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|u/Buck_Thorn - 17 hours
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|Gee, that's a real shame.
|u/SheepSurfz - 15 hours
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|Anyway...
|u/IndependentVoice3240 - 3 hours
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|Now watch this put
|u/minkey-on-the-loose - 16 hours
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|Someone mentioned here that this has repercussions in the petroleum
|extraction part of the supply chain. If they have to turn off a pump in
|the tundra because they have no refinery capacity, the pump or pipeline
|freezes up and cannot be restarted. Is there a better description or am
|I not fully understanding the issue?
|u/HecticOnsen - 12 hours
|
|You’re kinda right. Oil and gas production is exceedingly hard to
|‘turn off’ and just as hard to restart. In normal circumstances you
|don’t stop production even if you aren’t selling the product, you
|stockpile after refining. When you run out of storage space, you lower
|the price. You can control the pace coming out of wellhead but
|stopping it creates all sorts of problems. Some field compositions are
|easier than others.
|u/Sayakai - 11 hours
|
|[With gas you may go even further once you run out of storage and
|literally just set it on fire.](https://www.bbc.com/news/science-
|environment-62652133)
|u/HecticOnsen - 11 hours
|
|Which is also my go-to solution for nearly any problem!
|u/mothtoalamp - 9 hours
|
|Yep. Then I have a different problem.
|u/acchaladka - 10 hours
|
|Unexpected r/TheGoodPlace
|u/myusernameblabla - 6 hours
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|You deserve a top government position!
|u/HecticOnsen - 5 hours
|
|While my skills at burning everything to the ground are
|certainly relevant, will my lack of criminal history, or
|extremist affiliations be a roadblock? I can probably ramp up
|my discrimination against minorities if it will clinch the
|deal…
|u/myusernameblabla - 5 hours
|
|I’m afraid that’s too far left communist. If however you can
|follow commands like ‘JUMP!’ and are willing to work free
|and pass on information for example then I might be able to
|refer to you for a staffer position.
|u/Jet2work - 5 hours
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|the ukrainians are trying to assist with this solution
|u/leshake - 16 hours
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|I would doubt that. Generally you don't plug a well even if you are
|losing money. If they can't refine it they will sell it crude for less
|money just like Iran does.
|u/Usernametaken1121 - 9 hours
|
|That's assuming they have the infrastructure to sell it crude to
|make a profit. Their infrastructure is conditioned for refining, I
|don't think it's as easy as flipping a switch and selling it crude,
|they would have done that the moment refineries were closing for
|spans at a time and other were working at half capacity due to low
|profitability.
|u/minkey-on-the-loose - 16 hours
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|I guess they have storage or a market then.
|u/leshake - 16 hours
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|They can always sell to China and India. In fact, India will
|relable it as Indian and sell it to Europe. Same as it ever was,
|just more expensive.
|u/MaybeCuckooNotAClock - 11 hours
|
|So, is this why all of our clothes come from Pakistan, and are
|made with polyester now instead of cotton, as a resident of
|North America? Is it due to laundered Russian oil being refined
|and entering the textile manufacturing industry, and what I
|might have read once, a tariff on Chinese cotton?
|u/onlyhammbuerger - 5 hours
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|No, this is purely down to greed and no ecological
|responsibility in the textile industry. Cheap synthetic fibers
|"help", but have been available for longer than the russian
|invasion.
|u/AnEvilMrDel - 11 hours
|
|Storage has limits (capacity) so yeah - it’ll need to be marketed
|elsewhere and probably heavily discounted. Pushing crude is much
|different than pushing refined product especially if there’s any
|residual water cut
|u/Evening-Abies-4679 - 8 hours
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|They sell it's to BRICS Brazil, India, China and South Africa and
|other allies.
|u/Guac_in_my_rarri - 10 hours
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|Turning off extraction is the last thing any supplier wants to do.
|It's extremely expensive to start and end extraction. It's just like
|flying, the most fuel intensive part sof the journey are take off and
|landing.
|u/FNA_Couster - 11 hours
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|It's not impossible, but it's time consuming and expensive as fuck.
|And that's assuming you have correct & working equipment, which they
|likely don't. Usually the best option in a scenario like this is going
|into low idle but who knows if that's even an option for them. Used
|to work in O&G.
