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What do you consider to be the biggest scam?



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|u/FistingSub007 - 9 hours
|
|Luxottica owning 90% of the glasses industry and artificially inflating
|the cost of a pair of glasses made of plastic into the hundreds of
|dollars when the 10% of companies not owned by them, I.E. Warby Parker
|and Zenni Optical can do it for a third of the price.


  |u/RIP_GerlonTwoFingers - 7 hours
  |
  |I can get a pair of Zenni prescription glasses for $20.


    |u/rumblepony247 - 5 hours
    |
    |Zenni is a gift from the Gods


      |u/FistingSub007 - 5 hours
      |
      |I buy all my glasses from Zenni and I get all the fixins for like
      |$150 tops.


    |u/MenuOwn - 5 hours
    |
    |My first pair of Zeno glasses in 2014 were 5.95. They scratched
    |easily but I would buy 3 or 4 pairs and just switched out. Not it’s
    |35$ but scratch resistant ( not to my standards ) and
    |photocromatic. Glasses and sunglasses. They have every style in the
    |world.


  |u/thinkB4WeSpeak - 3 hours
  |
  |Nearly every industry in the US is an oligopoly and it doesn't get
  |talked about enough


    |u/PIP_PM_PMC - 2 hours
    |
    |You can thank Saint Ronnie for that.


  |u/T0mBd1gg3R - 6 hours
  |
  |Is this on global scale or local?


    |u/LittleNobody60 - 5 hours
    |
    |Global. 60 Minutes did an exposé on it. It’s crazy.


  |u/irun50 - 5 hours
  |
  |Pretty sure Walmart and Costco optical shops aren’t owned by Lux.
  |Target Optical and LensCrafters are Lux properties though.


  |u/francokitty - 4 hours
  |
  |I bought Warby Patker glasses and they reamed me on the cost of the
  |lenses.  Will never buy from them again


  |u/Honeyalmondbagel - 6 hours
  |
  |And not to mention the owner died, so his kids who are in their early
  |20s each inherited $5 billion. Yay 🎉🥳😵‍💫


  |u/Aware_Impression_736 - 4 hours
  |
  |America's Best. $69 gets you an exam and two pair of glasses. But
  |only if your prescription falls within certain parameters. I ended up
  |paying $350.


|u/bought_high_sold_low - 8 hours
|
|Having to pay for daily parking at your place of employment


  |u/Hetotope - 8 hours
  |
  |free parking is listed in my works benefits guide as a perk... WTF do
  |you mean it's a fucking perk, I come to work, parking should always
  |be free ffs, I HAVE to park in your lot.


    |u/Previous-Job-391 - 7 hours
    |
    |Consider yourself lucky. Parking at my job is $100/month & I had to
    |negotiate with my employer to pay for it. They only went 50/50 on
    |it so I still pay $50/month just to be able to go to work lmao🫠


      |u/Anoaba - 7 hours
      |
      |I pay $70 a month 🙃 that’s after my employer pays some


        |u/BaconPit - 5 hours
        |
        |This is my first time hearing about this shit. Can I just ask,
        |"what the actual fuck"?


        |u/No_Engineering_718 - 6 hours
        |
        |Don’t forget about the gas you use to drive to work.


      |u/goddammitryan - 5 hours
      |
      |It’s $400/month in my city! Forces a lot of people to use
      |transit, I guess.


      |u/Kimbeci - 6 hours
      |
      |WTF this is crazy! In The Netherlands its just a 'facility'  the
      |companies should provide or pay for. I work in a factory with
      |around 1500 more people. They build their own parking garage for
      |the werkers.... as it should be.


    |u/FukYourGoodbye - 7 hours
    |
    |If I wasn’t at work, I wouldn’t need to park. I’m tired of things
    |listed as free that should be free. If I rent this apartment I
    |should be able to park on front of it but now I need a permit…TF,
    |the only attraction to this block is living on it.


  |u/PositivePassenger453 - 7 hours
  |
  |universities as well


    |u/MamaTMoney - 6 hours
    |
    |paying to park at the university where I work…and then my nurse
    |friend has to pay to work at the hospital


    |u/sailor_bat_90 - 6 hours
    |
    |Also hospitals. I'm happy I work the grave shift parking is easier
    |to find for free.


  |u/whateverp123 - 7 hours
  |
  |That's a thing?


    |u/bought_high_sold_low - 7 hours
    |
    |Yep, the parking garage that's part of my office building downtown
    |is not owned by my employer (which is crazy since my employer owns
    |the building), so employees have to pay to park since the employer
    |isn't covering it..


      |u/whateverp123 - 7 hours
      |
      |I'm starting to understand public freakouts more and more. That
      |is bullshit


        |u/bought_high_sold_low - 7 hours
        |
        |It gets really fun when employers will sell their office
        |building/parking to a sister company and then lease it back to
        |the first company at higher rates to suck profits out of the
        |main entity and line the pockets of fewer owners of the sister
        |company vs the big operating company. And then when your
        |employees all want to work remote and you lose that income at
        |the sister company then you gotta force them all back to the
        |office.


          |u/styxxx80 - 6 hours
          |
          |That’s why a lot of chain restaurants folded.  Parent company
          |sold the property and rent sky rocketed


  |u/throwaway4231throw - 6 hours
  |
  |On one hand I totally think that employers should cover the cost of
  |these things because employees have to go in, but on the other, I do
  |support incentivizing use of public transit or alternatives or
  |private vehicles, and there are so few levers to pull that forcing
  |people to pay for parking is often one of the most effective ways to
  |get people to consider alternates to driving.


    |u/moschtert - 2 hours
    |
    |Context is important. I work in a central location in a big
    |European city with plenty of public transit and biking options. I
    |think parking should absolutely cost money at my work and luckily
    |it does.


  |u/Top_Shoe_9562 - 7 hours
  |
  |When I was a commercial glazier in the greater Seattle area, paid
  |parking was in our contract, but we had to pay up front and we'd get
  |compensated on our next check. It was tough for people just starting
  |out


  |u/b_tight - 7 hours
  |
  |Ive turned down 2 jobs because of it.  Not because of the cost of it
  |but because if the company is that cheap in parking i cant imagine
  |what else theyre skimping on


  |u/automatorsassemble - 4 hours
  |
  |It's part of something I was always told to factor in, the cost of
  |going to work: is there paid parking, fuel costs, bus fares if
  |needed, is there a free/subsided canteen etc. I live really rurally
  |so have to drive a ways to work, I spend €400/month on fuel and the
  |canteen is subsided but probably spend another €100 /month on lunches
  |even if I make some at home


|u/Megnuggets - 9 hours
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|Ticketmaster


  |u/Alarming-Setting-592 - 8 hours
  |
  |Yes! And all the resellers like StubHub, Seat Geek, and Vivid! The
  |amount of fees they are allowed to add to tickets is highway robbery!
  |Why are fees based on percentages, rather than a flat fee? I recently
  |bought 3 tickets for around $300 each and the total fees were an
  |additional $400! WTF!?! And the fact that tickets can be resold for
  |astronomical amounts of money (hello Era’s tour) is out of this
  |world!! Something has to be done about it. And the artists aren’t
  |profiting off of these markups and fees. It’s so difficult to see a
  |live show these days without breaking the bank.


    |u/NateLPonYT - 8 hours
    |
    |Especially considering the fact that people used to easily buy
    |tickets before it without paying extra fees. But unfortunately many
    |concerts, sports events, etc. force their tickets onto these sites


      |u/cupholdery - 8 hours
      |
      |It's like if DoorDash became the only place to keep food
      |deliveries, so you have to pay a required fee to them to simply
      |order food and pick it up yourself.


        |u/jcrreddit - 6 hours
        |
        |NYC restaurants used to have their own delivery services OR
        |various small delivery services. Often times it was free within
        |a certain area because otherwise… nobody buys your fucking food
        |and you don’t stay in business.  Now it’s almost all UberEats
        |or DoorDash or whatever the fuck and if you want ANY restaurant
        |food delivered to you it’s an ungodly amount of money.  Even
        |for NYC!


      |u/Glittering_knave - 7 hours
      |
      |If I can't buy the tickets in any other manner, there should not
      |be hidden "convenience" fees allowed. It's not really convenient
      |when I have no choice in the matter.


    |u/BrokenCowsSayWoof - 7 hours
    |
    |I bought Astros tickets on StubHub in October. The tickets
    |themselves cost $40 for two. Then they added taxes and fees. Boom
    |my final total was $77.


    |u/biebiedoep - 7 hours
    |
    |Not buying the tickets would help forcing a change


  |u/Thejustinset - 5 hours
  |
  |Ticketmaster scalps their own tickets and regulators have done fuck
  |all about it


    |u/Semi_Lovato - 5 hours
    |
    |That's what killed it.  They used to not allow scalpers at all but
    |now they operate the scalping site and they make a service fee
    |every time the ticket resells.  $85 used to be a good seat at an
    |all day multi band event but now it's hundreds for cheap seats at
    |any popular event


  |u/GrumpyCoo - 7 hours
  |
  |Ticketmaster is one of the primary reasons I stopped going to
  |concerts...


  |u/InternationalFig400 - 7 hours
  |
  |ticket bastard


  |u/twelve112 - 6 hours
  |
  |No kidding, they really are just selling me a paper with a code on it
  |to permit me into an event for a couple hours.


  |u/urumqi_circles - 8 hours
  |
  |Yeah, fuck Michael Rapino, their CEO.  I have no idea how this guy
  |doesn't get more hate and isn't seen on equal "evil" territory as
  |guys like Elon Musk, Koch Brothers, Galen Weston in Canada, etc.


  |u/Past-Cut-2795 - 7 hours
  |
  |It’s less about buying tickets and more about experiencing *peak
  |frustration* while watching fees pile up


  |u/lloyd705 - 6 hours
  |
  |Ticketmaster is the smallest man who ever lived 🫶🏻


  |u/spookyydog - 7 hours
  |
  |Bought tickets for an event recently. Two for 300 hundred each. Final
  |total 820 bucks. Absolute bullshit


|u/CurvyFlowerzx - 10 hours
|
|Printer ink. My printer cost $50 but replacing all the cartridges costs
|$75. Make it make sense.


  |u/lfreckledfrontbum - 10 hours
  |
  |Laser printer. Upfront cost, but pays in dividends


    |u/Impossible_Angle752 - 8 hours
    |
    |That's what we did. We gave up color for longevity.


      |u/radiantpenguin991 - 6 hours
      |
      |But really, how often did you NEED color? If I need to print
      |photos, I can go to Kinkos or an equivalent and have them print
      |them and they'll do a better job.


      |u/Swimming-Ad4869 - 7 hours
      |
      |I’m still printing shit on the one I bought in 2009!


      |u/CaptainPunisher - 6 hours
      |
      |Color laser printers aren't super expensive. I bought an office
      |machine with print, copy, scan, fax with duplexing in color for
      |$300 in 2014 when I went back to school. My wife thought I was
      |crazy paying so much, but in the term years I've had it, I've
      |only paid about $180 for toner in total. Also, I buy the refill
      |kits, not toner cartridges.   Ink bottle printers are also out
      |there and have come down in price.


    |u/MarciMay24 - 9 hours
    |
    |How long have you owned it and how long do you expect it to last?
    |Sorry planned opsolesence got me. But seriously I'm curious,
    |because Im a review reader and researcher when I buy. Thank you!


      |u/CaptainPeachfuzz - 8 hours
      |
      |I used to work at a university IT dept.  Every year they're have
      |a sale on any equipment they were trying to get rid of. Once I
      |saw a laser printer that I definitely had worked on and fixed
      |less than a year ago. Bought it for $20.  Took it home, replaced
      |the rollers and got a new toner cart for it. Cost me another $30?
      |that was 2012 and it still works fine. I don't print much these
      |days but it saved me in grad school. It's fast and prints double
      |sided, no color though.


