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Xi Jinping tells Biden China 'ready to work' with Trump administration
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|u/Catadox - 8 hours
|
|This is utterly uninteresting news. Of course he’d say that. What the
|fuck else would he say?


  |u/Tooterfish42 - 7 hours
  |
  |It's because of the implication


    |u/Fishiesideways10 - 7 hours
    |
    |You keep saying that. Are we in any danger?


      |u/tsm_taylorswift - 5 hours
      |
      |No ones in any danger. It’s an implication of danger


        |u/skryb - 3 hours
        |
        |don’t forget the DONALD system  **D**ominate the narrative
        |**O**verstate your strength  **N**egotiate aggressively
        |**A**merica First  **L**everage unpredictability  **D**eliver a
        |tweet storm


          |u/UniqueAssociation729 - 3 hours
          |
          |When you put it this way it does sound like a good strategy….


            |u/skryb - 3 hours
            |
            |well that’s because i use the SKRYB system  **S**implify the
            |concept  **K**eep it relatable  **R**eframe with wit
            |**Y**ield to creativity  **B**ring it home


              |u/Scary-Aerie - 3 hours
              |
              |Can I keep you around as a mnemonics/acronym guy? So far
              |you’re 2 for 2 and I’m digging it!


          |u/Boye - 1 hour
          |
          |I thought the L was for "Lie incessantly"....


    |u/Half-infinity - 7 hours
    |
    |The implication that things might go wrong for him if he refuses to
    |negotiate with the administration, not that things are gonna go
    |wrong for him but he’s thinking that they will.


      |u/pablogott - 7 hours
      |
      |I’m confused, who is he in your comment?


        |u/Half-infinity - 7 hours
        |
        |Yes 👍🏼


          |u/thisisredlitre - 6 hours
          |
          |I prefer the FRANK system


            |u/Preface - 5 hours
            |
            |I drop my monster condom for my Magnum dong


        |u/BasicNeedleworker473 - 3 hours
        |
        |he is him


    |u/Golden-Owl - 5 hours
    |
    |What implication….?  You expect him to publicly insult the incoming
    |president who has a known history of instigating trade wars with
    |China and is infamously petty?


      |u/Tooterfish42 - 5 hours
      |
      |Well we *are* already on a boat


      |u/ActiveImpression6326 - 3 hours
      |
      |The funny thing is how China won that trade war but you’d never
      |know it watching Fox News.   We’re still paying for trumps
      |bullshit from his first term.


        |u/chimugukuru - 2 hours
        |
        |I live in China. It absolutely did not win the trade war, you
        |just don’t see the ramifications on this end because the
        |government keeps everything hush hush. Countless business have
        |been shut down, youth unemployment was at an unprecedented 25%
        |before they just stopped reporting the numbers, and people have
        |been moving in droves out of first tier cities back to the
        |countryside because of high costs of living and layoffs.  I have
        |been able to negotiate cheaper rent in the same place in
        |Shanghai two years in a row now which would have been unheard of
        |just a few years ago and my landlord is begging me to stay.  My
        |building is about 30% empty at the moment and the manager told
        |me a lot of owners are concerned about how they’re gonna
        |continue paying their mortgages.  Things here are way worse than
        |you think.


  |u/RealCrusader - 8 hours
  |
  |Trump has called Xi a friend. Of course they will work together 


    |u/Catadox - 8 hours
    |
    |He also has a long history of calling china our number one enemy. I
    |doubt they’ll actually work together much but it’s still just
    |something you say. No world leader is going to be like “no I refuse
    |to work with the president of the United States.”


      |u/Parmeloens - 1 hour
      |
      |Yeah Trump was pumping out tons of propaganda about Xi and China.
      |https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-launched-cia-covert-
      |influence-operation-against-china-2024-03-14/
      |https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covid-
      |propaganda/


      |u/DappyHayes - 8 hours
      |
      |Putin and Xi are working him from both ends. America is the only
      |capitalist left standing.


        |u/Bert-en-Ernie - 7 hours
        |
        |The first part of your comment is true, but what is the second
        |part supposed to mean?


          |u/nonpuissant - 6 hours
          |
          |It means they have no idea what they're talking about lol


            |u/DappyHayes - 5 hours
            |
            |Two idiots who both think they outsmarted the other idiot.


        |u/HoustonHenry - 7 hours
        |
        |Giving him the 'ole "eiffel tower"


          |u/DappyHayes - 6 hours
          |
          |Ooh-la-la.


        |u/yellowstickypad - 7 hours
        |
        |This would make for an interesting AI prompt.


          |u/DappyHayes - 5 hours
          |
          |Ew. No! Bad.


        |u/Chummyiota - 7 hours
        |
        |Was.


          |u/DappyHayes - 6 hours
          |
          |The capitalist part or the standing part?


      |u/umbananas - 7 hours
      |
      |his action says otherwise.


        |u/Les-Freres-Heureux - 4 hours
        |
        |His first administration waged the most relentless trade war
        |with China in decades


          |u/umbananas - 4 hours
          |
          |Well whatever it was, it did not work. Trade deficit with
          |China went up during his term. 🤷‍♂️


            |u/a_modal_citizen - 4 hours
            |
            |But prices went up for Americans, so...  Mission
            |accomplished?


