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|u/polishprince76 - 9 hours
|
|It's honestly shocking how bad an internet search has become. Just
|mountains of garbage before you get to an answer remotely close to what
|you need.
|u/Uchihagod53 - 8 hours
|
|I honestly can't remember the last time I've had to go to page 2 on
|a Google search.
|u/rarestakesando - 7 hours
|
|Half the time the answer they direct me too eventually that
|actually helps is you guessed it right here on Reddit.
|u/thatryanguy82 - 7 hours
|
|I've long since gotten into the habit of adding "reddit" to any
|google search when I'm looking for the answer to a question.
|u/TooStrangeForWeird - 6 hours
|
|That's why Google bought Reddit data to use for their AI.
|Unfortunately it doesn't understand jokes or sarcasm, hence
|the "put Elmer's glue in the cheese so it doesn't slide off
|the pizza" incident.
|u/yttakinenthusiast - 5 hours
|
|also **cock**roaches.
|u/TheEyeDontLie - 4 hours
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|Google bought cockroaches. Cockroaches are the best pizza
|topping.
|u/NightLordsPublicist - 4 hours
|
|What a lovely day for a lobotomy.
|u/yttakinenthusiast - 4 hours
|
|can't say i blame you. that AI-gen answer made my skin
|crawl.
|u/LeftieDu - 4 hours
|
|This one might have came from a genuine tip for food
|photography.
|u/TARandomNumbers - 6 hours
|
|Don't say it out loud bro
|u/BlacksmithSolid645 - 5 hours
|
|I've looked for something and landed on reddit and read a post
|and it was my comment I've made to someone else asking the same
|question years prior
|u/n8mo - 7 hours
|
|Me neither. But, increasingly, I have to go to the 5th or 6th
|result to find something that isn't an advert or AI generated blog
|garbage. At this point I just add *"reddit.com"* to every search.
|If reddit's native search function wasn't so bad, I might never
|google again tbh.
|u/External-into-Space - 7 hours
|
|Even better, add sites:reddit.com *shows just reddit results,
|mostly better then searching on reddit itself*
|u/Mental_Tea_4084 - 6 hours
|
|Search operators are rapidly dying too. AND and NOT and their
|counterparts + and - are just suggestions these days, not
|rules. Quotations are the same. I was looking up a laptop by
|model number today and even putting it in quotes I was getting
|random garbage that was only similarly spelled but completely
|irrelevant
|u/orthogonius - 6 hours
|
|I really miss the NEAR operator that either Altavista or Ask
|Jeeves had. One word or phrase near another, like within 10
|words or something. I forget the exact parameters
|u/mellowanon - 6 hours
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|if I search and it's not on the first page, I reword my search to
|get different results. Or I just put "reddit" in the search and
|see what reddit results pops up. Too many websites are SEO bait
|and are worthless.
|u/JetAmoeba - 7 hours
|
|Ya, if it’s not on page 1 I refine my search and try again
|u/AustinTheFiend - 5 hours
|
|I've had many instances where I have to scroll all the way to
|the bottom of the page and tell it to stop filtering out similar
|results, as searches regarding very specific game engine bugs
|usually result in like 3 threads talking about the exact same
|problem that's not what I'm facing, whereas the useful
|information tends to be deemed redundant and gets filtered out.
|It'd be nice if all that wasted space filled with ads (and even
|more galling) completely irrelevant web pages just had a couple
|more of those redundant results included.
|u/Bunkerman91 - 8 hours
|
|Found the conservative
|u/General_Mars - 4 hours
|
|I might be the only one this also annoys, but it used to be that you
|could save the preference for 100 results per page. The continuation
|of results was just the further you went the less relevant the
|results would be - to the engine at least. Sometimes though because
|of keywords it could yield interesting results. Now it continually
|resets or gaslights you to 25-50 results and it’ll show more pages
|exist and then as you progress it just ends
|u/DarkbladeShadowedge - 3 hours
|
|It’s so annoying when you google something and all the results are
|just articles rehashing the same answer. This happens a lot when I
|look up a question to a video game. One guy writes a guide or
|something, and 6 others will just copy paste it onto their website.
|I understand there’s only so many ways to answer a question, but
|it’s word for word, and sometimes I’m looking for a certain detail
|that isn’t addressed.
|u/drunk_responses - 3 hours
|
|To find things these days, you not only have to keep adding
|-"website.addess" to searches, you also have to exclude the last two
|years from results. Or you'll end up with 90% AI written "articles",
|that are the forty versions of the same paragraph worded slightly
|differently, all made within the last two years or so. On top of
|that, they're still struggling to tune their AI interpretation layer
|on search queries. So it will tell you that it found no results, for
|a page they find if you add or remove a word.
|u/nanoH2O - 1 hour
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|And AI finds the wrong answer for you, making it even easier. When you
|search in google the first thing you see is a concise and very
|convincing answer generated by AI.
|u/boa_instructor - 3 hours
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|That's why I just put "reddit" at the end of any question for google
|u/Darkhoof - 55 minutes
|
|There's more and more sponsored fake reviews on Reddit though.