        |u/FragilousSpectunkery - 7 hours
        |
        |I bought a surplus HP 5m for like $40, and it lasted 10 years
        |for me.


      |u/deliciouslyevil - 8 hours
      |
      |I bought a Brother laser printer in 2007. Still going, on its
      |second toner cartridge. Well worth the initial cost.


      |u/Saneless - 9 hours
      |
      |I bought one when I first was asked to work from home in March
      |2020. Cost me $180, some brother 3210 I think  It made it through
      |me printing out my reports and charts to see how they looked all
      |over the place, a year of kids' home assignments, and my gf
      |printing out forms constantly for who knows what, and lots of
      |random things  I finally had to change out my starter toner a
      |year ago. I opted for the double size black one for $75 and the
      |colors weren't very much but they'll be good another 3-4 years


        |u/carlosccextractor - 8 hours
        |
        |Brother seems to make the best printers. Mine is 10 years old
        |(color laser), I don't use it a lot but it's still with the
        |original toners.  Zero problems.


      |u/boomdog07 - 8 hours
      |
      |I have an HP Color Laserjet that is sneaking up on 10 years old.
      |I think it’s 8 or 9 can’t remember exactly when I bought it for
      |$459. Still works flawlessly and I buy recycled toner carts for
      |1/4 the price of the HP ones they haven’t caused any problems
      |yet.


      |u/kewissman - 8 hours
      |
      |I have been using two HP LaserJets, one black and white, one
      |color, for over 12 years.   Use only 2nd party toner carts bought
      |on fleaBay.   Everything is wunnerful.


  |u/Juergen2993 - 9 hours
  |
  |Printer: Low on cyan. Me: “It’s okay, I’m only printing in black and
  |white.” Printer: LOW ON CYAN, BITCH!


    |u/Saneless - 9 hours
    |
    |Why I'll never get a Canon again:  Sorry, you can't use the scanner
    |to turn that document into a PDF because you're out of yellow ink


      |u/CaptainPeachfuzz - 8 hours
      |
      |I had an HP that wouldn't copy because it couldn't connect to the
      |internet.


        |u/Klonoadice - 8 hours
        |
        |HP sucks. I smashed one earlier this year.


          |u/Aware_Impression_736 - 4 hours
          |
          |You went full Initech.


          |u/domesticatedprimate - 4 hours
          |
          |There is nothing more cathartic then yanking a printer with
          |the cables still attached and throwing it out the window.
          |Sadly I lived on the first floor at the time, so it was a bit
          |of an anti climax.


        |u/CaptainPunisher - 6 hours
        |
        |I try to warn friends against buying modern HP printers. They
        |might be OK if you don't opt into the ink on demand service,
        |but once you do that there's no going back. My neighbor did
        |that, HP updated the firmware, neighbors tried to cancel, and
        |HP told them they couldn't cancel and roll back the firmware;
        |the best they could do was to buy a different printer.
        |Seriously, fuck HP printers.


        |u/AnytimeInvitation - 8 hours
        |
        |I get to look forward to that. Just moved house and just got
        |internet. I wanna smash that lil HP so badly.


      |u/Shoddy-Computer2377 - 8 hours
      |
      |My Epson won't print jack shit if _any_ of the cartridges are
      |depleted.  You need to print out a Word document?  Nahbro, red
      |tank is empty.  Go away.  You need to print out a Word document,
      |there is ink in the main black tank, but the "Photo Black" tank
      |is low or depleted?  Haha loser.  Likewise, the main black is
      |gone so can I pretty please use Photo Black instead?  Well, what
      |do you think.  The only saving grace is that it accepts knock-off
      |cartridges with nothing more than a polite warning about the
      |quality maybe not being as good.  Many printers won't even do
      |that.


    |u/drdeadringer - 7 hours
    |
    |Queue up Robin Williams in 1 hour photo.   I need more Cyan!


  |u/tc6x6 - 10 hours
  |
  |I bought a Brother laser printer/scanner. I've never been happier.


    |u/Past-Cut-2795 - 7 hours
    |
    |It’s like upgrading from a tricycle to a motorcycle.


  |u/Automatic-Concert-62 - 9 hours
  |
  |Just buy a Brother : https://www.theverge.com/23642073/best-
  |printer-2023-brother-laser-wi-fi-its-fine


  |u/robertsij - 9 hours
  |
  |That's the model   They sell you a printer for a loss then sell you
  |the ink at an insane markup


  |u/Jumpy_Cobbler7783 - 10 hours
  |
  |Next time buy an Epson Ecotank like I did.  Sure it will cost a
  |couple hundred more initially but save a fortune in ink.


    |u/DoubleOrNothing90 - 10 hours
    |
    |Thanks, Shaq.


      |u/Velghast - 10 hours
      |
      |The first time I saw that commercial I thought it was hilarious.
      |"If you're anything like me you're constantly worried about
      |printer ink"   Like really? I wouldn't think that Shaquille
      |O'Neal of all people is plagued by the constant threat of printer
      |ink prices.


        |u/WobblyBacon - 9 hours
        |
        |Well with the Epson EcoTank he isn't.


        |u/Weird_Fiches - 8 hours
        |
        |Yeah? Well who are YOU to know the concerns of the great
        |Shaquille O'Neal?


    |u/EmmaInFrance - 9 hours
    |
    |I didn't have to buy new ink for mine for two years - I use it
    |regularly to print boardgames rulebooks, in colour - and when I
    |did, it was the cyan ink only, and a bottle of Epson brand ink only
    |cost €8.  It wasn't even worth trying to find generic ink at that
    |price.


      |u/Jumpy_Cobbler7783 - 9 hours
      |
      |The important thing to remember with the Ecotank is to print
      |regularly in color otherwise the plumbing from the tank to the
      |print heads can clog and then you have to do a power clean and
      |hope that works.  And Epson printers don't like generic ink or
      |remanufactured cartridges on the older ones.  The reason I have
      |always used Epson is the separate ink colors - companies like HP
      |where all three are together is highway robbery.


    |u/becomejvg - 9 hours
    |
    |So planned Epsolesence.


  |u/Pinktiger11 - 9 hours
  |
  |Razor and blades. They usually sell printers at a loss because once
  |you have a printer it’s hard to justify switching to a different one,
  |and now you are stuck buying their ink basically forever. Do yourself
  |a favor and buy a laser printer


  |u/shewy92 - 9 hours
  |
  |The included cartridges are only like half full I think. Which is why
  |the separate ink costs more than the printer.


  |u/PowayCa - 8 hours
  |
  |I once saw a Fry’s ad for a Lexmark printer that said - “Free printer
  |with purchase of ink.” When I worked for HP, we sold the printers for
  |about 80% of manufacturing cost. Yes, we lost $$ on every printer.
  |When I worked at Kodak printer division, our mission was sell the
  |printer at a very small profit and sell black ink for $10 and color
  |for $15. That made our printer 20% higher than similar… Do you see
  |any Kodak printers on the market? Hint: NO!


  |u/PJHFortyTwo - 10 hours
  |
  |The printer was a loss leader for a business that's only really
  |interested in long-term ink sales.


  |u/bigev007 - 10 hours
  |
  |Replacement cartridges hold way more ink


|u/bdbr - 10 hours
|
|The biggest scam is one we all just accept and take anyway. Like
|commercials on paid subscriptions, and sites that we can only use if we
|sign away all indemnity.


  |u/RemyOregon - 8 hours
  |
  |My favorite thing about my Amazon TV now is that upon powering on,
  |it’s IMMEDIATE ADS. Wasn’t that way when I bought it. They just find
  |new ways to sneak em in and there’s nothing we can do about it.
  |Marketing is a remarkably easy career choice these days now that all
  |product integrity has been thrown out the door.


    |u/CaptainPunisher - 5 hours
    |
    |Have you ever considered piracy? You'd make an excellent Dread
    |Pirate Roberts.


    |u/doneski - 6 hours
    |
    |I go for the dummy TV, focusing on the overall picture quality,
    |refresh rate, etc. big box stores have these smart TVs for cheaper
    |but the trade-off is the ads. I use an NVIDIA Shield for just about
    |everything, that's the extent of my ads. Otherwise it's just inputs
    |to other media devices.   Long story long, stay out of Best Buy and
    |other box box stores, order your TVs moving forward. You'll enjoy
    |not having them dictate to you the "experience." 


      |u/RemyOregon - 4 hours
      |
      |It was a software update that I never accepted that started the
      |ads on start up. That’s what pisses me off about it. I just want
      |the same shit I bought 4 years ago.   I did just get an LG C
      |series for the other room tho and that motherfucker is now my
      |favorite.


    |u/Porn_Extra - 4 hours
    |
    |Dude, I *hate* Walmart, but I was in the market for a new streaming
    |box snd heard everyone say the onn 4k pro is good. I held my nose
    |and picked one up. It's just a straight Google TV experience with
    |no extra ads. You can even out it into app only mode.   The only
    |downside is that the remote doesn't control your TV or audio
    |device. But it has internal audio controls, so I just turn my
    |soundboard up and control the internal volume.   It's SO MUCH
    |better than any fire tv.


  |u/Different-Horror-581 - 8 hours
  |
  |We get mad about billboards on the road but allow them in our living
  |rooms.


    |u/jwbrkr21 - 8 hours
    |
    |Who gets mad about billboards?


      |u/Dodson-504 - 7 hours
      |
      |Some places ban billboards because its visual blight.


    |u/BullshitUsername - 7 hours
    |
    |Sounds clever but actually nonsense.


  |u/RIP_GerlonTwoFingers - 7 hours
  |
  |Amazon.  My wife won’t let me get rid of it because she likes the
  |crappy holiday baking shows on there. But the moment they added ads
  |to some movies and shows I wanted to axe it


|u/Ignoth - 9 hours
|
|Multi Level Marketing.  * Working for money is a job.  * Working for no
|money is slavery  * Working while LOSING money is an MLM.


  |u/redRum705 - 8 hours
  |
  |Back when I was probably 18/19 years old (I’m 34 now), I had a co-
  |worker who told me about this “business”, obviously never went into
  |detail about anything but told me they were having a conference. I
  |showed up, I was at awe with the speakers but at the end of it, I was
  |still genuinely confused on what this “business” even was. 😂.   Then
  |I learned about MLM afterwards and discovered what it’s all about. I
  |gotta say, the people that are in them, god bless 😂.   There’s a
  |YouTuber named “Always Marco”, been following him for years now and
  |he’s made plenty of videos on taking down some MLM companies. It’s
  |great


    |u/StoriesandStones - 6 hours
    |
    |1999, I was 23 and worked at a grocery store.  Younger co-worker
    |that I got along well with told me she was quitting, she was
    |starting a business and gonna be a millionaire! And I should do it
    |too!  Born a skeptic, but less annoying about it as I got older, I
    |said oh yeah? How ya gonna do that?  She showed me this DVD-ROM
    |that said “Quixtar” and was going on and on about how it was such a
    |great program and I’d be crazy to not do it too, I’ll regret it,
    |blah blah.   My skeptic senses tingled, “too good to be true” never
    |sounded remotely legit to me, for anything.  I once bought a
    |scratch-off and won $20 and took it to the gas station like “this
    |probably isn’t really $20 but could you check it just in case?”   I
    |was like ok sounds cool good luck.  Thinking no way was this thing
    |legit, this girl was 19, she was getting scammed but I guess better
    |she learns that now than when she’s older.  So she quit.  A few
    |months later, I got to catch her up on some minor changes at the
    |store when she came back to work there.  She didn’t mention why her
    |millionaire status had her back at the grocery store, and for once
    |in my obnoxious-ass youth, I didn’t bring it up.  Many years later
    |I was reading a lot of mlm info as I had a friend who got into Mary
    |Kay and was trying to convince me to join.  I did not.  But I did
    |find out that “Quixtar” was Amway trying to not sound like Amway.


