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|u/DisembodiedOats - 14 hours
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|The mass grave is really hard to look at
|u/Itsoktobe - 12 hours
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|I'm glad I did, though.
|u/Elitegamer9568 - 7 hours
|
|It really does feel better if I'm atleast not ignorant of this.
|u/Cumster22 - 12 hours
|
|It makes one lose hope in humanity even though the picture displays
|human cooperation for the greater good.
|u/LurkerFromTheVoid - 10 hours
|
|The girl... She has no feet. F#ck Putin. Even Hell will be a small
|punishment for Him.
|u/Ill-Lynx-3355 - 8 hours
|
|Sad very sad. And now I'm hear a shoots to fcking shaheds and I'm so
|tired mentality of this. Live ur best life ppl. Bcs we can't.
|u/InternalRow1612 - 8 hours
|
|A lot of people don’t know what shehds is. So to make it easier
|it’s a drone
|u/booksforducks - 8 hours
|
|Fam, we may be from different countries, but I believe in you, and
|you can do this. Good luck.
|u/xyzszso - 8 hours
|
|Thoughts and prayers, fam; thoughts and prayers.
|u/LiftLaw1998 - 5 hours
|
|Anyone thinking ruzzians wouldn’t intentionally do this to a little
|girl clearly have not been paying attention. I have closely followed
|the conflict and it’s a very evil world. I have also seen the best
|in humanity and heroes are everywhere. Awe inspiring.
|u/eloaelle - 8 hours
|
|May he suffer ever moment his victims did from now until forever.
|u/Jomskylark - 1 hour
|
|>Even Hell will be a small punishment for Him. It won't be a
|punishment at all. After Putin dies he will simply cease to exist.
|We have one chance to punish him and that is in this lifetime.
|u/Juking_is_rude - 12 hours
|
|I thought it was ribbons on the ankles, but it's a restraint, this is
|probably from that one village that was occupied by russia early in
|the war, where they tied up and executed a bunch of civilians.
|u/Kangacrew - 11 hours
|
|Maybe. But it’s probably because it’s easier to deal with a body
|when its tied like that. Less limbs moving around. Morbid as hell
|either way
|u/Juking_is_rude - 11 hours
|
|I remember seeing photos of people tied in cloth like that when
|the village was retaken, it was a big thing in the news. idk I
|could be misremembering. besides that, practically, think about
|using that sling, it wouldnt make it easier.
|u/Tobipig - 10 hours
|
|The picture is probably from the Butcha massacre. Where Ukraine
|managed to deal a heavy blow to Russia during the start of the
|war near Kiev. As a result of that victory Russia mass executed
|civilians.
|u/booksforducks - 8 hours
|
|Holy fucking shit
|u/SinisterCheese - 10 hours
|
|Look... Bodies are quite hard to move around. Rigor mortis
|disappears after 24-36 hours, after that the body is just limp. So
|if you want to move it around you need to bag it, bind it, or wrap
|it. These been added to funeral rites in many cultures. If you ever
|tried to move a unconcious person, or just a toddler who went all
|limp as a protest, you know how hard it is to move them. Those legs
|are neatly tied with a piece of fabric without looping around the
|limbs. Its there to help the people to move the body. And generally
|as long as you can keep the legs together, it becomes way easier.
|If you got a gurney or a stretcher, it isn't that big of a problem.
|But if you don't... You simply can't practically move a body. Even
|many cadaver transportation bags come with straps that you can tie
|the bag tight. Seriously... Anything that is bigger than like a
|domestic cat, if it's dead and rigor mortis has passed, moving is
|really difficult... And if you want to be respectful doing it...
|even harder.
|u/TDRWV - 10 hours
|
|The pic of the injured little girl being carried was the worst for me.
|Every member of congress should be made to view these pics and explain
|how and why they could vote against aid for Ukraine. The worst people
|are elcted to our congress to represent us. We need to change now.
|u/ashy_larrys_elbow - 9 hours
|
|I momentarily thought the same thing when I saw a picture of a girl
|in Gaza with her entire bottom jaw blown off, just standing there in
|shock. Then I remembered politicians don’t have a soul.
|u/booksforducks - 8 hours
|
|Not all, some are nice(my grandpa is alive because one paid for
|his kidney transplant surgery, and another paid for a friend of
|mines cancer surgery(to get rid of it, it worked)
|u/fortestingprpsses - 9 hours
|
|Those congresspersons are elected by the worst of us.
|u/shamo365 - 11 hours
|
|Hard to see, try to live in such a circumstances
|u/deathblossoming - 11 hours
|
|It's like seeing footage of concentration camps. Hundreds if not
|thousands of bodies being piled into a hole with a bulldozer. Really
|shows the depravity humans can stoop to.
|u/Ok-Passion-8730 - 13 hours
|
|It really is, the next member to join them is a female with those bow
|tied soles. How devastating
|u/Semyonov - 12 hours
|
|Actually it looks like they tied their legs together
|u/Thadrach - 12 hours
|
|Hopefully there's a special place in hell for tankies.
|u/EmmEnnEff - 12 hours
|
|Welcome to how I've felt for decades about some other wars of
|aggression. (Ones that *our* assholes started, and half of us my
|neighbors have been cheerleading. Anyone who's been doing that -
|fuck every single one of you, *in particular*. You know who you
|are.)
|u/marketplaced - 11 hours
|
|They look like civilians too, this war needs to end.
|u/OkYogurtcloset8817 - 11 hours
|
|We’ve seen those before. Never gets easy, and never should.
|u/frankafru - 8 hours
|
|Every time I’m seeing this picture my tears come out
|u/ktoner1017 - 2 hours
|
|Tragic.
|u/Atophy - 5 minutes
|
|It made me angry... it is a tragedy and waste of human life. All their
|potential, hopes, dreams... casually snuffed out in a moment,
|collateral damage in some rich mans ego trip.
|u/Fusciee - 16 hours
|
|Has it really been that long already
|u/Time-Pomegranate-503 - 16 hours
|
|Just about 3 more months and it's been 3 years.. So much for that SMO
|that was supposed to be over so quickly, huh.