|u/tert_butoxide - 8 hours
|
|From the actual scientific article abstract, emphasis mine-- > Search
|advertising involves the purchasing of an ad’s position at the top of a
|search engine results page and accounts for more than 40% of all digital
|ad spending in the United States. Nevertheless, consumers are more
|likely to click on organic links found below search ads—a phenomenon
|referred to as the search ad avoidance effect. Combining system
|justification and construal level theory, a politically identifiable
|segment of consumers is argued to counter this effect. **Because
|individuals with a conservative (vs. liberal) political orientation tend
|to justify systemic processes**, they are more likely to trust sponsored
|versus organic marketing communications. Across four studies (secondary
|data, surveys, online field experiment), conservatives (vs. liberals)
|are more likely to click on search ads because **they perceive them as
|more trustworthy**. This relationship is most prevalent when consumers
|conduct broad searches, activating an abstract search construal that
|relies on a thinking style consistent with one’s core ideological
|beliefs and values. However, both conservatives and liberals are equally
|likely to click on search ads when they conduct more specific searches,
|activating a concrete search construal that enables a thinking style
|that is context-dependent and therefore diverges from one’s core beliefs
|and values. So my understanding of that is basically that conservatives
|are more likely to trust the existing system to provide what they're
|looking for, whereas liberals are more skeptical, doubting, or
|questioning of this service. In this case the existing system is search
|ad sponsorship. Maybe there are parallels to other things though. Do you
|have faith in traditional social, political, economic systems and think
|those systems are to the benefit of people like you?-- and do you think
|your trustworthy search platform is trying to give you helpful or useful
|ads based on its best interpretation of your query? Or do you question
|the methods and motives of those systems, thinking that they were built
|to enrich others at your expense?-- and think that your search program
|is forcefeeding you unwanted and unhelpful ads for someone else's
|profit?
|u/P0pu1arBr0ws3r - 6 hours
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|It does sound like this study can make connections beyond search
|results. I think if a similar study were performed with modern media
|similar results could be found, where conservatives would be more
|trusting of conservative media and liberals more skeptical of liberal
|media, and perhaps conservative media being designed to reduce
|cognitive load (possibly to increase attention to less informed folk).
|If anything, a simple study like this could be expanded to answer how
|the modern political climate is so divided and opposing as it is
|today, and why theres reports of voters regretting or being uninformed
|when they voted in the recent election.
|u/BraveAddict - 4 hours
|
|I've heard it said that conservative media often spoon feeds pre-
|chewed food to the republicans at home.
|u/Skwiish - 2 hours
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|Next time some historical event happens, pay attention to how long
|it takes for there to be contrarian discourse about it online.
|There’s usually a bit of a lag because they haven’t been told how
|to feel yet.
|u/Crammucho - 5 hours
|
|Surely there are other factors at play here, this seems to be a very
|narrow scope leaning into a specific reasoning. Couldn't age be a
|factor, older crowds being more conservative and having less/later
|experiences with Internet. Do conservatives maybe in general utilize
|Internet search less and have less precise experience with best
|choices of search results..
|u/EredarLordJaraxxus - 1 hour
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|I was going to say, The older someone is the less tech literate they
|are, And the less likely they are to realize that the first or
|second option on a Google search is most likely an ad.
|u/Bubudel - 2 hours
|
|>conservatives are more likely to trust the existing system to provide
|what they're looking for This doesn't apply to science though.
|Apparently conservatives are fine with trusting politicians and big
|corporations, but draw the line at highly educated people who dedicate
|their life to the betterment of the human condition.
|u/Richard-Brecky - 54 minutes
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|They’ve got a whole different “system” of broadcasters and pundits
|and influencers that was set up to tell them that the scientists are
|corrupt and wrong. Their system exposes the secret truth about the
|science, and all us idiots are still in the dark.
|u/boofjoof - 3 hours
|
|I like this explanation. I was thinking it was weird for conservatives
|to be more trusting since they seem pretty distrusting of the status
|quo lately, but it does make sense that if you live in a system that
|caters to people like you, you aren't going to be as quick to wonder
|if people actually have your best interest at heart.
|u/-Wylfen- - 2 hours
|
|>**Because individuals with a conservative (vs. liberal) political
|orientation tend to justify systemic processes**, they are more likely
|to trust sponsored versus organic marketing communications. Does the
|study actually prove that point or is that conjecture? Because
|intuitively, I'd just assume that older people are more conservative
|*and* happen to also blindly trust technology.
|u/Eternal_Being - 9 hours
|
|There's evidence that if you give conservatives an external incentive,
|they are almost as effective at logical reasoning as liberals. They
|tend to not value logical reasoning as much as liberals, which is why
|they do it less often (and is possible why they're slightly less
|effective when they do do it). It's largely a matter of incentives,
|rooted in cultural ways of thinking. So 'less cognitively demanding'
|is a pretty apt phrase. Conservatives seem just less likely to go
|through the cognitive strain of reasoning. There are benefits to such
|an approach, and drawbacks.
|u/sirhoracedarwin - 8 hours
|
|"cognitive strain of reasoning?" This sounds like they don't like to
|*think*.
|u/chrltrn - 8 hours
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|It's exactly that, but why do you make it seem like some alien
|concept? Guaranteed, at some point today, you made some decision
|that mightve been suboptimal because you didn't want to bother to
|put more thought into it than you did. Thinking takes time,
|afterall
|u/Tbagmoo - 8 hours
|
|I'm really enjoying your reframing of the issue. It's some good
|food for thought. Thank you
|u/Montana_Gamer - 7 hours
|
|The research that has been going on regarding political thought
|has been very validating to this explanation. Irrationality,
|believe it or not, is so often done from the perception of
|behaving rationally. I cannot imagine going through my life
|living like that, at the same time the appeal to it is quite
|clear.
|u/RealisticIllusions82 - 7 hours
|
|And energy. And likely why liberals are less happy overall, from
|what I’ve seen. Thinking all the time tends to make one
|depressed.
|u/adamdoesmusic - 7 hours
|
|Opening this app… several times a day… and hours disappear.
|u/Stripe_Show69 - 5 hours
|
|They think, but they think the wrong things. There is no threshold
|their reasoning has to meet. If it sounds good, it must be true.
|Never mind abandoning Ukraine could lead to an invasion of more
|countries. All they see is that right now we’re giving them money
|their groceries are expensive. Which has nothing to do with the
|money being sent to Ukraine.
|u/S0LO_Bot - 8 hours
|
|Can you elaborate a bit more please? I never even considered that
|there could be a cultural divide over methods of logic and
|reasoning.
|u/Ardnabrak - 8 hours
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|It might be a "Don't question authority" versus an "Always
|question authority" type of thing. Conservatives usually have had
|a religious or strongly patriarchal upbringing. This may inhibit
|their skepticism since they heard a lot of "Do as I say, not as I
|do" and "Don't question these things!" type rhetoric.