      |u/kswildcatmom - 5 hours
      |
      |I joined Mary Kay when I was in my early twenties. I don’t know
      |what I was thinking! I had acne and acne scars and all makeup
      |looked like crap on me so there was no way I could convince
      |someone to buy it! 😅And my social circle was like three friends
      |who were poor like me. I spent most $200 on the whole kit. Stupid
      |stupid stupid!


      |u/QuickAd751 - 2 hours
      |
      |So what happened with the scratch card?


    |u/ColloquialCloaca - 6 hours
    |
    |Haha I had a classmate try to sucker me into one of these in high
    |school. I begged my mom for the money and she told me "absolutely
    |not, it's a scam" and I was so mad at the time! But now I'm glad
    |she had the common sense that I didn't. I still can't believe they
    |were allowing minors to buy in on their "business"


  |u/Past-Cut-2795 - 7 hours
  |
  |It’s like a pyramid, but instead of climbing it your burying yourself
  |alive in it


  |u/Equivalent-Syrup-506 - 7 hours
  |
  |I remember being 18 when a friend brought me to an event. I had no
  |clue what anything was and it was so fun and why not. But she’s like
  |we can make so much money! We went back to a house with one of the
  |guys that makes a ton of money and I kept asking questions because
  |none of it made sense. Why would I work hard and make YOU money and I
  |make nothing? I remember he was so irritated with me looking back.
  |All he cared about was his BMW and shit


  |u/code_delmonte - 6 hours
  |
  |I was 18 in college, I did cutco knife selling that was abysmal. I
  |past all of 1 day before quitting. The "pay structure" was such a
  |pyramid scheme but dumbass couldn't see it


  |u/gemsoftargon - 9 hours
  |
  |Had a coworker like this man. He loved to gamble to. I really don’t
  |get how people can’t see they’re getting scammed. They all think it’s
  |easy money and they’re gonna be rich.


    |u/Finn235 - 7 hours
    |
    |They see their uplines making bank. Wife was big on Lularoe
    |(thankfully just buying some of the leggings and not signing up)
    |and one of the ladies she followed "made" $60k per month, mostly
    |from kickbacks from her downlines. They make it seem like any idiot
    |can become a millionaire.  The reality of course is that your
    |obligations to the company grow with your "income", and often these
    |people are pressured into taking on massive debt to keep up the
    |appearances of a millionaire lifestyle in order to draw more people
    |in.


      |u/gemsoftargon - 7 hours
      |
      |Thanks for the insight. Makes more sense on they get folks to
      |sign up. I wonder if Scientology uses some of these same
      |practices with their scam.


  |u/Ziczak - 7 hours
  |
  |Don't forget all the mental games and abuse they give when you're not
  |performing.  It all trickles up to the top.  Qanon nuts love this
  |shit


  |u/skempoz - 6 hours
  |
  |Honestly I’ll never know how this isn’t illegal


|u/Prestigious_Emu6039 - 11 hours
|
|About half of all phone calls coming out of India.


  |u/KarateKid917 - 8 hours
  |
  |At work, on our main telephone line, I keep getting calls from
  |“Medicare about your joint pain.” Sure buddy. I mess with them and
  |ask them to describe my supposed pain. When they can’t, I tell them
  |the only pain I have is the pain in my ear from listening to them.
  |That usually gets them to hang up.   I want to pretend it’s a morgue
  |when I pick up, but since it’s a work line (at a nursing home no
  |less), I kinda can’t. 


    |u/JennJoy77 - 4 hours
    |
    |"Thank you for calling Abe Froman's crematory and sausage
    |factory...where today's grief is tomorrow's beef."


    |u/Osmo250 - 7 hours
    |
    |I answer "county morgue. You stab me we slab em". 🤣


      |u/KarateKid917 - 7 hours
      |
      |That’s the exact line I used to use when crap would call my
      |parent’s house phone (that they’ve since gotten rid of) 


  |u/FromundaCheeseLigma - 10 hours
  |
  |This is Harinder from the Air Duct Cleaning Serv- *click*


    |u/AskMeAboutPigs - 9 hours
    |
    |I see the ads for the same copy and text paste sad story all the
    |time, usually it's about their struggling business that's local and
    |a reduced rate. I've moved 3x and still see the more or less same
    |fucking ad on FB


      |u/FromundaCheeseLigma - 9 hours
      |
      |The times I've talked to them I said my address was the local
      |police station and farted into the mic lol


        |u/rottenbox - 9 hours
        |
        |I sent them to an address on my street that doesn't exist. They
        |actually showed up and called me. They were not happy.


          |u/Low_Car394 - 7 hours
          |
          |I gave them address to a mine in Baffin Island in the arctic.
          |Fuck those guys


    |u/PowayCa - 8 hours
    |
    |No exactly… “This is Kevin (in Harinder’s voice) from Air Duck
    |Cleaning”


      |u/Impossible_Angle752 - 8 hours
      |
      |I once had "Dave from VisaMastercard" call me.   His name
      |definitely wasn't Dave.


  |u/Raychao - 10 hours
  |
  |Half? Lol.


    |u/RemyOregon - 8 hours
    |
    |I would change this to customer service in general. If I’m calling
    |my bank, I don’t want to talk to someone in India that reads a
    |script then kicks it to the next person to read the same script in
    |broken English. Just a massive circle of nothing - no help. They
    |just wait til you hang up and fuck off


      |u/bremergorst - 8 hours
      |
      |Well I hang up but I certainly never fuck off  Never have, never
      |will


  |u/dellive - 9 hours
  |
  |If you pick that one call by mistake, it’s going to exponentially
  |increase for the next two weeks.


    |u/Square_Ad8710 - 8 hours
    |
    |I am currently job seeking and I answered a call that wasn't a Spam
    |Risk and fuck, some asshole talking about their new car warranty
    |program.  I was waiting for something else, and I am an asshole, so
    |I strung the guy on, asked him questions.  When he asked what kind
    |of car to I drove, I asked "My ride?"   He said "Yes, what is your
    |ride?"   I said "Your momma because she is a hoe who loves taking
    |my dick up her ass."   He hung up on me.  


      |u/skyteir - 8 hours
      |
      |chad


    |u/CoverYourSafeHand - 7 hours
    |
    |Was expecting a call back from someone else, answered one of these
    |calls by mistake.   The lady on the line told me that their offer
    |for a personal loan to me is expiring this week. I told her Thank
    |god! Does that mean you guys are finally going to stop calling me?
    |She told me she would take me off of their call list and I think
    |she actually did since I haven’t got another call from them since.


  |u/Beefwhistle007 - 7 hours
  |
  |Yeah, I don't think I've ever gotten a legitimate phone call from
  |India. I can't imagine a context in which someone from India would
  |call me.


  |u/BiLo-Brisket-King - 8 hours
  |
  |Half?!! If I answer the phone and I hear an Indian accent, I
  |instantly think scam and hang up. I’d say it’s closer to 80%, not
  |half.


  |u/DJBerryman - 7 hours
  |
  |If you're a "local" business but the call is coming from a crowded
  |call centre overseas, I'm not going to use you, ever


  |u/misanthrope2327 - 7 hours
  |
  |Half seems awfully generous


|u/EatYourCheckers - 8 hours
|
|Kenneth Copeland   Not just preying on people's greed to try to save
|money or get rich. But preying on their hope and faith.


  |u/EvaSirkowski - 3 hours
  |
  |The prosperity gospel is a fucking cancer and a plague upon those
  |preachers and their followers too.


  |u/G-Unit11111 - 5 hours
  |
  |Especially since he's gone all in on his Trump support.   Dude needs
  |to lose his tax exempt status immediately!


  |u/Earnestappostate - 6 hours
  |
  |>When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have
  |to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and
  |exaggerated claims: religion.   -George Carlin


|u/Desirable-Sweetheart - 10 hours
|
|Health insurance in America. Paying $400 monthly only to still have a
|$5000 deductible and argue with insurance companies about 'in-network'
|doctors. It's basically paying for the privilege of paying more.


  |u/sundownandout - 8 hours
  |
  |My husbands premium for family through his work went up $400 for
  |2025. I had to look into the marketplace and found a plan for around
  |little cheaper than what we were paying now. But I don’t know what’s
  |going to happen to the marketplace in the next few years.


    |u/hillbillytech - 7 hours
    |
    |And they provide nothing in return besides setting prices so high
    |that they are guaranteed to make a fortune.  I hate those bastards!


    |u/OddRaspberry3 - 7 hours
    |
    |My husband’s company insurance premium is like $80 for just him and
    |almost $300 for me and we don’t even have kids yet. It’s crazy.
    |Marketplace has some cheaper-ish plans but the deductible is
    |literally $15k so what’s the point


      |u/sundownandout - 7 hours
      |
      |Yeah. I think my husband pays around $50/mo for himself but it
      |was going to be $1200 to have us on his plan.   I couldn’t find
      |any with a deductible lower than $11-12k that had an affordable
      |premium. We don’t qualify for the premium credit but the plans
      |were still cheaper than what we would be paying on my husband’s
      |plan.


    |u/Apprehensive_Gain597 - 6 hours
    |
    |Don't worry, there is a concept of a plan.


  |u/tanstaafl90 - 9 hours
  |
  |The US government pays more per citizen than countries with
  |universal. This is outside the individual costs via private
  |insurance. It's a billion dollar industry based on consumer
  |ignorance.


    |u/itsagoodtime - 8 hours
    |
    |It's not ignorance when it's made up. Buy something from a store
    |and the price is on the shelf. Shop around and find it for a lower
    |price. Cost of healthcare is made up. You never know until the made
    |up bill arrives that the insurance made up what they cover.


      |u/229-northstar - 6 hours
      |
      |It’s usually marked up three times the real price so they can
      |negotiate rates with insurance companies


        |u/-something_original- - 2 hours
        |
        |Yep. I had some bouts of recurring pancreatitis that would
        |start in the ER and end 3-5 days inpatient. I’d see the bill
        |and the negotiated rate was pennies on the dollar. But if a
        |person was paying it they’d be on the hook for the full amount.


      |u/MsSanchezHirohito - 1 hour
      |
      |I went to the er 3 mths after my kidney transplant for feeling
      |acutely weak and lightheaded and it scared me. I was there for 1
      |hr, saw the dr for less than 3 minutes. They took my blood
      |pressure. I was fully covered through Medicare and backed up
      |through my health insurance who sent me a copy of the bill. It
      |was almost $6000. And the report I got from the visit was so much
      |bullshit I actually called the (imaginary all caps….> ) insurance
      |company itself to report the dr.  It’s not just the insurance
      |companies it’s the fkng drs and hospitals.


    |u/rottenbox - 8 hours
    |
    |And the health outcomes aren't better than other western countries
    |for the money.   Canada's system is far from perfect but my younger
    |child was in the NICU for 7 weeks. Our direct cost was parking. I
    |broke my ankle, cost was a walking boot (at market price, I
    |comparison shopped after) and parking. Vasectomy? Parking.


      |u/Neverthelilacqueen - 6 hours
      |
      |Jealous American here.


    |u/Cleercutter - 7 hours
    |
    |Ignorance? How the fuck does that make us ignorant? I know what’s
    |happening, I know I’m getting fucked in the ass. What am I supposed
    |to do about it as an individual?


  |u/Past-Cut-2795 - 7 hours
  |
  |It’s like paying for a VIP pass to a club that keeps kicking you out


  |u/Substantial-Box-8022 - 7 hours
  |
  |We have always used my husband's insurance because I was a SAHM for a
  |while, and it didn't make sense to switch when I went to work. But
  |because I could get insurance through my job, and decided to stick
  |with the family plan, we pay a $150 penalty per month because I
  |"refused" my employer's insurance. My husband reached out to HR if
  |that penalty is the difference in premium costs for a employee+family
  |plan, vs employee+kids, or if we will save an additional $150 on top
  |of that if I get my own insurance, but could not get an answer from
  |anyone. And who does that penalty even go to? It's a scam at every
  |level.


