApply1 - 2 hours
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|Ask your doctors about ME/CFS, the diagnose will likely not help
|you in the short term as treatment is lacking but at least you
|will know what is going on. Either way, i hope all these long
|covid researches provide a breakthough soon.
|u/Solongmybestfriend - 36 minutes
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|I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this :(.
|u/Broskii56 - 6 hours
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|I got serious brain fog and had no idea until people told me I was
|making weird mistakes at work or just completely oblivious of my
|actions in little scenarios. Leaving things open or mis placing
|things seconds after placing them. It took about 2 months this time
|around to get almost back to normal.
|u/reece1495 - 6 hours
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| Not encouraging it but one lsd trip fixed my brain fog
|u/MyVoiceIsElevating - 6 hours
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|That sounds like it could go either way.
|u/twosidestoeverycoin - 7 hours
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|Right there with you. Only 38 but definitely felt more forgetful
|particularly in the words department… concerning.
|u/echolog - 7 hours
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|I'll just randomly stop in the middle of a sentence because I get
|stuck on a word sometimes. Never happened before COVID.
|u/irrelevanttointerest - 7 hours
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|Yeah this exactly for me. Just suddenly forgetting words or
|dropping the entire rest of the sentence until I glare into the
|middle distance for a second.
|u/fishvoidy - 6 hours
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|This started happening to me about a year ago, after I got sick
|with Covid. I used to be really good with writing, but terrible
|at speaking... now I struggle to find the words I need, and am
|even *worse* at speaking. It's a little frustrating, to say the
|least. I'm only 35.
|u/DemiserofD - 5 hours
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|Do you read much? I had that pretty bad but it's gotten a lot
|better since I've started reading books more often. Knocking
|all those words loose in my brain.
|u/ScaleProfessional801 - 4 hours
|
|Omg. You just linked two thing in my life together and now
|I've had a sudden realization. I've been doing exactly this
|this year and realized I've been better with speaking and
|remembering names and words.
|u/TPJchief87 - 5 hours
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|I start my thought feel like I have it, then when I try to
|articulate it I don’t make sense.
|u/Solkre - 6 hours
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|I've had that bullshit my entire lift. Recall is horrible.
|Studying is horrible. Memorizing is horrible. I have yet to
|catch covid cuz there's nothing for it to eat here :(
|u/403Verboten - 6 hours
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|I see this happening to more and more people myself included. I
|was at a party today and noticed several people get stuck on a
|simple word. I think we might all be permanently screwed up.
|u/AcanthaceaeFrosty849 - 4 hours
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|These are also common trauma responses. Not diagnosing, just a
|note.
|u/Andromansis - 4 hours
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|Man, like same but instead of forgetting a word I forget I even
|exist for a few seconds and then come back fighting to remember
|what I was even talking about.
|u/twotimefind - 3 hours
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|Me too. I totally understand. Be kind to yourself. It's much love.
|u/LaundryBasketGuy - 7 hours
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|32 here. I frequently have to search for the word I was going to use
|now for about 3 seconds. Have had covid twice, and I never did that
|before.
|u/BrightNeonGirl - 7 hours
|
|Same here. It's not like I was ever the most elegant and articulate
|as I feel my strengths are more visual than verbal, but I always
|felt fine with broadly saying what I mean (sometimes I would know
|there was a more precise word to use but the word I would end up
|using to approximate the idea would do sufficiently enough). I would
|think of myself as broadly smart, like above average although
|certainly no PhD in rocket science. But now I struggle with
|words/vocabulary so much that I've recently begun having the
|discomforting consequential thought of "...oh shit am I now actually
|dumb!?"
|u/OldSwiftyguy - 7 hours
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|I’m 54 .
|u/AshamedChoice - 5 hours
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|I know exactly what you
|u/SirWEM - 7 hours
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|Im 43 and had no issues with memory or speech or anything like that
|till i had covid the second time. For me its forgetting words,
|simple tasks ex. Im in the fridge grabbing a soda; my wife asks me
|to grab her one i say ”no worries” then comeback in the room with my
|soda and totally forget hers. Its a constant buzz/fuzzy feeling like
|after a long night of partying before the hangover hits. It totally
|sucks.
|u/Salty-Obligation-603 - 4 hours
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|I have long COVID, and the long COVID clinic has told me multiple
|times that COVID is similar to a TBI.
|u/TheNewButtSalesMan - 7 hours
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|That's exactly my issue. I haven't noticed a drop in overall
|cognition, but I struggle to find the word I'm thinking of all of the
|time now. My vocabulary just takes more focus to utilize, and it
|causes me to slow down and stutter more because I'm a very fast
|talker.
|u/IDrinkUrMilksteak - 3 hours
|
|I words bad now.
|u/RelChan2_0 - 7 hours
|
|Omg I can relate! I always said maybe it was because I went through a
|traumatic event during the pandemic but I have been feeling brain fog
|since I got COVID twice. Both mild but I feel like I'm not mentally
|100% ever since.
|u/Jumpsuit_boy - 6 hours
|
|Britain did a challenge trial early in Covid. There are still results
|coming out from it. The subjects were all young and healthy. One of
|the tests that they ran for a year also showed something similar.
|People that developed Covid had a small reduction in memory and
|executive function that persisted for at least a year. Additionally
|the people that did not develop Covid got better at the tests over
|time as they did them again and again. The people that did have covid
|never got better at the tests with practice.
|u/MaybeWeAreTheGhosts - 6 hours
|
|so the damage is permanent?
|u/Jumpsuit_boy - 6 hours
|
|We do not know. That trial ran a year.
|u/SelirKiith - 2 hours
|
|At this point, all we know is that it is a long term issue... if
|it is permanent we'll only be able to ascertain in a couple years
|at best, if there's even enough will and funding to look into it
|in the first place...
|u/ThatDarnBanditx - 8 hours
|
|Brain foggy / empty brained myself since I got it twice
|u/OldSwiftyguy - 8 hours
|
|Some of it I’m embracing . I was real type A personality (maybe a
|little arrogant also ) now I’m kinda going with the flow.
|u/dak4f2 - 6 hours
|
|I had to make this same adjustment after a concussion/brain
|injury. It's so sad to me that even mild covid acts like a brain
|injury.
|u/StubbiestZebra - 4 hours
|
|Yeah, I had a concussion when I was 18. Brain fog cleared up
|after a couple months. But I have a permanent stutter and
|aphasia. I worked really hard to cover the stutter and work
|around the aphasia. Over a decade of progress. Then one bout
|of COVID and I was basically back to where I started. Except now
|I have regular brain fog and my lungs are shot. I was a swimmer
|and could hold my breath for almost 2 mins. Now I can't for much
|more than 30 seconds. I had COVID 2 years ago...
|u/RavishingRedRN - 7 hours
|
|Same. That’s exactly it. Like processing takes a little longer. I also
|feel like get “brain tired” more easily.
|u/Proceedsfor - 3 hours
|
|Sorry to hear this. I think I had covid but I didn't had the time
|and resources to go see and get myself tested but it was the time
|when working from home became the norm and I'm hoping that it was
|just a normal "flu". Here's one interesting thought.. Those 2 covid
|years were also times when people had massive resets in sleep
|cycles. People still carry with them very bad sleep cycles and it's
|a major contribution for brain fog. Try getting alpha gpc and a
|consistent omega fish oil noots into the system, reset caffeine
|intake and sleep earlier and more, plus take some fitness class
|you'll get back to normal. I don't doubt covid caused a lot of
|slowness in many people.
|u/littlepup26 - 6 hours
|
|I'm so glad I'm seeing your comment because I have had the same issue
|after getting it a second time over a year ago. I have never had this
|problem before, I'm only 34, but it feels like words just drop out of
|my brain. I'll be mid-sentence and suddenly the next word I need
|simply isn't there. It's not like it's on the tip of my tongue either
|but somewhere much farther away, like I'm groping around in the dark
|in my own mind. I'm a cake decorator and part of my job is mixing a
|set list of buttercream colors to use throughout the week. I've been
|doing this for years. The other week I couldn't think of the word
|"turquoise," a color I have to make every single week. It wasn't even
|like it was on the tip of my tongue, the word simply wasn't there.
|After five minutes of trying to remember I gave up and had to ask my
|boss to remind me what the color was called. It's really scary, it
|doesn't feel like me.
|u/moisheah - 4 hours
|
|This is how it is for me. Losing words and not “on the tip of my
|tongue” but just not there at all. It’s an awful feeling. One mild
|case of Covid almost two years ago.
|u/Sudden-Echo-8976 - 4 hours
|
|Well... shit. What you describe there is something which I thought
|was the result of taking a new medication I started taking in 2022
|as the doctor said that it could cause issues with word recall. But
|what you describe is way too similar to what I am experiencing. I
|never had symptomatic covid though.
|u/_KONKOLA_ - 2 hours
|
|This is exactly how I’ve been feeling the past few years. Even
|reading you comment, I lose my position and constantly have to reset
|to the previous sentence. I’m only 24, I just graduated with a 3.9
|gpa at 22, but I feel fucking stupid now. I don’t think I have the
|same intellect I did just a few years ago and it EATS away at me.
|I can’t carry conversations like I used to. Just like you said,
|words are far away. Every day I notice difficult formulating
|sentences because I just lose the words I want to say without any
|hope of finding them. I quickly forget the point I was trying to
|make as well. It’s like my short term memory has been significantly
|hindered. I really hope there’s a solution because I can’t imagine
|going on like this. I genuinely can’t.
|u/TheMessengerABR - 40 minutes
|
|Hey my friend I'm right there with you. 28. I started a new
|fabrication/welding job Nov 2023 that I was recommended ( I
|fucking hate this shit I know there is a word for when you
|recommend a friend at a job and I can't fucking think of it) for
|by a friend. I was really confident I would do great there. I shit
|you not I struggled for months. Like making basic mistakes that
|I've never made in my life. Not checking important things,
|skipping over crucial steps, just straight up reading measurements
|wrong. It was humiliating because I really talked myself up and
|so did my buddy who referred (<-took me 5 mins to think of that
|word I shit you not)me. It felt like I forgot everything I had
|learned over the past 8 years and I was starting over. I've
|always been someone that takes pride in my work and quality so it
|started affecting me to the point that I finally went to see the
|doctor for the first time like like 3 years. I on a whim decided
|to mention my brain fog issue, still unsure of what was really
|happening. Long story short I was prescribed Vyvanse and it has
|made a word of difference for me, at least while I'm on it. It
|definitely hasn't cured my brain fog when I'm sober but it quite
|literally erased it while I was on it. But probably most notable
|was the amount of energy and motivation it seemed to spawn out of
|thin air. I take it once I wake up before work, get there in the
|morning around 6:30 feeling slow and groggy. But once it kicks in,
|it's like the lights have turned back on. To wrap it up before I
|delete this because I'm forgetting the point I'm even trying to
|make.. 1) I am worried about my dependency on this medication
|mainly due to the fact that I know it isn't actually fixing my
|underlying issues and 2) it does also seem to cause excess
|anxiety/perspiration which I think is causing me to have acne
|breakouts on my face, almost severe enough that I'm considering
|changing medications or getting it adjusted (I'm on 50mg). Hope
|this helps in some way
|u/Galaxicana - 7 hours
|
|I've tested positive a bunch of times. Now I catch myself constantly
|struggling to find the words I'm looking for. And I constantly lose my
|train of through. It's really frustrating. I'm not even 40 yet.
|u/Cooldude67679 - 4 hours
|
|Im not even 22 and I’m having the same issue. I get stuck on words
|and feel slower ever since I had it. I’ve had covid more than 4
|times but I don’t know if that’s the real number because my body
|doesn’t even register when I get it which terrifies me since I truly
|don’t know how often I’ve had it.
|u/twotimefind - 3 hours
|
|I totally understand. Please be kind to yourself. I know it's hard.
|Sounds like there should be a long COVID support group. Just know
|you're not the only one dealing with it.
|u/JennJoy77 - 3 hours
|
|I'm 47 and same, and I have at least another 20 years until
|retirement...no idea how I'll make it through.
|u/TheFamilyChimp - 7 hours
|
|I definitely feel the same way after getting a couple bad bouts with
|COVID. I'm an undergraduate and I definitely feel like my writing and
|speaking skills have declined dramatically, and my GPA is reflecting
|that accordingly.
|u/QuantumKittydynamics - 4 hours
|
|On the flip side of things, I'm a professor, and when I got COVID
|for the first (and hopefully only) time back in January, teaching
|became damn near impossible. On top of all of the physical symptoms
|I developed (tinnitus, gastrointestinal problems, etc.), I
|just...couldn't think. My processing times increased dramatically,
|and oftentimes I just couldn't formulate thoughts. So a student
|would ask me a question and I would just kind of...stare
|blankly...until coming up with something that was probably only half
|correct. My upper level class that semester only had five students
|in it. With the big lecture classes it wasn't so bad, because most
|of them are dicking around on their phones anyway. But when five
|upperclassmen have all of their attention on you, yeaahhhh...super
|duper NOT fun... Hang in there, and don't be ashamed to take
|advantage of any and all resources offered by your university. Mine
|has a great writing center that will do proofreading of essays for
|free, so that might be a good resource for you. And office hours,
|office hours, office hours! Your professors are there to help you
|succeed, and they're also human, so getting to know you personally
|during office hours might also help them better know how to help you
|through your individual struggles. You've got this!