|u/stalinusmc - 8 hours
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|As one who was raised by the ‘do as I say, not what I do’
|parents, this is absolutely true. Most conservatives I know
|don’t fact check anything that they come across, or use logic to
|extrapolate the possible circumstances. They allow their
|emotions to drive their response.
|u/cammyjit - 7 hours
|
|I know plenty of folks who literally will not question
|something they were told like 30 years ago, unless you show
|irrefutable evidence that it’s wrong. Even then, that’s just
|the questioning part, not the acceptance part
|u/TalosMessenger01 - 7 hours
|
|How does this correlate to the highly skeptical form of
|conservatism? Everything from conspiracy theorists to people who
|are just distrusting of the government, experts, and the default
|consensus on things. It’s a pretty big thing in even mainstream
|conservative politics. Not properly utilized skepticism imo
|(their mistake I think is not holding their own ideas to the
|same level of scrutiny as the ideas they attack) but it’s still
|there.
|u/lsda - 7 hours
|
|I read a paper years ago regarding how conservatives are much
|more trustworthy of in groups than out groups. So it could
|very well be a scenario where they have determined the group
|giving the conspiracy theories to be in groups. The thing I've
|noticed with the conspiracy types, is that they are very quick
|to believe a conspiracy that fits their narrative while
|distrusting of those that do not. So it could come down to a
|combination of in groups and outgroups as well as questioning
|authority. So I believe what X says because they are a leader
|and I doubt what Y says because they cannot be trusted. I'll
|have to find the paper I read on right-wing group thinkings.
|It may have been the book"the authoritarians" by Bob Altemeyer
|u/Ardnabrak - 7 hours
|
|Yeah, that would require a deeper dive. The conspiracy theory
|types are all over the political spectrum, so I think there is
|something entirely different that influences their
|development. Paranoia and suspicion seem to be the big
|motivations for them.
|u/UsernameUsername8936 - 1 hour
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|No, I'd argue that that's the same lack of thought. They have
|their "information," anything that easily fits is added
|blindly without question, and anything that doesn't is
|rejected without consideration. It's just some fringe Internet
|weirdo that's thinking for them, instead of some other, more
|conventional individual. Same premise, just with a different
|ideology.
|u/Waste_Cantaloupe3609 - 8 hours
|
|From the article: “I suspect this is because broad searches are
|less cognitively demanding – in other words, they require less
|brainpower. This allows our core beliefs to influence our
|decisions. In fact, this is consistent with research on
|information processing that shows broad thinking leads to stronger
|political attitudes. On the other hand, I argue that specific
|searches require us to pay close attention to the information we
|are processing, which disables our core beliefs from being the
|primary influence on our decisions.” Edit: the article does not
|ever make the claim that conservatives are less inclined to engage
|in cognitively demanding tasks; the author instead claims that
|conservatives trust ads while liberals do not (because of research
|they performed, not due to their beliefs about conservatives and
|liberals) and that this “core belief” driven behavior was not
|apparent when users made a targeted search — conservatives clicked
|ads more if they searched for “headphones” but at the same rate as
|liberals if they searched for “headphones with sound canceling
|microphone”
|u/bx35 - 8 hours
|
|It’s a slippery slope: when you offer them evidence (e.g., tariffs,
|fascists, garbage), they become reactive and choose to sink the ship.
|u/lachwee - 9 hours
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|Yes they are talking about conservatives after all
|u/Huger_and_shinier - 9 hours
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|“Less cognitively demanding” is a very polite phrase.
|u/The_Last_Ball_Bender - 7 hours
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|Dumb people gonna dumb. Essentially..
|u/faireymagik2 - 5 hours
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|To be fair, if you read the title a little more closely “less
|cognitively demanding“ is in reference to the search, not the
|searcher. I made the same mistake when I first read the title. But if
|you read the article, it makes it clear.
|u/p333p33p00p00boo - 3 hours
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|Correct, that was understood from my end. It’s still a little bit
|insulting and pretty funny
|u/fusionsofwonder - 4 hours
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|Doesn't really put the test subject in a positive light either way
|though.
|u/CausticSofa - 7 hours
|
|Can we just collectively address how disappointing this timeline has
|turned out to be?
|u/snajk138 - 6 hours
|
|Time to get some fake goatees until we can grow real ones.
|u/boofjoof - 3 hours
|
|When the author says that, he's referring to the search. The article
|says that no such correlation exists for highly specific searches
|(with 'headphones' versus 'headphones with active noise cancelling' as
|an example) whereas it does exist for broader searches which are 'less
|cognitively demanding'.
|u/BobDonowitz - 6 hours
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|"Conservatives have the IQ of a cow after it's been slaughtered new
|research shows" was deemed too disrespectful towards cows.
|u/MyPenisIsWeeping - 8 hours
|
|Install adblock on your parents devices to fight authoritarianism!
|Adguard dns works for Android phones
|u/Wet_Sanding - 5 hours
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|Ublock origin on Firefox mobile.
|u/Nadare3 - 2 hours
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|Yeah...on all 4 browsers of her computer. *Screams uncontrollably*
|u/jamesholden - 4 hours
|
|nextdns works for nearly everything. uses the same adblock list as
|good adblockers once you enable them. I've spent the past few months
|trying to get to 100% firefox on desktop and mobile. I used to do most
|of my browsing in chrome, keeping important stuff in firefox (email,
|banking). ublock origin on all. also RIF and youtube revanced on
|mobile. smarttube on tv.
|u/cunnyvore - 1 hour
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|It doesn’t work. They *want* the ads for some reason. Wild
|u/cobitos - 10 hours
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|Probably cause more boomers lean conservative
|u/Eternal_Being - 9 hours
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|>"Neither age nor income had any significant impact."
|u/Time-Maintenance2165 - 7 hours
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|They used median age and income to attempt to correct for that.