|u/thekernel - 8 hours
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|> going into low idle just put it in H
|u/PrivateWilly - 8 hours
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|This is correct for a lot of their infrastructure. The real kicker is
|that to restart everything they would need western companies whom are
|currently sanctioned as the only home grown engineers capable of
|restarting the systems are all retired or in their 60’s. If the pipes
|back up and freeze they’re gone, and for a while.
|u/Long_Entertainer_420 - 16 hours
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|I think if it’s somewhere cold like Siberia they have to cap it
|because the water in the oil will freeze
|u/djfreshswag - 7 hours
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|Production facilities and the wells that feed them shut in several
|times a year. Typically you just don’t want a well sitting idle for
|months. So say they have 10 wells, they may switch which one is shut
|in every couple weeks or month. It also depends on what the field is
|producing. We shut in our gas fields in West Texas for months at a
|time when prices go negative because of pipeline maintenance. There
|are fields we used to operate that the well performance is permanently
|reduced from frequent extended shut ins during Covid. So in summary,
|Russia likely knows which fields don’t have issues when shut in for
|extended periods, and shuts in those instead of the ones that may
|require costly work overs to return wells to prior performance. I
|would expect low to no impact on their overall production capacity
|from cutting production say 10% for an extended period
|u/candya_pple - 4 hours
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|If they mentioned it already, why are you repeating it? Just upvote.
|u/StrangeBedfellows - 16 hours
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|Crap, I can't subscribe to a comment for replies can I Edit - yes
|you can I'm dumb. It's just "reply notifications" instead of follow or
|subscribe
|u/Showmethepathplease - 16 hours
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|Save it
|u/Public-Eagle6992 - 16 hours
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|I‘m pretty sure you can. On the three dots and then there should be
|a button for that
|u/minkey-on-the-loose - 16 hours
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|Idk
|u/Statertater - 5 hours
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|Wont be tundra forever!
|u/Direlion - 13 hours
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|They must be champing at the bit to get Trump back into office so he can
|start working for the Russian people again.
|u/WonderfulPlace7225 - 12 hours
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|You get an upvote for correctly using "champing"
|u/iwatchcredits - 10 hours
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|I prefer to chomp
|u/CEZ3 - 11 hours
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|Ditto! And WonderfulPlace7225 gets an upvote for up-voting
|Direlion.
|u/Aggressive-Will-4500 - 10 hours
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|Trippo! Upvoted for up-voting the up-vote.
|u/Statutory_Apes - 9 hours
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|Quatro! I just want to be part of it!
|u/rybeardj - 7 hours
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|it can be both
|u/WonderfulPlace7225 - 7 hours
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|yes, but one is correct and the other was used by the ignorant
|masses so much that it's been fudged into being an acceptable
|variant Edit: for the ignorant masses, no this is not how
|language works. One is correct and one is wrong despite being
|culturally acceptable. >In the end, it’s just wrong to say
|“chomping,” because “chomping” is a transitive verb, or a verb
|that needs an object for it to make sense. In other words, you
|have to have something to chomp on if you want to use “chomp.” A
|horse doesn’t chomp, or bite, the bit—he champs, or grinds, his
|teeth. No bit is necessary for a champing to happen, so champing
|is an intransitive verb, which means no “object” is required. >
|https://www.portablepress.com/blog/2014/04/chomping-vs-champing/
|u/arkezxa - 6 hours
|
|That's literally the stupidest thing we've ever done with our
|language. We capitulated to the worst of us -- I'm starting to
|notice a trend...
|u/rybeardj - 6 hours
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|that's how language works though, words constantly being
|changed/added/replaced...like, "ignorant", "mass" and "variant"
|all used to have an 'e' at the end but they don't
|anymore...doesn't mean that you didn't use the correct spellings
|though or that you're one of the ignorant masses
|u/WonderfulPlace7225 - 6 hours
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|Horses don't chomp, they champ. Uneducated and horse-ignorant
|people say "chomping at the bit". "You sound like a damn fool
|when you say it wrong." - Old Biff No, [they are not intercha
|ngeable](https://www.portablepress.com/blog/2014/04/chomping-
|vs-champing/) > In the end, it’s just wrong to say
|“chomping,” because “chomping” is a transitive verb, or a verb
|that needs an object for it to make sense. In other words, you
|have to have something to chomp on if you want to use “chomp.”