|u/silvandeus - 7 hours
|
|I’ve had it 6 times (work at hospital)… I might need helping tying my
|shoes soon I guess.
|u/scarf_prank_hikers - 7 hours
|
|I feel this way when speaking with people. I can tell too and I don't
|know if I've always been this way and am just noticing, am getting
|older and less social and out of practice of speaking or what but it's
|been freaking me out. Writing I don't feel much different but I do
|feel generally less creative.
|u/kevthewev - 7 hours
|
|Same here, constantly forgetting what I was talking about. Never
|happened before Covid.
|u/Aert_is_Life - 7 hours
|
|Same. Words often get lost, and I can't recall things as easily.
|u/theuberwalrus - 7 hours
|
|Exact same thing for me.
|u/penmonicus - 6 hours
|
|I saw a thread on here talking about longterm effects and someone said
|it can drain your vitamin B12. After struggling with brain fog for
|ages, I felt better after taking a B12 supplement. I mentioned this
|to my doctor and he wasn’t really sold on it, so could definitely be a
|placebo, but might be worth giving a shot.
|u/redditsucks941 - 7 hours
|
|Same here with searching for words. Happens far too often for it just
|to be age-related.
|u/NCC74656 - 7 hours
|
|i feel that too. i work with electronics and where i once could keep
|a dozen levels deep worth of circuit connections in my head while
|troubleshooting things, visualize all the components. now i need to
|put in real effort to keep 3-4 deep. i feel less able to visualize
|things, slower on the wit, and less energy/more tired than prior to
|covid.
|u/thefreewheeler - 7 hours
|
|This is what happened after my brain surgeries. A lot of it was trauma
|and medication, but a fair amount has lingered long-term. Never got
|COVID though, fortunately.
|u/aaalderton - 7 hours
|
|Go do some TMS, it fixed me up.
|u/poeck - 7 hours
|
|Me too. I used to be really good at typing and now I suck. I can't
|type that fast without making mistakes. Also coming up with words is a
|big one.
|u/Teto_the_foxsquirrel - 6 hours
|
|I have the same problem. I used to have a decent vocabulary. Now I
|struggle with common words. One of my coworkers was amused by my
|working through figuring out the words for “paper clip”. There’s no
|reason I shouldn’t be able to remember what the name of a paper clip
|is. It’s disturbing.
|u/SPEEDFREAKJJ - 6 hours
|
|This describes it perfect. I had it for 5 weeks when I got it. Was
|very rough. Even the vaccine and boosters put me down for 2 or 3 days.
|(I have an autoimmune disease) For like 6 months after I was very
|slow, forgot words, got things mixed up doing routine activities like
|cooking. I would not say I feel dumb, like I still feel no change with
|what I know. It's just forgetting simple words during a conversation
|or just sometimes mixing up words. Whatever handles language feels off
|but thinking and reasoning skills feel the same. Just turned 50 last
|month so I'm not like super old but over two years since I had covid
|and it really does feel like it left its mark.
|u/WingdingsLover - 6 hours
|
|I'm constantly mixing up nouns for other similar nouns now, like I'll
|call my oven the dryer.
|u/FromTheIsland - 6 hours
|
|Right? Spelling is now a big one for me, or even finding the right
|word. Grasping for a word in the moment has been hell. I even sort
|of managed to live with my dyslexia, but now it feels more prominent
|since I recovered from Covid.
|u/J_Bright1990 - 6 hours
|
|I've had the same realization. I was a lot more elegant and quick with
|my words before COVID and I'm worried that COVID stole that from me.
|u/Vye7 - 6 hours
|
|I have the same thing… like word finding difficulties or I
|mispronounce words a lot more now
|u/Woodshadow - 5 hours
|
|My wife and I are in our 30s and feel like this. I don't know that it
|is true or not but definitely have brain fog often.
|u/Y-Cha - 3 hours
|
|Same. We were very careful with our PPE, getting boosters, etc, but
|ended up getting it twice in as many years. First was highly likely
|from my own brother (who lied to us about his exposure) in 2022, and
|next was from my spouse's coworker who kept coming in to work and
|strewing it about (mgmt DGAF). Terribly frustrating.
|u/davidicon168 - 8 hours
|
|I dunno if it’s age or covid but I certainly have more trouble with
|memory and focus since I got covid even though it’s been years.
|u/Lobsterbib - 8 hours
|
|In my early 40s and I can state definitively that my last COVID bout
|messed with my cognition and memory. I've always had the ability to
|recall every actor in every movie my whole life. Since infection I
|stumble now on the most famous of actors and film titles. Even my
|coworkers have noticed. Going on a year now and it's been that way
|since.
|u/time_drifter - 7 hours
|
|Late 30’s here and I feel the same. I particularly struggle with
|recalling names and tasks. I used to be razor sharp with my work
|tasks and didn’t need notes. Now I find that I am missing things in
|meetings, even with notes for no obvious reason. I hadn’t thought
|about COVID and I likely finished a bout of it in early October.
|u/RunTimeExcptionalism - 6 hours
|
|Dude same. I'm a mid-30s software engineer. Before the pandemic, I
|was sharp as hell; knew all my shit, maybe had to peek at stack
|overflow from time to time, but after getting COVID twice (despite
|staying on top of vaccinations), I feel like my brain is kinda
|scrambled. I was dismissive of AI "copilots", but I find myself
|using them more frequently because my cognition just seems
|diminished, and it's hard to keep up to where I was even a few
|years ago. I mean, I'm good at my job and I was promoted after my
|bouts of COVID, but my subjective experience makes me terrified of
|the unknown, long-term ramifications of repeated COVID exposure.
|u/Xypheric - 3 hours
|
|1000% this! I’m a web developer and since my last bout my
|recall, memory and attention span/ focus is gone. I got my
|first negative job review in 12 years due to it.
|u/alghiorso - 4 hours
|
|Same. I thought it was ADHD which I also have. Then I thought it
|was a thyroid issue. Discovered I have Hashimoto's too. Though I
|think there's a certain amount that is from covid. I have trouble
|remembering stuff that should come to me quickly. I used to have
|an excellent memory and was a whiz for stuff like trivia. Some of
|my memory might have gotten better after starting treatment for my
|thyroid but hopefully we figure something out for reversing the
|damage done by covid. I know of some people who got really messed
|up. A son of my parents' acquaintance went from being an FBI agent
|to having to move back home because he couldn't drive or take care
|of himself anymore.
|u/HazKaz - 30 minutes
|
|DAmn same age here , and i thought it was part of growing old.
|u/cheap_mom - 7 hours
|
|Sometimes at night I will keep myself awake trying to remember those
|kinds of facts, but refuse to look them up because I feel like I
|should remember and will at any moment. Eventually I cave so I can
|sleep. It bothers me so much.
|u/Grooviemann1 - 7 hours
|
|Funny enough, I've noticed the exact same issue with recalling
|actors names. I used to be downright encyclopedic with that stuff.
|u/PennyFromMyAnus - 7 hours
|
|Damn, this is what made me realize something was a little off with
|me.
|u/Raptor_1067 - 7 hours
|
|Same here. I used to be able to remember movie names based on a
|scene I'd remember. Now, it's all gone.
|u/jtaylor9449 - 5 hours
|
|Okay yeah this is freaky. This is exactly the issue that made
|me worried about cognitive impairment. I could easily recall
|movie and actor names faster than I could recall most things,
|but over the past couple years, its noticeably declined. I
|actually assumed this was just a natural part of aging, and
|hey it still can be, but kind of freaky im not the only one.
|u/Raptor_1067 - 5 hours
|
|Right pretty crazy to see others with the same problem. I'm
|mid 30's, and I just got promoted last year to a career with
|more responsibilities and stress. I figured it was that at
|first, but after a year it's still happening. Even went a
|very large part of this year alcohol-free with a lot of
|exercise. Still happening. I couldn't even remember Nick
|Saban on a commercial the other day, and I enjoy watching
|football.
|u/otterpop21 - 5 hours
|
|I used to watch movies and tv shows and remember them for
|at least a few years and rewatch just for the
|entertainment. Now after Covid I can watch a show, and in
|about a month I can watch it again and not remember like
|90%. I’ll remember if I liked it or not, typically the
|main plot points and that’s about it. I can never remember
|exact lines, from scene to scene what happens. I’ll recall
|as I watch it, but if you ask me before to recap, I’ll
|literally just have a blank brain feeling.
|u/WhatDoesThatButtond - 7 hours
|
|Same for me. I would have so many references to talk about. Now I'm
|always digging for names.
|u/redditsucks941 - 7 hours
|
|Exact same thing with me and actors’ names. That’s what tipped me
|off that Covid causes brain damage.
|u/odinspirit - 4 hours
|
|Shit, same thing with me. I used to love collecting bits of trivia
|in my brain and I could recall rock and roll and movie trivia with
|ease. Not anymore. I'm 54, and I was thinking it was just the
|beginning of cognitive decline from aging, but seeing all these
|young people describe the exact same thing has made it all clear.
|We all got infected by a stupidity disease.
|u/Galaxicana - 7 hours
|
|Omg same. I used to be a walking IMDB. Now I struggle to recall even
|super famous names and roles. It's so frustrating.
|u/Stoshkozl - 6 hours
|
|Yeah man. Me too. I want to chalk it up to getting older (late 40s)
|but it’s too frequent. With all names, faces and $10 words too
|u/4RichNot2BPoor - 5 hours
|
|My memory has noticeably declined the last couple years especially.
|I use to be bad with names now people I’ve interacted or worked with
|on several occasions draw a blank.
|u/Lucieddreams - 8 hours
|
|Same here and I'm only 26
|u/Admirable-Fall-4675 - 7 hours
|
|Fuck man, sorry.
|u/Lucieddreams - 7 hours
|
|Eh it's alright we make do, but I'm definitely bringing this post
|up to my therapist next week 😂 Take care of yourself, sorry to
|hear that we have noticed and felt the same issues
|u/letsmakepeace - 4 hours
|
|I am 29 and have gotten COVID twice (and most likely a third time)
|even though I was boosted. I believe I have undiagnosed anxiety and
|ADHD that have gotten really bad. But the main problem is not being
|able to recall things, mixing up my words, and having major brain
|fog. I’ve been in graduate school for the past 4 years and working
|at the same time - I recall being more snappy in the beginning. I’m
|just not the same anymore and I’m scared.
|u/Lucieddreams - 4 hours
|
|It's been the exact same for me! Heavy brain fog, absent-
|mindedness, slow thoughts, tripping over words, and horrible
|anxiety over not being able to have confidence in the things I say
|or do (for those reasons). I've also had covid 3 times and had
|lasting effects for 2 years. And the one that I still have to this
|day is my worsened asthma. I struggled with my fair share of
|anxiety before it all happened, but I always knew deep down that
|covid was the reason that things shifted. It was just always in
|the back of my head, and when I saw this post it reaffirmed those
|thoughts. It's a scary feeling. I used to feel snappier too.
|Hang in there, there's a lot of us out here who feel this way and
|for me at least, it feels it's gotten slightly better over time.
|Therapy helped a lot, and life has gone on for better or worse.
|Things really have improved over time though and I believe it will
|continue to improve. Don't be afraid to reach out for help, it's
|easy to get stuck in those thoughts and I don't want you to halt
|your life for them. It will be okay
|u/JamUpGuy1989 - 8 hours
|
|Same. Although my dad has some memory issues so maybe it’s just my
|genes.
|u/Un4giv3n-madmonk - 8 hours
|
|early 30s, same
|u/scarf_prank_hikers - 7 hours
|
|Yeah, you told us that three times already.
|u/ShadowWolfKane - 7 hours
|
|My mom hasn’t been as sharp since she got it, 3 years ago. She’s still
|getting nausea, brain fog, memory isn’t as good as it used to be.
|u/UofMtigers2014 - 2 hours
|
|My mom has terrible short term memory and is showing all the signs of
|dementia. However, all testing for dementia, stroke, or other typical
|diseases that are causing these symptoms are turning up negative.
|u/Minimum-Register-644 - 42 minutes
|
|I also got sent for a bunch of these tests as my cognitive abilities
|have just vanished. All things came back clear and I am just out of
|ideas as to what I can even do about it. I am only 34 and I got it
|for the first time at 31-32ish.
|u/Lolkac - 2 hours
|
|I wonder if someone can get smarter after covid? My mom had brain fog
|and bad memory before covid, now she remembers everything and is
|studying new language with really impressive results.