        |u/IlikeJG - 5 hours
        |
        |Are you actually insane? Did you miss the part where Trump put
        |vicious tariffs on goods imported from China during his last
        |term?  Or how he constantly goes on and on about how much of a
        |threat China is?


          |u/TugMe4Cash - 1 hour
          |
          |Trump was mainly 'strong' on China as [leverage to get
          |Ivanka's trademarks](https://www.theguardian.com/us-
          |news/2018/may/28/ivanka-trump-won-china-trademarks-donald-
          |trump-zte-reversal) signed off. His tariffs were largely
          |ineffective and generally caused more harm to the American
          |people than good.  >he constantly goes on and on about how
          |much of a threat China is?  He constantly goes on about lots
          |of shit. Like a lot. His whole grift is talking shit that his
          |cult following, with zero knowledge about the economy or
          |politics in general, seem to lap up. For example he talks
          |about how China is "taking all the jobs" and he wants
          |everything to be manufactured in the USA - yet all his [MAGA
          |hats, bibles, flags and other
          |merchandise](https://i.imgur.com/kRggh6a.jpeg) are made in,
          |yes you guessed it, China! Because he can grift more money
          |from his followers that way and gives zero fucks about
          |American jobs.


    |u/Tundraspin - 7 hours
    |
    |Suddenly Ivanka receives more trademarks.....


    |u/Tyzorg - 7 hours
    |
    |Why would you cloud dislike for Trump in a situation like this. This
    |is about the whole country and ofc DJT called him a friend. Keep
    |your enemies closer. It's all a dance and play they do.


  |u/qubedView - 5 hours
  |
  |“We will assist President Trump with the peaceful transition of power
  |from the US to China.”


  |u/lew_rong - 2 hours
  |
  |It's not utterly uninteresting, but it's unsurprising. Last time
  |donnie boy gave away the store to China in return for some trademarks,
  |so *of course* they're ready to "work with" him again.  Meanwhile the
  |sheeple bleat their approval as his "tough on China" stance is poised
  |to once again weaken America.


  |u/BigBeeOhBee - 6 hours
  |
  |>What the fuck else would he say?  "I'm Winnie the Pooh and hangout
  |with Tigger and Rue while barbecuing Piglet and Rabbit while Eyore
  |drinks the last of his rot gut vodka?"


    |u/mikey_ig - 6 hours
    |
    |> What the fuck else would he say?  “Nobody can be uncheered with a
    |balloon.” — Winnie the Pooh.  “I wonder how many wishes a star can
    |give.” — Winnie the Pooh.  “I’m not lost for I know where I am. But
    |however, where I am may be lost.” — Winnie the Pooh.  “Oh, bother.”
    |— Winnie the Pooh.  “Sometimes I flick my little thing, just to see
    |if I feel it. Sometimes it excites me and I make honey.” — Winnie
    |the Pooh.   “Isn’t it funny / How a bear likes honey? / Buzz! Buzz!
    |Buzz! — Winnie the Pooh.


      |u/BigBeeOhBee - 5 hours
      |
      |> I flick my little thing, just to see if I feel it. Sometimes it
      |excites me and I make honey.” — Winnie the Pooh.   Me too Pooh, me
      |too.


  |u/pentaquine - 3 hours
  |
  |“We are going to war.” 


  |u/ChocolateNew3228 - 3 hours
  |
  |Idk he could say China will never work with the Trump administration
  |because Trump is racist and misogynist amd a fascist. He could say
  |China would rather go to war agains US to secure utter world
  |domination.


|u/eastbay77 - 9 hours
|
|He wants to get a price quote to invade and take over Taiwan


  |u/DappyHayes - 8 hours
  |
  |He gave the quote. It will be generous enough that a greedy man will
  |grab it without thinking.


    |u/OG_simple_rhyme_time - 1 hour
    |
    |Trump will take funding defense spending from Ukraine, Taiwan, South
    |Korea, Gaza, NATO, etc which will hurt all US citizens that they're
    |to stupid to know and the ones that are smart enough to know.
    |Billionaires will benefit. Privatized military by sponsored
    |billionaires to suppress the working class is on the horizon for
    |Americans.


    |u/TheAngryGoat - 2 hours
    |
    |15% discount on manufacture of dumb red hats


  |u/TheyCallMeMrMaybe - 7 hours
  |
  |Price is probably $30 million investment into Truth Social.


    |u/51ngular1ty - 7 hours
    |
    |With the talk about extra tariffs being placed on ICs I imagine he
    |already received that payment.


    |u/Hautamaki - 7 hours
    |
    |He better make that quick, pretty sure Elon is going to just buy
    |Truth and fold it into Twitter for some absurd price next time he
    |needs Trump to do something for him.


  |u/turquoise_amethyst - 7 hours
  |
  |Xi: "Is that the best you can do?”


  |u/andrewsmd87 - 6 hours
  |
  |It will be at least 3.50


  |u/hextreme2007 - 5 hours
  |
  |Another fear mongering. There won't be an invasion in near future
  |unless Taiwan is stupid enough to declare independence.


    |u/Eclipsed830 - 5 hours
    |
    |Taiwan is already independent, but the PRC continues to move closer
    |and closer to a war with Taiwan. Their freedom of navigation and
    |overflights are becoming more and more aggressive, and it is only a
    |matter of time before this leads to a mistake.