  |u/rroberts3439 - 7 hours
  |
  |I truly don't understand this one.  And it's maddening that you get
  |sick, many time for reasons you don't control and not only have to
  |worry about the illness but it's financial impact as well.  If I was
  |king for a day, this is the one thing I would change in the US as
  |fast as possible.  Would cost us no more as a country as it does
  |today.


  |u/techmaster242 - 6 hours
  |
  |I got a dental crown a few weeks ago. The dentist charged me about
  |$1000. Then I got the paperwork from the insurance company. They paid
  |the dentist about $200, I paid $1000, and they wrote off about $1600.
  |So the insurance company just forces the dentist to give me a
  |discount and they don't actually pay much of anything. I don't get
  |it.


  |u/coldfishcat - 8 hours
  |
  |No we love our insurance companies. They make our dicks hard. I think
  |that was the main Republican argument against any talk towards single
  |payer. I'm convinced at this point, the right is more concerned with
  |being anti-left than bettering the country.


    |u/Xanadu87 - 7 hours
    |
    |I seem to recall the Republican argument about government single-
    |payer healthcare is that there would be “death panels“ to determine
    |care, but that’s a bunk argument because that’s what insurance
    |companies already do


  |u/shepardshe - 6 hours
  |
  |My health insurance is more than my mortgage. The price of life


|u/unclewombie - 9 hours
|
|Subscription models on everything. Cars! Ink! Tv! Useless apps! Games
|you paid full amounts for! Micro transactions ruin games so badly. I
|mean the list is endless. It is pure insanity and we pay for it, so
|they keep doing it.


|u/Major-Check-1953 - 10 hours
|
|Payday loans. The interest rates are atrocious. They prey on the poor.


  |u/APizzaWithEverything - 8 hours
  |
  |I took a payday loan once, made 2 payments and then changed my bank
  |account


    |u/SoftWalkerBigStik - 7 hours
    |
    |I did this too back in the day and most were some tribal
    |corporations out in the Midwest.   Payday loans are now banned here
    |in Massachusetts.


    |u/Hy-phen - 7 hours
    |
    |😠Good. Fuck those goblins.


      |u/APizzaWithEverything - 6 hours
      |
      |It was really funny when I’d get calls from “the FBI” threatening
      |to suspend my drivers license if I didn’t pay  I told them to go
      |ahead because I moved states, and didn’t have that license
      |anymore


        |u/Hy-phen - 6 hours
        |
        |👍😁👍Hahahaha good for you!  Edit: food for you? I meant good.
        |Good for you.


  |u/hamorbacon - 8 hours
  |
  |I keep seeing commercials for those payday loans on Hulu, really hope
  |people don’t fall for them.


    |u/bonos_bovine_muse - 7 hours
    |
    |Of course people fall* for them, they wouldn’t keep running them
    |otherwise.  \*don’t have any other choice besides homelessness 


  |u/Timely-Inspector3248 - 6 hours
  |
  |The best thing my state did was outlaw those paycheck advance stores.
  |Used to have a ton here and now there’s zero.


  |u/shadowimage - 8 hours
  |
  |Ruined my life for 2 years. Fuck those assholes and fuck me for being
  |poor


  |u/stoneman9284 - 9 hours
  |
  |That’s not a scam. It’s just predatory.


|u/TobogonXero - 9 hours
|
|Alkaline Water  It's does nothing. It's just bad tasting water.
|Nothing marketing claims is true.


  |u/dartdoug - 8 hours
  |
  |You can add a squeeze of lemon to make it taste better!  /s


  |u/ExpandKnowhow - 7 hours
  |
  |And depending on the chemical making it alkaline, it can increase
  |your chances of kidney stones


  |u/maxboondoggle - 7 hours
  |
  |It sounds like a battery.


    |u/Tyflowshun - 7 hours
    |
    |Battery water baby! Get fucking charged! They don't tell you the
    |secret stuff is alkaline water. No go beat those Mon-Stars!


  |u/patty_ice420 - 6 hours
  |
  |I find it can help with acid reflux


    |u/Unicorn_8632 - 5 hours
    |
    |I have also experienced this - thought it may have been all in my
    |head. When I had some “regular” water, I had awful heart burn the
    |rest of the day, even though I didn’t eat anything that would have
    |caused heart burn.


|u/atticusfinch1973 - 9 hours
|
|The entire wedding industry, from the two months salary diamond, to the
|engagement photos to the need to spend tens of thousands of dollars on
|a party where everything is three times as expensive as usual because
|it has the word wedding attached to it.


  |u/theAshleyRouge - 7 hours
  |
  |Not to mention wedding venue prices. Absolutely ridiculous


    |u/MenudoFan316 - 6 hours
    |
    |Oh, would you like your guests to breath at the reception?  We have
    |a 25 dollar per guest oxygen supply fee.  Would you like your
    |guests to be able to use the restroom at their convenience during
    |the celebration?  You're in luck.  If you book in the next week, we
    |are running a special.  Only 15 dollars per guest for that special
    |allowance.  Now how many people will be attending?


  |u/1980kw - 6 hours
  |
  |I know 2 different couples that have gotten married within the last
  |year or so and each wedding was over $50,000. I’ll have to stay
  |single for that price.


    |u/Flamburghur - 6 hours
    |
    |Or just find someone that is on the same page as you re:
    |priorities?


  |u/Embarrassed-Skin2770 - 5 hours
  |
  |To be fair, part of it is how obnoxious people get about their
  |wedding and how quick many are to break contracts/sue/cancel payments
  |etc because the wind blew awkwardly on their “special day.” So many
  |wedding patrons can be unreasonable and use the slightest error as an
  |excuse to be terrible. Think of how many awful bride/groom stories
  |exist, even against their own guests. Then imagine that but targeted
  |at “the help.”  One venue I knew of only allowed photographers who
  |were insured so if the equipment got damaged by a wedding guest the
  |venue wouldn’t be held liable. An insured photographer is going to
  |cost a little bit more than someone who risks not being insured. Or a
  |bakery might charge more for a wedding cake because weddings can very
  |easily end up changing or canceling and disgruntled customers don’t
  |see why they have to pay for someone’s work, OR more often than not,
  |they expect a different quality of work because it’s their ✨wedding✨
  |as opposed to a regular birthday party, even if the baker does a good
  |job on all their work regardless.   I’m not saying some prices aren’t
  |outrageous or taking advantage of folks with wedding goggles on, but
  |it’s not as simple as some one-sided industry of expense for no
  |reason.


  |u/styxxx80 - 6 hours
  |
  |My entire wedding was under 10k with around 100 guests and 2500 ring


  |u/beertruck77 - 4 hours
  |
  |Diamonds aren't rare or really even valuable. They are just an
  |incredibly effective marketing scheme.


  |u/41VirginsfromAllah - 5 hours
  |
  |My mom passed away about a year before my wedding. The “thank you” or
  |whatever you call them cards we sent out to people that sent flowers
  |and stuff cost about 1/3 as much as the exact same cards we sent out
  |for our wedding from the same place. Only difference was what they
  |printed on them.


  |u/Trendbeautybrit - 1 hour
  |
  |I was just married two weeks ago! We had the wedding of our dreams
  |that was so unconventional that people loved it… I refused to pay for
  |a party for our friends to celebrate us. We had the most magical
  |wedding and the most magical “reception.” we got married in a
  |community garden that cost us $100 and we had a reception as an after
  |party pub crawl, and it was amazing and we didn’t pay for anybody.
  |Normalize not having hundred thousand dollar weddings.


|u/StunningMadamyolo - 10 hours
|
|Internet service providers advertising 'up to' certain speeds. I'm
|paying for 'up to' 100mbps but getting 15 on a good day. It's like
|paying for a full tank of gas but only getting a quarter.


  |u/OilVamp - 8 hours
  |
  |Like having a speedometer that goes up to 200, but you cant speed
  |past 80


    |u/dfc849 - 5 hours
    |
    |Another piece of this analogy is figuring out whether it's the
    |engine or the road that's the problem. If you're having engine
    |problems, you hold the seller accountable. If the road isn't
    |suitable for 200, you take a different road.      I had gigabit
    |internet access 15 years ago and many content providers (roads)
    |that hosted files didn't care to allow downloading higher than
    |100Mbps. Speed test websites would show gigabit every time though.


  |u/ECoult771 - 7 hours
  |
  |They have to say ‘up to’.  There are FAR too many variables that come
  |into play for them to promise any kind of particular speed.  It’s not
  |a scam, it’s actually a bit of honesty once you know the tech behind
  |it all


  |u/Newish88 - 7 hours
  |
  |You may be able to fix this by calling your provider if you have a
  |certain type of internet.  We were able to fix it this way and are
  |now getting the full speed all the time. 


  |u/RareFatAfrican - 5 hours
  |
  |Sorry to counter your point but what they advertise is Mb (megabits)
  |and what you are likely talking about is MB (megabytes) which is
  |eight times the size of a megabit. It is annoying though when they
  |say that.


  |u/Archon-Toten - 2 hours
  |
  |Add to that advertising in megabits requiring people to divide by 8
  |for a real world maximum.


  |u/Your-cousin-It - 2 hours
  |
  |Recently, American companies were forced to up their speeds a bit
  |because of EU standards. I got an email from Comcast saying they want
  |to make their customers happy, in stead of, you know, having to.
  |The EU is also the reason Apple is finally being forced to
  |standardize their charging port. Thank goodness for international
  |standards 👏


|u/freshly-stabbed - 9 hours
|
|Subscription software.   I don’t mind subscriptions for things like
|streaming services or gyms or even Audible. But paying a monthly fee to
|use a software program is insane.


  |u/Little_Newt1023 - 2 hours
  |
  |I found the opposite to be true. I don’t like paying for
  |media/content streaming, because I think it should be a one off
  |purchase and that I should own it like in the old days. As for apps,
  |I don’t mind paying for a subscription if it genuinely gives more
  |value to my life. Developers need to make money somehow to keep
  |improving the apps. I wish more of them considered selling yearly
  |licenses though, instead of monthly sub (so that I can keep getting
  |updates for a year, but have to extend my license OPTIONALLY if I
  |want to get more updates).


|u/AncientSumerianGod - 10 hours
|
|Prosperity ministries


  |u/kswildcatmom - 5 hours
  |
  |Name it and claim it! Can I get an amen?! 💵💵


|u/dwsinpdx - 9 hours
|
|Scientology


  |u/ColoradoWeasel - 7 hours
  |
  |Argh. Just lost $10. I had the bet with two friends on what would be
  |higher as I scrolled down. I had the Tyson / Paul fight. One had
  |Mormonism. Winner had Scientology.


    |u/shelbytwest - 6 hours
    |
    |Best thing about that whole event was the women boxers. That was a
    |gnarly fight.


|u/snowy_oncilla - 10 hours
|
|The biggest scam is the promise of easy money. Whether it's get-rich-
|quick schemes, pyramid schemes, or crypto scams, they all prey on
|people's desire for a quick buck.


  |u/Level_Bridge7683 - 8 hours
  |
  |let me tell you all my secrets to success!! sign up for my online
  |course that i could easily give away through youtube videos if i was
  |being genuine about helping people.


|u/EducationalBread5323 - 9 hours
|
|Non-refundable application fees for rental applications


  |u/nymphetamine-x-girl - 2 hours
  |
  |My favorite is when you see a good deal of a house that someone
  |ripped from redfinned that isn't for rent but they listed it on
  |Zillow below market price and they already have 800 applications
  |over...  6 months.   THAT RENTAL DOESN'T EXIST. THEY JUST MADE 4K OFF
  |OF THIS SCAM.


|u/frankylovee - 7 hours
|
|Diamonds


|u/Mitka69 - 10 hours
|
|Auto and Health insurance in the USA


  |u/gigashadowwolf - 10 hours
  |
  |Auto insurance is about the only insurance I think that isn't a scam,
  |home insurance is a TOTAL scam.