|u/Nightcrawl-EUW - 3 hours
|
|same, my mom was never the same after having it
|u/eunderscore - 2 hours
|
|It crazily accelerated my mum's dementia. She was living...OK...by
|herself in early 2020, got a uti, went to hospital, got covid, got
|covid two more times, showing no symptoms on any occasion, never went
|home again, and by a year later she was mentally gone. Took until
|early 2022 for her to pass though, by which point she had no idea what
|was going on.
|u/farfarastray - 1 hour
|
|My mother hasn't been the same since Covid either. Same symptoms, she
|also had trouble catching her breath for about a year after when
|taking walks.
|u/herodothyote - 2 hours
|
|I had covid brain fog too. It got better thanks to Vitamin D3 + K2,
|magnesium, potassium and B vitamins. Covid is extremely stressful on
|the body and it WILL worsen any deficiencies you may have already have
|had. It doesn't help that EVERYBODY has a magnesium and a potassium
|deficiency that gets worse as they grow older. Magnesium is stored in
|the bones and takes a WHOLE ASS YEAR to replenish after a deficiency.
|Potassium is also aways a problem because humans need HUNDREDS of
|bananas worth of potassium to meet their RDA! You have to eat FIVE
|CUPS OF LEAFY GREENS just to get SOME of your RDA. That's why
|everybody is deficient in potassium. Lots of brain fogs and energy
|problems can improve if you fix your vitamin and mineral/nutrient
|deficiencies. Here's what I take in one day: 1 airborne fizzy
|vitamin, 1 body armor electrolyte powder, both in the morning. As well
|as CoQ10 for energy, metabolism and heart health. All of these morning
|supplements give me an incredible boost in energy. With dinner I take
|zinc, vitamin d3 + K2, as well as magnesium glycinate. Taking these at
|night helps immensely with my sleep quality. I feel SO well rested
|after I started actually supplementing. Of course, none of this will
|work unless you ALSO pair it with high quality foods with plenty of
|fat and protein. Lack of fat and not enough protein and too many carbs
|are making us lazy and stupid. Anyways, take care of yourself
|people and STOP EATING GARBAGE FOOD.
|u/twirlingmypubes - 8 hours
|
|After getting it 3 times, I can attest that everyone else got dumber.
|u/Vecna_Is_My_Co-Pilot - 8 hours
|
|Thank the gods. I needed something to explain my own incompetence.
|u/disposableaccountass - 5 hours
|
|In like the last 4 years so many people got so fucking dumb, they
|voted the guy that originally let it run rampant back.
|u/gizamo - 6 hours
|
|I got it once, vaccinated, and boosted a few times. I can
|confirm that many people got dumber. Point and case, Trump
|is president again.
|u/KILLALLEXTREMISTS - 4 hours
|
|I've never had it so I'm smarter than all of you!
|u/unnameableway - 7 hours
|
|I definitely can’t hold things in my head as well. Tasks, concepts in
|conversation. I’ll be talking to someone about something and literally
|just forget mid conversation what we are talking about.
|u/EnvironmentalValue18 - 4 hours
|
|I have this same issue! And then it’s so embarrassing - how do you
|even recover from just losing your entire concept *mid-sentence*.
|Relieved it’s not just me.
|u/munchauzen - 2 hours
|
|"I'm sorry, I just got distracted and totally lost my train of
|thought. What did I just say?" it works surprisingly well
|u/EliselD - 2 hours
|
|I used to have the same problem, but it turned out I had ADHD and my
|symptoms got worse during covid. Now I'm doing better than ever
|u/vvownido - 2 hours
|
|ive always been like that tbh so i cant tell if covid changed anything
|u/ginger_ryn - 8 hours
|
|my memory is worse, my focus is worse
|u/Brief_Koala_7297 - 2 hours
|
|Same, feels like my cognitive ability is not where it was before I got
|covid. Getting older and becoming less attractive was not something I
|worried about but losing your mental faculties bit by bit is something
|that is hard for me to live with. I hope it doesn’t get worse.
|u/Moneyshot_ITF - 8 hours
|
|Brain fog was brutal following covid. It mostly left though
|u/1egg_4u - 7 hours
|
|This isnt a surprise imo We had plenty of evidence that covid was
|impacting blood supply/epithelial cells and that it was observed
|crossing/altering the blood-brain barrier This is why it should have
|been crucial to drill it into the extra thick skulls that obtusely
|thought "natural immunity" is better that death isnt the only outcome of
|getting sick and getting sick causes damage to your cells "Just a flu"
|doesnt matter because you shouldnt want to get the flu, let alone a
|novel pandemic virus that we dont even know the full consequences of.
|u/wyvernx02 - 6 hours
|
|>Just a flu" doesnt matter because you shouldnt want to get the flu
|People who say that are the ones that call any bad cold the flu and
|don't understand how deadly the actual flu can be. I had H1N1 back
|during the outbreak around 15 years or so ago and even being young and
|fairly fit it felt like I was dying it was so bad. My cases of covid
|were mild in comparison.
|u/aure__entuluva - 6 hours
|
|> I had H1N1 back during the outbreak around 15 years or so ago
|That was still the sickest I've ever been in my life. Didn't get
|covid though (or was asymptomatic).
|u/TonyNickels - 4 hours
|
|H5N1 is kicking off now, just when the people who deny germs exist
|are taking back power. That shit has me on edge.
|u/xandrokos - 4 hours
|
|We got lucky with covid but that isn't going to be the case with
|H5N1. If we get another pandemic during the next 4 years the
|death toll is going to be catastrophic.
|u/Renmarkable - 42 minutes
|
|especially as we know covid has damaged immune systems leaving
|us more vulnerable
|u/papoosejr - 3 hours
|
|The flu can be fucking wild. Last couple times I had it I was half
|conscious in a dream world for 3 days straight
|u/stompinstinker - 2 hours
|
|People forget how crazy influenza is. They start calling bad colds
|flu, but actual influenza is two weeks on the couch.
|u/MatttheBruinsfan - 2 hours
|
|Even run-of-the-mill flus are so much worse than colds. Sore throats
|and congestion aren't fun, but aside from the unpleasantness my
|brain is still working normally and I have the energy to get stuff
|done even if I feel crappy while doing it. The exhaustion and
|feverish fuzzy-headedness of flus are pretty incapacitating by
|comparison.
|u/rainbowrobin - 2 hours
|
|Brain damage was observed by July 2020.
|https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/08/warning-of-serious-
|brain-disorders-in-people-with-mild-covid-symptoms
|u/xandrokos - 4 hours
|
|This is going to overwhelm healthcare systems in a few years as people
|get older and sicker and have more complicatons from covid not to
|mention the increased demand for government aid. Doesn't help Trump
|and his fuckwit administration want to gut SS/medicare/medicaid when
|if anything we need to be investing more into it.
|u/SleepingWillow1 - 2 hours
|
|It's this the real reason for the U S. election results?
|u/BaconBusterYT - 6 hours
|
|I hate how we keep “finding out” the same things about covid over and
|over again and yet there’s no nationwide effort to fix our air quality
|in hospitals/schools or get people to wear masks when they’re sick (or
|even when they aren’t). Instead we got the president telling people that
|the pandemic was over and now no one wants to think about it as it
|continues to tear through us. Fucking hell
|u/Ok-Manufacturer-5351 - 3 hours
|
|I wear mask and get side eye from most people like I am an alien, some
|people tell me that COVID is gone why are you still wearing mask? Even
|in COVID I saw people wearing mask and remove it before sneezing or
|coughing so not to ruin their mask... Even today some people
|intentionally start coughing for lols when they see me wearing a mask
|and I'm near them. Most people don't want rules to apply to them
|cannot fix them.
|u/twotimefind - 3 hours
|
|Right. Totally destroyed any faith I had left in the government.
|u/Snoo_57488 - 3 hours
|
|More like in humanity. The government could try to do something but
|half the country would scream hoax or conspiracy and say they’re
|like filtering out chemtrails or some shit.
|u/dasunt - 1 hour
|
|It's a weakness in democracy. Take something that's relatively
|low risk but still dangerous that people don't want to stop doing.
|There's then an advantage to tell people that they should keep
|doing it to appeal to them. Either to sell something or to get
|elected. An historic example would be indoor smoking bans. Those
|were controversial when first proposed, and there was plenty of
|push back originally. It took shifting values to get where we are
|at today.
|u/twotimefind - 8 hours
|
|I don't need no brain scientist to tell me that. I used to not have to
|keep notes now. I'm lost without a notepad. It's frustrating to say the
|least. I'm super frustrated, but I've been willing to be kind to myself.
|I decided that quite a bit ago. Masked up and still got COVID four or
|five times. Three of the times we're in the last two years.
|u/96puppylover - 8 hours
|
|I take written notes when I watch tv now. I write down everyone’s
|names, what they look like, major plot points and dialogue. I
|literally cannot absorb information like I used to.
|u/LaurenMille - 5 hours
|
|I got covid right as I had to quit my previous career for health
|reasons. 4 years later I still haven't managed to finish basic
|certification for my new career path because I simply cannot seem to
|retain new information. Honestly it's just bringing back suicidal
|thoughts whenever I even think about studying. Yet at the same time
|I can't exactly keep doing my current work either because it just
|exhausts me too much mentally. All in all, it's a bit of a bummer.
|u/xandrokos - 4 hours
|
|This is what terrifies me right now. I spent my entire adult
|life in retail management and since covid I can't deal with retail
|anymore so I was planning on going back to college for IT but I am
|not sure I will be able to complete a degree.
|u/LaurenMille - 3 hours
|
|Similar to me then. I spent my adult life in administrative
|roles but due to some issues with my eyes I can't really read on
|paper for extended periods of time. Considering admin roles
|still use paper in 99% of things, that ended my career. So I
|tried to change over to an IT role considering I'd been building
|computers and writing little scripts/tools since I was like 12.
|Despite having decades of experience, I can't even retain
|information that I should already know, let alone new
|information that I need to learn.
|u/k_ironheart - 7 hours
|
|Reading all these comments from people that have suffered cognitive
|impairment from covid and they're just... you all are describing my
|normal everyday experience with ADHD. I'm really sorry, it sucks.
|Maybe reading/watching up on some ADHD coping tips will help.
|u/wyvernx02 - 6 hours
|
|I have ADHD and have had covid 3 times. I had the mild brain fog and
|lack of focus before, but it got significantly worse post covid.
|u/ronniesaurus - 1 hour
|
|Same. Well number of times unsure. One confirmed. Likely twice.
|u/Aiyon - 41 minutes
|
|I’ve only had covid once, but I went from able to function pretty
|normally Unmedicated, to having a hard time focusing through a 20
|minute meeting. Used to be if I had something to idly do with my
|hands, I could keep myself listening. Now, someone addresses me
|and I just kinda blankly look at them like I’ve never heard words
|before Pair that with feeling genuinely dumber since it, and I
|keep worrying that work is gonna notice I’ve got worse at my job
|u/Pete_Iredale - 6 hours
|
|For real, especially having adhd and aging a bit.
|u/32FlavorsofCrazy - 5 hours
|
|I have ADHD and MS. My brain is totally fucked anyway…bring it on, I
|guess. I probably had Covid at least once but never got a positive
|test. The one time I’m pretty confident was Covid because I was so
|horrendously ill but they wouldn’t test me at the time because I
|hadn’t traveled or gotten a known exposure, it was really early on
|and not enough tests were available cuz Trump sent them to Putin,
|apparently. I used to be pretty smart but I have definitely noticed
|some cognitive decline the past few years. Not sure what’s to blame
|but it hardly matters at this point. Now RFK wants to take away half
|my meds that treat my multitude of health issues, so that’s just
|swell.
|u/kndyone - 6 hours
|
|Covid gives ADHD confirmed!
|u/twotimefind - 2 hours
|
|Unfortunately I already have ADHD but was able to Managing pretty
|well with It's set routine in a good diet and healthy sleep
|habits... Now it seems to be in overdrive. I need to constantly
|tell myself to stay on task, even while doing dishes.
|u/BibliophileMafia - 5 hours
|
|What kind of mask are you using?
|u/mlennox81 - 6 hours
|
|I’ve had it twice only (I think? Maybe 3 times) both fairly mild and
|it’s been about 2 years since my last time having it. My memory is
|just awful compared to what it was. I’m only 30 but wow I have
|projects that I’ll spend a full two weeks on at work and 3 months
|later have trouble recalling a single detail about them. I misplace
|stuff often now, or as other have said can struggle to come up with
|names like of a well known actor or such. Others around me including
|my wife haven’t really noticed much of a difference, I was fortunately
|a pretty bright guy to begin with so I guess that helps, but damn does
|it make me feel stupid. I used to be the type of person that would
|remember your phone number or address if you told it to me maybe
|twice. The other part that has been really tough for me is a few
|months pass and I’ll remember say that weekend we went to the beach
|but I would have trouble telling you if it was in June, July or
|August. It’s making time blur together and pass by really fast. I try
|not to dwell on it too much, it makes me too upset.