      |u/hextreme2007 - 5 hours
      |
      |First, Taiwan never DECLARES independence. Actually, there's even
      |no regime called "Taiwan", only "Republic of China". Second, I did
      |not say it will never happen. I said it won't happen in near
      |future, like in the next four years. Your "only a matter of time"
      |claim suggest a long term, which may be right. But if you were
      |suggesting only four years, that is nothing to support that idea.


        |u/Eclipsed830 - 5 hours
        |
        |Taiwan is the colloquial name for the Republic of China. Saying
        |their is no country called "Taiwan" is as stupid as saying there
        |is no country called "China" or "Greece".   Taiwan is already
        |independent and is not part of the PRC. China does not want to
        |accept this any longer. 


          |u/Individual_Jacket720 - 3 hours
          |
          |So, why did Taiwan occupy the islands of Kinmen and Matsu in
          |China's Fujian province? The islanders of these islands do not
          |consider themselves Taiwanese


            |u/Eclipsed830 - 3 hours
            |
            |I have friends (classmates) from Kinmen who absolutely
            |considered themselves Taiwanese. Those islands have never
            |been part of the PRC.


              |u/Individual_Jacket720 - 3 hours
              |
              |Just like many generals in Taiwan consider themselves
              |Chinese


                |u/Eclipsed830 - 3 hours
                |
                |And?   Taiwan is a free country, people are allowed to
                |identify however they'd like... Be it Taiwanese,
                |Chinese, both, or neither. 


                  |u/Individual_Jacket720 - 3 hours
                  |
                  |Yes, I can also say that the moon belongs to China.
                  |Imagination has nothing to do with reality, and Kinmen
                  |Matsu belongs to Taiwan and belongs to fantasy


          |u/hextreme2007 - 3 hours
          |
          |>Taiwan is the colloquial name for the Republic of China.
          |Then you do know that their official name is Republic of
          |China, which brought lots of issues. It's quite unnatural that
          |the colloquial name of a country has nothing to do at all with
          |its official name, which is very similar to another country.
          |Also, there are still "Taiwan Independence" movements on
          |Taiwan island. Do you think they are wasting their time by
          |doing something that is already done?


            |u/Eclipsed830 - 3 hours
            |
            |There is nothing unnatural about referring to a country by a
            |colloquial name. Do you feel it is unnatural to say Greece
            |instead of the Hellenic Republic? Do you think it is strange
            |that people call William Clinton by his colloquial name of
            |Bill? Do yo think it is unnatural when someone named Richard
            |goes by Dick? That is just how colloquialism works.   And
            |no, they aren't wasting their time. The "Independence
            |Movement" in Taiwan is about declaring independence from the
            |ROC, not the PRC, and starting over as a Republic of Taiwan.
            |Just because people support Taiwan independence does not
            |mean they don't already view Taiwan (ROC) as already
            |independent.


              |u/hextreme2007 - 3 hours
              |
              |OK. The Hellenic Republic example is great. But the names
              |of individuals are totally different things. A country is
              |not a person.  Like you said. Declaration and recognition
              |are important to some people. I said at the very beginning
              |that it's about "Taiwan is stupid enough to **declare**
              |independence". I didn't say "Taiwan is stupid enough to
              |**be** independence".


                |u/Eclipsed830 - 3 hours
                |
                |My point is that Taiwan is clear... they are **already**
                |a sovereign and independent country, and not part of the
                |PRC.  For example, Taiwan's position clarified by the
                |[ROC Ministry of Foreign Affairs](https://www.taipeitime
                |s.com/News/taiwan/archives/2021/09/08/2003764010)
                |spokesperson Joanne Ou:  >The ministry would continue to
                |stress to members of the international community that
                |**the Republic of China is a sovereign nation, not a
                |part of the PRC**, and that Taiwan’s future can only be
                |decided by its 23.5 million people.  Or the status quo,
                |[as explained by Taiwan's Minister of Foreign Affairs](h
                |ttps://en.mofa.gov.tw/News_Content.aspx?n=1328&s=114527)
                |:  >**The Republic of China (Taiwan) is a sovereign and
                |independent country. Neither the R.O.C. (Taiwan) nor the
                |People’s Republic of China is subordinate to the other.
                |Such facts are both objective reality and the status
                |quo.** Taiwan will continue to work together with free
                |and democratic partners to firmly safeguard universal
                |values and beliefs.


  |u/LawfullyNeurotic - 6 hours
  |
  |Sadly, we don't have any real options in stopping that if it were to
  |happen.  China is a behemoth in terms of their literal military size.
  |They wouldn't even need to be skilled to counter us. It's purely a
  |"brute force" situation if we came to blows. They simply have more
  |soldiers and we'd be at a disadvantage of having to move hardware out
  |there to match them.  A war over Taiwan would take place in their
  |backyard. They have the home field advantage in that scenario.