    |u/That_Line_1968 - 9 hours
    |
    |Without my homeowners insurance, I would have been responsible for
    |just shy of $60k of damage my home suffered due to a tornado this
    |summer.


      |u/bryands89 - 7 hours
      |
      |Doesn't the premium go up for using them?


    |u/pudding7 - 8 hours
    |
    |I had massive water damage in my house.  State Farm paid for every
    |penny of repairs.


    |u/Original-P - 9 hours
    |
    |Auto insurers are literally able to engage in age and gender
    |discrimination, penalizing responsible drivers for accidents they
    |weren’t even involved in.  Also, we’re required by state law to
    |purchase insurance from FOR-PROFIT companies. This means that we’re
    |always going to pay more in premiums than we can expect to receive
    |in claims over our lifetime. Paying money for something you aren’t
    |going to receive is what I’d call a scam.  With that said, I’d
    |still have to keep my car insurance even if it wasn’t mandatory.
    |Can’t afford to pay liability out of pocket 😬.


      |u/mr_positron - 8 hours
      |
      |One man’s “discrimination” is another man’s “noticing the huge
      |difference in accident rates for different populations”


        |u/rickfish99999 - 7 hours
        |
        |Yeah. I'm like: "dude, you know it's not as simple as that."


      |u/Ok_Information427 - 7 hours
      |
      |It’s not age discrimination lol. Insurance companies use
      |actuarial data to understand which populations and areas are more
      |likely to be of a certain risk.   For example, if I’m in Detroit
      |vs some rural town in MI, my comp premiums are going to skyrocket
      |due to the frequency of property crimes in the area, increasing
      |the likelihood of a claim.   You should be glad it’s a state law
      |to carry coverage. Can you imagine how screwed you would be if
      |you yourself weren’t covered and some asshole tboned you (without
      |coverage themselves) and you land in the hospital with a wrecked
      |vehicle? Those damages all become out of pocket costs to you.
      |To be frank, the general population is too stupid to not be
      |required by law to purchase insurance.


      |u/Pattastic - 7 hours
      |
      |This is probably the most dunning kruger comment I've read in a
      |long time. Every aspect of this is almost wrong to the point of
      |it being the opposite and you say it with so much confidence.
      |It's literally so painful to read.


      |u/Segull - 8 hours
      |
      |I mean… they should be able to…   Insurance works by grouping a
      |segment of people and analyzing the risk of ‘whatever is being
      |insured’. If they are not allowed to exclude certain groups from
      |this, the premiums they need to charge to cover the costs go up.
      |Government regulations on health age discrimination are
      |essentially a tax on the young pushed through insurance. This is
      |not the case for car insurance because it would show the
      |opposite. Younger people are more expensive to insure vs the
      |older/boomer crowd (to a certain extent).


        |u/Original-P - 8 hours
        |
        |This makes sense to me overall. I understand that companies are
        |making their decisions based on financial motives rather than
        |illogical bigotry. Where is the “line” though?   (Disclaimer… I
        |say this as an actual black man lol) If GEICO discovered that
        |their black customers were a greater risk to ensure, is there
        |any reason why the same logic shouldn’t apply?


    |u/buttplugpeddler - 9 hours
    |
    |Come to Wisconsin my dude. I’ll teach you how to shovel. It’s no
    |big deal, really.


      |u/SpritzLike - 8 hours
      |
      |Wisconsin here. Not being shitty, but I’m not sure what you are
      |referring to? I thought home insurance was for fires and or
      |plumbing issues?  Edit to add I try to keep the driveway and
      |walkway cleared but I’m certainly not staying up all night to
      |shovel every hour during a storm.


  |u/DeeJudanne - 10 hours
  |
  |how much is auto insurance in the US? here in sweden I pay roughly
  |converted to USD 13 bucks monthly


    |u/Mitka69 - 10 hours
    |
    |Depends on the area. I pay about $600 / year - minimum liability.
    |For higher coverage it goes up from that.


      |u/SpritzLike - 8 hours
      |
      |It also depends on your driving record.


    |u/alwaysmyfault - 10 hours
    |
    |Jeez, that's insane.  There's a lot of factors that go into it,
    |like where you live, the kind of car you have, your driving record.
    |But it's relatively common for people to pay anywhere from 500-2500
    |USD a year for insurance.    I have 2 vehicles, one a really nice
    |car, and one a beater daily driver, and I pay about 1600/year.


      |u/DeeJudanne - 10 hours
      |
      |That sounds absurd to be completely honest with you


        |u/SpritzLike - 8 hours
        |
        | Check dudes driving/accident record. After I had a DUI (very
        |ashamed) my insurance shot up 3x.


    |u/beastpilot - 8 hours
    |
    |How does that even work?  $150 a year for car insurance? When a
    |simple car accident can cost $10K to repair? That means the average
    |person in Sweden gets into an accident every 70+ years, or every
    |700,000 miles. No group of drivers is that good.  This must be
    |massively subsidized by the government. Why is the government
    |subsidizing individuals owning cars?


    |u/No_Angle875 - 10 hours
    |
    |Paying $3600 a year for 2 cars, but have 2 claims waiting to fall
    |off next payment time


    |u/Mogwai_Farmer - 9 hours
    |
    |> ow much is auto insurance in the US  3 drivers & 2 vehicles costs
    |me $422/month.


|u/pinkxsorbet - 9 hours
|
|Funerals, weddings, and pretty much every other thing we blindly accept
|have to be insanely expensive without even thinking about it.


  |u/coffeecupcakes - 7 hours
  |
  |My one hard rule for when I die is that I want whatever the cheapest
  |legal option is. If they try to upsale or add anything my answer from
  |beyond the grave is. “No.” So probably donating to science.


    |u/1980kw - 6 hours
    |
    |Our local funeral home is really good. I know the owner personally
    |and he goes out of his way to make it as cheap as possible. Even
    |when the family has lots of money he doesn’t try to screw them.
    |He’s also very charitable when people can’t pay. Some times I
    |wonder how he stays in business.


|u/texasfan512 - 10 hours
|
|Credit ratings


  |u/Zigxy - 7 hours
  |
  |What would you change? They seem fine?


    |u/UWMN - 6 hours
    |
    |Pay something and close it, credit score goes down.   Go above what
    |they say should be your credit utilization, score goes down.
    |Someone looks into your credit for a home, auto loan, etc, credit
    |goes down.   Make a late payment, credit goes down.   Make any
    |mistake or have a life event where you can’t pay your bills and you
    |will live with ruined credit for years. It’s easy to ruin and
    |extremely difficult to fix. It’s a scam.


    |u/ThatGirlSince83 - 5 hours
    |
    |Credit ratings are bullshit. Every other country seems to operate
    |just fine (some even better) without them.


|u/Zip_Zoopity_Bop - 8 hours
|
|Rent payments not helping your credit score.


  |u/RandyRhoadsLives - 5 hours
  |
  |I would argue that the real scam is the “credit score”.


  |u/Embarrassed-Skin2770 - 5 hours
  |
  |Especially since many places want you to have a good credit score to
  |rent with them. Though nowadays more options are becoming available
  |for rent payments to improve your credit score. Like paying rent via
  |credit card and then paying it off that way.   I wonder if the reason
  |is what goes up must come down; if rent can help your credit score,
  |but you fall into hard times and have to work something out with your
  |landlord that can then hurt your credit score. It might not be
  |considered legally fair to penalize people having difficulty keeping
  |a roof over their head, which is fair. Honestly the whole
  |rent/housing system has plenty of room for improvement, at least in
  |the USA.


|u/FletchWazzle - 10 hours
|
|Tipping and tip workers tip shame tip expectations


  |u/The_Dork_Knight7 - 8 hours
  |
  |[Mr. Pink was
  |right!](https://youtu.be/M4sTSIYzDIk?si=fsw4YcoAAV42cmgO)


  |u/whysojealousjaun - 9 hours
  |
  |ill agree., I enjoy tipping but sometimes the tip is not worth the
  |service and fuck Starbucks tipping


  |u/b0w_monster - 6 hours
  |
  |I saw a 30% tip suggestion today. Jfc


  |u/ChosenBunny - 4 hours
  |
  |This is why I stopped tipping completely. For the first time last
  |night i didn't tip at a Michelin star restaurant and walked out nice
  |and proud. Start the no tipping movement so people start to expect no
  |tip


|u/PaleRussh - 1 hour
|
|totally feel you on the health insurance scam. It's insane paying so
|much and still having crazy deductibles. A friend of mine constantly
|battles with finding in-network doctors and it's just such a headache.
|It's like paying for a service that barely works when you need it most.


|u/Petey_Blue - 9 hours
|
|Influencers


  |u/redRum705 - 8 hours
  |
  |“Influencers”


|u/mooseforce1 - 9 hours
|
|Tyson vs Paul fight


  |u/VerifiedMother - 3 hours
  |
  |People actually watched that?


|u/screwedupinaz - 10 hours
|
|The "healthcare" system in the USA!!


|u/petalsoftxo - 8 hours
|
|Cable TV/Internet monopolies.


  |u/Vic-Trola - 8 hours
  |
  |Like they don’t get enough revenue from the commercials.


|u/NovaFabli - 1 hour
|
|totally feel you on the printer ink thing. It's like they make printers
|cheap just to get us with the ink prices later. My friend switched to a
|laser printer, and it's been way more cost-effective for her in the
|long run. Something worth considering!


|u/Et2097 - 9 hours
|
|Health insurance. I pay a lot of money every month to have the
|privilege to pay a lot of money if I ever need to use it.


|u/Initial-Damage1605 - 9 hours
|
|American healthcare.


|u/DeeJudanne - 10 hours
|
|printer ink


  |u/TheGreatGamer1389 - 7 hours
  |
  |Just don't go for the cheap printers.  That's how they get you.
  |Spend a good premium on a printer.  Few hundred.  And ink becomes
  |much cheaper.


|u/EroticTragedy - 9 hours
|
|Credit scores.   I could understand verifying a credit card for credit
|oriented inquiries, loans and such, but the amount of things nowadays
|that hard or soft pull your credit makes it almost impossible to build
|when you're actively looking for a job or a new rental unit or
|whatever.    The other thing is how much the older generation views
|carrying debt as a bad thing where the younger generations accept it as
|a fact of life.   The earlier you take on debt to build your credit,
|the more likely you are to screw up or make bad financial decisions.
|Your credit score is good for a while, but you get behind on a car
|payment or miss a credit card payment. It takes months for the on time
|payments to reflect and accumulate, months to dispute with reaction,
|months to gain 20 points that can quickly be lost applying for 3 or 4
|different loans.     You display this number but the fact is your
|credit history isn't long enough. Now you've got history, but you also
|have debts, collections, your score isn't good enough anymore. On time
|payments and history now no longer matter.    There must be a reason
|there are so many websites to manage and raise your credit score,
|credit building services for $5 a month here and there for Bs loans for
|the reporting, when your parents are telling you that even looking at
|it is bad.   How does this even work now?


  |u/SayNoToStim - 8 hours
  |
  |Credit scores would be fine if the formula wasn't cryptic garbage.
  |Payment history and debt/income ratio should be 90% of the score.


    |u/EroticTragedy - 7 hours
    |
    |My problem is there is no clear cut criteria anymore and anything
    |that determines very big life decisions shouldn't be based on bleep
    |bloop numbers decided by some organization.   The rating of credit
    |scores is inconsistent as to what is good, fair, bad, awful,
    |excellent etc. if it could be calculated using an algorithm or
    |actual math like any other score or grade, it would be fine.    But
    |it's inconsistent across the board and so many major life things
    |are decided based on it now when there are much better ways of
    |determining someone's 'credit worthiness' (or just worthiness)
    |using tools we already have that can show income, payments, and
    |consistency.    Besides, the credit building companies have to make
    |money somehow


    |u/unlikelypisces - 6 hours
    |
    |I don't think credit scores factor in debt to income ratio at all.
    |Sure. When you apply for credit, they factor it in your credit
    |score and your income and your debts, but that's done separately,
    |it's not part of the score.