|u/Krolex - 6 hours
|
|Any correlation to vaccinated vs not? Sorry to hear :(
|u/rainbowrobin - 2 hours
|
|Unvaccinated people at at higher risk.
|u/thejawa - 8 hours
|
|I never "officially" got COVID but got sick as a dog the January before
|it became publicized, and I live in Central Florida which has high
|tourist rates. My symptoms included becoming short winded easily,
|alongside being effectively bedridden for a few days. I've since gotten
|all the boosters and haven't been diagnosed with COVID at any point, but
|since that illness I can only describe what happens to me as being
|"empty" when trying to think of certain things. I can eventually process
|what I'm trying to think of but I'll start a train of thought and
|somewhere along the way there will just be a blank space that I can't
|fill for a bit. This happens very frequently - multiple times a day -
|and I've never felt like it was an issue until the past 3ish years.
|Granted, I'm pushing 40 and my family has a history of dementia, so
|maybe it's age related and this story is all anecdotal anyways. But I
|wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it was inevitably linked to
|lingering effects from COVID.
|u/Phixionion - 8 hours
|
|This. I don't think we have cracked the surface of what Covid really
|did to us. I feel like I get brain fog or farts a lot since Covid hit.
|I just don't think the same depth I did before.
|u/thejawa - 7 hours
|
|The biggest hit I've noticed is - oddly - remembering song/movie
|titles or famous people's names. I used to be able to quote a movie
|or something and if someone asked who said it, I could usually
|always respond where it came from immediately. Now, I still remember
|the quotes or whatever themselves fine, but when I try to recall
|where it came from I go completely blank. I have to work my way
|backwards from like "It was that movie where they stole a bunch of
|cars, and I think it had Nic Cage in it..." Shit even typing it
|out just now, I can't pull the name of that movie even though I know
|exactly what movie I'm referring to. Edit: Gone in 60 Seconds.
|Thanks iMDB, you're always there for me now.
|u/WhatDoesThatButtond - 7 hours
|
|This is hilarious because we either are all just getting older or
|all noticed a skill we no longer have.
|u/ironstamp - 7 hours
|
|Yep, it’s weird how all this reads as if it was exactly me
|saying it.
|u/7URB0 - 3 hours
|
|> I don't think we have cracked the surface of what Covid really
|*did to us*. ***Is*** doing to us. Is *continuing* to do to us.
|It's not *over*. It didn't *end*. It's as widespread as it ever was.
|The second-highest peak was *this. year*. The government and media
|told us to go back to normal, and for reasons I *still* can't fully
|fathom, most people *did*. And left the rest of us pulling our hair
|out, wondering wtf happened to our friends, our neighbors, the
|world... And there's been evidence of covid attacking IQ levels for
|*years* now. Most people don't seem to go looking for this
|information on their own, and the people who own this world aren't
|in any hurry to tell us. Not while there's money to be made in our
|suffering.
|u/video-engineer - 8 hours
|
|My dad (90yo) died in Feb of 2020. He was at an assisted living
|facility here in CF. His doctor gave him tests for flu and pneumonia,
|but they all came back negative. At the time, we were only hearing
|about a flu outbreak in Seattle. But all my dad‘s symptoms turned out
|to be identical to Covid. He must’ve been infected sometime in
|January.
|u/yain77 - 7 hours
|
|I believe it was floating around before it hit pandemic size. I was in
|the hospital for heart failure end of June '19, and had regular
|checkups ever 2 to 3 weeks for 3 months after. About somewhere mid
|August-mid September, I lost both sense of smell and taste for at
|least a week or so. Asked my docs about it, thinking it could been
|the medicine they had me on. Both tell me to ask the other, since they
|had no ideal at the time.
|u/ShowMeYourRivers - 7 hours
|
|I think this is the case too. My brother had a really bad cough for
|months, and went to numerous doctors who couldn’t give him a true
|diagnosis other than “this seems like bronchitis, but it’s not. We
|don’t really know”. shortly after his cough, my mom got sick.
|Usually even at her worst, will keep living life. She couldn’t get
|out of bed for almost two weeks - I’ve never seen her hit so hard.
|Then I got sick a week or so later, also so sick I couldn’t get out
|of bed. This was around September/october 2019
|u/plutoforprez - 4 hours
|
|My manager swears to god her husband had Covid in regional Australia
|in October 2019. She said he and his coworkers at a restaurant all
|came down with a mystery disease with cold-like symptoms after one of
|them caught a plane in from Japan, that the doctors couldn’t identify
|what it was. I am fairly skeptical, that last part in particular makes
|me doubtful, wouldn’t they have been at least be able to identify it
|as a variant of SARS? But it’s not beyond the realms of possibility.
|u/cptnringwald - 8 hours
|
|I caught it for the first time this year and it was a doozy. I am and
|have been fully vax'd since they were available and this did a number on
|me. Since then, I've seriously struggled at work and with focus. I feel
|dumber, I can't solve problems like I used to, and things have to be
|explained to me way more than before. So I buy this theory
|u/taatchle86 - 7 hours
|
|I don’t think I ever got COVID. Due to an anxiety disorder I’m mostly
|a shut-in and I keep up to date with my shots through the VA (though
|I’ve been sent to Walgreens to actually get it administered).
|u/LeapIntoInaction - 7 hours
|
|Yes, I've noticed. I can't focus as well, my train of thought may get
|lost, and I feel like a bit of an idiot. Fortunately, I had some IQ to
|spare and am retired. My loss is basically only personal, and I know
|some good compensation techniques. I still feel like an idiot but, I
|aintent dead yet.
|u/GabuEx - 7 hours
|
|It does seem like you basically roll 2d20 and consult a lookup table to
|figure out what the permanent effects of getting COVID-19 are. My
|husband got it and now has an extremely lessened tolerance to spicy
|food. Which is not by any means the worst outcome, but it's still very
|weird.
|u/AbbeyOfOaks - 4 hours
|
|I had that spicy food intolerance for about a month and a half. It
|went away suddenly one weekend and I've been fine ever since.
|Hopefully that's true for your husband too.
|u/rainbowrobin - 1 hour
|
|> t does seem like you basically roll 2d20 and consult a lookup table
|Pretty much. That virus infects via ACE2 receptors, which are
|expressed by pretty much every organ in your body. It only _needs_ to
|infect your nose and lungs to spread, which is why it can spread so
|fast, like a cold or flu. But virus wandering into other parts of
|your body can damage any other organ, unlike most cold viruses (which
|only use respiratory-cell receptors.) So every infection really is
|playing Russian roulette with your organs. Or "random hit location".
|u/Chicki88 - 7 hours
|
|I got long Covid the second time, I lost the ability to do math in my
|head, and kept forgetting names, along with other symptoms. My most
|recent bout left me a little brain foggy as well. I really feel like
|it’s done some permanent damage.
|u/CatDaddy_99 - 7 hours
|
|I've lost the ability to do mental math as well, used to be one of the
|few things i was good at now stuggle when adding up a tip. It's been
|3 years and no improvement, idk if it will ever come back.
|u/WRB852 - 5 hours
|
|I was just thinking about this today. Have you guys tried practicing
|at all? I only have a little bit, but it doesn't seem like it's very
|helpful. I used to be able to "feel" the numbers in my head, but
|now it feels like they're just unrecognizable blobs that like to
|disappear and never come back. It seems that specifically
|"identifying" things is the part that's not working right, and that
|my mental math would still work fine if not for that. edit: Just
|had a few more thoughts to add (no pun intended) Assuming I'm right
|about misidentifying quantity, then perhaps remedial arithmetic
|isn't directly beneficial, and instead we should maybe turn our
|attention to counting? Do you guys also struggle now with counting
|objects in clusters? I've noticed that when I need to count 10-20
|things in a row, my mind really struggles with keeping track of what
|I've already counted. I remember the method was always to group and
|"write off" blocks of objects at a time. I'd recognize five here,
|four here, etc and then just add them all up. Now it seems that when
|I try to say "that is 4", the value fails to become stored in my
|mind correctly. Instead of 4, I'll sense something that feels more
|like "maybe 3". It's so strange because I can't remember "maybe 3"
|ever really being a concept that would cross my mind before! It's
|like my brain doesn't even know what to do with something so
|ridiculous. Can anyone else relate?
|u/mysterioussamsqaunch - 1 hour
|
|Sort of, I'm disabled with long covid. I got sick in oct of 2020,
|I was able to struggle along for a bit over a year before
|everything got bad enough that my doctors had me stop working. I
|think I kind of get what you're saying. For me, I think of it like
|being stuck going "uuuuhhhhh." Like the I just get stuck between
|thoughts. It also kind of reminds me of the times in my life when
|I've had extreme pain, and the only thing you can think of is the
|pain. I have actually been prescribed a stimulant that is used to
|treat narcolepsy. Since I've started that my thoughts have become
|like logical again. I actually noticed the benefit first while out
|to eat. I was able to calculate the tip and total in my head. I
|hadn't even really realized I had stopped doing that. I'm still
|not how I used to be. If I have to figure out complex things I
|still have to write more things down than I used to, I stumble
|over my words alot, and on bad days, I just avoid difficult tasks,
|but I feel like I'm thinking again.
|u/killrwr - 32 minutes
|
|I love that, keep taking it day by day. Proud of you.
|u/ether_mind - 8 hours
|
|Maybe this can explain why we re-elected Trump.
|u/4ourkids - 8 hours
|
|That and increased CO2 levels, which also causes cognitive impairment.
|Idiocracy here we come!
|u/restore_democracy - 8 hours
|
|And many of his voters ate lead paint as kids.
|u/Billy3the_Mountain - 8 hours
|
|And not enough electrolytes.
|u/nik282000 - 6 hours
|
|It's what plants crave!
|u/ReverendDizzle - 5 hours
|
|I learned something rather fascinating just this year. When
|children are exposed to lead almost all of the lead is stored in
|their bones as the calcium formation locks the lead away. It will
|still cause neurological problems, no doubt, but a good portion of
|it ends up in the bones. It stays locked up there for most of
|the exposed person's life... until they begin to lose bone density
|in old age. Then the lead is released into the body again. And,
|damn, if *that* doesn't explain a lot I don't know what does.
|u/Dio_Frybones - 6 hours
|
|I'm an electronics tech and had been known to use my mouth as a
|third hand while soldering - to hold the solder. And I'd never
|vote for Trump. Sure, I'm Australian, which also plays a part in
|not voting for Trump, but that's beside the point.
|u/jtinz - 2 hours
|
|We also had leaded gas back then. But I'm not sure the younger
|generations are doing any better. Edit: [Numbers:](https://www.st
|atista.com/statistics/1535288/presidential-election-exit-polls-
|share-votes-age-gender-us/) They're not quite as bad.
|u/Stompedyourhousewith - 7 hours
|
|Go away, I'm batin'
|u/tonycomputerguy - 6 hours
|
|I like money.
|u/DemandZestyclose7145 - 4 hours
|
|I can't believe you like money too. We should hang out.
|u/RaffyGiraffy - 7 hours
|
|I just showed my husband this movie tonight! It was too close for
|comfort 😑
|u/SilverBack88 - 6 hours
|
|You mean documentary
|u/Crazy_Idea_1008 - 8 hours
|
|More likely the airborne mercury-oxide contaminants that the EPA
|scrapped under trump. Which do in fact crater iq.
|u/Rado_Dad - 7 hours
|
|Brawndo! It's what plants crave
|u/igloofu - 7 hours
|
|> Idiocracy here we come! You know, Tasty Gatorade and Carl's Jr
|all the time (and no one was fat!?), handjobs at Starbucks, life not
|really mattering if you fail...I can see worse futures.
|u/RepresentativeRun71 - 7 hours
|
|Brought to you by Carl’s Jr.
|u/jda06 - 3 hours
|
|So rare to see this in the wild. I keep waiting for a long form
|piece or for it to go viral that we are all literally a little
|dumber from the increased CO2 and it’s only going to get worse and
|worse. I don’t think the average news consumer has been told this.
|u/Minimalistmacrophage - 8 hours
|
|Possibly a factor, though things like misinformation, CNN moving to
|the right acting as both platform and arguably validation for right
|wing misinformation, Inflation being blamed on Biden, etc.. all played
|a role.
|u/xandrokos - 4 hours
|
|Cognitive issues literally make it easier to get people to fall for
|misinformation.
|u/edwartica - 3 hours
|
|I also wonder if ease of voting (or lack there of) had an impact on
|the election. More states were willing to do vote by mail in 2020
|than in 2024.
|u/sexygnome - 1 hour
|
|All the constant gaslighting from Russia
|u/Valdotain_1 - 7 hours
|
|Also explain Trump’s 2 hour long unfocused monologues.
|u/johnjohn4011 - 8 hours
|
|For some reason, I can't seem to shake the feeling that we actually
|didn't. Just a feeling, but it's persistent.....
|u/posthuman04 - 7 hours
|
|I would doubt it but after the right wing billionaires bought all
|the major media in America and seemed to go to any available lengths
|to normalize a fraud, felon, rapist, insurrectionist, dictator
|wannabe… I don’t think Americans were prepared to see through that
|much bs.