|u/dkras1 - 14 hours
|
|This war started in February 2014 with Crimean annexation and
|military intervention in Donbas region of Ukraine. In 2022 this war
|changed to full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
|u/TheyCallMeMrMaybe - 14 hours
|
|Yup. Russia claimed for a decade that the militants in Donbas were
|"private mercenaries" but were proven to be unmarked Russian
|Ground Force soldiers.
|u/Time-Pomegranate-503 - 14 hours
|
|Might have wanted to put that in my comment too. Well you did for
|me! Excellent service! I'd suggest anyone watching the Vice
|documentary they made in 2014 on the rebellion. (Might wanna
|mention not to watch it, if you're squeamish)
|u/Krasovchik - 13 hours
|
|It’s called the Maidan Revolution to make it easier to find.
|Thats when the Russian interference in their country came to
|head and Ukrainian Nationalism really took off in the country
|(for good and for bad). Shortly afterward was when the
|separatists appeared in 2014 and 2022 was when the war started.
|You hit the nail on the head.
|u/dkras1 - 13 hours
|
|Fuck off with your Russian propaganda about nationalism.
|Russian military kidnapped Crimean deputies to "vote" for
|referendum and sieged Ukrainian military bases. Russian
|special ops in April of 2014 started the war in Donbass by
|attacking police stations and SBU. Russian military didn't
|even hide it that much and crossed border multiple times with
|constant artillery shelling across the border.
|u/Krasovchik - 12 hours
|
|I never defended Russias actions. I actively worked against
|them during my time in military intelligence. You act like
|nationalism is immediately a bad thing. Before Maidan the
|culture of the country was very much just another post
|soviet nation. The name “Ukraine” in Russian essentially
|translates to “the edge of Russia”. After the Maidan
|Revolution, Ukraine began to develop its national identity
|in the 21st century, and wanted to join the EU and
|eventually NATO. They began to root out Russian corruption
|in their government. This is largely thanks TO the rise of
|Ukrainian nationalism. This is why Russian sent their
|incursion of “separatists” into Donbas. There was also
|evidence of former Russian generals and Colonels fielding
|these artillery strikes now having joined a PMC and acting
|as leaders to the “separatists”. But one can’t deny that a
|rise in nationalism, while good in this instance, also leads
|to negative outcomes. Whether that be the embrace of
|Ukraines far right into their military or the rise of SOME
|white nationalist Nazi adjacent groups within the country.
|The problem with Russian propaganda is it is often plausible
|enough to not be outright denied, however it’s always blown
|up to an extreme. While no one would agree with an incursion
|into a country in 2022 due to nazism, the reason Ukraine
|hasn’t outright denied the claim is due to the fact that the
|nationalism sprouted some Nazi ideals in poorer less
|educated parts of the country. In Eastern Europe, especially
|in post Soviet states, often nazism is viewed as a protest
|to the USSR, aka Russia. I spent time in eastern Latvia and
|there were many Nazi flags I would see. Some of them embrace
|the Nazi flag similarly to southern Americans wave the
|Confederate flag. It represents antiestablishmentism but the
|establishment being Russia. [here’s an article regarding
|Ukraines white supremacy
|problem](https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1290946)
|Putin is a war criminal with the death of millions on his
|hands. But let’s not dismiss history just because it’s
|inconvenient. Even if Ukraines problem was 100 fold, unless
|the government is acting on it, it does not facilitate a
|right to invade the country under the guise of a “special
|military operation”
|u/Talidel - 12 hours
|
|Nationalism is a bad thing. It's specifically supporting
|your country to the detriment and exclusion of other
|countries. Being patriotic isn't inherently bad, unless
|it's combined with being nationalistic.
|u/Krasovchik - 11 hours
|
|It also means advocacy or support for political
|independence of a nation. It’s the 2nd definition. It’s
|just when it’s taken to the extreme does it include the
|exclusion of others. Thus Ukraines want to join the EU
|and NATO was possible as well as was their rejection of
|previous Soviet ties. However nationalism within the
|government is different than poor and uneducated
|citizens understanding of that. Thus you get alt right
|nationalist groups.
|u/Educational_Love9148 - 11 hours
|
|Edge of what? When word Ukraine was first recorded Russia
|was just a Greek way for the name of medieval Rus state.
|And Ukraine was part of Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth.
|It's just one of the versions that it means Borderland.
|And it has no connection to modern country with that name.
|You've ate too much ruzzian propaganda, sir.
|u/Krasovchik - 10 hours
|
|It was originally Kievian Rus, the nation that Russia
|started from. Which is why in Ukraine they have fought
|against Russian propaganda (specifically Putin’s 2 hour
|“history lesson” on how it belongs to Russia broadcasted
|on government news when the war ramped up) It was named
|Ukraine by the Soviet Union based on the word Краина
|meaning “edge”. Adding the prefix У implying its
|ownership to Russia and the Soviet Union. Borderlands
|and edge of Russia are synonymous in this context. You
|are splitting hairs and then trying to imply something
|ridiculous. I have said numerous times in my post that I
|don’t support Russia and the most of the rest of the
|world doesn’t either.
|u/dkras1 - 9 hours
|
|It's not "edge". "Країна" - means "country" in
|Ukrainian and Ukraine (Україна) is basically means
|"native land/country". You're not supporting Russia
|and yet repeat Russian propaganda about far right
|nationalism problem. There's no nationalists in
|Ukrainian government. No one voted for their party.
|They are irrelevant. Of course with existential
|threat for nation (war is ingoing for almost 11 years)
|there are people that would support nationalistic
|ideas but there is no conflict with other minorities.
|Crimean Tatars and Ukrainians of Russian descent are
|fighting on Ukrainian side. Nationalism is just a
|form of patriotism. Russia wasted millions for
|propaganda about Nazi myth. They continue to use it as
|excuse for brutal war crimes and you're repeating
|their bullshit.