|u/pokeysyd - 7 hours
|
|I just experienced this the other day - check engine light. How is it
|that with the electronics in today’s cars, that the car cannot just
|tell me what the code is and what it needs?  And dealers charging $100+
|to plug in a reader to get the code?  That task takes 5 minutes or
|less. It should be mandated that anytime a CEL light comes on, the
|infotainment system tells you exactly what the problem is. Turns out on
|my car, the problem was the radiator flaps were not opening and closing
|properly. Luckily it was still under warranty.


  |u/AllSugaredUp - 5 hours
  |
  |They'll check the code for free at auto zone, fyi. But yeah agreed
  |it's dumb that the car doesn't just tell you.


|u/iwontcommenthere - 9 hours
|
|Service fees for concert tickets 😩 Like, just tell me the price upfront
|without the sneaky extras!


|u/Bease344512 - 9 hours
|
|Timeshares


|u/twilightxbelle - 9 hours
|
|I think Student Loan servicers. For example, Navient manages Federally
|guaranteed debt for the US Gov in Student loans, has the IRS as their
|personal collection agency. They constantly, I mean CONSTANTLY fuck up
|to the extent they get dragged in front of Congressional Hearings, and
|their CEO is paid $7.7M annually.


|u/OnlyTheBLars89 - 6 hours
|
|Giving a billionare your money for pay for his legal bills for being a
|fraud.


|u/Meta-Fox - 8 hours
|
|Life.  We pay for the privilege to live. Those too poor to pay for it
|don't live at all, they simply exist. That's not life.


  |u/phoenixofsun - 6 hours
  |
  |How is life the scam though?


|u/usermayar - 10 hours
|
|How expensive is laser hair removal in the western countries, literally
|scamming you all.


  |u/Kacey-R - 8 hours
  |
  |How inexpensive is it elsewhere?


|u/hillbillytech - 7 hours
|
|Health insurance.


|u/PerfectBunny00 - 10 hours
|
|Insurance deductibles. Like, I'm paying you monthly just so I can pay
|even more money when I actually need to use the insurance?


  |u/colonelsmoothie - 9 hours
  |
  |In theory you could get insurance with no deductible, it would just
  |be absurdly expensive because small claims cost more to administer
  |than the actual amount of damages. When you have a claim, it costs
  |money to get the adjuster to administer your claim so if a claim is
  |small, more of the premium has to go towards just paying the adjuster
  |to do their job. Deductibles help to lower the premium and
  |incentivize the insureds to take basic risk control measures (like
  |regular car maintenance). The higher the deductible, the lower your
  |premium.


|u/ttaylo28 - 8 hours
|
|People in the bottom 99% voting for trickle down 'economics'.


  |u/iamnotdownwithopp - 7 hours
  |
  |The information a person needs in order to be informed before making
  |a decision can be challenging to find, hard to understand, and
  |opposite of that person's bias. Political media has gotten quite
  |adept at making people feel like they are informed while
  |simultaneously mis- or dis- informing them. Personally, I think it's
  |happening in both liberal and conservative spheres but one is better
  |than the other at motivating action.


|u/elpezpr - 9 hours
|
|Paying for parking! 99% of the time you are there to buy something
|anyways. It's just a way to milk you more money. Specially considering
|most have a "we are not responsable for anything" notices. Pure scam!!!


  |u/redRum705 - 8 hours
  |
  |ie paying to park at a hotel!!!!


    |u/sirhappynuggets - 8 hours
    |
    |Literally my biggest pet peeve. We stayed in Sarasota and the hotel
    |had a 40 dollar parking fee. I parked like 8 blocks away and I
    |still had to pay 20 bucks


    |u/Substantial-Strain-6 - 8 hours
    |
    |I always try to find pay parking at a local garage. Its usually a
    |third of the price and the chargers actually work.


|u/LMP0623 - 8 hours
|
|Health Insurance


|u/vTorii_ - 7 hours
|
|Greeting cards. You’re telling me I have to spend like $5 just so
|someone can throw this thing away?


|u/Sci-fra - 1 hour
|
|RELIGION by far is the biggest scam.   Religion has actually convinced
|people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches
|everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has
|a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do
|any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke
|and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and
|suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the
|end of time!  But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He
|always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and
|all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!  George Carlin


|u/Ofugeranca - 11 hours
|
|The five day work week


  |u/catonsteroids - 7 hours
  |
  |Especially since very few employees are THAT productive that they’re
  |actively working all 8 hours a day, 40 hours a week. Some of those
  |are wasted because we’re not robots.


|u/Jumpy_Cobbler7783 - 10 hours
|
|The Mormon "Church" - check out the r/exmormon subreddit for more
|details.


  |u/pereuse - 9 hours
  |
  |Same with scientology


    |u/b0w_monster - 6 hours
    |
    |All religions. Obedience in exchange for eternal life.


  |u/Square_Ad8710 - 8 hours
  |
  |Check out all the videos on YouTube exposing the shit with the
  |Jehovah's Witnesses.  They make the Mormons look sane.


  |u/Shoddy-Computer2377 - 8 hours
  |
  |There have been Mormons roaming my town in the UK of late.  American
  |mormons.  In a total dump of a town.


  |u/ce_666 - 9 hours
  |
  |Religion, FTFY


  |u/scarves_and_miracles - 10 hours
  |
  |Hate to break it to you, but the other religions aren’t a whole lot
  |less silly. They’re just older and you’re more used to them.


    |u/eljo555 - 8 hours
    |
    |The difference is "high demand" religion or not. It seems like
    |newer is more demanding.


    |u/Jumpy_Cobbler7783 - 9 hours
    |
    |I was a member from the time I was 8 in 1965 until a year ago when
    |I got an attorney and resigned from that dangerous cult.  The
    |reasons I left were that the top leadership committed criminal
    |violations of the Securities Act of 1934 for two decades
    |intentionally lying to the membership and SEC by hiding a quarter
    |billion dollars in assets in 13 shell companies and turning in
    |fraudulent tax returns.  Basically it is a real estate and
    |securities hedge fund masquerading as a church.  The second big
    |reason is that child sexual abuse is rampant within the church and
    |their legal team at Kirton McConkie tells local leaders not to
    |report it to the police even though they are mandatory reporters.
    |The last reference I listed was an example of a very sickening
    |egregious way that the church prevented justice for two girls for
    |years and how the church was PLEASED in winning an appeals court
    |ruling absolving them from liability   The doctrines and history
    |behind made up are just icing on the cake.
    |https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/press-
    |releases/2023-35?origin=serp_auto  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/
    |List_of_wealthiest_religious_organizations
    |https://thewidowsmite.org/ep2024q1/
    |https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/11/08/court-cites-clergy-
    |penitent/?origin=serp_auto


|u/No_Individual_672 - 9 hours
|
|Health insurance US


|u/flowerodell - 9 hours
|
|Municipal vehicle stickers


|u/AdPsychological990 - 7 hours
|
|USA healthcare


|u/Stunning-Queenx - 10 hours
|
|Those 'detox' teas that influencers push on Instagram. Spent $60 on
|that garbage and all it did was give me terrible stomach cramps and
|destroy my bathroom.


  |u/FromundaCheeseLigma - 10 hours
  |
  |You know regular pissing and shitting is your body detoxing on its
  |own right? Your liver and kidneys are powerful organs


  |u/catonsteroids - 7 hours
  |
  |I’ve always rolled my eyes at detox cleanses or juices or whatever.
  |If you have a healthy and functioning liver and kidneys then they’re
  |a total waste of money and effort. Even if you don’t, those things
  |aren’t gonna help you and you need dialysis and medications, not
  |these scammy detox products.


|u/Ok_Film233 - 11 hours
|
|School loans.


|u/sleepparalysisdemang - 9 hours
|
|Whole foods. You get the same shit at a normal grocery store for much
|less. I just filled a cart at whole foods and it was $448...


|u/Bednars_lovechild69 - 8 hours
|
|Religion. They collect billions every year. Pay no taxes. And never
|deliver any goods to people with the exception that paying the church
|makes them feel better🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️


|u/Athena123YT - 8 hours
|
|Paying a monthly subscription fee to digital newspapers and still
|getting the page filled with ads


|u/ohtheresbecky - 8 hours
|
|Politics in a democracy 😢


|u/Constant_Device_4414 - 7 hours
|
|I mean most ‘wellness’ products - it’s insane that almost everyone you
|know uses some sort of pseudo remedy that does absolutely nothing
|whether that’s essential oils, multi vitamins, celery juice, gua sha or
|‘natural’ skincare, everyone falls for it to some extent.


|u/ExcitingSpray- - 11 hours
|
|Subscription services that make it hard to cancel—it's like they’re
|betting on your laziness.


|u/Affectionate-Elk8098 - 11 hours
|
|When the iPad comes after ordering a coffee and bagel at the counter
|you know your going to tip hard ffs scammy asf


  |u/NateLPonYT - 8 hours
  |
  |My general rule of thumb is if I’m standing I don’t tip


    |u/Danoga_Poe - 7 hours
    |
    |Yea, agree.  Food delivered, or sit down restaurants only time I
    |tip


|u/AngelGirlBella7 - 11 hours
|
|Buying new iPhones. They’re extremely overpriced.


  |u/Proof_Potential3734 - 9 hours
  |
  |Apple specifically has a 50% profit policy, so they charge twice what
  |anything they sell costs.


    |u/lbjazz - 8 hours
    |
    |That might be gross margin, but Apple’s net margin looks to be
    |around 26% overall. Those are, simply put, healthy and appropriate
    |margins, especially for the level of service Apple provides
    |compared to most competitors. When I’ve worked for companies with
    |less than a 50% gross margin, we’ve struggled with product and
    |support quality and been under constant pressure to find cuts
    |because the bottom line was negative. I’ve worked for a company
    |with over 70% gross margin, and everybody was happy. The owner made
    |money, we hit our bonuses, the channel made enough money to care in
    |the first place and support the installations well, and the end
    |users felt well-served. On the opposite extreme, I recently left a
    |company with 20-30% gross margins. I left because they basically
    |collapsed under the consequences of corner-cutting, under qualified
    |staffing, poor product quality, and crushing customer support load.
    |You want companies to have healthy margins—there’s at least then
    |the possibility of good outcomes long-term.


  |u/UnremarkabklyUseless - 7 hours
  |
  |>They’re extremely overpriced.  Don't most flagship phones from other
  |manufacturers more or less cost the same these days?


|u/Visual-Squirrel3629 - 9 hours
|
|Property taxes. Paying for what you already own? Total scam.


|u/LzrdKing70 - 11 hours
|
|Extended warranties


|u/Bubudel - 10 hours
|
|Not the biggest, but two of the most irritating: chiropractic and
|osteopathy, especially when they call themselves "doctors".


  |u/heylookitsdanica - 7 hours
  |
  |Ok - doctors of osteopathic medicine DO go to medical school and ARE
  |medical doctors.


    |u/TicTacKnickKnack - 4 hours
    |
    |Only in the US. Overseas they're equally as quacky as chiropractors


  |u/villettegirl - 7 hours
  |
  |I’ve given up on arguing with my friends who like chiropractors. It’s
  |like a cult.


    |u/IndyRoadie - 5 hours
    |
    |My friend's dad was a well known Neuro Surgeon. When people asked
    |him what he thought of chiropractors, he said : "I love them.
    |Fixing their screw ups put my kids through college"


  |u/Impressive_Tap7635 - 8 hours
  |
  |I saw a reel where a "medical doctor" was telling ppl that eating
  |seed oils cuts ur life expectancy in half and when I checked the acc
  |he's a ducking chiropractor


    |u/Bubudel - 8 hours
    |
    |That's exactly what I mean. Their behavior borders on fraud.