|That's such a bad way of trying to correct that it's nearly
|worthless.
|u/AThousandBloodhounds - 8 hours
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|Can't pin it on boomers. It took an extremely large and dysfunctional
|village to get us to where we are today.
|u/majestic-culverts - 10 hours
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|Gen X are more conservative than boomers (in the US at least)
|u/shkeptikal - 9 hours
|
|20 years ago, sure. Things have changed and the demographics have
|shifted. See the exit polls for more information and be sure to thank
|Elon and the "right wing" podcasters who were paid by the FSB to
|destabilize America by radicalizing young men into voting against
|their own futures.
|u/Strong-Decision-1216 - 5 hours
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|Do you mean people raised on books and not tiktok?
|u/ogpotato - 9 hours
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|Apparently so are the gen z
|u/MyPenisIsWeeping - 8 hours
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|No they still lean blue but most liberal gen a stayed home on the
|5th
|u/TentacleHockey - 10 hours
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|I think you are missing the biggest issue here. IQ.
|u/magus678 - 9 hours
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|It's odd how reddit pretends IQ isn't a thing until it's convenient.
|u/henzry - 9 hours
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|It’s not really relevant when you’re talking about places lacking
|formalized education systems. More relevant when your talking
|about two groups who ostensibly had the same educational
|opportunities
|u/haarschmuck - 7 hours
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|Education has nothing to do with IQ. IQ is static.
|u/YoloKraize - 49 minutes
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|Lead water goes hard for them.
|u/Curufinwe200 - 1 hour
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|"Reddit isnt an echo chamber"
|u/Swimming_Gazelle_883 - 1 hour
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|Liberals are more likely to believe useless studies and more trusting of
|baseless claims on reddit
|u/Nervous-Project7107 - 9 hours
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|If you read the article and the study they never use the words “less
|cognitively demanding”, they even say conversative states have higher
|income. This reddit post is just karma farming.
|u/richmondody - 9 hours
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|It does actually: > **I suspect this is because broad searches are
|less cognitively demanding – in other words, they require less
|brainpower**. This allows our core beliefs to influence our
|decisions. In fact, this is consistent with research on information
|processing that shows broad thinking leads to stronger political
|attitudes. That being said, I do agree that engaging in less
|cognitively demanding tasks doesn't mean that the person is dumb.
|u/helvetica01 - 7 hours
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|incorrect, *twice.* >conservatives were more likely to click ads
|in response to broad searches, such as “Buy headphones.” But for
|more specific, detailed searches – for example, “Buy headphones with
|microphone that reduces background noise” – there was no
|relationship between politics and clicks. >I suspect this is
|because broad searches are less cognitively demanding – in other
|words, they require less brainpower. This allows our core beliefs to
|influence our decisions. In fact, this is consistent with research
|on information processing that shows broad thinking leads to
|stronger political attitudes. the article *does not say
|conservative states have higher income*. >Given that, on average,
|conservatives are older and have higher incomes than liberals, I
|also looked at each state’s median age and per-capita personal
|income. Again, the data confirmed the relationship between
|conservatism and search ad clicks. Neither age nor income had any
|significant impact. the conclusion made is: conservatism and
|clicking ads is strongly related; age/income and clicking ads were
|not related. it makes no claim about conservatism and state income.
|only that he sought to compare median state incomes against rate of
|clicking ads.
|u/Livid_Zucchini_1625 - 9 hours
|
|there's a pattern of attributes that point to the path of
|conservatives seeking the least cognitively tasking path. whether
|it's this, humor, propaganda and other areas
|u/kozy8805 - 8 hours
|
|That’s why contrary to popular belief of arguing online, the easiest way
|to actually get to know people and change their opinion is to actually
|going offline and getting to know them. Which builds the trust you need.
|u/Lordborgman - 5 hours
|
|I grew up and went to school with people from, and eventually left
|Polk county; 1986 to 2020. There is no amount of knowing most of those
|people that will change a damn thing for the better. No matter how
|calm, reasonable, logical, nicely worded, non confrontational, or
|factual. Seemingly nothing will break that cognitive dissonance, which
|we had the same education, we had access to the same information.
|I've tried desperately, even with my closet friends of 37 years at
|some point eventually called me a "Democratic socialist f*ggot" for my
|views on healthcare, abortion, economics, and ethics. It's maddeningly
|depressing.
|u/kozy8805 - 5 hours
|
|Of course there is, I’ve seen plenty of it done myself. If it could
|be done in the middle of nothing red states, it can be done
|anywhere. There’s just 2 points. 1. You’re not going to change
|everyone. As a matter of fact you’re not going to change most
|people. What you’re looking to change, what changes elections (both
|local and national) are a few percent. Not 10, not 20, not 50. 3-4.
|That’s a maddening amount of rejection. All change is. 2. Arguing
|doesn’t really work in the beginning. Going against whatever the
|norm is makes you “the outsider”. Thats me putting it nicely.
|Building trust and slowly breaking it down piece by piece can work.
|From what I’ve seen, and take this as anecdotal, it works like this.
|Mechanic John, your friendly never rip you off mechanic, tells you
|what’s wrong with your car. You trust him, so you’re inclined to
|believe him and the price he charges. Substitute car with any topic,
|and you got your change. You’re looking to become mechanic John for
|whatever change you want. That’s how these communities work by and
|large. They’re ingrained with people they trust saying certain
|things. Changing them is getting into that. It’s hard, stressful,
|mostly ungrateful work. But that is the only way anything will ever
|change.
|u/Lordborgman - 5 hours
|
|Yeah I get what you are saying, just sucks that several 37 year
|friendships is not even enough for the trust of some of them. Not
|just a mechanic you interact with a few times, someone I knew and
|saw daily for decades, some I _LIVED_ with etc...
|u/dsmjrv - 10 hours
|
|Let’s look at the studies criteria for “sponsored “
|u/boofjoof - 3 hours
|
|Google is required to disclose when search ads are sponsored. It
|appears above the link.