|u/alfa_omega - 11 hours
|
|What and Russia doesn't have an even bigger problem with
|nazis? Heard of wagner?! Every country has them, it isn't
|a reason to go to war over a few thousand idiots but carry
|on...
|u/Krasovchik - 11 hours
|
|I never said Nazism wasn’t a problem in Russia, nor did
|I compare the amount of nazis in Russia to Ukraine.
|Obviously Russia has likely comparable to more Nazis due
|to its conservative and nationalistic government And to
|your final point, that’s what I said in my post. There
|is no reason to create war over nazism. But that’s why
|I said Ukrainian nationalism is both a good and bad
|thing. It’s good because it emboldened Ukrainian
|citizens and politicians to develop their own national
|identity and push back on previous Soviet ties that
|Russia used to sew corruption, but it’s bad because it
|creates alt right nationalist groups in poorer less
|educated citizens, which in Eastern Europe often
|materialize as Nazi affiliated organizations. You’re
|stawmanning the hell out of my statements. We probably
|think the same about Russia and Ukraine, all I said was
|that Ukraine had a spike in Nationalism after the Maidan
|Revolution.
|u/alfa_omega - 12 hours
|
|For bad? Fuck off Ivan
|u/the_sheeper_sheep - 6 hours
|
|Fuck dude, times going by so fast even when you're trying to enjoy
|it and slow down. I'm not gonna lie, I don't remember much before
|covid. It feels like a blur compared to everything that's happened
|in the past like 4 years
|u/LimpConversation642 - 9 hours
|
|as a Ukrainian that never left I can say it felt simultaneously too
|long and instant. Our collective lives were put on pause and we're
|stuck in this groundhog day that never ends. Can't plan for the future
|or even expect it. It's a stupid feeling but time kinda stopped, so
|it's too long and too short at the same time To put things into
|perspective, the 'Soviet involvement' part of WW2 was 1418 days
|(1941-1945) and we're 3/4 of the way there. I just want to see a
|fucking plane in the sky and to be able to go out at night, simple
|things are the ones we mostly yearn for
|u/brihamedit - 15 hours
|
|They have insane stamina. That region produces tough resilient people.
|u/Thadrach - 12 hours
|
|Yep. We were afraid of Russia back during the Cold War...when Ukraine
|was part of it.
|u/apocalypse_later_ - 8 hours
|
|I get the sentiment but war does this for all civilians, everywhere.
|u/GreasyPeter - 7 hours
|
|You'd be surprised with how resilient the average person is when they
|literally have no other option except death.
|u/Horror-Layer-8178 - 16 hours
|
|Take that picture of the Russian armor trashed is where the Ukrainians
|stopped them in the initial days of the war?
|u/Time-Pomegranate-503 - 16 hours
|
|Yup, Battle of Kyiv. The very first month(s) of the Invasion. Lasted
|about a month.
|u/Njorls_Saga - 15 hours
|
|It was. It’s in Bucha, one of the suburbs. Bayraktar drones took out
|the lead and tail end vehicles trapping the column. Rest got wiped out
|because they couldn’t maneuver. Trying to move armoured columns
|through urban areas like this is incredibly risky. Chechen rebels did
|this repeatedly during the two wars there and Russia didn’t apparently
|learn the lesson very well.
|u/cat793 - 11 hours
|
|The Finns pioneered this strategy in the Winter War.
|u/alfa_omega - 12 hours
|
|They haven't learnt any lessons since WWII when it comes to anything
|really. Just throw more men and hardware down the same routes
|u/Njorls_Saga - 12 hours
|
|They did sort of try after Georgia. Too much corruption and rigid
|command doomed it though.
|u/llainen- - 15 hours
|
|Fuck Putin
|u/ClassBig6528 - 13 hours
|
|It's a shame for humanity that he hasn't been killed yet. That he's
|allowed to continue besmirching Earth with his existence.
|u/TDRWV - 10 hours
|
|And the American people that support putin.
|u/SacluxGemini - 14 hours
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|And Trump voters.
|u/elqrd - 11 hours
|
|and Netanyahu
|u/SidneyKreutzfeldt - 11 hours
|
|Also fuck Trump, and all the americans who voted for him.
|u/Satyampanchal - 6 hours
|
|Only Putin ?
|u/tav_stuff - 12 hours
|
|Fuck the Russian federation. A nation of people that continue to elect
|and support this dick head
|u/randomamericanofc - 11 hours
|
|May I introduce you to something called rigged elections
|u/Consistent-Metal9427 - 9 hours
|
|Yeah, first elected in 2000 and 24 years later he's still in
|power, and they supposedly had term limits but putin changed that
|law too.
|u/Jackbuddy78 - 10 hours
|
|They elected him before the elections became more fraudulent.
|https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Russian_presidential_election
|A comparison would be like if when Americans elected Trump in 2016
|he dismantled all their institutions and the collective populace
|jusy shrugged their shoulders.
|u/randomamericanofc - 9 hours
|
|To be fair how could they have known? Russia was already in a
|very poor state in 2000 already, and as soon as they elected him
|it was too late
|u/Consistent-Metal9427 - 9 hours
|
|You are right. In that wiki above it shows that he won that
|election with 53.4% of the vote. So almost half of the people
|didn't vote for him then.