    |u/Logical_Welder3467 - 6 hours
    |
    |War in Taiwan put China in severe disadvantage   They need to
    |prepare to move 1-2 mil troops across 100KM of water to assault a
    |mountain fortress that is the island.  Everyone would see this
    |preparation from space and they have two one month windows each year
    |to complete the landing.  China import a large portion of their food
    |and energy which would be blockade by US navy. so when the shooting
    |starts they have a few months of supplies before the economic
    |collapse   China really need to win this war within a few days


      |u/LawfullyNeurotic - 6 hours
      |
      |The fact of the matter is China told us outright when they expect
      |to "absorb" Taiwan.   They've given an end date of 2049.  They
      |wouldn't even need to invade Taiwan directly. All they would need
      |to do is surround the island and shut down their airspace. After
      |enough time, Taiwan would have to accept absorption or their
      |people would starve to death.   That isn't even counting important
      |imports like medicine and fuel and so on.


        |u/Eclipsed830 - 5 hours
        |
        |> The fact of the matter is China told us outright when they
        |expect to "absorb" Taiwan.  Fact of the matter is, China simply
        |can't just "absorb" Taiwan.  ---- >They wouldn't even need to
        |invade Taiwan directly. All they would need to do is surround
        |the island and shut down their airspace. After enough time,
        |Taiwan would have to accept absorption or their people would
        |starve to death.  A blockade is an act of war. It is a half-
        |measure that shows the hand the PRC was dealt.  Either China
        |needs boots on the ground in Taiwan, or a blockade does nothing.
        |Is China going to shoot supply ships? Then that is war and
        |Taiwan will be launching thousands upon thousands of anti-ship
        |missiles from ground-based launchers. Those ships are now
        |sinking.


        |u/seeingeyefish - 5 hours
        |
        |> They wouldn't even need to invade Taiwan directly. All they
        |would need to do is surround the island and shut down their
        |airspace. After enough time, Taiwan would have to accept
        |absorption or their people would starve to death.   Just
        |"surrounding the island" and "shutting down the airspace" might
        |be hard when other countries are set on keeping them open.   A
        |blockade of Taiwan would be hampered by US (and ally) troops
        |stationed to defend the eastern seaboard of Taiwan and a major
        |port that could allow for resupply of the island. US bases in
        |Japan and South Korea would try to close off northern edge of
        |Taiwan to China in the East China Sea, with a Japanese air base
        |on Yonaguni and the US not far behind on Okinawa. The same would
        |happen from the south with the Philippines and US military
        |stationed on Luzon. Chinese control of the South China Sea would
        |blunt the southern flank to attempt control of Taiwan's eastern
        |coast and allow contesting the Straight of Malacca.  If China
        |can't encircle Taiwan relatively quickly, they'll be forced to
        |attack directly across the Strait of Taiwan which would be
        |extremely fortified and attempt history's largest amphibious
        |landing in the handful of places suitable for it. Notably, the
        |south-west beaches whose approach is guarded by Taiwan's
        |defenses on the Penghu islands.  The name of the game would be
        |for Taiwan to delay at Penghu to get their main defenses
        |hardened while the US and allies hold the Chinese from Taiwan's
        |eastern seaboard long enough to move even more forces into the
        |area. Then keeping the Taiwanese supplied and firm for the
        |massive attack that would hit them in only their strongest
        |defenses. Make it so costly for China that they eventually back
        |down again using only conventional forces.  The US has been
        |deepening its ties with the neighboring countries in the past
        |couple years, particularly in regards to its nuclear trident
        |with bombers stationed in Japan and submarines in northern
        |Australia (Biden signed that deal last year) that aim to deter
        |China from using nukes themselves if the conventional assault
        |fails.  Malacca is important for Chinese energy imports, and not
        |terribly hard for the US to deny from their base in Changi,
        |Singapore. Their relationship with Russia is, as you pointed
        |out, an attempt to bypass the vulnerable shipping lanes. Other
        |strategies include their building of naval bases in the Indian
        |Ocean (Sri Lanka, Djibouti) and supporting the government of
        |Myanmar (despite the current chaos and unrest) in hopes of using
        |it as a port that bypasses Malacca, as well as a potential
        |pipeline/canal across Thailand for the same reason.  China's
        |divestment of US debt and attempts to strengthen their energy
        |import network is part of the pre-war chessboard, as well as (so
        |far unsuccessful, I think) getting military access to naval
        |ports in western Africa (Equitorial Guinea, Gabon) which would
        |allow for a nuclear presence in the Atlantic off the US's east
        |coast.


        |u/hextreme2007 - 5 hours
        |
        |>They've given an end date of 2049.  Source?


          |u/LawfullyNeurotic - 5 hours
          |
          |>At the highest level of the Chinese Party-state, statements
          |tying national unification with national revival and
          |rejuvenation have been a mainstay of political discourse since
          |the Deng Xiaoping era.[^(12)](https://interpret.csis.org/what-
          |is-beijings-timeline-for-reunification-with-taiwan/#easy-
          |footnote-bottom-12-1724) Such a framing offers an implicit
          |deadline for PRC absorption of Taiwan by 2049. Xi Jinping has
          |twice mentioned that the Taiwan issue cannot indefinitely be
          |passed on from generation to generation but has not tied
          |responsibility for unification to his current generation. He
          |seems to be saying, in a sense, that Beijing cannot
          |permanently delay achieving its goal, but has left flexibility
          |on precisely how long a solution can be delayed.
          |[https://interpret.csis.org/what-is-beijings-timeline-for-
          |reunification-with-taiwan/](https://interpret.csis.org/what-
          |is-beijings-timeline-for-reunification-with-taiwan/)


            |u/hextreme2007 - 3 hours
            |
            |So it's implicit. It's something guessed by foreign
            |analysts, not a date officially announced by China.