|u/throwaway490215 - 7 hours
|
|Wait. This is why Google and Facebook are so rich? There are people
|clicking the ads?
|u/Rocky_Vigoda - 7 hours
|
|Man i'm so tired of this. "Science proves American liberals are the
|smartest and best people on the planet". No one is really taught proper
|media literacy or how to vet information. Go on the canada sub. Half the
|links are for commentary/editorial articles which are practically the
|same thing as ads yet no one complains because they mention it barely in
|the headline.
|u/LowDownDirtyMeme - 10 hours
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|I done hurt my thinking muscle on the title!
|u/jon3ssing - 8 hours
|
|This is going to be an interesting thread - *sort by controversial*.
|u/solidshakego - 9 hours
|
|I'm a liberal leaning person with an ad blocker. What does that make me?
|u/CaptainMudwhistle - 6 hours
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|Nothing to click = least cognitively demanding = absolute simpleton
|u/solidshakego - 6 hours
|
|Works for me
|u/Pudding-Immediate - 9 hours
|
|Less cognitively demanding…. Hahahahaha
|u/CoolnessEludesMe - 6 hours
|
|Being raised in a church conditions you to just believe what you're
|told, however irrational, rather than to think for yourself.
|u/imbrickedup_ - 7 hours
|
|How is even this sub political
|u/SupervillainMustache - 6 hours
|
|It's second nature for me to ignore sponsored content.
|u/YouFoundMyLuckyCharm - 6 hours
|
|Pastor vs peer culture differences? What could be at play here? I don’t
|want to mischaracterize people
|u/BagOfCatLitter - 6 hours
|
|Someone keeps changing my search engine from Google to Yahoo on my work
|computer. IDK who it is.
|u/Entraprenure - 8 hours
|
|I highly doubt this has any truth to it. Liberals drink the koolaid
|willingly even if it’s obvious propaganda
|u/pepperoni86 - 5 hours
|
|Low key another ‘let’s insult conservatives’ intellect article.
|u/FlamboyantPirhanna - 40 minutes
|
|I don’t subscribe to this sub, so I only see what shows up in popular,
|and every damn post from this sub there is some version of that. I’m
|very very far from conservative, but it’s all just thinly veiled
|tribalism.
|u/JudasZala - 8 hours
|
|And that’s why God/Allah/Jehovah created ad blockers.
|u/MidwesternDude2024 - 8 hours
|
|Has the “study” in the story been peer reviewed and its findings been
|duplicated? No. Please I am begging people to stop sharing bad faith
|stories like this. It’s not science. It just reinforces priors, which
|should make you doubt the story.
|u/Rich_Psychology8990 - 7 hours
|
|In related research, liberals were over 385% more likely to believe any
|claim written in a manner that suggests it came from an academic journal
|or reflects a current scientific consensus, even when no citation is
|provided or the claim does not match their everyday life experiwnce.
|Remarkably, the liberal susceptibility to academic-coded language was
|increased by nearly 1,100% when the claim denigrated conservatives,
|religious believers, or white male corporate executives, with roughly
|one-third of self-identified liberal respondents describing false
|memories of having read the source document, even when both the article
|and publication were completely fictitious.
|u/yeahthisiscooliguess - 7 hours
|
|Would love to read about this. Do you have any sources?
|u/Rich_Psychology8990 - 7 hours
|
|No, of course not. That being said, most of the deeply cherished
|and widely mentioned strong correlation between conservatism and the
|authoritarian personality type vanished when the surveys asked about
|deference to scientific or ecological authority figures, and not
|just deference to religious authority figures.
|u/PM-me-youre-PMs - 2 hours
|
|Not gonna lie, that was funny.
|u/BrilliantLifter - 9 hours
|
|Explain Funko Pops then.
|u/SucculentHorder - 9 hours
|
|Lies. It's really just people trying to close out the ad by pressing the
|stupid microscopic X.
|u/Yay4sean - 8 hours
|
|I was too lazy to bypass the paywall, but this quote seems to be the
|most relevant: >I found that more conservative states were associated
|with more clicks for search ads over organic links. Specifically, a 10%
|increase in a state’s conservative identity was associated with a 6.4%
|increase in search ad clicks. Given that, on average, conservatives are
|older and have higher incomes than liberals, I also looked at each
|state’s median age and per-capita personal income. Again, the data
|confirmed the relationship between conservatism and search ad clicks.
|Neither age nor income had any significant impact. I really don't find
|a 5-15 increase particularly meaningful. This is a pretty marginal
|difference, and doesn't *really* say that much about these two
|populations. Are we going to make broad generalizations based off of
|just 5-15% differences? And I really don't think this is telling
|advertisers anything they don't already know. Most (all?) of
|advertising is based on a bunch of algorithms that have already
|considered every possible thing that leads to increased money.
|u/StromboliOctopus - 8 hours
|
|I could've told you that by the 14,000 vitamin supplements that my fixed
|income trumper step-dad has a spare room dedicated to.
|u/ProfessionalLeave335 - 10 hours
|
|I know this is Reddit. I know I'm self-filtering the content I view
|which only further increases my belief in my worldview. I know that
|because of this my worldview may not be an accurate understanding or
|representation of the world around me. I know all that, but I swear
|everything I read leads me to believe that conservatives are absolute
|morons.
|u/tacomonday12 - 8 hours
|
|Only if you yourself are moronic enough to anchor your thoughts to the
|headline instead of reading through the entire article. The author
|never clarifies what he means as "conservative" or "liberal", and
|concludes that conservatives weren't being fooled by the ads; but were
|clicking them because they trust the market process more than
|liberals. That along with the fact that this guy is a marketing
|professor indicates to the fact that the only thing he really took
|into account when defining those traits is fiscal policy positions.
|Dude is basically saying people who trust the market willingly click
|more ads.