|u/bagoink - 5 hours
|
|It was too much bs for their COVIDed brains to process.
|u/juicyfizz - 8 hours
|
|Yeah I’m with you. I can’t shake it. Maybe it’s denial, idk. The
|whole vibe is really weird right now.
|u/Light_Beard - 7 hours
|
|Occam's Razor. The simplest answer is usually the correct one. I
|think it is far more likely that people were apathetic and did not
|vote and that people voted against their own self-interest again
|and again and again as usual. Rather than there being some kind of
|grand conspiracy. A small conspiracy I could see. But this really
|wasn't even close
|u/Stompedyourhousewith - 7 hours
|
|I think it's the guy who says the election is in the bag and
|keeps projecting that the election will be stolen, who
|incidentally was convicted of fraud, and going to stand trial
|for election interference but managed to run out the clock,
|argued that presidents couldn't be tried, that they're immune,
|that ex presidents can't be tried, and got back into the White
|House so they can be immune again, and have all the charges
|against them dropped. Staying out of prison is a powerful
|motivator
|u/ZedCee - 7 hours
|
|"We don’t need votes. We have to stop — focus, don’t worry about
|votes.” “You don’t have to vote. Don’t worry about voting. The
|voting — we got plenty of votes.”
|u/RedComet313 - 7 hours
|
|I mean, wouldn’t the simpler answer in this case be that the guy
|who was getting in trouble for election interference… interfered
|again?
|u/Scarbane - 5 hours
|
|It would be the simpler answer if there was a mountain of
|evidence, but there isn't a mountain of evidence. Trump won
|and I hate that, but we have to move on and figure out how to
|win voters over in the 2026 mid-terms. I'm not interested in
|conspiracy theories that "feel good" without evidence - that's
|MAGA behavior.
|u/ThePurpleKnightmare - 4 hours
|
|There is so much evidence! Elon Musk was cheating in broad
|daylight for everyone to see with his voter scam. Russian
|Bomb Threats and Burned Ballots DID HAPPEN. Factually, the
|only thing needed there is how much were vote totals
|effected by that. And the most unproven, but biggest source
|of cheating is likely the increase from .2% bullet ballots
|to 7%. That's an alarming change with no obvious explanation
|aside from **He Cheated** It's very provable by calling
|people up to question them about their votes, but the
|evidence is there and points strongly to a stolen election.
|Gaslight, Obstruct, Project. It's what they are known for
|and their credibility should be accepted as low because of
|it. Of course they would do that in this case too.
|u/xandrokos - 4 hours
|
|There is a mountain of evidence.
|https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941 It isn't a
|conspiracy theory and we can't find more evidence without an
|investigation. There is nothing wrong with doubting
|election results prior to them being verified. This isn't
|like 2020. Something is very, very, very wrong with the
|2024 election numbers and it isn't isolated cases either.
|Literally every state has major irregularities. Stop
|dismissing this out of hand without even looking at the
|information available. Stop telling people they are
|acting like MAGA.
|u/grarghll - 2 hours
|
|Stop putting four spaces after a sentence, you weirdo.
|u/ReverendDizzle - 5 hours
|
|What do you think is ultimately more simple... That Trump
|and company engaged in a degree of election fraud absolutely
|unheard of and in a fashion so perfectly clandestine that
|we're left just guessing it happened with no material evidence
|or... That the American public is, for the most part,
|profoundly ignorant, short sighted, reactionary, and primed to
|make poorly thought out choices with little regard for long
|term consequences? It is way, way easier to get 10 million
|morons to vote for you than it is to cast 10 million
|fraudulent votes.
|u/xandrokos - 4 hours
|
|Trump didn't need 10 million fraudulent votes. You really
|should look at the numbers. They don't make any sense
|whatsoever especially when compared to previous elections.
|Again Trump won the popular vote and all the swing states.
|This isn't normal. This isn't common. In fact it is
|unprecedented. Also people are forgetting about the
|Selzer poll in Iowa. She has called every election for the
|past 25+ years and her margin of error has never been more
|than 3-4%. This year she was off by like 15%. That
|alone should be ringing alarm bells. And before you
|dismiss all polls out of hand please educate yourself on
|Selzer's methodology. It is rock solid and why her poll
|tends to be accurate.
|u/juicyfizz - 7 hours
|
|Before 2016 I would have whole-heartedly agreed, but Jesus
|Christ are you paying attention to what’s going on at all?
|Reality isn’t “simple” anymore.
|u/xandrokos - 4 hours
|
|The numbers don't make any sense though and Trump and the GQP
|literally admitted they were going to cheat.
|u/ThePurpleKnightmare - 5 hours
|
|The simplest answer is actually that he cheated. There is
|overwhelming evidence for it even to the public eye. However
|voter apathy in 2024 is way less likely. I get what you're
|saying, Voter apathy in 2016, or 2020, would have made sense,
|there was a much smaller threat back then. There was no project
|2025, there was far less bigotry (despite still having a lot of
|bigotry) For many it really felt like if you ignored Politics
|in those years, it wouldn't affect you. However we were loud
|about this one. There is so much danger, and it was obvious
|people were going to die off this one. Of course majority still
|didn't vote, but as a reason for a Project 2025 win in 2024,
|Voter Apathy is a bad reason.
|u/Mini_Snuggle - 4 hours
|
|I'm not convinced people were apathetic. This was a high turnout
|election, not as high as COVID, but there were also reduced
|barriers specifically for the pandemic and mail in ballots sent
|to everyone in some states that election.
|u/johnjohn4011 - 7 hours
|
|Really weird indeed.
|u/cepheidvariable - 7 hours
|
|There is mounting evidence that maybe we didn't.
|u/johnjohn4011 - 7 hours
|
|Not surprising. It would be surprising if it turns out to make a
|difference though. Fingers crossed.....
|u/bagoink - 4 hours
|
|It shouldn't have even been close enough, though. That's the truly
|fucked up part. The polls were indicating it was a statistical
|tie for weeks leading up to the election.
|u/FourthLife - 5 hours
|
|There is no mounting evidence that we didn’t. Don’t be blueanon.
|u/xandrokos - 4 hours
|
|https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941
|https://freespeechforpeople.org/wp-
|content/uploads/2024/11/letter-to-vp-harris-111324.pdf
|Something is way fucking off.
|u/SaiyanKirby - 3 hours
|
|>https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941 You keep
|linking this, but all it is is a bunch of claims with no
|sources
|u/xandrokos - 4 hours
|
|We didn't. There isn't a chance in hell that Trump legitimately
|won the popular vote and all swing states not to mention all the
|other weirdness with election numbers in literally every single
|state. What is worse is literally no one is talking about it.
|u/J0E_Blow - 6 hours
|
|r/somethingiswrong2024 if nothing is done regarding election
|integrity prior to Trump taking office we'll never know what really
|happened and he'll have de facto legitimately won.. But at least on
|Reddit people are questioning the results. Not sure why Kamala and
|Biden have said pretty much nothing.
|u/Great-Hotel-7820 - 5 hours
|
|I’ll just say neither reality would surprise me in the slightest.
|u/jojointheflesh - 8 hours
|
|Lmao came here to say the same. Fucking can’t escape COVID, even
|nearly five years later
|u/Lazydude17 - 6 hours
|
|i will forever hate him for calling it “the invisible threat”
|undermining the whole situation, and more recently him giving russia
|our supplies
|u/lemonaintsour - 6 hours
|
|This also explains covid deniers and anti vaxxers
|u/itsl8erthanyouthink - 8 hours
|
|*We* didn’t do shit. *I* voted against him 6 times. *I* got vaccinated
|the moment I was able. *He* lied to them because Covid was bad for the
|economy and death was bad PR. *He* killed those Americans. For those
|of MAGA that’s survived, *he* caused lasting brain damage on those who
|listened to him when he said it “was just the flu”.
|u/prontish - 7 hours
|
|It might explain at least 7.5 million voters
|u/SilverBack88 - 6 hours
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|My thoughts exactly
|u/xandrokos - 4 hours
|
|This could be our generations version of lead poisoning.
|u/Counselor-Ug-Lee - 8 hours
|
|4D chess election interference
|u/Izenthyr - 4 hours
|
|This would also explain his increased insanity
|u/Stardust_Particle - 4 hours
|
|It might explain the word-salads and the weave we’ve all witnessed,
|which, seriously, are bizarre.
|u/pixel_of_moral_decay - 6 hours
|
|This has been known since early pandemic and the info keeps stacking up.
|I see it in coworkers. I’ve thought to myself multiple times “you used
|to be smarter”. One thing I noticed is a lot of “COVID pause”. When
|someone responds to a statement there’s this delay where they look like
|they want to talk but just can’t for a half second. My parents started
|after they got it, same with most people I know. I swear you can use a
|timer to tell who still hasn’t had Covid. The pause is a thing people
|stopped talking about but it’s still there.
|u/the_Demongod - 4 hours
|
|Yep that happens to me... it takes like 3 seconds for the information
|to start flowing
|u/dephress - 4 hours
|
|That's fascinating, but I don't think I've ever met anyone who
|displays the "covid pause," and most people I know have had it. We all
|seem to talk at the same rate with used to, including interrupting
|each other, talking too much, being quick to speak. I'll keep an eye
|out for this now that you've mentioned it but I don't think I've
|encountered an increase in verbal hesitation...
|u/Melodic-Head-2372 - 6 hours
|
|People that still do not have accurate taste smell.
|u/_JudgeDoom_ - 6 hours
|
|“To put the finding of the New England Journal of Medicine study into
|perspective, I estimate that a three-point downward shift in IQ would
|increase the number of U.S. adults with an IQ less than 70 from 4.7
|million to 7.5 million – an increase of 2.8 million adults with a level
|of cognitive impairment that requires significant societal support.”
|Wow, to think for just a moment about how horrible of a response we had
|to the pandemic here in the US and this sentiment probably won’t get any
|traction for years. If this is true then there is an untold amount extra
|health care cost associated with this and one person is mostly at fault
|for that.
|u/Gold_Scene5360 - 7 hours
|
|I’ve been doing fairly intensive brain exercises and I’m now about 85%
|back to normal, but for the first year and a half after I got Covid my
|memory and concentration were really bad.
|u/Razvedka - 7 hours
|
|What brain exercises do you recommend?
|u/OmegaAutarch - 7 hours
|
|Would you mind sharing what you did specifically to help with
|restoring functionality? I would appreciate it 🙏
|u/Gold_Scene5360 - 7 hours
|
|This is a great resource for memory: https://artofmemory.com Simply
|doing a daily crossword puzzle and sudoku is fun and beneficial. I
|also try to write short stories and play Tetris to keep my reaction
|time up. But probably the best thing you can do to improve
|cognitive function is to get a good night sleep, plenty of fresh air
|and exercise, socialize and much as you can, and eat well.
|u/johnnierockit - 8 hours
|
|I did a Bluesky tl;dr version including data from the two-year extensive
|stats if anyone wants to check it out just scroll through the whole
|thread it's a 2-3 minute read [https://bsky.app/profile/johnhatchard.bsk
|y.social/post/3lb4dbgnlqc24](https://bsky.app/profile/johnhatchard.bsky.
|social/post/3lb4dbgnlqc24) Mild/resolved COVID-19 cases: cognitive 3
|point IQ loss Unresolved symptoms such as fatigue or shortness of
|breath: cognitive 6 point IQ loss Intensive care unit COVID-19 cases: 9
|point IQ loss Reinfection with virus: 2 point IQ loss
|u/Esc777 - 8 hours
|
|I wonder how much of this is due to the virus itself or just pulmonary
|issues causing low oxygen to the brain? Because that seems really
|likely to me. But I bet real scientists know better.
|u/cyanescens_burn - 8 hours
|
|I recall seeing an article a while back that showed neural changes,
|one being fusion of CNS nerve cells. I’m not sure that happens from
|low O2 alone. Maybe it does, I’m no nerve scientist. If O2 gets low
|enough, I don’t see why what you are suggesting wouldn’t happen too.
|u/wyvernx02 - 6 hours
|
|I kept any eye on my O2 every time I caught covid and never saw a
|dip. I still came out the other end with worse cognitive function.
|u/Esc777 - 6 hours
|
|Well there you have it. That sucks I’m sorry.
|u/tabormallory - 8 hours
|
|The oxygen deprivation seems the most likely culprit. It can cause
|brain death shockingly fast.
|u/myasterism - 7 hours
|
|And this is part of why sleep apnea can cause or worsen adhd
|symptoms—and may explain why long-covid resembles ADHD for so many
|people
|u/Esc777 - 6 hours
|
|Bingo why I brought it up, as a person who suffers from sleep
|apnea and ADHD. I was literally killing my brain.