              |u/LawfullyNeurotic - 3 hours
              |
              |If you want to take that risk, go for it.  The fact is
              |there's a very good chance China is going to attempt to
              |absorb Taiwan within the next 20 years and we're not
              |likely to do anything to stop it.  The country can barely
              |be convinced to back Ukraine at this point.


                |u/hextreme2007 - 2 hours
                |
                |Anyway, your "next 20 years" prediction is waaaay more
                |reasonable than those "next 4 years" claims, which are
                |total nonsense.


|u/wheresmyspaceship - 6 hours
|
|Why is this even here? Literally every foreign government says this
|about an incoming administration


|u/lajb85 - 9 hours
|
|Of course they’re saying this. This is the perfect propaganda.  They
|want us to vote Republican because it’s the worst thing we can do to
|ourselves. It’ll allow us to stagnate and put the focus of our
|government on getting bibles in schools, while China develops tech and
|their military and blows us by.


  |u/Its_Pine - 8 hours
  |
  |Honestly in this case I don’t think so. China is still going to have
  |an unpleasant time with tariff wars. But just like other world
  |leaders, they know Trump is obsessed with public lip service and they
  |are all taking this opportunity to try and manipulate him.


    |u/Foolishium - 8 hours
    |
    |For short term, Trump is bad for China business. For long term,
    |Trump is good for China political interest.


      |u/IAmTheTrueWalruss - 8 hours
      |
      |Wouldn’t trump be just as likely to support Taiwan in an invasion?
      |If anything his unpredictability helps Taiwan no?


        |u/KyloRenCadetStimpy - 8 hours
        |
        |What unpredictability?  Give Ivanka some patents, stroke his
        |ego, he does what you want


        |u/n-butyraldehyde - 8 hours
        |
        |He's perfectly predictable in one aspect -- he doesn't help
        |those who don't stroke his ego or stuff his wallet. The fucker
        |abandoned the Kurds and is open about abandoning Ukraine. Why
        |would Taiwan be any different?


        |u/Foolishium - 8 hours
        |
        |The problem is that Trump is terrible at mobilizing American
        |alliance. USA alone is something that China can handle in China
        |backyard.  What China doesn't want is that US fully mobilizes
        |their networks of Alliance and friends.  If Trump pull out of
        |NATO, applies 10% tariff to all Imports from EU, and leaks five
        |eyes intel; then very few of Trump allies are willing to help US
        |to defend Taiwan.


          |u/IAmTheTrueWalruss - 7 hours
          |
          |You think he’ll pull out of NATO? Feels like threat.


            |u/shady8x - 6 hours
            |
            |The Republican party felt the threat real enough to work
            |with democrats to pass a law to forbid US presidents from
            |leaving NATO whenever they feel like it...
            |https://thehill.com/homenews/4360407-congress-approves-bill-
            |barring-president-withdrawing-nato/  This is the same party
            |that spent like a year blocking democrats from passing bill
            |to fund border defense and anti illegal immigration
            |efforts... which are the main things they are supposed to
            |support. So they must feel the threat is pretty damn big.


          |u/Fackos - 8 hours
          |
          |China would get fucking stomped by the US in Chinas back yard.
          |There isn't a country on Earth anywhere on the planet that can
          |beat the US military, regardless of location.  The US doesn't
          |need anyone's help beating China.


            |u/bloodwine - 8 hours
            |
            |If Trump manages to replace 3- and 4-star generals with his
            |cronies then we’ll fast-track the corruption and corrosion
            |within our military. In time we may end up with a paper
            |tiger military like Russia.


            |u/Locke_and_Load - 8 hours
            |
            |Vietnam and Afghanistan say hello.


              |u/Fackos - 8 hours
              |
              |The US Military completely destroyed those in control of
              |Afghanistan. They failed at country building, which is
              |impossible to do for a populace who isn't looking for it.
              |Vietnam was deemed a failure because of the hate for the
              |conflict at home.  Look at casualties for both conflicts
              |and tell me who won. You're naive if you think the US
              |couldn't destroy China or any other country. They wouldn't
              |be looking to occupy, they'd be their to dismantle them
              |militarily, and it would be a resounding success.


                |u/Alexexy - 8 hours
                |
                |The US and Nato allies were forced to pull out of Korea
                |and Vietnam due to China and the USSR.   One of the
                |reasons why the US lost the Vietnam War was because they
                |didn't have the carte Blanche ability to bomb the NVA in
                |north Vietnam. If they did, China would intervene and
                |made it a repeat of the Korean War.   This was decades
                |ago when China just came out of a civil war and had a
                |fraction of the manufacturing capability that they have
                |today.   China has no hope of beating the US in an
                |offensive war but in a defensive war, the US would
                |likely face horrifying losses even if we do win.


                  |u/Nipun137 - 7 hours
                  |
                  |There is no chance of winning. If US invades China,
                  |there is only one outcome - utter annihilation of the
                  |entire US military (assuming no nukes). Tens of
                  |mlliins of soldiers will die before they could inflict
                  |any damage on Chinese mainland. China is almost
                  |impossible to invade. I said almost because if the
                  |entire world invades China then it is possible. But
                  |then again, in that case even US is invadable.