|u/tendrils87 - 5 hours
|
|Add on top of that, that perhaps "liberals" might be more likely to
|believe THEIR content consumption is more organic. I'm not really
|sure truly organic content exists anymore once it escape niche
|spaces.
|u/boofjoof - 3 hours
|
|The point of the article isn't that conservatives are morons. It's
|that they, to a greater extent than liberals, subconsciously trust
|systems like the advertising industry, likely because many systems
|tend to be geared towards them already. If that makes them morons,
|you're a moron too. I guarantee you have subconscious beliefs like
|this that influence your behavior in low stakes situations.
|u/MidwesternDude2024 - 8 hours
|
|Google show me the replication crisis
|u/Eternal_Being - 9 hours
|
|I didn't believe it until I saw about a dozen academic articles over
|the last decade all finding the same things.
|u/KanyinLIVE - 7 hours
|
|Which are certainly unbiased.
|u/Random499 - 4 hours
|
|There's a couple articles supporting anti-vax ideologies. Doesn't
|mean they are true and 100% objective with zero bias
|u/christophercolumbus - 6 hours
|
|Interesting you are able to identify that line of self reflection but
|lack the ability to recognize how stupid your conclusion is. These
|kinds of studies are meaningless. It's nearly impossible to identify
|political ideology without finding people who are easily bucketed into
|those identifiers. We've tried everything to identify political
|ideology through indirect means with some statistical significance and
|have failed every time. To.even embark on this study shows a failure
|to adhere to the standards of unbiased statistical analysis.
|u/zoidberg318x - 8 hours
|
|The problem as well is poor white conservatives are pegged as THEE
|epitome conservative to put shame on. When in reality a lot of those
|"land doesn't vote" areas are high or medium income earners fleeing
|blue cities. The same exists on the left. And surely it's perfectly
|normal to talk about poor uneducated inner city democrats being the
|true party pandering target in negative light right? ...anyway so
|those damn white unversity liberals!
|u/-Fyrebrand - 9 hours
|
|I mean, look who they just elected in the USA. They think tariffs on
|imported goods will make eggs cheaper, just because Trump told them it
|will.
|u/KanyinLIVE - 7 hours
|
|Yeah... that never happened. The tariff proposal is in exchange for
|eliminating income taxes. You should at least know what you're
|talking about when you attempt to make fun of people.
|u/Donnarhahn - 6 hours
|
|Sales tax is set by state and local govs, not federal.
|u/Apt_5 - 48 minutes
|
|You acknowledge your bias and purposeful cultivation of your echo
|chamber, so you shouldn't be surprised that your negative impression
|of conservatives is reinforced. What you should not do is assume
|this is accurate to the whole wide world or reflective of reality.
|u/TheMightySet69 - 8 hours
|
|Yup. This is my mom. Constantly getting scam emails, text messages, and
|phone calls. Always asking me to tell her whether it's a scam, if she is
|even savvy enough to question it before forking over her credit card and
|personal info. But, she knows better than I do when I tell her that
|Trump and Newsmax are deceiving her.
|u/clintbot - 8 hours
|
|"Less cognitively demanding". I'm stealing that phrase.
|u/Accomplished-Pie-206 - 6 hours
|
|No one is surprised. The less educated someone is the most likely they
|are conservative.
|u/AnnualBadger1147 - 7 hours
|
|I'm conservative, and I view every sponsored post and ad as a scam.. I
|always have tho as I grew up in the digital age... But I can believe
|this as I have to help so many older folks who cant see the difference..
|u/RIPx86x - 5 hours
|
|No...... I block every ad I can. Who makes this stuff up.
|u/Fluid-Bread3480 - 6 hours
|
|all correlation of giant population couple of percentages removed from
|margin of error, this is a lot of nothing xD
|u/EfEssKay - 5 hours
|
|Absolute state of this website
|u/FblthpLives - 6 hours
|
|Conservative and right-wing attitudes are causally linked to lower
|cognitive skills:
|https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0963721414549750
|u/OutsideFlat1579 - 10 hours
|
|So, conservatives are as stupid as we always thought they were.
|u/bjornbamse - 8 hours
|
|Trump said 20 maybe 30 years ago that if he ran for the president, he
|would run as a Republican because they have the dumbest voters.
|u/Fun_Environment_8554 - 7 hours
|
|“Less cognitively demanding”. Lolol
|u/beginningagain86 - 7 hours
|
|Had to check to see if it was promoted content.
|u/NatarisPrime - 7 hours
|
|You mean the group that believes in an invisible man that lives in the
|clouds with zero evidence doesn't need actual evidence to believe the
|things they choose? Shocking I tell you .
|u/xPrim3xSusp3ctx - 6 hours
|
|I don't think we need more research saying conservatives are mentally
|deficient. We're aware
|u/Hair_I_Go - 7 hours
|
|Most of them don’t know the difference between a sponsored link and non
|u/FrancoManiac - 10 hours
|
|*...because they may be less cognitively demanding.* Well that's really
|the crux of it, isn't it?
|u/Significant_Pepper_2 - 10 hours
|
|That's funny how readily the comments jump to the "conservatives stupid"
|conclusion given how easily liberals (it whatever there's on the other
|end of the US political spectrum) fall for foreign propaganda.
|u/TheWhomItConcerns - 9 hours
|
|Do you have any actual research indicating that people on the left are
|more likely to "fall for" foreign propaganda than the right?
|u/Electronic-Clock5867 - 8 hours
|
|It’s just how he
|[feels](https://www.salon.com/2021/01/18/conservatives-not-liberals-
|are-more-inclined-to-value-feelings-over-facts-psychology-study-
|finds/)
|u/hellakevin - 1 hour
|
|Saw an AI meme on Facebook saying so.
|u/Eternal_Being - 9 hours
|
|Conservatives are generally more likely to fall for and share
|misinformation, including foreign propaganda ([source](https://journal
|s.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/20563051231220330)). It's been
|[studied](https://news.osu.edu/conservatives-more-susceptible-to-
|believing-falsehoods/) quite [a
|lot](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-conservatives-
|russian-disinformation-survey/).