|u/DanKoloff - 4 hours
|
|I didn't experience any respiratory problem from Covid. I just had
|the lack of taste and smell for two weeks. No high body temperature,
|no cough, no sore throat, no muscle pain. After two weeks the taste
|and smell came back but I was left with brain fog and constantly
|muffled ears (which sometimes pop when I go to the mountains... so
|at least that is not exactly permanent damage).
|u/Sudden-Echo-8976 - 3 hours
|
|Cystic Fibrosis comes with some cognitive decline, but it's
|absolutely nothing like what is being relayed here. So my assumption
|would be next to nothing attributable to lack of oxygen. When lack
|of oxygen becomes dangerous for the brain, which is around O2 sats
|of 91%, they put people on supplemental oxygen. So anything that
|doesn't require supplemental oxygen is fine. This graph shows the
|relationship between resting O2 sats and cognitive decline in people
|with COPD. You can see that at 91% the cognitive decline still isn't
|terrible. [https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2939681/#f1-copd
|-5-263](https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2939681/#f1-copd-5-
|263)
|u/onepercentbatman - 6 hours
|
|I’ve had it three times and I don’t think I have had any cognative
|issues. I process at the same speed I feel I always have, and my
|deductive skills and creativity seem the same. What worries me is if
|there is a decline, would I notice due to the decline. My entire
|life, supporting my family, is 100% supported my intelligence. It is
|to the point that I do daily mental exercises to stay sharp. One
|thing I would add is that though 3 points might not sound like much,
|that is a lot the closer you get to the median and average. Going
|from 155 to 152 isn’t that much of a setback. Going from 110 to 107
|is.
|u/BustAMove_13 - 8 hours
|
|I had it for the first time in early October. The brain fog is real. I
|have an autoimmune, so my memory has suffered already, but now, it's
|really bad. My balance is out of whack since then, too.
|u/Roushfan5 - 6 hours
|
|I got sicker than a dog back in July. Never tested positive for COVID,
|but I could go down the list of symptoms and check every single one of
|them off. I've been struggling hardcore ever since. Thank fuck I've
|got a generous sick leave policy at work. I've probably missed a month
|of work over the last four and half months. Today was actually the first
|day I've felt normal in a long time.
|u/Manofmayonnaise - 6 hours
|
|After getting it I've noticed I have trouble remembering people's names
|at times. These are coworkers I see every day at work.
|u/Stardust_Particle - 4 hours
|
|You are not the only one. Scary stuff.
|u/sleepf0rtheweak - 7 hours
|
|I’m a nurse and ever since I got Covid a couple of years ago, I have
|severe trouble finding the right words and multi tasking is very taxing.
|When I’m done with the day, my mind is numb. I know it is Covid that has
|caused my severe cognitive decline. I tried to get help, as I also know
|I have ADHD. My lifetime of developed coping mechanisms are crumbling
|around me like a house of cards and I’m scared and frustrated. Tried to
|get diagnosed, but was “borderline” (again from trying to cope with my
|issues) and got no help.
|u/Nchi - 4 hours
|
|If you are female it's a double whammy as the 'inattentive' symptom is
|the bit you get more often and is also the least 'visible'. I'm
|vaguely trying to track how common it is for that type to struggle
|with typing and having a conversation simultaneously, might be
|something to show it better. Might be due to reading too, something is
|there to make a test one way or another I feel.
|u/Nuggethewarrior - 4 hours
|
|is this reversable? my vocabulary was impacted by covid as well, and
|im scared ill never regain it.
|u/DreadfulDemimonde - 6 hours
|
|This is why I still mask.
|u/XRT28 - 1 hour
|
|Aye same. For me it's just a no-brainer with how trivial it is to
|throw a good mask on when you're going to be spending time in any sort
|of crowded indoor environment. We're coming up on 5 years of it now
|and not only am I still COVID free(or at the absolute minimum it would
|have had to have been completely asymptomatic) but I also haven't
|gotten sick period in that time. And even if COVID magically ceased
|to exist honestly I'd probably still mask atleast throughout the
|winter months because of how much I've enjoyed not getting a cold/flu
|a couple times a season.
|u/Cubawabi - 6 hours
|
|I did my bachelor paper on this and most information I found point to
|the hypothalamus (chemical balance center & memory) as the most target
|part of the brain. Scary stuff
|u/Stardust_Particle - 4 hours
|
|Speaking of chemicals, I recommend everyone who is struggling with
|brain fog and memory to get a blood test for their thyroid just to
|rule it out. I have never gotten Covid but I take medicine to regulate
|my thyroid and some symptoms sound similar to what I experienced
|before I got diagnosed that my thyroid wasn’t functioning properly.
|u/verbal-acuity - 5 hours
|
|Reading these comments is refreshing to know I'm not alone. It's also
|really disheartening though and I feel for everyone going through it. I
|work in a childcare environment and the family members I live with also
|work in busy environments. Since the original COVID outbreak, I've
|gotten it 3 times. I'm 27 and I've almost cried recently thinking
|something is severely wrong with me because my memory has gotten
|terrible. It's to the point where I'm extremely concerned because I'll
|forget basic things regularly. For example, at work I'll often place
|something down and then a minute later forget that I even grabbed it or
|where I put it. This will happen multiple times a day usually. I used
|to have really great memory, like scary good. I don't think I'm at an
|age where my memory should already be going on this downwards slope. :/
|u/Lore_ofthe_Horizon - 5 hours
|
|Good think we fed a couple of million innocent people to it to dull its
|teeth and turn it into another constant companion of humanity, just like
|we did with the flu. Now we get to deal with all those nasty side
|effects for the REST OF HUMANITIES EXISTENCE.
|u/Boonzies - 8 hours
|
|I wonder if it's additive? COVID Case Count * [2.5...10]
|u/Minimalistmacrophage - 8 hours
|
|According to the study.. Yes.
|u/Boonzies - 8 hours
|
|That is terrible. I did some research in the early days on vascular
|damage. That too was bad news.
|u/momoenthusiastic - 7 hours
|
|Now, try to convince the “did my own research” crowd. Oh wait, they
|probably became dumber than most after several bouts of it.
|u/hansolo625 - 6 hours
|
|That’s why I’m still masking and have not gotten it once
|u/billgigs55 - 7 hours
|
|i definitely notice myself stumbling over words now unlike i did before
|covid, and im only 30. Does make you wonder.
|u/OmegaAutarch - 7 hours
|
|After getting it ONCE, I feel like my stress and anxiety went way up,
|and my brain function went through the floor. I'm having a hard time
|figuring out how to memorize and understand things like I used to.
|u/nospamkhanman - 6 hours
|
|For me I don't feel any "dumber" but I've noticed my short term memory
|is shit after my 2nd infection. I used to remember an IP address for
|basically an entire day when I was troubleshooting something. Now I
|don't even bother asking people for their ip address and just tell them
|to message me with it because I know I'll forget it in 30 seconds.
|u/PurpleDragonDix - 6 hours
|
|I tested positive 3 times throughout. The first time, I was asymptomatic
|and only tested positive because someone in my household got sick. The
|2nd and 3rd time, I had all the damn symptoms. The hospital turned me
|away both times, even when I thought my lungs would give out. I
|definitely feel slower, not as quick to comprehension. It sucks.
|u/khalaron - 6 hours
|
|Hits close to home. More than a few people I know suffered these
|symptoms.
|u/Thund3rMuffn - 5 hours
|
|I honestly noticed my typing skills just got trashedkgnsn after covid.
|Like typo afyer typo.
|u/gynoceros - 3 hours
|
|It's not just covid. It's anything that deprives your brain of oxygen.
|I've been in healthcare for over 22 years. Was in the ER for most of it,
|as a nurse for over ten now, so I've been at the bedside since before
|covid. I've been on a cardiothoracic ICU for almost a year now and see
|what people turn into after heart and lung surgeries where they were on
|bypass for hours (often meaning that brains didn't get everything they
|needed so that other vital organs could). It's not fucking pretty.
|Your moms, dads, grandparents? Sometimes those surgeons promise good
|outcomes and sometimes they deliver. Sometimes you're left with a
|shell of what you thought you were going to get. We have a huddle
|every morning where we go through some of these issues and we've got
|this one ambitious surgeon who tells us point blank: we do some of these
|surgeries on people who will die within a year but if we extend the life
|of one or two, it's worth it. Sometimes it means grandpa lives long
|enough to know his granddaughter walked the aisle. Sometimes the 43 year
|old dad gets to see his eldest off to freshman year of college. And
|sometimes the 53 year old guy who immigrated here to have a better life,
|had covid wreck his lungs, gets a transplant and develops a multi-drug
|resistant infection fuck everything up, and it takes nine months of
|constant fighting to finally end him. Or they have a stroke at 49
|because of everything we tried to do and they never regain either
|cognitive or motor function again. Or they're 60 and will lose a hand
|because that's just how it goes sometimes, and btw, they weren't that
|bright to begin with but now they also get confused at night and
|sometimes pull out their feeding tubes if you happen to be taking care
|of your other patient at the time. Tomorrow is a gift, not a promise.
|u/Predator_ - 8 hours
|
|The great dumbening commences. Such a great idea to put an anti-vaxx
|conspiracy theorist in charge of studying and combating such illnesses.
|/s 🤦♂️😑🙄
|u/xKingNothingx - 7 hours
|
|So THATS how the anti-vaxxers get even dumber.
|u/toadjones79 - 7 hours
|
|Finally. There were reports of this in 2020. And I've seen evidence of
|it since. The driving habits of people changed significantly for the
|dumber after lockdown (I commute a lot). Never forget that the whole
|world is dumber (including you and me).
|u/Neoliberal_Boogeyman - 4 hours
|
|Driving habits are a big one. People here blow through intersections
|at a level I never saw before 2019.
|u/BibliophileMafia - 5 hours
|
|I've continued to mask and haven't had a confirmed infection of covid
|(pretty sure I had it jan. of 2020) and I've really noticed the people
|around me, especially those who refuse to mask have really degraded over
|the last couple of years. Especially those who had more than 3
|infections. Also noticed those who have had multiple infections slowly
|get more and more aggressive.
|u/Thoraxe474 - 7 hours
|
|Still haven't gotten covid, but man am I worried for my kids just
|spending a life time catching this thing every now and then
|u/notaproctorpsst - 5 hours
|
|Please know that there are people who will never develop symptoms, but
|still be able to infect others. About 50% of infections are
|asymptomatic. So if you‘re not wearing a mask when sharing air with
|others, you might still bring it home and your kids might just be
|asymptomatic – until the long-term effects catch up. So please still
|wear a mask and don’t rely on whether you or others are symptomatic.
|u/mysecondaccountanon - 4 hours
|
|This is why yinz need to mask up. Seriously, how many here who in the
|top comments are saying they have experienced this are working to make
|sure it doesn’t happen again so it won’t actively get worse? I’m
|guessing not a lot. Wear a mask, N95 or higher is best. If you have
|trouble affording them, mask blocs may be able to help!
|u/trailrunner68 - 3 hours
|
|Second that: I still wear a mask in high contact places especially
|airports.
|u/SatansMoisture - 7 hours
|
|That might explain the recent America election.
|u/asianwaste - 5 hours
|
|A thing that I am scared of is whether or not long covid effects kick in
|when we get old. Imagine a whole generation 20-30 years from now
|getting random bouts of paralysis, strokes, losing sense of taste, and
|other observed effects from long covid.
|u/B33fboy - 5 hours
|
|As somebody who has not yet had Covid, I want to tell y’all that the
|little slips in memory you’re noticing are not just age. They are from
|Covid. I can tell based on my interactions doing customer service that
|people are, by and large, much more forgetful and have a much harder
|time finding the word they’re seeking. It’s not some little blip. It is
|a mass disabling event that is ripping through the population again and
|again.
|u/Socal-vegan - 4 hours
|
|Before Covid, my memories were sharp and I felt pretty smart. Post Covid
|(got it twice), I feel dumber. I can’t remember or retain information as
|much I used to. How the pandemic was handled pissed me off. A lot of
|this was preventable.
|u/kal0kag0thia - 6 hours
|
|Yeah, I build quality management systems for aerospace. I remember the
|structure of the system I created well, and I have checklists and
|schedules. I had those before. But, I'm just not quick with details
|anymore and high level meetings are the worst. I just try to prepare
|obvious answers before I go in, and stay as quiet as possible. I still
|get by, but what is crazy is it only took about 6 months to go from
|focused and reactive to barely hanging on. What's crazy is my skin aged,
|my eyes got worse and my body seems like somebody else's body. I'm not
|the self I remember from the six months prior. It's all just weird.
|u/ELpork - 6 hours
|
|Disability case, year 3. Yup. It gets worse as the day goes on. "Brain
|fog" is the term that get's thrown around a lot but it has other factors
|attached. Memory gets worse, word find gets worse, you tend to trail off
|during conversations, drifting from the main topic to something vaguely
|attached to something all together different. Not looking forward to
|what potential long term effects are going to end up being.