|u/Jackbuddy78 - 9 hours
|
|Oh they knew lol >One of Putin's major campaign platforms
|was “dictatorship of the law” and “the stronger the state, the
|freer the people.”[2]
|u/randomamericanofc - 9 hours
|
|Interesting then, but could you drop a link to this
|u/Consistent-Metal9427 - 8 hours
|
|>Putin mounted almost no campaign in advance of the 2000
|elections. “He held no rallies, gave no speeches, and
|refused to participate in debates with his challengers.”[^
|(\[3\])](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Russian_pres
|idential_election#cite_note-:1-3) The extent of Putin's
|campaign was a biographical interview broadcast on State
|Television, and a series of interviews with journalists,
|paid for by [Boris Berezovsky](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/
|wiki/Boris_Berezovsky_(businessman)), an oligarch who had
|helped to build the Unity Party in the Yeltsin years.[^(\[
|3\])](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Russian_preside
|ntial_election#cite_note-:1-3) Putin's platform was best
|reflected by an “Open letter to Russian voters” that ran
|in national newspapers on February 25, 2000.[^(\[10\])](ht
|tps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Russian_presidential_el
|ection#cite_note-:3-10) Because he refused to participate
|in the debates, Putin's challengers had no venue in which
|to challenge his program, vague as it may have been.[^(\[1
|0\])](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Russian_preside
|ntial_election#cite_note-:3-10) A number of other
|candidates explained this as a refusal to clarify his
|position on various controversial issues. >Uncritical
|state television coverage of Putin's leadership of the
|conflict in Chechnya helped him to consolidate his
|popularity as Prime Minister, even as Yeltsin's popularity
|as president fell.[^(\[10\])](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w
|iki/2000_Russian_presidential_election#cite_note-:3-10) An
|alysis of television coverage of the 1999 Duma and 2000
|presidential elections found that “it was [ORT](https://en
|.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_One_Russia), and state
|television more generally, that had helped to create a
|party on short notice”[^(\[4\])](https://en.m.wikipedia.or
|g/wiki/2000_Russian_presidential_election#cite_note-:2-4)
|and that “its coverage… was strongly supportive of the
|party it had created.”[^(\[4\])](https://en.m.wikipedia.or
|g/wiki/2000_Russian_presidential_election#cite_note-:2-4)
|Further, TV channel ORT aggressively attacked credible
|opponents to Unity and Putin.[^(\[4\])](https://en.m.wikip
|edia.org/wiki/2000_Russian_presidential_election#cite_note
|-:2-4) Putin “received over a third of the coverage
|devoted to the candidates on all television channels, as
|much as Zyuganov (12%), Yavlinsky (11%) and Zhirinovsky
|(11%) put together.”[^(\[10\])](https://en.m.wikipedia.org
|/wiki/2000_Russian_presidential_election#cite_note-:3-10)
|He received more than a third of print media coverage, and
|was given outsize coverage even in opposition newspapers.[
|^(\[10\])](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Russian_pr
|esidential_election#cite_note-:3-10) A quote from that
|wiki. Seems like jackbuddy is twisting the narrative.
|u/Double-Frosting-9744 - 11 hours
|
|The power isn’t in the votes, it’s in the people who count the votes
|u/tav_stuff - 9 hours
|
|Putin has been democratically elected multiple times in elections
|that were internationally recognized as legitimate, and he still
|sees popular support in Russia today
|u/nerfbaboom - 6 hours
|
|Source?
|u/PrimarySalmon - 6 hours
|
|😆😅🤣 democratically elected
|u/ExplanationUsed - 12 hours
|
|The votes are made up, doesn't matter who your support, don't speak
|about things you don't know about
|u/Immediate_Variety325 - 12 hours
|
|Exactly, don’t speak about things you don’t know about..the vast
|majority of russians support this war and no mercy for them,and
|never will! and there is no need to whitewash anyone here, fuck
|them all. A nation of total slavery
|u/ExplanationUsed - 11 hours
|
|you're speaking like they have a choice, few years ago, the
|government imprisoned our governor because he succeeded in
|removing Putin's party(edinaya rossiya) people from the local
|Duma. This guy made the best he could for people who lived here,
|in Khabarovsk Krai(i think you can google it). After the
|imprisonment, people from my city started protesting but nobody
|cared.
|u/Theliraan - 10 hours
|
|It's not true. The truth is most don't care about it and are
|trying to ignore it. Was the Vietnam or Iraq war finished by
|pressure from the streets? Are USA citizens slaves? Don't
|think so. And yep: don't tell things that you know nothing about
|and don't be nazi.
|u/Rovcore001 - 11 hours
|
|Please grow up. It’s 2024, you cannot seriously be conflating the
|actions of governments with their people. You think every single
|person in a nation of over a hundred million people agrees with the
|invasion of Ukraine? You think elections mean much in an
|authoritarian country?
|u/demoman92 - 11 hours
|
|He's a symptom
|u/Legal-Butterscotch-2 - 16 hours
|
|Image 6 is so hard to believe 😞
|u/Njorls_Saga - 15 hours
|
|Mariupol. If you haven’t seen it, 20 Days in Mariupol is a searing
|film which won an Oscar for best documentary.
|https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/20-days-in-mariupol/
|u/IfYouRun - 15 hours
|
|I watched this documentary when it aired on TV here in the UK. It
|profoundly affected me. It shows the horrors of war in such an
|unfiltered way. Fuck Putin.
|u/Fettfjes - 14 hours
|
|Everyone should watch that. I have never cried so much from a
|documentary before or after. I actually had to wake my kids up to
|hug them after watching it..
|u/Njorls_Saga - 14 hours
|
|Fuck Putin indeed. As a parent, watching them work on those little
|kids was incredibly painful to watch. All for one man’s ego and
|greed.
|u/Hilll7 - 8 hours
|
|I caught just a few minutes of this documentary when it first aired
|on a foreign tv station but not the title. Found it pretty
|chilling. Thanks for the post.
|u/Njorls_Saga - 8 hours
|
|You’re welcome. Thank you for watching.
|u/iiowyn - 8 hours
|
|I just watched this because of your comment. Speechless about it,
|just wanted to let you know.
|u/Njorls_Saga - 8 hours
|
|Thank you for watching it. What Ukraine has done for the last
|three years is nothing short of amazing. Nobody in their right
|mind saw this happening and Trump is about to kneecap them.
|Ukraine gave up the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world in
|exchange for US security “assurances” and they’re going to lose a
|huge chunk of their country as a result. It’s absolutely
|heartbreaking.
|u/lilshortyy420 - 9 hours
|
|Thanks for posting this. Great doc. Within 5 minutes it really
|struck me.
|u/Njorls_Saga - 8 hours
|
|Thank you for watching it. The world needs to see this.
|u/Khiva - 3 hours
|
|Frontline doesn't miss.