|u/piperonyl - 10 hours
|
|"conservatives are dumb" thats the headline TLDR
|u/Strange_Quote6013 - 7 hours
|
|I don't think this is because they're conservative I think it's because
|conservatives are older, on average, and less tech savvy. My dad is a 73
|year old socialist and doesn't even know how to copy + paste.
|u/QuiGonnJilm - 7 hours
|
|The only reason I cllck on sponsored results is to intentionally cost
|that advertiser money.
|u/confon68 - 6 hours
|
|How do even determine if someone’s political affiliation has any bearing
|on this. Wild.
|u/ScienceNeverLies - 6 hours
|
|Is this also true for the gen z conservatives? There has been talk about
|how the majority of the gen z men who voted were republicans. I haven’t
|seen any of the data confirming that but it would be interesting to see
|how they interact with sponsored search results compared to older
|conservatives. I’ve also heard gen z isn’t very good with technology and
|that millennials are still the more technologically able generation.
|u/boko_harambe_ - 6 hours
|
|I have software on my network that makes sponsored links not even
|resolve.
|u/Si_is_for_Cookie - 6 hours
|
|I just search with AltaVista, by the third page of results you’ll get
|the best Geocities results for any topic. Sure the text might be yellow
|on a white background but at least it’s real content (foolish as it may
|be), and the animated gif header with the midi theme song are totally
|worth it.
|u/Ihaveasmallwang - 6 hours
|
|I click on sponsored results because the company gets charged every time
|someone does. Also, it’s always the company I’m actually looking for,
|not just random results.
|u/Dunge - 5 hours
|
|Yeah we know.. conservatives are more easily manipulated, story as old
|as time. Why do you think YouTube ads are so much targeting that
|spectrum of people? Because the rest of us know how to use adblockers.
|u/ghengis_flan - 5 hours
|
|This agrees with psychological research (Daniel Kahneman and others),
|which shows that people under stress are less able to engage their
|prefrontal cortex.
|u/fencerman - 5 hours
|
|That's a lot of research pointing to conservatives being dumb.
|u/KevineCove - 5 hours
|
|There are so many possible correlations here that invert (or subvert)
|the implication of this headline. The two that came to mind are: 1.
|Sponsored posts are more likely to be conservative because big business
|leans conservative, but if the viewer is already conservative, they're
|clicking on posts based on confirmation bias because they like the
|content, not because they necessarily trust the source. 2.
|Conservatives tend to be older and may be less tech savvy, so they may
|not even recognize a sponsored post is sponsored in the first place. You
|could call it naivete perhaps but you can't call it a deliberate act of
|trust.
|u/adeline882 - 5 hours
|
|And in this thread a completely lack of desire to and the question why.
|This just feels like another attempt to dunk on conservatives as,
|“stupid.” Instead of looking at what creates a scenario where low
|information voters exist.
|u/gomicao - 5 hours
|
|Conservatives are stupid... news at 11... They are basically responsible
|for the internet becoming enshitified through the Eternal September. [
|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal\_September](https://en.wikipedia.o
|rg/wiki/Eternal_September)
|u/pilfererofgoats - 5 hours
|
|It's a good way to get malware these days.
|u/Wet_Sanding - 5 hours
|
|Republicans are very "tell me what to think' and, 'do it for me' about
|most things.
|u/Untimely_manners - 5 hours
|
|Sounds like kids should install adblockers on to their parents browsers
|to prevent them getting tricked.
|u/Boodikii - 5 hours
|
|How do you not assume Every single ad on the internet contains a virus
|or keylogger?
|u/RedlandRenegade - 5 hours
|
|Confirming that conservatives are indeed, idiots.
|u/Peylix - 4 hours
|
|How utterly shocking. On the other hand however, the internet these
|days is a cesspool of sponsored crap and misinformation because it makes
|money. Google has become best worthless because of it and places like
|Amazon is like navigating a minefield. So I get why so many fall for
|it. Most people are just too lazy to care.
|u/AllSpicNoSpan - 4 hours
|
|The sponsored links are the first ones that populate in Google. If I'm
|searching for running shoes, and the first link directs me to Under
|Armour, I'm going to click on that link regardless of whether or not
|it's sponsored, because it's first and it will direct me to what I'm
|looking for. What an obtuse article.
|u/Captain_Smartass_ - 4 hours
|
|tldr: Conservatives are guiliable
|u/k0_crop - 4 hours
|
|Who coulda thunk that conservatives are stupider
|u/FoghornFarts - 4 hours
|
|I am curious if they accounted for what was being searched and why? Or
|their ages? The average Republican isn't generally as educated and is
|older so their motivation for using a search engine might be different
|from the average Democrat. If you're not searching for answers to a
|complex questions and more asking for assistance with shipping or a
|health question, then sponsored links seem fine.
|u/Gellix - 4 hours
|
|54% of US adults have a literacy rate of the 6th grade. I feel like that
|plays into this somewhat.
|u/ebolaRETURNS - 4 hours
|
|I'm too lazy to defeat the paywall guarding the primary study, but I
|wonder what the basal rate of clicks toward sponsored links is. I would
|have naively assumed very low among all groups. Eg, I'll for the most
|part screen them out mentally, unless my search is like for "plant
|shop".
|u/LEDIEUDUJEU - 4 hours
|
|Conservatives are big stupid spenders, got it
|u/Dangerous_Function16 - 4 hours
|
|Is this controlling for age? Typically this type of media illiteracy is
|something you associate with older generations, as is conservatism.
|u/mashtato - 4 hours
|
|Conservatives are stupid people? YA DON'T SAY!
|u/LaunchGap - 4 hours
|
|clicks i can understand. i've clicked many "singles in your area" links
|in my day. but i've stopped clicking links many years ago. what are the
|conservative groups in this study? are there age groups?