      |u/Significant-Hyena634 - 5 hours
      |
      |Only in the sense that Ontario borders on Canada.


|u/Alma-Rose - 8 hours
|
|Trump Bible.


|u/MagicManicPanic - 9 hours
|
|Health insurance.  I pay almost $200/month in premiums. I need a
|procedure done but it will cost $15,000. Insurance will cover a large
|portion, but I still need to give the hospital $2,000, up front, to
|have the procedure done.   I’ve still not had the procedure done and
|probably never will.


|u/Azby504 - 7 hours
|
|Timeshare vacation purchases


|u/catonsteroids - 7 hours
|
|Televangelism. Prosperity gospel.


|u/More_Secretary_1819 - 7 hours
|
|the price of an college education


|u/RonniePickles - 6 hours
|
|Working 5 days a week. We used to work 14 hours a day, 6 days a week.
|When many countries went to a 40 hour week, the world didn't collapse.
|A lot of countries now have a 35 hour week and they tick along nicely.
|I'm sure if we cut back to a 20 hour week across the board most
|economies would manage.  I wonder how we all got scammed into running
|inside  this "hamster wheel" in the first place.


|u/gumbii_bg - 6 hours
|
|Funerals... Just bury my ashes in the raised bed...


|u/kc43thesequel - 4 hours
|
|Fluctuating rental prices


|u/iMagZz - 4 hours
|
|The price of printer ink.


|u/Yammer1 - 8 hours
|
|Getting people to vote against their own best interests by spreading
|misinformation


|u/Playfulfaz - 10 hours
|
|I'd have to say the biggest scam is probably the **student loan debt
|crisis**. I mean, we're expected to take on tens of thousands of
|dollars in debt for a piece of paper that doesn't always guarantee a
|decent job. It's like a legalized form of indentured servitude. And
|don't even get me started on the interest rates! It's a total rip-off.


|u/Ancient-Ad-2474 - 7 hours
|
|Religion


|u/grogudalorian - 8 hours
|
|Dental insurance.  It barely covers anything.


|u/NordicGypsy1 - 11 hours
|
|DJT


  |u/kamratjoel - 8 hours
  |
  |Honestly just the GOP itself, and the American Dream.  I don’t know
  |how these guys have managed to brainwash so many working class
  |Americans to vote for shit that will only make their lives worse,
  |while making the rich even richer.


  |u/notmyfirst_throwawa - 9 hours
  |
  |Idk I think darjeeling tea is usually worth it


|u/amateursmartass - 10 hours
|
|I get taxed on money when I make it, then get taxed when I spend it,
|then when I die my family will get taxed again for inheriting it.


  |u/bonos_bovine_muse - 7 hours
  |
  |Not so much (under 20% unless you’re making bank), very little (under
  |10% just about everywhere), and not at all (unless you’re worth at
  |least several million when you croak).  But I see how you’re falling
  |for my scam about voting in the interests of the billionaires.


  |u/iamnotdownwithopp - 7 hours
  |
  |Are you in the US? There's no federal inheritance tax and as of 2025,
  |only 5 states impose one. Each state has different limits before an
  |inheritance tax kicks in, but fewer than 2% of people meet them.  As
  |for income and sales tax, yes, those are awful, skewed in a way that
  |hurts the working class more than the wealthy, and should be revised.
  |I know governments need money to operate, but the system as it is
  |doesn't work.


  |u/Butterdish4 - 7 hours
  |
  |OK, but you have to have some tax otherwise you wouldn’t have a way
  |to get to work


|u/enriquedelcastillo - 10 hours
|
|Ok I’m gonna add the ticket buying racket


|u/Flutterflut - 9 hours
|
|The price of advanced education


|u/baked_beansntaters - 9 hours
|
|The food pyramid


  |u/thehoagieboy - 5 hours
  |
  |The food pyramid has been dead for a while


|u/p0lar_chronic - 7 hours
|
|Religion.


|u/sigaven - 7 hours
|
|Religion


|u/romuloskagen - 7 hours
|
|Religion.


|u/Not-2Day - 7 hours
|
|Christianity


|u/anthro4ME - 7 hours
|
|religion


|u/woodbutcher6000 - 7 hours
|
|Religion


|u/Jutch_Cassidy - 7 hours
|
|Church


|u/thePhilosopher_Pepe - 7 hours
|
|Religion


|u/filiusjm - 7 hours
|
|Trump....


|u/Dervrak - 6 hours
|
|Probably those $10 "extended warranties" retail stores like Wal-Mart
|sell on small ticket items like toasters and headphones. The statistics
|show that over 95% of them are never used because people either forget
|they purchased them, lost the receipt, or the item was so cheap they
|don't even bother fooling with it. It's basically pure profit for the
|stores.


|u/juliavalentine - 5 hours
|
|Honestly, college if you don’t have a stem degree or a niche field.  A
|lot of my friends that spent thousands of dollars on degrees now have
|jobs that pay slightly more than minimum wage and do not use any of the
|skills they learned. It would have been better financially for them to
|work those 4 years instead.


|u/NickDanger3di - 11 hours
|
|Our government system in the US.


|u/Feisty-Fish1909 - 9 hours
|
|Biggest scam ? Most of the elements of life in western “civilized
|society “ , going to a job you don’t like, to buy things you don’t need
|, to impress people you don’t even like. Insurance , most jobs , taxes,
|commercials , corrupt financial system , religion etc. pretty much
|everything our entire existence is founded upon or defined by . Most
|things are a scam and there’s not much we can do about it without being
|killed or imprisoned.


  |u/Significant-Hyena634 - 7 hours
  |
  |I work so I can buy things I don’t ‘need’, but instead want.  Good
  |wine, restaurant meals, classic albums on vinyl, overseas holidays,
  |boardgames.  Life would be crap if we could only get what we needed,
  |and not what we wanted.


|u/HydeParkSwag - 7 hours
|
|The American insurance industry


|u/flaming0-1 - 7 hours
|
|Borders. We all just assume they need to be there… I watched a recent
|Johnny Harris video on the fallacy of the need for borders, changed my
|life.


|u/ScooterFun - 10 hours
|
|Insurance Companies without a doubt, they generally run over 300%
|profit margins, and policies are often required by law. But no price
|oversight,


|u/butrumM - 8 hours
|
|The Catholic Church as an organization.


|u/Timmy24000 - 8 hours
|
|Trump.


|u/ratmoon25 - 10 hours
|
|Working my whole life and not having enough.


|u/OldManBossett - 8 hours
|
|Private equity, venture capital, and corporate welfare - excuse me I
|mean corporate tax breaks.


|u/lol022 - 9 hours
|
|banks. They borrow everyone’s money, lend it out with high interest
|rates, but they only give you like .01% for having it there.


|u/Celloschmello - 9 hours
|
|paying for laundry in an apartment complex. i pay 1400 in rent, and the
|electric, gas, and water bills why should i have to scrounge for
|quarters to wash my clothes. just give me an in-unit washer/dryer!


|u/Sumocolt768 - 8 hours
|
|Credit scores. I got a loan for ~$10k from the bank to buy a car. Paid
|it off after 13 months. Didn’t get any credit for it because the bank
|didn’t make the money they wanted.


|u/corncaked - 8 hours
|
|Bottled water. I live in one of the top 3 US cities with the worst
|water quality but we have a large 5 gallon jug to refill at the local
|grocery store. Unless it’s an absurd drive/you don’t have a car, I
|truly think you’re wasting your money paying for huge packs of bottled
|water. Way more expensive ounce by ounce and you’re casually killing
|the planet too.  Oh and as a dentist, dental or health insurance.
|Actuaries who have never seen a day of dentistry or medicine in their
|lives get to decide whether you get a critical procedure done or not.
|An old dentist buddy of mine used to say just have a savings account
|and put some money in there per month and when you need dental work
|just access that.


|u/KoLobotomy - 8 hours
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|Mormonism


|u/LeagueAggravating595 - 7 hours
|
|Anyone calling you with an Indian accent claiming to be from Microsoft
|or the IRS.


|u/Cherrylime164 - 7 hours
|
|vitamin and mineral supplements/gummies etc (majority of it is all a
|market scheme). It is a billon dollar industry and markets well to
|people who have a desire for good health…but a lot of false product
|claims. I also think it is poorly regulated and lack of awareness on
|vitamins in society. Needs more scientific proven evidence and
|research. A lot of multivitamins have very low dosages and are
|ineffective. Save your money and try to get your vitamin from organic
|sources


|u/Life_End_97 - 7 hours
|
|#Toll roads  You paid for the roads with your taxes, yet you still have
|to pay for tolls. On top of that, you pay for the police who issue
|tickets on these toll roads—all at your expense.


|u/Outrageous-Policy510 - 7 hours
|
|Insurance, of any kind.


|u/dfaidley - 6 hours
|
|Multi level marketing


|u/Feisty_Lack_5630 - 6 hours
|
|Life is the biggest scam.


|u/billiarddaddy - 6 hours
|
|Gerrymandering


|u/SnoopyisCute - 6 hours
|
|marriage


|u/BlueBlooper - 4 hours
|
|payday loans


|u/eyeballburger - 4 hours
|
|Rent


|u/Midnight5un - 4 hours
|
|Health insurance is one of the biggest reasons healthcare costs are so
|high. They have you over a barrel though bc w out it you’re fucked.


|u/KonaKumo - 4 hours
|
|Bottled Water -> Most is just your city tap water that has been bottled
|and sold to you at a significant upcharge.  Most/if not all - Low
|fat/diet items - Fat is replaced by sugars or other replacements that
|are worse for you than the fat would have been. OR they trigger your
|body to not be satiated...so you end up snacking and consuming more
|than you would have.  Organic - more reputable now but still a scam
|when evaluating the claims made by the proponents/producers/advertising
|firms.


|u/Front-Hovercraft-721 - 4 hours
|
|When your country’s massive natural resources don’t ever benefit the
|citizens and taxpayers because your government sells out to
|corporations.


|u/ScrewReddit123456789 - 4 hours
|
|Insurance of any kind—Life, Health, Auto-Total scam.


|u/Fickle_Wrongdoer_753 - 3 hours
|
|Most forms of insurance


|u/shong109 - 3 hours
|
|Insurance………till you need it 😅


|u/NaiveOpening7376 - 2 hours
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|Religion


|u/Tasty_Pepper5867 - 2 hours
|
|Insurance companies. They keep raising rates but when you want to file
|a claim, somehow that one thing isn’t covered.


|u/WinSomeLoseSomeWin - 2 hours
|
|Religion non-profit tax status.


|u/Mrhotel-ca2654 - 2 hours
|
|Trump getting elected!


|u/uofajoe99 - 2 hours
|
|Religion


|u/Freestila - 1 hour
|
|Churches. First because the underlying premise of an all powerful all
|knowing entity is laughable.  Second because most of that what people
|believe in can be proven to be wrong, and for the other stuff there is
|no evidence to prove it true. Third because under the name of religion
|Soo many bad stuff is done. Racist stuff, hate crime, pedophile stuff,
|killing and masses of violence. And lastly, there are some special
|rules for Christian churches in my country. They get their fee / church
|money from a church tax that every to that religion registered person
|has to pay in relation to their income. Meaning after you baptism as a
|kid you have to pay, automatically and without exceptions. Moving or so
|does not change anything. You want to leave church to not pay - you
|need to go to your municipal office and pay money.. Then they have
|themselves a tax exception, are excepted from certain laws like for
|example work laws and equality laws. They get a big sum every year from
|the country, they operate kindergarten and other stuff under their
|rules but paid mostly from the state. Yeah no big fan of religion...