|A horse doesn’t chomp, or bite, the bit—he champs, or grinds,
|his teeth. No bit is necessary for a champing to happen, so
|champing is an intransitive verb, which means no “object” is
|required.
|u/rybeardj - 3 hours
|
|dictionaries say it's fine: [Merriam-
|Webster](https://www.merriam-
|webster.com/thesaurus/champing%20at%20the%20bit) [Cambridge
|](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/cha
|mp-at-the-bit) Or just type "chomp at the bit" into google
|and you'll see the definition they pull from Oxford.
|Personal blogs tend to be poor conveyors of how language
|actually works. For example, "chomp" [can be transitive or
|intransitive](https://www.merriam-
|webster.com/dictionary/chomp), which defeats the premise of
|your blogger (also, please note in the 2nd intransitive
|definition that "chomp at the bit" is referenced). If
|you're interested in language, I highly suggest [reading
|this](https://www.dictionary.com/e/getting-words-into-
|dictionaries/), which goes into the prescriptive (you) vs.
|descriptive (me + every English dictionary editor out there)
|debate.
|u/WonderfulPlace7225 - 3 hours
|
|Again, I am not interested in language. As a turn of
|phrase you are correct, morons have taken an actual horse
|dental/medical term and abused it into a new phrase that
|is literally incorrect if you are interested in not
|sounding like an idiot, please read the link I shared
|instead of "doing your own research" Jfc no wonder Trump
|won
|u/LilDutchy - 1 hour
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|This is how you get An Apron from A Naperon and A Nickname
|from An Ekename
|u/nav17 - 6 hours
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|Love it or hate it, that's how languages work. This is exactly
|how we came to speak the language we do today...
|u/WonderfulPlace7225 - 6 hours
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|No, it's not. Champing is a physically different process than
|chomping. Horses do not chomp at the bit. They grind their
|teeth on the bit, which is called champing It's the
|difference between biting and grinding - You wouldn't say
|grind the bullet, you say bite the bullet - You don't say
|chomping at the bit, you say champing at the bit It's not a
|language evolution thing, it's a red/ blue thing. Just because
|a person with full color vision sees red and mistakenly calls
|it blue doesn't mean that red and blue are the same, the
|person is just an idiot. Even if everybody agreed, they're
|still wrong. Red and blue are different colors even if you
|call them the same.
|u/nav17 - 5 hours
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|Sure, but again, that's how languages work. Check out
|Italian dialects for more clear examples. Words that sound
|similar are mixed and misconstrued over time, all the time,
|to eventually create new dialects and change common
|expressions altogether.
|u/WonderfulPlace7225 - 5 hours
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|No, this is not a language problem, this is an ignorance
|problem. you go to your dentist for a mouthguard because
|you grind your teeth, the dentist tells you to stop biting
|ice, do you see the difference? Champing means grinding,
|chomping means biting /chewing You can grind/champ your
|teeth, but you can't chew/chomp your teeth
|u/mad_m4tty - 3 hours
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|The dentist analogy doesn’t quite work here, though.
|People aren’t debating whether “grinding” and “biting”
|are different actions—they’re using “chomping at the
|bit” as a common phrase, even if it’s not the original
|term. Language is about communication, and if most
|people understand “chomping” to mean eager or impatient
|in this context, it’s not ignorance—it’s just linguistic
|evolution. Words often shift over time, and insisting on
|strict definitions when the meaning is clear doesn’t
|make the usage wrong, just different.
|u/WonderfulPlace7225 - 3 hours
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|it's literally a dental term chomping is biting
|champing is grinding HORSES DO NOT CHOMP THE BIT IT
|WOULD BREAK THEIR TEETH the common phase is "champing
|at the bit" the idiot's common phrase is "chomping at
|the bit" so many idiots exist that it became a phrase
|if its own to inform educated people of one's
|ignorance by using the wrong word
|u/I_might_be_weasel - 16 hours
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|Neat.
|u/nathingz - 10 hours
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|Shut. It. Down.
|u/MassiveKratomDump - 16 hours
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|Let's put another shrimp on the barbie!