                |u/Locke_and_Load - 7 hours
                |
                |The US is fine when it’s fighting a traditional war, but
                |we’ve shown time and again we do terribly against
                |ideology.


                |u/MrBadger1978 - 7 hours
                |
                |You think that the country that inflicts the most
                |casualties wins the war?! In which case, Germany won
                |WW2.


            |u/LoudAd6879 - 6 hours
            |
            |Militaries doesn't work like that. USA doesn't have any
            |magical weapon systems to get away with logistics
            |constraints.   USA poured trillions to keep away Talibans
            |from Afghanistan government. Talibans didn't have nuclear
            |weapons, hypersonic missile programs, industrial production
            |capacity, manpower that China has.   China isn't imperial
            |Japan that was constrained because of lack of important
            |resources like iron ore & oil ( imperial Japan was totally
            |dependent upon British India for iron ore, British colony
            |Malaysia for Rubber plantations & America for oil, imagine
            |depending on your enemies for basic raw materials for
            |industrial manufacturing & still foolishly attacking them ).
            |China has no such weaknesses & Russia is a Chinese ally who
            |will keep supplying oil to them.


            |u/Nipun137 - 7 hours
            |
            |Nonsense. If US military invades China (assuming no nukes),
            |China will curbstomp USA. An invasion of China wouod require
            |hundreds of millions of soldiers. Probably 99% would die
            |before they even set foot on the land of China. The US navy
            |is safe as long as they are far away from Chinese shore. If
            |they come close, they will get destroyed. And I have not
            |even taken into account Chinese industrial capacity which
            |far exceeds that of USA. If China wants, they can build a
            |military far larger than US.


            |u/Diarygirl - 8 hours
            |
            |Well, right now, no, but that's going to change after Trump
            |weakens the military.


        |u/AdministrativeEase71 - 7 hours
        |
        |Trump is anti-NATO and pro-isolationist. NATO may be called
        |North Atlantic but it's the premier global defense alliance and
        |aligned specifically with the western interests China plays
        |counter to.


        |u/Hautamaki - 7 hours
        |
        |No, I don't think anybody believes he is just as likely to help
        |Taiwan. Biden is on the record multiple times saying the US
        |would go to war to defend Taiwan. Trump and people on his team
        |have intimated the opposite.


          |u/IAmTheTrueWalruss - 6 hours
          |
          |They’ve intimated the opposite? Isn’t it the strategy of the
          |US to be vague in whether they will?   Basically I’m asking
          |there any evidence to suggest Trump is any different than
          |Biden on Taiwan? Seems this policy is quite shared among all
          |leaders. I’m not sure but I’m also kinda sure lol


            |u/Hautamaki - 6 hours
            |
            |https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-taiwan-remarks-spark-
            |fury-concern-1862602  Casual Google brings up dozens of
            |stories like this


        |u/IlikeJG - 5 hours
        |
        |I wouldn't bet on Trump upholding any type of agreement no
        |matter how big or small. The guy seems allergic to keeping his
        |word. About anything. Even things he seems like he really cares
        |about.


    |u/LetterheadMore4606 - 8 hours
    |
    |It's not that deep. They would be saying they are ready to work with
    |Harris if she won as well. This is just standard foreign policy
    |speak. Nothing special.


    |u/idungiveboutnothing - 8 hours
    |
    |China is fully ready for the trade wars. They've moved a huge amount
    |of their supply chain to South America and Africa. They can't wait
    |to flip all of our allies onto this and away from the US as the US
    |becomes far more isolationist. This will weaken all opposition to
    |China, weaken the US's position and influence globally, and also be
    |the perfect excuse for China to grab Taiwan.


    |u/a_modal_citizen - 4 hours
    |
    |> China is still going to have an unpleasant time with tariff wars.
    |Almost as unpleasant a time as Americans.


    |u/lajb85 - 8 hours
    |
    |I don’t think your understood what I mean. I’m not saying China
    |actually wants Trump in office, but it behooves them to say that
    |they are.


      |u/pobbitbreaker - 8 hours
      |
      |they wont kiss the ring , but theyll tip their hat.


  |u/Drew1231 - 5 hours
  |
  |The election was a couple of weeks ago.


|u/phred_666 - 8 hours
|
|Of course he’s ready… Trump is easy to manipulate


  |u/ggddrrddd - 8 hours
  |
  |Reverse psychology on a narcissist


|u/bareboneschicken - 9 hours
|
|That's just good politics to make that statement even if Xi secretly
|planned to do the exact opposite.


|u/Remote-Ad-2686 - 9 hours
|
|I can’t wait for the tariff war! It’s guaranteed to increase inflation
|and hurry along the great melt up. I can’t wait for 2 dollar a gallon
|gas ! Free social security and free overtime! How about that .50 cents a
|dozen eggs!! Once the “ Hispanic trail of tears “begins ,commence the
|civil rights violations!! Protesting will hit the streets and the far
|right waits….. I.  Violence , martial law and restrictions that are good
|for all of us. The majority has spoke! The New American stands proud!!
|I. Can’t.  Wait.  Good night and good luck.