|u/somedudeinlosangeles - 16 hours
|
|Americans are soooo fucking insulated. With the exception of some of our
|armed forces, we have no reference to war and how horrific it is.
|u/CPT_Shiner - 16 hours
|
|I'm an American veteran and I spent two years in a war zone (not
|nearly as intense as Ukraine though). It's a good thing we don't
|have firsthand experience with the horrors of war. Why would I want my
|children to go through that?
|u/Primedirector3 - 15 hours
|
|When a society forgets the horrors of war, they are doomed to repeat
|them. That’s why maintaining a free press, a funded education
|system, and recognizing an objective truth is so important. You
|don’t want new generations to learn these truths the hard way.
|u/Thadrach - 12 hours
|
|Thucydides? Is that you? :)
|u/bossmcsauce - 10 hours
|
|Well we’re doing away with all of that soon so.. outlook is grim
|u/louiloui152 - 14 hours
|
|We shouldn’t want anyone’s children to go through this. Ukraine’s
|children are which is why we should support them. If they succeed
|fewer of our children will have to in the future
|u/aih1977 - 16 hours
|
|It's important to consider that while exposing children to the grim
|realities of war may be unsettling, doing so can engender a profound
|understanding of the consequences of conflict. Without witnessing
|the brutality and devastation that accompanies warfare, it's
|challenging for them to develop informed perspectives against
|engagement in war. This awareness is crucial in fostering a societal
|stance that advocates for peaceful resolutions and vehemently
|opposes military interventions, regardless of the nation involved.
|Ultimately, comprehending the dire implications of war can empower
|individuals to advocate more vigorously for diplomatic solutions and
|conflict avoidance.
|u/ElectroMcGiddys - 15 hours
|
|Ukraine was invaded twice by no will of it's own, and it's
|sovereign decisions as a nation violated. Engendering children to
|the horrors of war doesn't mean shit when war is thrust upon you
|by no fault of your own further than you wanted the right to vote.
|u/magniankh - 15 hours
|
|Yes but America is different because it has so much power and is
|essentially the leader of NATO. If Americans better understood
|their consequences when lobbying for war, the entire world might
|be better for it.
|u/DregsRoyale - 12 hours
|
|Who the fuck is lobbying for war? Russia invaded Ukraine.
|Russia's buddy Iran attacked Israel with it's proxies. Why
|don't you throw your shade in their direction?
|u/magniankh - 8 hours
|
|My comment was an "in general" comment. Makes more sense in
|the context of the comment I was replying to. :-)
|u/Cheap-Phone-4283 - 14 hours
|
|It reads exactly like a chatGPT response. 8 year old account, 24
|karma, I comment karma. It’s not even a real human.
|u/alfa_omega - 12 hours
|
|Crect
|u/wanderer1999 - 15 hours
|
|Unfortunately, when a robber kick down your door and go after you
|and your family, you gotta fight back. Diplomacy is always the
|first line item. But when it fails, you need to defend yourself.
|u/aih1977 - 15 hours
|
|While there are harmful people in the world, we must not think
|of war as a solution. Often, talks and negotiations fail when
|dealing with those who choose violence instead of conversation.
|Conflicts are usually tied to political issues, like land
|disputes and national pride. To make real progress, we need to
|face the truth about war and show its terrible effects, rather
|than hiding them. Recognizing the harsh impacts of fighting can
|help more people understand and promote discussions to find
|peace. We should aim to seek better ways to achieve peace
|instead of continuing the cycle of violence. I’m not saying we
|shouldn't defend ourselves, but we should always look for
|smarter strategies to stop conflicts. Protests or other actions
|can get more people involved, which is one way to do it. I know
|this is hard, but we have to remember that conflicts can create
|more hatred. It’s a tough reality, and some may see it as a
|dream, but it’s important to make others aware of conflicts on
|both sides. We need to show that there are real people affected,
|and that understanding can help reduce hate.
|u/Thadrach - 12 hours
|
|Killing Putin could stop this particular war right quick.
|u/TDRWV - 10 hours
|
|Perhaps putin could fall out a window.
|u/williamh24076 - 9 hours
|
|But war is a solution, sometimes the only solution that
|actually works. Pease in our time.
|u/EmmEnnEff - 12 hours
|
|> Unfortunately, when a robber kick down your door and go after
|you and your family, you gotta fight back. We fight back by
|firebombing the robber's entire fucking neighbourhood, and then
|rolling in to occupy a town twenty miles away from where the
|robber lives. 90% of what the DOD does is not 'defense',
|'self-defense', or anything resembling it.
|u/wanderer1999 - 11 hours
|
|False equivalence. We are talking about Russian invaders
|here. If the robber kick down you door and go after your
|family, you shot him or kick him out of the house. If
|Russia invade Ukraine, you fight back and kick him out of the
|country. Wouldn't you do the same if somebody invaded your
|own country?
|u/EmmEnnEff - 11 hours
|
|Ukraine is fully justified in both defending itself from
|foreign aggression, and asking for help to defend itself.
|You know exactly what I'm talking about - and that is
|ministries of 'defense' that spend most of their effort
|*attacking* other people.
|u/Background-Eye-593 - 15 hours
|
|I think you can be understand and be well educated in the horrors
|of war( watching interviews, reading about it, other methods of
|staying informed) without being there first hand.
|u/Radawayok - 13 hours
|
|This feels like such a bot-generated response.
|u/aih1977 - 13 hours
|
|Yeah, I’m a robot with feelings, and you just hurt my feelings.
|u/alfa_omega - 12 hours
|
|Because it is 😂
|u/MineEnthusiast - 12 hours
|
|Yes and no. It's good to avoid war, but not at all costs. This
|same line of thinking is used by people to refuse helping Ukraine
|and cutting a deal with putin.