|u/oeeiae - 13 hours
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|New Jersey?
|u/Master_Debatin - 10 hours
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|Austria!!
|u/Adept-Mulberry-8720 - 9 hours
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|Good job!
|u/906805 - 10 hours
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|How many refineries do they have?
|u/schlitz91 - 10 hours
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|Surprisingly, only about a dozen. They are a net exporter of crude
|oil. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil_refineries
|u/Usernametaken1121 - 8 hours
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|That's more than most. Saudias have five. Brazil- 18 US has 130.
|u/906805 - 9 hours
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|Thanks. Good info.
|u/Psweeting - 5 hours
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|Don't let anyone else in the UK know please. Any excuse to hike energy
|prices will be taken.
|u/Pexkokingcru - 4 hours
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|Got shipped overseas
|u/3050_mjondalen - 1 hour
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|Now, hit them again, and after the refineries are down, hit the crude
|oil production. Bleed them dry
|u/Fahslabend - 12 hours
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|It's not just a message for Russia. It's for all Europe. >In 2021, it
|[Russia] was the largest exporter of oil and natural gas to the European
|Union, (90%)[1][2] and 40% of gas consumed in the EU came from
|Russia.[3][4]
|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_in_the_European_energy_sector
|u/KnowledgeAmoeba - 11 hours
|
|Here is some updated information. [In 2023, gas imports from Russia to
|the European Union was
|8%](https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/eu-gas-supply/)
|>The share of Russia’s pipeline gas in EU imports dropped from over
|40% in 2021 to about 8% in 2023. For pipeline gas and LNG combined,
|Russia accounted for less than 15% of total EU gas imports.
|u/Usernametaken1121 - 8 hours
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|It kinda sucks the blockade on Russian energy caused UKs economy to
|break, but it's a noble sacrifice.
|u/MasterSpliffBlaster - 6 hours
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|Completely ignoring Brexit are we?
|u/Usernametaken1121 - 5 hours
|
|I never said Brexit didn't play a major part. I just said the
|end of Russian energy imports was the final nail, everything
|would have been relatively fine without that. UKs economy was
|poised for a rebound until they had to import alternative energy
|sources at higher and higher interest rates (caused by Brexit)
|creating massive amount sof debt the government can't pay back
|while at the same time funding all the other things it needs to.
|This isn't a political take or a jab at Ukrainian support, it's
|merely an economic reality. Google "uk debt caused by high
|interest rate borrowing" if you're curious.
|u/Large_Mud4438 - 16 hours
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|Don’t worry Germanys Scholtz will send part’s…
|u/Anasmasia - 14 hours
|
|Bro wtf is this fake ahh news?? There exists no other news source to
|corroborate this one. Additionally the Russian economy has been one of
|the fastest growing economies in Europe this year and in 2023.
|(https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68823399.amp), as well as having
|record low unemployment
|rates(https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/unemployment-rate). If these
|facts exist it just points to the Russian oil and gas export industries
|are in fact growing, and thus this news source is pretty much 100% fake
|or just misleading. Maybe 3 refineries are closing due to being outdated
|or smth like so, but the news article mentions none of that, and
|contradicts the aforementioned facts. Its just fake and I want people to
|be more critical whilst reading a news source for I see many in the
|comments have just chosen to accept it blindly.
|u/Lord_Frederick - 13 hours
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|> There exists no other news source to corroborate this one.
|https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russian-refineries-cut-oil-
|runs-due-losses-closures-loom-2024-11-15/ > Russian economy has been
|one of the fastest growing economies in Europe this year and in 2023
|Because they went into a war economy > having record low unemployment
|rates Because a huge chunk of the workforce got drafted or fled the
|country > If these facts exist it just points to the Russian oil and
|gas export industries are in fact growing, and thus this news source
|is pretty much 100% fake or just misleading. [Russia is one of the
|most expensive places in the world to produce oil, new analysis
|produced for Saudi Arabia’s state-owned oil giant Saudi Aramco has
|found. The cost of producing a single barrel of Brent crude oil came
|in at around $42 for Russian onshore projects, and $44 for offshore
|projects, IHS Markit estimated. That was more than twice the $17 per
|barrel production costs in Saudi Arabia — the cheapest in the
|world.](https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/11/12/russian-oil-
|production-most-expensive-world-saudi-aramco-ipo-a68132)
|u/LMurch13 - 12 hours
|
|"Hello, 911? I'd like to report a murder...."