|u/TufftedSquirrel - 6 hours
|
|So this is weird for me. I've had it twice. The first time, I got
|horrible brain fog, and it lasted like 3 weeks. I felt like I couldn't
|put sentences together. It was so frustrating. The 2nd time I got covid,
|I got brain fog, but only while Iwas sick. Well, just recently I got the
|flu, and I got horrific brain fog while I was sick. I'm kind of
|wondering, it's this a permanent thing now? Am I going to be running at
|%40 intelligence every time I get sick now?
|u/DreadfulDemimonde - 6 hours
|
|Your immune system is damaged from the Covid, so it's possible that
|you will get sick more frequently and more severely than before.
|u/Drummal - 4 hours
|
|I caught it once and I can say 3 years later I can still feel the brain
|fog.
|u/Vanderlyley - 5 hours
|
|I take the Mensa Norway test every year to check for signs of cognitive
|decline. Pre-Covid, I consistently scored around 130. One year after
|contracting Covid, I scored around 115, which freaked me the fuck out.
|Two years later, I'm back to 130-ish. The disease certainly takes its
|toll. My sense of smell went back to normal very recently, and I had
|COVID back in 2021.
|u/Nisiom - 7 hours
|
|Tons of people already got significantly dumber when the lockdowns
|turned us into a perpetually online society. If the virus also had an
|effect on our brains, god help us. The rise of the potato brains is
|here.
|u/Dwashelle - 6 hours
|
|I've been having memory issues since I got it two years ago. I find it
|hard to remember words and names, like the names of actors or sometimes
|even people I know. I'm honestly terrified that this is permanent.
|Someone please give me reassurance, lol.
|u/Due_Smoke5730 - 6 hours
|
|Damn, I never have been ill with covid, (3 vaccines so far) but I had a
|concussion last year and my words have not been the same. Now I’m
|wondering if I did have covid and just never knew. I’m also 55 now so
|this combo of trama, age and possible covid brain is extra worrying to
|me.
|u/Prestigious_Fail3791 - 5 hours
|
|I got it either 3-4 times, and I believe once the year before. I had
|several strange side effects. 1. My dick didn't work properly for six
|months. My libido was completely gone and keeping erections was
|difficult. During this time, I had a terrible time falling asleep and
|numerous night terrors. Lots of sleep walking/seeing delusions. Most
|nights, I'd wake up gasping for air almost as if I had stopped
|breathing. It was scary. 2. I can't do any vigorous exercise without
|feeling like I'm going to fall over and die. Walks are fine, but any
|sort of bending/crouching/picking things up makes me dizzy and very
|tired. This past week, I cleaned up my office. Not a difficult job, but
|after a few hours, I felt like all of my energy was completely gone. It
|was as if I had climbed a mountain. I also have lingering leg
|pain/weakness. I also get very tired driving. 3. Attempting to recall
|names/thinking of specific words is difficult. Like I know what I want
|to say, but sometimes I literally can't think of the right words. Simple
|stuff. This was incredibly bad at first. To the point you would have
|thought I had a severe brain injury. Forming basic sentences was taxing.
|This is worse towards the end of the day. I'm fine in the mornings, but
|my mind is mush by mid day. I do a lot of computer editing and I often
|find myself forgetting processes after a couple of hours. Like my brain
|literally can't compute repetitive tasks more than a few hours. 4. I
|make music and rap. Covid completely changed the way I rap. Everyone has
|a signature sound. After covid, mine was completely changed. The tone,
|the flow, the patterns, everything is different. Since getting sick,
|I've created my absolute best work and what I consider the best rap
|album of all time. So even though my brain is probably destroyed, I at
|least have that. It's almost as if someone other than myself made it.
|It's weird to me that I can't think of words in general conversations,
|but I've somehow advanced as a song writer. It's almost as if I'm a
|completely different person. 5. Time appears to pass differently. Prior
|to any of this, I considered most days to pass incredibly slowly. Like I
|was intensely bored in most situations. After getting sick, I feel as if
|time passes 10x. Like an hour feels like 10 minutes. I have full days
|pass in what feels like a couple of hours. 6. I feel like my
|temperament/personality is different.
|u/PlaneShenaniganz - 5 hours
|
|I’ve had COVID 6 times and in my own anecdotal experience, everything
|has seemed to remain the same.
|u/fnafismylife - 5 hours
|
|Man I used to be a straight A student in high school. And now I’m about
|to fail out of my first SEMESTER of college and I seriously don’t know
|what’s changed. I’ve had COVID about 3 times (maybe 4 but we didn’t have
|any tests at the time) and I swear I’m still studying and going to class
|and all the other important stuff but I keep failing tests and
|assignments. I’m genuinely freaking out because my father offered to pay
|for my college in full and if I fail I don’t know how I could ever face
|him. Something has happened and I’m definitely way stupider than I used
|to be.
|u/tara1245 - 4 hours
|
|It looks like there may be some theoretical protection from
|vaccination?If this works the same way in humans. >Up to 25% of
|individuals infected with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus
|2 (SARS-CoV-2) exhibit postacute cognitive sequelae. Although millions
|of cases of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)-mediated memory
|dysfunction are accumulating worldwide, the underlying mechanisms and
|how vaccination lowers risk are unknown. Interleukin-1 (IL-1), a key
|component of innate immune defense against SARS-CoV-2 infection, is
|elevated in the hippocampi of individuals with COVID-19. Here we show
|that intranasal infection of C57BL/6J mice with SARS-CoV-2 Beta variant
|leads to central nervous system infiltration of Ly6Chi monocytes and
|microglial activation. Accordingly, SARS-CoV-2, but not H1N1 influenza
|virus, increases levels of brain IL-1β and induces persistent
|IL-1R1-mediated loss of hippocampal neurogenesis, which promotes
|postacute cognitive deficits. Vaccination with a low dose of adenoviral-
|vectored spike protein prevents hippocampal production of IL-1β during
|breakthrough SARS-CoV-2 infection, loss of neurogenesis and subsequent
|memory deficits. Our study identifies IL-1β as one potential mechanism
|driving SARS-CoV-2-induced cognitive impairment in a new mouse model
|that is prevented by vaccination.
|https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-024-01868-z
|u/Mindshard - 4 hours
|
|My right wing employer and his family went around intentionally
|spreading COVID that first year before the vaccines, to prove it was
|"just a cold". I caught it before I knew they were sick or what they
|were doing. I had brain fog for a long time, but either I've gotten
|used to it, or it passed. The thing I've never read about is that when
|I got it, my sense of smell went through the roof. At first it was
|overwhelming, everything smelled just way too strong. I've gotten used
|to it, but years later it's still just a strong now. Sometimes it's kind
|of interesting, a lot of other times it's not fun (people, ya'll need to
|wash yourselves better!). I was incredibly sick, and at first thought
|it wasn't even COVID, because I was expecting to lose my sense of smell,
|not have it cranked up to 11. It's interesting, and almost a party
|trick at times, but mostly it feels like I used a monkey paw to wish for
|a superpower.
|u/wanderingartist - 4 hours
|
|Well that would explain why people voted for the mango Mussolini.
|u/prosperosniece - 4 hours
|
|That explains the tRump victory
|u/Command0Dude - 2 hours
|
|This is a depressing article to read, because I had symptoms which
|correlate to a loss of 6 IQ and I have had a noticeable harder time at
|work since I had covid, even years later.
|u/15637289minutes - 1 hour
|
|I had COVID in 2020 and have 2 boosters. I think I used to read books
|regularly and gain understanding of the ideas almost quickly. Now I have
|to read a paragraph at least twice because I feel like my brain is just
|"floating". I'm just 30. Also, I'm not sure if it's just life in
|general or the world's getting worse, but I really have a hard time
|feeling optimistic. I go to concerts, meet new friends, etc. but nah,
|it's all bleak at the end of the day. And I don't even like that I
|perceive things that way. It's like a black hole sucking everything that
|comes its way.
|u/cagriuluc - 34 minutes
|
|Is this how Trump was re-elected?
|u/L0B0_L0K0 - 7 hours
|
|This perfectly explains how trump got elected....again
|u/tgwill - 7 hours
|
|Explains this months politics
|u/Naps_and_cheese - 7 hours
|
|Can confirm. I struggle with math and remembering numbers a lot now. It
|takes me a few beats longer to understand things at work when I used to
|just look at something and know what's going on. Frustrating. Really
|fucked with my career. My trajectory really stopped going up after I
|had covid. Twice.
|u/DC_Mountaineer - 8 hours
|
|Idiocracy is happening
|u/Orstio - 7 hours
|
|It stands to reason that since the way memory works, that a virus could
|affect it. https://www.chemistryworld.com/features/how-a-virus-
|ancestor-powers-our-memorys-chemistry/4014148.article A viral infection
|in early organisms is probably what introduced the original genes that
|allow for memory.
|u/Matty_D47 - 7 hours
|
|I definitely believe it, we have gotten collectively dumber since the
|pandy
|u/infinus5 - 6 hours
|
|I ve had covid multiple times, the last two times gave me the "brain
|fog" symptom and it's never gone away. It makes doing major hikes or my
|professional work a chore without pain killers.
|u/BdubH - 6 hours
|
|I only got Covid once but I feel as though my memory isn’t as sharp. I
|never had a great memory to begin with but at times it feels as though
|I’m forgetting things just told to me. Thankfully I’m still able to
|gauge my intelligence relatively easy, I’m able to keep up with my
|graduate studies easily and make progress on research and assignments
|without getting lost. Still, it’s scary to think I could had lost
|something I never realized I had lost to begin with Terrifying even
|u/hummingbirds_R_tasty - 6 hours
|
|had low grade brain fog since i had it
|u/FlailingIntheYard - 6 hours
|
|Tell me about it. I caught it 3 times in a year and I most def can tell
|something hasn't been right since. I feel like I aged 20 years.
|u/jugo5 - 6 hours
|
|No doubt It has made me unable to find my words a lot more.
|u/F-Cloud - 5 hours
|
|I'm definitely less intelligent than before and my short-term memory has
|suffered greatly. I often feel like I have no idea what I'm doing from
|one moment to the next. People ask me to do things and I say okay, turn
|around, and it's gone.
|u/theobrienrules - 5 hours
|
|Explains the election results.
|u/NimbleNavigator19 - 5 hours
|
|I had covid 4 times during its hey day. And while my lungs and heart are
|now perpetually fucked, I've become some kind of savant when it comes to
|technical design. Whereas before I'd need go spend days or weeks
|reviewing stuff to know how to fix a problem now I can do it in about 5
|minutes. Sure I may be dumber and have a very high likelihood of dying
|in the next 5-10 years, but I'm earning shareholders a hell of alot of
|money in the meantime.
|u/Mountain-Video5104 - 5 hours
|
|I call them dementia spasms. Mid conversation I’ll forget the point I
|was trying to make, or where I was taking the conversation.
|u/Worldly_Client_7614 - 4 hours
|
|I was an education worker hospitalised with Covid 19 & double pneumonia.
|My health went to absolute shit going from 180 to 110 pounds as a 6 foot
|male, endured a four day coma & felt various side effects over the 4
|week period. I stupidly rushed myself back to work as i was still a
|year one and my manager informed me he could terminate my contract if i
|was off ill. I had to leave my job as i physically & mentally couldn't
|do it. Years on i still don't feel as intelligent or able to constraint.
|I'm now homeless. Covid put me through the absolute ringer.
|u/FarceMultiplier - 4 hours
|
|We know - Trump got elected.
|u/thunderwhenyounger - 4 hours
|
| This explains a lot about the recent election.
|u/lucksh0t - 4 hours
|
|Idk if im just stupid or an im approaching 30 thing but i do somtimes
|have trouble finding words.
|u/tremble01 - 4 hours
|
|After Covid I need to really be intentional with how I organize my
|thoughts. I started really doing my daily planner and note taking more
|seriously because I would not be able to hold thoughts well.
|u/AThiccBahstonAccent - 4 hours
|
|I've always felt so sad at this loss. It's not big, I don't feel stupid
|all of a sudden, but I feel just a little less quick. It feels like
|something I won't get back. I have a lot more moments of forgetfulness.
|u/robaroo - 4 hours
|
|the election results make sense all of a sudden...
|u/twelveparsnips - 4 hours
|
|well, that explains my boss who has proudly had it 4 times.
|u/Tvirus2020 - 4 hours
|
|Obviously this is true here in America especially. Look what has
|happened.
|u/jasikanicolepi - 4 hours
|
|Is that why so many people voted red?
|u/81Z83RR7 - 3 hours
|
|I feel like I have gum in the gears of my brain ever since. It’s
|terrifying.
|u/mandy009 - 3 hours
|
|I got it once last year. second sickest I've ever been. First sickest
|was when I thought I had the flu in early February 2020 and the
|president at the time denied it was here. After the second time I feel
|much dumber, and I made one of the dumbest lapses in technique in my
|life with something I've been doing for a decade. I don't doubt it.