|u/Open-Cream-9327 - 13 hours
|
|Cool so let's send kids to war then
|u/Wayss37 - 15 hours
|
|Noone is talking about a "firsthand experience" but just knowledge
|in general. If you don't have that knowledge you get people who
|glorify dictators and promote the occupation of foreign lands
|u/Deep-Neck - 13 hours
|
|Americans lack a seriousness that our level of emotional conviction
|sort of requires. The kind of seriousness real existential threats
|provide. Although you're right it's a good thing. It just
|comes at a cost. Know-nothings up in arms, oblivious to the reality
|of the consequences.
|u/alfa_omega - 12 hours
|
|As long as the gas is cheap and the burgers and bud light are
|flowing fuck our obligations right?
|u/EmmEnnEff - 12 hours
|
|> Why would I want my children to go through that? Maybe they'd
|think twice before voting for someone who wants to inflict it on
|other people *for no good fucking reason*. (But who am I kidding,
|of course they wouldn't.)
|u/letsridetheworld - 9 hours
|
|How do you think wars started in the first place? Because when we
|haven’t gone thru it, learned from it then we’re prone to get one.
|It’s just a matter of time.
|u/chunkychapstick - 9 hours
|
|Why did you put other people's children through it?
|u/Swipsi - 15 hours
|
|Its a dilemma. We dont want people to experience war, but the flipside
|of that is that people lose their reference to it. A constellation
|that in human history usually ends in a vicious cycle of forgetting-
|repeating-realising-forgetting.
|u/Thadrach - 12 hours
|
|Couple folks I served with back in the day were in Mogadishu for the
|Blackhawk Down clusterf*ck. They said the fighting wasn't the bad
|part...the bad part was how shitty daily life was for the locals :/
|u/No-Mirror2343 - 13 hours
|
|- Sees a Reddit post about the Ukraine war - Insults Americans ???
|u/EmmEnnEff - 12 hours
|
|*checks notes* I mean, we did engage in at spectacularly pointless
|war of aggression that killed half a million people not too long
|ago, and utterly ruined two countries. And *we have learned nothing
|from it*. We haven't taken responsibility. We haven't acknowledged
|our collective guilt. We haven't held anyone responsible. We can't
|even talk about it, without shitbirds shouting us down. It's one
|thing to make mistakes that ruin the lives of other people. It's
|another to *keep repeating those mistakes*.
|u/Khiva - 3 hours
|
|Also elected a president who threatens to choke Ukraine off from
|aid.
|u/somedudeinlosangeles - 11 hours
|
|Hi. I am an American. I am insulated. I have no reference to war. I
|have no reference to missiles coming down on my city / town. I have
|no reference to the smell of war. To the rotting bodies of war. To
|the helplessness one must feel when in the middle of a war. My
|post was an accurate one. Facts don’t care about your feelings. I
|posted to convey the gratitude and luck I feel that I have never
|experienced war. I posted to remind myself that when someone posts
|in my city’s subreddit to complain about police helicopters that fly
|around for 1/2 an hour to maintain a modicum of perspective.
|u/DirtySperrys - 13 hours
|
|Ez karma lol
|u/Tina_ComeGetSomeHam - 8 hours
|
|Oh then I have good news for you we're about to gain a lot of fucking
|perspective real soon.
|u/uselessworthless4evr - 1 hour
|
|i mean our tax dollars in the billions go to fund a "war" that has
|lasted since 1947 and the majority of americans on reddit absolutely
|dont care about and somehow support the horrifying bloodshed unless
|its white ukrainians 🫣
|u/a_man_has_a_name - 15 hours
|
|And Trump wants to make peace with the guy who did this, and reward him
|with 1/5 th of Ukraine's land. And his followers will say "make peace
|not war" like it's Ukraine's fault.
|u/Tobipig - 10 hours
|
|Remember a huge part of the US supported isolationalism, going even as
|far as to have pro hitler rallies. One of the main talking points was
|keep peace by not intervening. Let him get the Sudetenland and he will
|stop and everything will be fine. Those who forget history are doomed
|to repeat it.
|u/tltltltltltltl - 9 hours
|
|Those who remember history are doomed to watch it happen all over
|again
|u/TDRWV - 10 hours
|
|And that explains exactly who trump really is.
|u/ExactPlate2125 - 16 hours
|
|Ukraine just want to be free from enslave of russia. They want freedom.
|u/56000hp - 11 hours
|
|And Taiwan just want to be free from invasion and enslavement from
|China . Hopefully freedom for all democracies!!
|u/ExplanationUsed - 12 hours
|
|fr??
|u/ashrasmun - 11 hours
|
|shocking innit?
|u/persimmon40 - 15 hours
|
|It'll be another 1000 days. Don't let anyone saying that the war will be
|over soon fool you. Ukraine is not ceding territories, Russia is not
|retreating. Until there is an equilibrium of those points, the war will
|go on regardless of who is ruling Russia. They made their position very
|clear.
|u/jahkut - 8 hours
|
|Thanks for your valuable insight, dear redditor
|u/ElderberryPoet - 12 hours
|
|Russia is a terrorist state.
|u/MisterP53 - 12 hours
|
|The kid in the train hit me. Just had a son a few weeks back. I cannot
|imagine what it would feel like sending my kid and wife away like that.
|u/wpgjetsfucktheleafs - 8 hours
|
|As a father to a child a similar age to the kid in the photo, I
|couldn't even imagine this feeling. You have to assume the mom and
|child are fleeing while the dad is staying back to fight. In that
|photo, both parents are thinking it will be the last time the dad sees
|their child. Gut-wrenching.
|u/MorkSal - 7 hours
|
|Yup, got me right in the feels. Have a three and 1.5 year old.
|Couldn't imagine having to do that.
|u/MisterP53 - 2 hours
|
|Exactly. Jesus.. and the strength they have to pull to comfort the
|child and show that everything is OK.
|u/tarl06 - 12 hours
|
|Putin’s head needs to be on a spike
|u/MrMeowPantz - 11 hours
|
|I’ve spent the last year volunteering for a Ukrainian based
|organization. The stories hit hard and the pictures and videos I get
|make it hit harder. Americans have no idea what it means to fight for
|their home. I remember 9/11. I was 16 and I can tell you exactly where
|I was. We launched two wars over it but we were not fighting for our
|home. We were not invaded like these people have been. Our hospitals
|have not been bombed, our women have not been raped and our children
|have not died in the streets. We have no idea how good we have it.