  |u/Grand-Leg-1130 - 9 hours
  |
  |I just want to see the Trump voters who depend on SSA and or VA
  |benefits get their payments severely reduced or cut off when the Trump
  |admin and their Heritage Foundation masters come for their benefits.


    |u/huehuehuehuehuuuu - 8 hours
    |
    |Still won’t change their minds though. It’s not just the people at
    |the top who are dangerous. How easily entire populations get jerked
    |around to their own detriments without realizing what is actually
    |going wrong is just as dangerous.


      |u/Grand-Leg-1130 - 8 hours
      |
      |Oh I know that, I just want them to suffer alongside me.


    |u/taerin - 6 hours
    |
    |You *want* to see that? What the fuck is wrong with you?


      |u/sassynapoleon - 6 hours
      |
      |They caused this. It’s their fault. We are all going to suffer but
      |they deserve it, and I for one will not shed a tear for people who
      |vote against their own interests getting hurt by their votes.


        |u/taerin - 5 hours
        |
        |Just so I get this straight, you think there are vets who
        |deserve to lose their benefits? As well as elderly who depend on
        |SSA, you *want* to see them lose their benefits? Yes?


          |u/sassynapoleon - 4 hours
          |
          |I don’t want anyone to lose their benefits. But I am truly out
          |of empathy. trump campaigned on hurting people. His supporters
          |cheered on the notion of his enemies being caused pain. They
          |vote against NJ getting hurricane aid then come hat in hand
          |when it’s their town.  There is going to be a lot of hurt
          |caused by this administration, much of it intentional and even
          |more through incompetence. So yes, if you vote to hurt others,
          |I will shed no tears when the pain comes back around. 


            |u/taerin - 4 hours
            |
            |You should probably take a step back and read everything
            |again because what you got going on ain’t a good look.


              |u/strand_of_hair - 3 hours
              |
              |Yeah we want them to lose their damn benefits. Fully
              |fucking deserved. Your dumbass “gotcha” is nothing.


      |u/Grand-Leg-1130 - 2 hours
      |
      |I DGAF about the trump crowd anymore and I'm tired of being nice
      |to a bunch of half sapient fucks, they have it coming, simple as
      |that.


    |u/Remote-Ad-2686 - 8 hours
    |
    |Unfortunately, it appears , few people get what’s coming.  75% of
    |government are working veterans.  When the great “melt up “
    |continues , no one will be able to control the inflation. No one
    |will get 2 dollar gas , or tax free social security or overtime.
    |Once the great “ Hispanic trail of tears” begins , civil rights
    |protesters will hit the streets and … the far right waits.  Once the
    |justice department supports the far right and not the protestors …
    |martial law is declared and more security laws are enacted for the
    |good of the public. The political enemies of the right will be
    |paraded before nation wide television. Nothing since the McCarthy
    |years has anything been so entertaining. The justice department will
    |drop serious charges as they are all hauled off into jail. We
    |deserve what’s to come. The “ New American “ has spoken. Good night
    |and good luck.


  |u/Master_Debatin - 8 hours
  |
  |This didn’t happen even remotely last time, you sound manic.


    |u/Remote-Ad-2686 - 8 hours
    |
    |Hispanic families weren’t split up at the border. Children to this
    |day haven’t been reunited with their Moms…. No? Didn’t happen?


    |u/Remote-Ad-2686 - 8 hours
    |
    |So “ last time “, the proud boys weren’t attacking BLM? The proud
    |boys weren’t sent to jail over their violence?


      |u/Master_Debatin - 8 hours
      |
      |They may have , the proud boys are horrendous, BLM was also
      |horrendous, their followers were torching cities..


        |u/Remote-Ad-2686 - 8 hours
        |
        |And the children at the border? Too bad for them huh… I guess
        |our moral compass broke.


        |u/Diarygirl - 8 hours
        |
        |No, that was all the white supremacists and cops. We used to
        |laugh at you Fox News watchers because of how gullible you all
        |were.


          |u/Master_Debatin - 8 hours
          |
          |Seen it in person in downtown Milwaukee , you sound a little
          |crazy there honestly. But this is why no one voted Democrat at
          |any level this election 🤣🤣


          |u/Chihuahua1 - 7 hours
          |
          |Next big riots will be left wingers on 20th January, just like
          |last time. Reddit had front page threads back then promoting
          |the laugh at trump events that ends up as riots 


    |u/pobbitbreaker - 8 hours
    |
    |fear mongering actually, i know im bipolar


  |u/BlameTheJunglerMore - 7 hours
  |
  |Lmao. Someone needs to get off the far lefts propaganda


    |u/Remote-Ad-2686 - 7 hours
    |
    |I’m on your side.  I want all of it. We deserve all of it, come what
    |may. 2 dollar gas!! Yes!


      |u/BlameTheJunglerMore - 6 hours
      |
      |On what side, I'm an Independent.


|u/amithecrazyone69 - 5 hours
|
|I bet the people monitoring trumps phone in realtime are like “Jesus get
|off of social media Donald “


|u/ARGENTAVIS9000 - 4 hours
|
|how to get what you want from a narcissist 101: "pretend that you're on
|his team"


|u/tigerjuice888 - 6 hours
|
|Who wouldn’t be ready to work with a moron they can easily take
|advantage of.