|u/Anasmasia - 12 hours
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|Ah alr I didn’t really exactly know how a war economy works but yes
|this explains a lot thx I was just taking the stats at face value
|there lol kinda hypocritical of me, but damn the increase in prize
|for Russian oil and how it has made it less viable on the
|international market is interesting af. Will props look into that
|side of global trade sometime in the future but yes again thx. Sucks
|how you are like the only guy to comment smth useful tho wish more
|people did that and with sources to. Genuinely big respects for you
|u/AdorableBowl7863 - 12 hours
|
|Get in that trench Boris. Join your North Korean friends and get in
|that trench. You’re wasting time here
|u/Anasmasia - 12 hours
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|Damn lil bro I was just pointing out the discrepancies in the
|article and how it went contrary to facts I personally believed
|painted an entirely different story on the state of Russia’s oil
|industries. But like actually your implying that I should go kill
|myself like wtf can’t we be civil?
|u/Sanity_in_Moderation - 11 hours
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|All you do is post Kremlin propaganda and lies. No. We cannot be
|civil. The world will be a better place when you are not in it.
|u/AdorableBowl7863 - 11 hours
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|Russian troll fucked itself
|u/Anasmasia - 11 hours
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|That shi is straight up messed up tho. There are many MANY
|people I don’t agree with but I believe discourse of all types
|only help strengthen our democracies. Wishing death upon those
|you don’t agree with is simply another level of stupidity,
|pettiness, vanity, and childishness.
|u/AdorableBowl7863 - 10 hours
|
|Little bro, we are not playing tick tack toe. This is war
|little homie. Your country has declared mine an enemy.
|Therefore we are enemies. Put on your big boy pants and accept
|responsibility. If you didn’t have a job trolling the internet
|you would be in a trench. Simple as that. It’s funny to see
|you crying after your country is blowing up dams and killing
|innocent people. Get out of here with your crap crybaby
|u/Anasmasia - 10 hours
|
|Umm I ’m not Russian tho?
|u/AdorableBowl7863 - 10 hours
|
|Are you asking me? Your grammar and comment history says
|your a kremlin loving, Putin sucking, vodka drinking
|Sputnik fan. Your lies don’t fly here little bro
|u/Anasmasia - 2 hours
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|Liksom du kan enkelt gå inn på google translate å finne
|ut om hvilket språk det er jeg snakker nå men poenget er
|at du må være mer sivilisert med online diskusjoner. Det
|og jeg tror ikke jeg har så fucka grammatikk, fikk en
|nice karakter i engelsk i fjor. Fortsatt vær
|respektfull, med respekt så kan vi skape en bedre verden
|Edit: your comment history doesn’t portray much in terms
|of cognitive independence either. Most of it you don’t
|even put sources for your statements. Are you sure I’m
|the bot here?
|u/AdorableBowl7863 - 11 hours
|
|Listen here Russian cosmonaut, nobody wants to hear your fake
|news. There is a war happening as we speak. Russian bot trolls are
|all over Reddit and I don’t have time to deal with all of you.
|u/Anasmasia - 11 hours
|
|I provided reliable sources for my info tho to prove that shi
|wasn’t fake :/ That and I’ve already admitted there were things
|I didn’t know to another commenter, I really am struggling to
|understand your aggressiveness here. First you tell me to
|essentially die in a trench and now your pretty much
|dehumanizing me by calling me a bot? And propagandist???
|u/giabollc - 14 hours
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|The lady doth protesteth too much, methinks.
|u/Anasmasia - 14 hours
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|It is like the king behind the arras
|u/eagleshark - 12 hours
|
|You have a point that the constant stream of gloomy forecasts for
|Russia are often extremely misleading. I am especially annoyed at
|any article that claims something is “on the verge”, or “about to” or
|“could” happen. Until something happens, it’s all just predictions
|and wild speculation. On the other hand , these three refineries have
|already cut production this year due to low profitability, so
|*something* is clearly happening. It’s something to keep an eye on.
|