|u/Sc_e1 - 13 hours
|
|\*russian terrorist attack
|u/Bicentennial_Douche - 14 hours
|
|I hope for the day when Russia and everything they represent is nothing
|but a distant memory relegated to history books.
|u/Thadrach - 12 hours
|
|Eh, let's save The Hermitage. It's pretty cool, and has nice gardens.
|u/Trifula - 11 hours
|
|That second picture hit me hard. That young girl has so many more years
|to live and because of an egomaniac idiot she will spend it without her
|legs. Damn...
|u/FeliniTheCat - 12 hours
|
|Those of you who voted for Trump, also voted for Putin. Fuck you.
|u/Complex-Ad-9151 - 2 hours
|
|What is better to finance a senseless war where people continue to die
|or to end the deaths? All you need is an escalation of the war and the
|victory of Ukraine, but you don't care about people.
|u/serand62 - 14 hours
|
|Fuck Putin and his sympathizers! Praying for justice for these people!
|u/lift0ffbaby - 13 hours
|
|Trump and his voters sympathize
|u/Kurti00 - 12 hours
|
|I cant even imagine the horrors this people went through. Mankind
|should be ashamed that we're not able to stop people from doing this to
|eachother.
|u/Inevitable-Yard-4188 - 16 hours
|
|Yeah, but of course fuck Ukraine for wanting weapons.
|u/Grej79 - 14 hours
|
|Its the media's fault. They make it out that ukraine just wants money
|and that the money wasn't from the defense budget. But in reality it's
|mostly just sending old equipment and buying new things for NATO
|countries so they can send their older Things to Ukraine. For the west
|defense industry I think it's good that our equipment can see some
|action in the terrain they where designed for so that we see how it
|would Fair. And improve it for a all out war with Russia.
|u/Thadrach - 12 hours
|
|Weapons we would have to pay to dispose of.
|u/Tobipig - 10 hours
|
|They do have a legitimate claim for Nuclear weapons. They have them up
|for security guarantees by France Russia England and the US. Since all
|these countries clearly violated the contract, they are allowed to
|have nuclear weapons.
|u/derpandderpette - 15 hours
|
|Trump and his team better not fuck this up. The whole free world was
|counting on you to do the right thing American and now the Ukrainian’s
|will pay for your decisions. Well done.
|u/Njorls_Saga - 15 hours
|
|
|u/Fastenbauer - 13 hours
|
|You are counting on Trump to do the right thing?
|
|u/wanderer1999 - 15 hours
|
|The silver lining is that as terrible as his cabinet is, the Senate
|GOP and the Secretary of State nomination, Marco Rubio supports
|Ukraine. Let's see where this lead.
|u/EdwardOfGreene - 15 hours
|
|Can't get a funding bill without the Presidents signature. A veto
|could be overridden, but that is unlikely. I am truly worried!
|(And mad at my fellow Americans who put us here).
|u/wanderer1999 - 14 hours
|
|Truly a colossally wrong decision. The people have made their
|choice, but the people is wrong here. These things are not
|mutually exclusive. But we will fight. We will speak out because
|not speaking out this time would be even more wrong.
|u/uryuishida - 14 hours
|
|What if aid is marked as a loan, do they need his signature then?
|Maybe if they wrap aid with Taiwan and israeli aid, could the
|senate pass it?
|u/EdwardOfGreene - 14 hours
|
|The Senate can pass Ukraine aid straight up. Getting Trump to
|sign it is the problem.
|u/wanderer1999 - 13 hours
|
|True. But if he doesn't sign the bill, Ukraine would lose
|under his watch. It would be his failure to not support them.
|I think the issue is far more complicated than he imagined.
|Also I think Marco Rubio will push him to sign the bill.
|u/TDRWV - 10 hours
|
|Marco Rubio can anyone have any faith in him after first opposing
|trump in 2016 then licking his boots? Correct answer, no.
|u/em11488 - 9 hours
|
|You should hear Rubio’s latest dick sucking quote of saying America
|is funding a stalemate war and wants to end it - only chance of that
|is losing Ukrainian land.
|u/Panthera_leo22 - 6 hours
|
|Marco Rubio supports a negotiated settlement in Ukraine
|u/Thadrach - 12 hours
|
|Team Trump will absolutely fuck this up. Best case, Biden manages to
|kick more aid out the door between now and inauguration.
|u/fvkinglesbi - 2 hours
|
|The fact that you're not being sarcastic is wild. Trump literally
|supports Putin.
|u/Content_Routine_1941 - 15 hours
|
|He won't be able to negotiate. According to the Constitution of
|Russia, the Crimean Republic, the Donetsk Republic, the Luhansk
|Republic, the Kherson region and the Zaporozhye region are part of
|Russia within their full borders. So either Trump will give these 5
|regions to Russia, or Russia will send him to hell because it is
|contrary to the constitution. And the most important thing. He must
|not only agree to give up these 5 subjects, but also recognize them
|for Russia. No matter how much Trump wants to end the war, he will not
|be able to make such concessions, and Russia will not agree to
|anything less. So there are still years of war ahead.
|u/AdAdministrative6356 - 14 hours
|
|As Russia already proved, constitution is not something they take
|seriously
|u/Sganarellevalet - 13 hours
|
|Trump cannot give shit to Russia because he isn't the president of
|Ukraine, at worst he can stop supporting Ukraine wich will not stop
|the figthing.
|u/Fun_Chance7122 - 12 hours
|
|FUCK russia!
|u/Puzzled_Ad_3576 - 11 hours
|
|War is hell.
|u/yardlad - 11 hours
|
|Putin is a war criminal.
|u/Chief_Mac-A-Hoe - 15 hours
|
|#6 is dark as it gets
|u/Njorls_Saga - 15 hours
|
|https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/20-days-in-mariupol/
|No, it’s much darker. That’s just the tip of the iceberg.