|u/SwvellyBents - 8 hours
|
|We'll take negotiating with a moron, thanks!  Buh bye, Joe.


|u/UsefulImpact6793 - 5 hours
|
|I'm sure [trump and his daughter are eager to abuse their official
|positions for personal
|profit](https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/22/ivankas-
|trademark-requests-were-fast-tracked-in-china-after-trump-was-elected/)
|again by kneeling to Xi to have over 40 trademarks fast-tracked in
|China, which is typically very difficult for foreigners to do over
|there.


|u/Gone_4_Tea - 3 hours
|
|Unfortunately Diplomacy is one thing considered unnecessary under
|federal efficiency guidelines please conduct future discussions with our
|profiteers department.


|u/finniruse - 1 hour
|
|The Chinese economy is on the brink. It's like a house of cards. There's
|already mass unemployment. And half the population is invested in
|useless real estate. Any tariffs would wreck the country while the US
|would probably do well out of protectionism. China is so much more
|reliant on US trade than the US.


|u/mysticsavage - 7 hours
|
|Translation buggered...he meant China is ready to work the Trump
|administration.


|u/MagmaManOne - 7 hours
|
|…. And there goes Taiwan


|u/Hour-School-2255 - 9 hours
|
|Like he hasn't already been working with trump, can't have a puppet
|without a little effort


|u/Fundies900 - 7 hours
|
|Good for Dow Jones plus 5% on Monday.


|u/namotous - 7 hours
|
|It would be news worthy if he said otherwise


|u/DappyHayes - 8 hours
|
|Highlight the "ready" part only. They helped put him there. He will work
|for them. And will not realize.


|u/Random-Name-7160 - 7 hours
|
|They have his salary and annual deliverables all lined up.


|u/_chip - 6 hours
|
|Well Mr. Xi, don’t fear the Reaper..


|u/AdministrativeBank86 - 5 hours
|
|He already met Trump privately when he was in office last time. No one
|knows what was discussed


|u/Tiger-Billy - 3 hours
|
|Xi Jinping might misunderstand Trump's administration and its new
|international policies. The next American leader, Trump, wanted to ruin
|China's national economy if he had the chance. Above all, he would try
|very severe tariff policies on Chinese products and goods. Trump doesn't
|want to give China access to the US's huge domestic markets in the first
|place. Because Xi's government has already exposed its sharp fangs to
|the US's international defense, his diplomatic expert Wang built the
|whole picture of China's dream.   However, Trump's administration won't
|admit China's ambitious dream and diplomatic plans since the People's
|Republic of China became the primary foe of the US. For instance, the
|PLA's naval fleets have deployed a number of warships and submarines to
|challenge America's military power at sea. It created obnoxious moments
|for Trump. Trump's major missions are the deportation of illegal
|immigrants, severe punishment against China's rise, ending the war
|between Russia and Ukraine, and rebuilding US military power, according
|to his latest announcements.   On top of that, Trump's presidential
|aides are all anti-China, and they don't like the ideology of PC and DEI
|in US society. As a result, Xi might have had an unrealistic dream for
|himself. Trump doesn't want to establish a peaceful connection with
|China.


    |u/Gerald_the_sealion - 9 hours
    |
    |He’s just a really lonely person with who doesn’t know how to
    |express himself. Poor fella


    |u/Kubocho - 9 hours
    |
    |Biden administration is the sole repondible for Trump rise


        |u/Kubocho - 9 hours
        |
        |I highly doubt that Italian Fascism has anything to do with
        |Trump’s policies.


          |u/Bumbum_2919 - 9 hours
          |
          |It's not a fucking champagne, it does not require a specific
          |geographic origin


          |u/gayfrogs4alexjones - 8 hours
          |
          |Trump is very much reminiscent of the machismo based Italian
          |fascism of the Mussolini era


    |u/Ok_Garden_4842 - 9 hours
    |
    |Yooo this is comedy, imagine thinking Trump is the puppet when Biden
    |doesn’t even know what day it is.


      |u/Beavers225 - 9 hours
      |
      |He is putins puppet. You are repeating the same dumb shit you hear
      |from Fox News. You are also a moron, and I am praying for your
      |financial hardships


      |u/Beavers225 - 9 hours
      |
      |Like imagine voting for someone who is a rapist and heavily
      |involved with Epstein, and wants to ruin our democracy. What an
      |embarrassment


      |u/Goat_Status_5000 - 9 hours
      |
      |Neither does Trump.  Trump is 78 years old.


      |u/tmax1976 - 9 hours
      |
      |Calm down fake patriot. Coming from the fascism sellout who brags
      |about supporting a sex offender and election cheat, you do sure
      |have a lot of keyboard confidence. You can be anti America all
      |you’d like, but you aren’t convincing anyone of your narrative.
      |End of discussion.


      |u/Islanduniverse - 9 hours
      |
      |Imagine supporting a rapist.


      |u/juxtapose519 - 9 hours
      |
      |Your whole comment history reads like someone who wasn't athletic
      |enough to be an athlete, but wasn't smart enough to be anything
      |other than an athlete. Sit down, mouth breather.


|u/PMzyox - 8 hours
|
|The art of the deal with the devil