|u/redsteve72 - 1 hour
|
|Working until I have probably less than a quarter of my life left and
|then retiring, it’s not a good system for a long happy life and the
|fact that a bunch of politicians who retire younger and richer than I
|do keep extending when I can retire is crap!


|u/greenwood90 - 1 hour
|
|Working a 40-hour week for 40 years, only to retire on 40% of a salary
|that wasn't enough to live on in the first place.


|u/Eight216 - 1 hour
|
|Money, as a concept.   We have the technology, right now. We could pool
|resources and get robots to start doing shit and start worrying about
|getting our entire population food, healthcare, and shelter. We could
|100% function on a trade based economy once everybodies basic needs are
|attended to because if we're honest, who you know is already more
|valuable than how much money you have. We can also find ways to
|compensate people who really just want to BE the means of production,
|there will always be a niche market for human labor and any given
|person can bargain for privileges and/or access to technology that's
|less easily mass produced.


|u/Jlbennett2001 - 1 hour
|
|Most Insurance. It just seems crazy to me that you can give 1000s to a
|company that can decide to give you nothing back. I got in a motorcycle
|accident back in 2019, and it would have been more expensive for me to
|have full coverage than to pay out of pocket.


|u/housebun - 1 hour
|
|American healthcare


|u/BeyondReflexes - 1 hour
|
|College application fees on schools that brag about their low
|acceptance rates. I remember I worked the numbers for all the schools I
|had to pay a fee to when my daughter went off to college. Just free
|money in their pocket.  Examples: from 2023 (aka class of 2027)
|Harvard Application Fee Cost $85 Fee.   56,937 applicants with 1,937
|admitted.    New York University $85 Fee.   120,000 applicants. 9,600
|accepted.    University of Southern California $85 Fee.   80,790
|applicants. 9,277 accepted.  Columbia University $85 Fee.   57,129
|applicants. 2,246 admitted.    Brown University $75 Fee.   51,302
|applicants.  2606 accepted.   The math is easy to see.  (Numbers might
|not be exact but they are close.  I kept finding different amounts even
|on the schools websites.)   My daughters app fee was credited to her
|account after she confirmed enrollment.    Now I don't know if every
|big University does that for all enrollees, but they sure as hell can
|afford to do it with the percentages that actually enroll vs accepted,
|vs applied.   Millions in fees every year.


|u/cheetahprintshawty - 1 hour
|
|insurance


|u/Abacussin - 1 hour
|
|Insurance.


|u/whygpt - 48 minutes
|
|Jake Paul vs Tyson


|u/Ok-Turnip-7500 - 10 hours
|
|90% of this thread thinks receiving exactly what was offered at the
|quoted price is somehow a scam. 


|u/ExpertRegister1353 - 9 hours
|
|Religion 


|u/MeCheapo - 8 hours
|
|Marriage.


|u/izzyk - 7 hours
|
|Living


|u/NewsboyHank - 10 hours
|
|The insurance industry


|u/linesinthewater - 9 hours
|
|Religion.


|u/clancy-ok - 8 hours
|
|Donald Trump pretending to care about other people.


|u/ElectrumDragon28 - 8 hours
|
|Religion, all of it.


|u/bobroberts1954 - 10 hours
|
|Religion.


|u/Impossible-Taro-2330 - 6 hours
|
|MAGA


|u/BustySunshine03 - 10 hours
|
|Wedding photography packages. Got quoted $4000 for 6 hours of photos.
|Like, I get it's a skill, but charging extra just because the word
|'wedding' is attached is ridiculous.


  |u/WPG_Charger - 10 hours
  |
  |The wedding industry in general is ridiculous. Everything is jacked
  |up in price just cause the word wedding is attached. Want a limo ride
  |cool, oh did you say it's for a wedding party? We'll we have to
  |charge extra now.


  |u/Kodomachine - 10 hours
  |
  |Setup a Google photos link and pass it out via QR code and hand them
  |out or attach to a program or something. You can get a ton of photos
  |and different perspectives from your whole event. Hire a photographer
  |just to do the "traditional family" and "bride & groom" photos and
  |then cut them loose. May help some save some cash.


  |u/Periodic_Disorder - 10 hours
  |
  |I wanted to book a cabaret act for my upcoming reception. Friends
  |with the venue owner and he says to let him ask, because the second
  |you mention a wedding it increases in price by 100%


|u/Binky216 - 9 hours
|
|The current President-Elect.


|u/SirVeritas79 - 8 hours
|
|Trickle down economics. But this next tax cut will make up for the last
|40 years!!!


|u/Civil_Biscotti_7446 - 8 hours
|
| MAGA


|u/Mono_Clear - 11 hours
|
|Federal taxes


|u/Quadstriker - 9 hours
|
|In the history of man?  Religion.


|u/Infostarter2 - 10 hours
|
|Amazon Prime. A monthly fee to get free deliveries is only useful if
|you get a ton of stuff from Amazon, otherwise you’re just putting more
|of your money in their coffers.  You can filter a search by “free
|shipping “ and avoid that nonsense.


|u/pogo528 - 10 hours
|
|Any time share, especially Wyndham resorts


|u/FromundaCheeseLigma - 10 hours
|
|Renting a water heater


|u/Murada11 - 9 hours
|
|Insurance and property tax come to mind


|u/Dnlx5 - 9 hours
|
|Car financing, with the consumer stock market a close second. The dark
|pools ensure we will never get more than 15%


|u/Pinktiger11 - 9 hours
|
|Just a reminder that overpriced is not the same as a scam. Overpriced
|is subjective, which the person who wrote this knew, as they wrote
|“consider” in the title. A scam is when a person/ company offers you a
|product or service in exchange for a certain agreed upon payment, and
|then does not deliver on what was agreed upon.


|u/ffffh - 9 hours
|
|Hotel reward points.


  |u/Babou13 - 9 hours
  |
  |I've enjoyed them.. Company paid for my hotel. Went from no status to
  |ambassador elite for Marriott. Cashed in points to get a new OLED TV
  |for cheap and a bunch of peripherals for my PC from Amazon for free


|u/ylmor92 - 9 hours
|
|Financial Advisors


|u/MarciMay24 - 9 hours
|
|Charging cords for phones.


|u/HotCarl169 - 9 hours
|
|The Tyson Paul fight is up there.


|u/Azurnight - 9 hours
|
|The current housing market. Most houses are either bought out by a big
|company or just completely empty.


|u/lil_chungy - 9 hours
|
|Currently the Paul vs Tyson fight. Complete scam


|u/tblazen87 - 8 hours
|
|Triple taxed wages,  home n auto insurance


|u/chasingsunset42 - 8 hours
|
|Taxes.


|u/thatscrollingqueen - 8 hours
|
|Taxes in the USA. Where is my money going?


|u/FanGroundbreaking176 - 8 hours
|
|Insurance


|u/Letstreehouse - 8 hours
|
|Social media


|u/Imaginary_Being5286 - 8 hours
|
| Publishing manuscripts in academia


|u/kit-christopher - 8 hours
|
|New York City


|u/According_Smoke1385 - 8 hours
|
|Health Insurance.     Advertising


|u/The_Great_Googly_Moo - 8 hours
|
|Dating apps as a guy. It's no different than a slot machine


|u/three_quarter_ - 8 hours
|
|Most taxes


|u/hamorbacon - 8 hours
|
|The IRS


|u/Imaginary-Rub5758 - 8 hours
|
|Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul.


|u/Great_Obligation_375 - 8 hours
|
|Car insurance


|u/Easy-Mongoose-9952 - 7 hours
|
|A Boxing match between a retired champ with a broken body and a you
|tube influencer half his age. I mean c'mon they didn't even pretend to
|be my long lost twin from a far away land. #JakePaulvMikeTyson


|u/dyingbreedsociety - 7 hours
|
|Life.


|u/knowsnothing316 - 7 hours
|
|Having to pay to park at hospitals. Built with taxpayer money and
|maintained with it too.


|u/Inanotherworld2025 - 7 hours
|
|What we think life’s gonna be like when we are a grown up vs the
|reality that it is.


|u/SoloDev1 - 7 hours
|
|Insurance


|u/cygnusX1and2 - 7 hours
|
|Mortgages. Why the fuck does a lending institution get to collect twice
|the amount (or more) paid for a property. Ok, maybe on an investment
|property but for a primary residence? Bullshit.


|u/ironheadrat - 7 hours
|
|Insurance! Car insurance, home insurance, flood insurance. It's like
|throwing money into a hole until you need to make a claim, then they
|will try any way they can not to pay.


|u/Brian2005l - 7 hours
|
|The amount of money that goes to ownership and, in some cases,
|management.  It’s baked into the rules, and it dwarfs what you lose to
|taxes. Most people don’t even notice it.


|u/MethodNo4625 - 7 hours
|
|Insurance


|u/Plus_Syrup9701 - 7 hours
|
|Tax


|u/VonTastrophe - 7 hours
|
|MAGA


|u/Payasita403 - 7 hours
|
|Fees of any kind. Having to pay for parking anywhere. A bag of chips
|being half filled with air


|u/moto400 - 7 hours
|
|Insurance… of all types.


|u/SlashZom - 7 hours
|
|Definitely Insurance.


|u/rmunoz1994 - 7 hours
|
|US capitalism, as it currently stands.


|u/taco_jones - 7 hours
|
|Elections


|u/Ziggysan - 6 hours
|
|Organized religion.


|u/310mbre - 6 hours
|
|LinkedIn Premium. I've activated it both as a job holder and job
|seeker, literally never gotten a response with hundreds of outreach
|attempts


|u/gorohoroh - 6 hours
|
|Did someone say insurance?


|u/BeeWee2020 - 6 hours
|
|Life


|u/Hermetlk - 6 hours
|
|Life


|u/kjacobs03 - 6 hours
|
|Religion


|u/Sandpaper_Pants - 6 hours
|
|"Socialism is baaaaad"  At least in the US, we can't come together and
|do things that advance the well-being of humanity because we are just
|too goddamn stupid.


|u/BrandtCharlemagne - 6 hours
|
|Taxes


|u/GingyBreadMan420 - 6 hours
|
|Property and income taxes


|u/Raegnarr - 6 hours
|
|Politicians... they act like they're trying to help.. then get insanely
|rich even though their salaries don't support that huge net worth


|u/Lilgorbe - 6 hours
|
|Life itself….we all die. Just to repeat the cycle all over again. The
|universe balancing out the equations


|u/MudMade1316 - 6 hours
|
|The American governments taxation system


|u/SavagRavioli - 6 hours
|
|Trickle down economics


|u/jessicalee_3 - 6 hours
|
|Scientology


|u/SantaClausOG - 6 hours
|
|Paying taxes and walking past homeless people living on the street
|while the government sends money to Ukraine and Israel.


|u/TrainerBubbly2497 - 6 hours
|
|Most things apple makes


|u/Economy-Prune-8600 - 6 hours
|
|Democratic Party


|u/Mr_Grumpy_Pant5 - 6 hours
|
|Insurance


|u/SuccessfulMumenRider - 6 hours
|
|Insurance


|u/Ice-ColdThunderCloud - 6 hours
|
|Easy. Convenience fees for buying tickets online. You're already doing
|all the work by using the website, finding your seat, entering your
|payment details and yet they have the audacity to charge you extra for
|it. Absolute robbery and we all just accept it like it's normal.


|u/HappyMealCrocs - 5 hours
|
|Reddit


|u/DM0331 - 5 hours
|
|Casino gambling. Psychologically casinos are made to keep you playing
|and give false sense of winning. They are completely okay with stealing
|thousands to millions of dollars from players but the second you are
|deemed an ‘advantage player’ by shifting odds by a percent or two in
|your favor, you are done. They will make it extremely difficult for you
|to win any money since you can beat them at their own game.


|u/G-Unit11111 - 5 hours
|
|In app purchases  Pay $50 for worthless power ups and you still can't
|pass the level.


|u/isleoffurbabies - 5 hours
|
|Crypto