|u/IEatBabies - 4 hours
|
|Or in other words, people prone to believing political
|advertising/propaganda are more likely to believe marketing
|advertising/propaganda. Im not surprised.
|u/JortsByControversial - 3 hours
|
|TikTok users more likely to be Democrats...
|https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/poll-numbers-help-
|explain-bidens-camp-joined-tiktok-rcna138489 But keep patting
|yourselves on the backs.
|u/akiva23 - 3 hours
|
|Tell us something we don't know.
|u/MegaJackUniverse - 3 hours
|
|I have never once clicked the sponsored link at the top. It's rarely
|what you're actually looking for and usually trying to sell you
|something. I can't believe anybody clicks those things as their first
|choice
|u/4K05H4784 - 3 hours
|
|Who the hell clicks on those ads? I'm looking for the first and most
|relevant result google gives me, not something less related that is only
|there because someone pays them.
|u/jar11591 - 3 hours
|
|The fact of the matter is conservatives are just stupid. They lack
|critical thinking skills, brain capacity, and the ability to think
|logically. All they have is emotion, and that leads them to
|conservatism. Conservatism plays on those emotions and insecurities, and
|doesn’t have to involve logic, or thinking at all. So every study that
|will be done, will show the same results. Conservatives are simply
|stupid people.
|u/NedKellysRevenge - 3 hours
|
|Entire top thread deleted. That's a good look.
|u/mintysambo - 3 hours
|
|That is the politest way to say 'stupider' and I am absolutely using
|that henceforth
|u/logicalsanity - 3 hours
|
|Because conservatives are a dumb people. It’s that simple.
|u/Odys - 2 hours
|
|And [conservatives hardly trust
|science](https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2024/11/14/public-trust-in-
|scientists-and-views-on-their-role-in-policymaking/)
|u/atothez - 2 hours
|
|“Conservatives were more likely to click ads in response to broad
|searches because they may be less cognitively demanding.” That’s why
|they follow the dumbest links! Q: So what’s sucking up all their
|cognition? A: Cognative disonnance. The more nonsense they consume
|(religion, politics, ads), the less they’re able to judge challenging
|content. So they go down the rabbit hole, buying literally the dumbest
|things. Corporations (seen as Egragores or as collective AI) must love
|them. It’s all collective intelligence. There’s no one at the helm.
| Just dollars. This explains why liberals lost the last election. The
|“invisible hand” is showing it’s face.
|u/Reasonable_Link_7150 - 2 hours
|
|r/science be like: Haha if ur conservative u do dumb things.
|u/whoshereforthemoney - 2 hours
|
|The anti-intellectuals surprise absolutely no one in their lesser
|ability to parse good information.
|u/homkono22 - 1 hour
|
|Far right and far left are both absolute idiots. Outside of that there
|can be good polices from either political leanings, the political scale
|is dumb and largely doesn't fit a lot of issues that have more gray or
|not easily explained solutions. People who call themselves right wing
|conservatives out loud are also more likely to be on the idiot extreme
|end than other people who simply refer to themselves as more left
|leaning (while actually agreeing and disagreeing with individual left
|right policies as they research them). People are often too dumb to
|understand issues they can't just say yes and no to without nuance. It
|needs to be black-white left-right in their mind, where you blindly have
|to agree with everything your "team" says. Otherwise they'll go around
|calling people uneducated (ironically) fencesitters who can't stand
|their ground.
|u/EssbaumRises - 1 hour
|
|"less cognitively demanding"
|u/Icyforgeaxe - 1 hour
|
|Is it possible they just run less adblock? I feel like liberals are
|typically more tech savvy.
|u/rioalquin - 1 hour
|
|Funny way to say "Conservatives are suckers who click on risky ads"
|u/topher7930 - 1 hour
|
|"may be" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that title .
|u/maximiseYourChill - 1 hour
|
|> I suspect this is because broad searches are less cognitively
|demanding – in other words, they require less brainpower. TIL that
|trusting some of the most sophisticated algos in human history is being
|a dumb dumb.
|u/flargenhargen - 1 hour
|
|>less cognitively demanding. I've never seen a better description.
|u/LunarMoon2001 - 1 hour
|
|And this is why the number of grifters, podcasters, and alt right
|influencers has grown. They make money off of people that are too dumb
|to realize they are clicking an ad.
|u/RogitoX - 44 minutes
|
|This is true I find my self specifically not picking results that say
|sponsored
|u/Alternative_Hunt_832 - 43 minutes
|
|I just went through a huge list of important people, companies, and
|corporations and with their conservative alignment, I have made a
|decision to remove that content from my life so it can harm me no
|more...
|u/librarypunk1974 - 42 minutes
|
|They aren’t giving us their best folks…
|u/JFSOCC - 35 minutes
|
|I'm tired of all this language moving around it. stop saying
|*cognitively demanding*, right wingers are *more stupid*. there, I said
|it. And yes, research bears this out time and time again.
|u/Crystalshopmusic - 32 minutes
|
|lolol. who would have thunk it
|u/RandeKnight - 28 minutes
|
|I try hard to not click sponsored links because if it was actually good,
|then they wouldn't need to spend lots of money to get them at the top of
|the results.
|u/Vast_Bobcat_4218 - 25 minutes
|
|In other words, conservatives are generally lazy or stupid.
|u/Januaria1981 - 13 minutes
|
|I love the ads for "Tactical" sunglasses. Or any ad with the US flag
|waving in the background. Jeez, these rubes will *never* learn. BT
|Barnum was right: there's a sucker born every minute.
|u/the_hair_of_aenarion - 11 minutes
|
|I wonder if you can classify probability of being a conservative /
|liberal, based only on whether they click the top sponsored result or
|the one directly below it, when both lead to the place.
|u/xavster - 10 minutes
|
|tldr: conservatives are older, older people are less tech savvy and more
|likely to be tricked into clicking ads. The end.
|u/IAmAccutane - 5 minutes
|
|Is this controlled for age? I feel like a Gen Xer of any political
|affiliation would react the same way.
|