|u/Jasonguyen81 - 3 hours
|
|That explains why Trump won again
|u/Legacyx1 - 3 hours
|
|I’m 26, I got hit by Covid and can tell that my memory and cognitive
|skills have significantly dropped dramatically
|u/Elqott - 3 hours
|
|I used to have a great memory, now I'm forgetting shit all the time
|u/DueDay7528 - 3 hours
|
|So that's what happened to the red states. Now it makes sense.
|u/Right-Many-9924 - 3 hours
|
|I mean yeah, lol. Pre having Covid, I went from knowing how the pieces
|move to 1200 ELO on chess.com in like six months. Now I’ve had Covid
|like five times, I’m down below 800 ELO, and have basically just given
|up 🫠
|u/jDub549 - 3 hours
|
|After 3 bouts of it I can confidently say I am a tad bit dumber than I
|was. :(
|u/whereiskin - 3 hours
|
|This would help explain why Trump got elected again..
|u/IdiocracyIsHereNow - 2 hours
|
|The random forgetfulness and mixing things up was getting progressively
|worse for me over the duration of like 2 years after I had COVID, but
|now suddenly it's going the other way. It took THAT long for it to even
|begin getting better, but it's getting noticeably better now. Reading
|helps, word games help, learning a new language helps, just exercising
|your brain and trying new things slowly helps over time. I think it
|mostly recovers. In some ways I'm still growing a lot over my old self
|mentally, but still get random little bits of forgetfulness that are
|very unlike me, but I'm not dwelling on it as much now because I can
|tell it's finally starting to noticeably improve after 2 years. *also
|try doing cardio workouts for a while. That seems to help recovery a
|bit.
|u/Soft-Distance503 - 2 hours
|
|No wonder. I am just 25 and already 'joking' with my friends how old age
|has come sooner for me. I forget basic things. I used to be so sharp, my
|memory was very clear. Now it's all foggy
|u/vulgardisplay76 - 2 hours
|
|Ugh. I don’t even know how much time I spent wandering around my kitchen
|because I’d just forget why the hell I was even in there. I’d go back
|upstairs and remember, go back and wander around again, over and over
|again! So frustrating. I had to get a whiteboard on my fridge because
|I could not for the life of me remember what time I last took ibuprofen
|and Tylenol for the brutal headaches I’d have. Usually I could at least
|remember being at the medicine cabinet at some point during the day but
|nope. Complete blank. Went back to work and I shit you not, out of
|nowhere I forgot how to *read*. It was just jumbled, foreign characters
|on a page and it scared the ever loving shit out of me. I still don’t
|remember things like I used to Granted I’m not super young anymore
|either but it’s noticeably worse after Covid. I definitely feel a little
|dumber and can’t retain things short term almost at all.
|u/bluemufin - 1 hour
|
|I literally cannot remember most of my life anymore. I used to be able
|to recall almost anything, but after getting COVID 4 times, I feel dumb
|as fuck. I never needed notes on tests, calendars to remember dates and
|appointments… this shit sucks. I’m only in my 20’s!! Masked up, got my
|shots.. no good. Can’t think properly anymore and it makes me so goddamn
|frustrated every time
|u/FuckKarmeWhores - 56 minutes
|
|It's all making sense now! The anti vaccine campaign was a long game
|played to win the 2024 election!!!
|u/SwingsetGuy - 53 minutes
|
|Yeah, I definitely felt dumber after getting it back in the day. It was
|like an overdrive was suddenly gone; I just couldn't put that extra
|mental oomph into things when I really needed to do so. The worst part
|is that it's been a few years and while I don't notice a problem as
|much, I think it's less that I'm getting better and more that I'm just
|forgetting what it used to be like. This is my new normal.
|u/AIgavemethisusername - 50 minutes
|
|This is me. I feel like my intellect is shouting from underneath a
|duvet, my general thoughts are getting through, but nowhere near as
|clearly as they were before. Like my brain has been muffled.
|u/thegooniegodard - 36 minutes
|
|We know this after the last American election.
|u/Phemto_B - 15 minutes
|
|That explains why the red states got redder in the last election.
|u/GebeTheArrow - 7 hours
|
|" There are limitations to the study conducted by Hampshire and
|colleagues. The study was based on an engagement survey; hence, there
|may be a degree of response and ascertainment bias, such that either
|more persons with long Covid may have opted to enroll and that persons
|who were sick and had disability would not participate in the surveys."
|So people who feel like they have impairments can decide to enroll willy
|nilly. Not randomized whatsoever. Who's going to enroll in this if
|they've had COVID and have no issues? Practically nobody. There are
|so many flaws with this study. How NEJM publish something like this is
|pathetic.
|u/drdildamesh - 7 hours
|
|Jokes on you covid, I was already a dumbass.
|u/Horror-Layer-8178 - 8 hours
|
|Yeahhhhh...........That could explain some things
|u/Sidzed4 - 7 hours
|
|Yeah well maybe that’s how you end up with Trump 2024
|u/Conqueefadore1 - 7 hours
|
|it explains maga and refusal to mask
|u/cood101 - 7 hours
|
|Having brain farts and not being able to recall things 100% on demand is
|my life already. I can't say COVID has had any noticeable effects on me
|that couldn't be explained by other means. Granted the times where
|COVID has affected me have been whilst having ADHD-I, Trauma brain, and
|other negative brain affecting things. The speed of recall I have
|varies. Some days it's rapid fire, some days it's slow. Unfortunately I
|can't quantify it.
|u/gwarmachine1120 - 7 hours
|
|So all the low-IQ anti vaxxers are even dumber now
|u/JokersGal08 - 7 hours
|
|I'm in my fifth bout of covid right now. I feel like my memory is bad,
|immediate recall is terrible. I feel like I can't retain information,
|which has made my job more difficult for me.
|u/DreadfulDemimonde - 6 hours
|
|Please consider wearing a mask, if you aren't already.
|u/notaproctorpsst - 5 hours
|
|So… how many of y’all confirming that this has been noticeable for
|yourselves are wearing masks in everyday life now when sharing air with
|others?
|u/struggleLOLL - 8 hours
|
|Damn now it makes sense.
|u/BoosterRead78 - 7 hours
|
|My memory was hit after I hit it in 2022. Not as aspect as I was for
|years. Stress didn’t help either.
|u/Leslehhx3 - 7 hours
|
|Yeah I felt this but doctors just keep denying It.
|u/Tobestik - 6 hours
|
|I'm sure I've gotten it twice and I can tell my memory has worsened. My
|short term memory is much worse than it was.
|u/SJMCubs16 - 6 hours
|
|That does explain some things...
|u/MiniNuka - 5 hours
|
|I don’t feel like the same person anymore. Life is harder, but I don’t
|know if it’s me or the world. I’m struggling to keep up with it all.
|u/TheMemeticist - 5 hours
|
|I've literally been trying to tell me this for years, that it's not some
|benign flu and that they should take some caution but I've been treated
|like I'm nuts because it hasn't been shared in MSM
|u/stinkylibrary - 5 hours
|
|Seriously wondering if microdosing psilocybin would fix this for
|everyone...
|u/Trash-Takes-R-Us - 5 hours
|
|Yay I love having a new thing to be anxious about right before bed. I've
|definitely noticed myself getting slower or less clever. Granted I'm
|more willing to say that's caused by excessive alcohol use on the
|weekends
|u/Funkiermeat01 - 5 hours
|
|19 and I’ve never had so many brain farts in my life. I’ve had Covid 3
|times…but maybe it’s just my young brain. Idk.
|u/bloatedlemon - 5 hours
|
|I've thought about this for a while. I feel like people around me are
|just getting dumber. I'm not incredibly intelligent but sometimes I feel
|like I'm smarter than some of those people who I know are well above my
|level. I know I'm not getting smarter so the only solution is they're
|getting dumber right?
|u/xandrokos - 5 hours
|
|My brain is absolutely fried after getting covid 3 times and has been
|causing me major issues.
|u/Accomplished-Pie-206 - 5 hours
|
|That would explain a lot of things that we have seen the last 4 years.
|u/Slug_core - 5 hours
|
|I legitimately have felt significantly slower since covid. Not dumber
|just slower
|u/Wild_Butterscotch977 - 5 hours
|
|Finally an explanation for what happened on nov 5
|u/Raspberries-Are-Evil - 5 hours
|
|As if society can afford to get any dumber.
|u/mr_spock9 - 4 hours
|
|Already feel dumb from cell phone use/social media, but I guess this is
|another thing I can blame it on, lol. Had it four times and definitely
|felt the physical effects for months afterward during exercise, etc; not
|surprised there are cognitive effects as well.
|u/Xerxes_Generous - 4 hours
|
|I had it twice, and I feel fine. One of the YouTube channel I used to
|visit, Science Girl, the female host got Long COVID, which left her
|permanently fucked up. That's scary.
|u/Prankstaboy6 - 4 hours
|
|Yeah, it does seem like we’re getting dumber as a society.
|u/JimNasium123 - 4 hours
|
|I wonder if it’s going to be the lead paint/leaded gasoline of our
|generation.
|u/Low_Pickle_112 - 4 hours
|
|Thank God we focused on what was really important when it was at it's
|worst: making line go up and ensuring that landlords were happy.
|u/ConsequenceLucky518 - 4 hours
|
|That’s why so many people voted for Trump?
|u/haystackneedle1 - 4 hours
|
|I thought it was the weed
|u/futureformerteacher - 4 hours
|
|That explains how fucking stupid this country is in 2024.
|u/againfaxme - 4 hours
|
|So did Trump purposely bungle COVID so America would get dumb enough to
|elect him again?
|u/14with1ETH - 4 hours
|
|Fish oil has helped me tremendously in this. I highly recommend if
|anyone gets brain fog immediately start taking it daily.
|u/That80sguyspimp - 4 hours
|
|Ive never had covid. This must be why I feel like Im surrounded by
|dummies lately... :D
|u/tapwater86 - 4 hours
|
|That explains the election
|u/teknomedic - 4 hours
|
|Trump winning a 2nd term beginning to make some sense.
|u/fitechs - 4 hours
|
|Is that why Trump won?
|u/Dextermorgan93 - 4 hours
|
|Conspiracy theorist gonna have a field day w this one
|u/ichabod01 - 4 hours
|
|are we looking at us election results???
|u/Melonpan_Pup442 - 3 hours
|
|As someone with ADHD post covid brain fog and memory problems ,feel*
|different. I forget basic things like words a lot, and everything is a
|bit slower than I used to be. It sucks.
|u/Round-Antelope552 - 3 hours
|
|It would explain a lot
|u/Ok-Drawing-1912 - 3 hours
|
|Wow... this explains a lot of things since I got it.
|u/Ashamed_Job_8151 - 3 hours
|
|I have all kinds of issue stemming from Covid, but the particular brain
|issue that popped up right after getting it the first time is that I
|have an inability to remember names. Like if we are having a
|conversation about movies and o think of an actor I want to bring up I
|immediately lose it and it takes awhile to find it again. I know who I’m
|thinking of but I just can’t remember who they are all of sudden. It’s
|really weird. Honestly thats been the least of my post covid issues. I
|f’n hate covid.
|u/mygallows - 3 hours
|
|Had Covid about 2 years ago, definitely noticed that my memory and train
|of thought have weakened. It’s concerning because I’m 23, and I’ve
|always been pretty sharp.
|u/hurklesplurk - 2 hours
|
|Thank fuck I didn't get it then
|u/ItzFeufo - 2 hours
|
|That explains the recent election results...
|u/Wallace-Pumpernickel - 2 hours
|
|Wow, it's scary how fragile the human body is... Does anyone know if the
|brain fog disappears with time?
|u/Westerosi_Expat - 2 hours
|
|Some individuals recover in weeks or months, while others take years.
|I've had long covid since August 2020. I experienced a precipitous
|drop in clarity, concentration, memory, and other cognitive
|functioning as a result, and have yet to see any significant
|improvement after all this time.
|u/G36 - 2 hours
|
|Ever since covid my writing is fucked up like I mix words that sounds
|the same for some reason when writing
|u/ConflatedPortmanteau - 2 hours
|
|Me don't think this true. Me have covid twice and me stil sharp az
|attack.
|u/DrewzerB - 2 hours
|
|Explains the political landscape
|u/CowboyNeale - 2 hours
|
|Welp that explains a lot about the way society is going these days
|u/Cr1ms0nSlayer - 1 hour
|
|well it does make sense with all the shit happening since 2020 lmao
|u/gmotelet - 1 hour
|
|Finally a believable explanation for 2024 election results
|u/deityblade - 1 hour
|
|I have a lot more trouble focusing these days. Could just be tik tok
|brainrot though lol
|u/nocountryforcoldham - 43 minutes
|
|Establishing causality between covid iq drop and voting for trump would
|be seriously hilarious
|u/Renmarkable - 36 minutes
|
|honestly I cannot urge people strongly enough to mask up. Quite simply,
|it's our best protection
|u/Old-Lemon6558 - 18 minutes
|
|thank you china for this one
|u/ManiacalMartini - 18 minutes
|
|This would explain why so many people forgot Trump's first term and re-
|elected him.
|