|u/Jackwoi - 14 hours
|
|If you really want to see how horrific war is. Look at the in /r
|combatfootage
|u/plongeronimo - 13 hours
|
|Combat isn't even the most horrific thing about war.
|u/Alwaysshops2much - 12 hours
|
|I’m so sad for Ukraine and the fact that all US aid will be gone after
|January.
|u/DaemonCRO - 15 hours
|
|Post some u/False-God stuff for added horror.
|u/Wooden-Attempt6227 - 15 hours
|
|This really puts me down. Too sad! I absolutely cannot understand, how
|countries still deal with russia and helping to continue this damn war!
|Shitheads!
|u/LongIsland1995 - 11 hours
|
|Fuck Russia and shame on the West for not doing more to stop them
|u/flyingpeter28 - 15 hours
|
|Deam, already 3 years
|u/ViscountVajayjay - 13 hours
|
|This might be a stupid question but I’m wondering what life is like for
|the average Ukrainian. Are kids going to school? Non soldiers working?
|Etc. I imagine reporters and medical professionals are overworked but
|what’s happening for everyone else?
|u/Thadrach - 11 hours
|
|Still some semblance of normal l understand. So far Zelensky has kept
|the youngest men from the draft, to try to preserve more of his
|nation's future, but he likely can't keep that up...they need
|manpower. Or a couple million drones.
|u/ViscountVajayjay - 11 hours
|
|Oh I see. That makes sense. Thanks for your reply!
|u/NeighborhoodFit4555 - 13 hours
|
|Ukraine is very large, so it very much depends on what area we’re
|talking about. The occupied areas are like hell on earth, whatever is
|closer to the west - people have ok lives (not considering the air
|raids and occasional bombings). And anywhere in between that - it’s
|scary.
|u/ViscountVajayjay - 11 hours
|
|Thank you for taking the time to respond. I appreciate your help.
|u/fvkinglesbi - 2 hours
|
|Heavily depends on a region. In some regions, yes, simultaneously with
|the air alerts and bombings. In others, civilian life is partially or
|fully stopped.
|u/xsandrov - 1 hour
|
|I’m Ukrainian, you can ask me the things you’re interested in PMs
|u/The14thWarrior - 13 hours
|
|Jesus that 7th photo is phenomenal. I got chills.
|u/Infinite-Storage-638 - 12 hours
|
|Lest we forget.
|u/sambuchedemortadela - 11 hours
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|Fuck war
|u/LimpConversation642 - 9 hours
|
|Most of these are from the first 2-3 monts of the war — Bucha, Mariupol,
|Kharkiv by the way, 'fun' fact — google maps were updated about that
|time so you can still see the burnt ground, tanks and even helicopters
|on the ground in Irpin and Hostomel [Scroll west from here](https://www
|.google.com/maps/place/%D0%86%D1%80%D0%BF%D1%96%D0%BD%D1%8C,+%D0%9A%D0%B
|8%D1%97%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0+%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%
|82%D1%8C/@50.5531179,30.2832994,145m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x472b3216e
|94dd5db:0x5ce36944e7698f34!8m2!3d50.51875!4d30.239783!16zL20vMDMxNjU4?en
|try=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTExMy4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D) [Epicentr, a home
|depot - type of a store](https://www.google.com/maps/place/%D0%86%D1%80%
|D0%BF%D1%96%D0%BD%D1%8C,+%D0%9A%D0%B8%D1%97%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B
|0+%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C/@50.5493942,30.1948276,487m
|/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x472b3216e94dd5db:0x5ce36944e7698f34!8m2!3d50.
|51875!4d30.239783!16zL20vMDMxNjU4?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTExMy4xIKXMDSo
|JLDEwMjExMjMzSAFQAw%3D%3D) still burning. I believe [this](https://www.
|google.com/maps/place/%D0%86%D1%80%D0%BF%D1%96%D0%BD%D1%8C,+%D0%9A%D0%B8
|%D1%97%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0+%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%8
|2%D1%8C/@50.5433408,30.2266806,266m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x472b3216e9
|4dd5db:0x5ce36944e7698f34!8m2!3d50.51875!4d30.239783!16zL20vMDMxNjU4?ent
|ry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTExMy4xIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExMjMzSAFQAw%3D%3D) is the
|iconic place with the trashed BTRs from the fifth picture. And this is
|the [Hostomel Airfield](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Міжнародний+ае
|ропорт+"АНТОНОВ"/@50.5903862,30.2077966,177m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x4
|72b2fc4c0e43f09:0xf0732526eacb3413!8m2!3d50.5910657!4d30.2073829!16zL20v
|MDk0cmNt?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTExMy4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D) with
|destroyed helis, I think you can find some of the and the planes in the
|neighboring fields.
|u/RaucheSchonInSpanien - 16 hours
|
|Slava Ucraina ! Be strong
|u/aih1977 - 15 hours
|
|The idea that hiding the horrors of war will somehow make them go away
|is seriously off-base. It's really important to face the facts about
|conflict so we can raise awareness and push for action against violence.
|Keeping people in the dark only spreads ignorance and stops meaningful
|conversations about these issues. While it's totally understandable to
|want to shield vulnerable people, especially kids, from graphic images,
|we also need to be open about what's happening. Figuring out where a
|conflict starts can be really complicated, and without solid
|information, it's tough to get a full picture of any war. It's easy to
|point fingers, but we need to be careful; jumping to conclusions based
|on biased stories can cloud the truth. Reporting on situations,
|especially like the one between Ukraine and its opponents, often gives a
|narrow view. This kind of coverage can oversimplify complex global
|issues and block a deeper understanding of what’s really going on. So,
|taking a critical look at information from all sides is key to
|understanding the root causes of conflicts and why they escalate.
|u/ApprehensiveStark25 - 15 hours
|
|How tragic. F Putin. Slava Ukraine.
|u/Jobfreeman - 12 hours
|
|It this really because they want to join NATO so badly?? Or Russia just
|being imperialist.
|u/Snickims - 10 hours
|
|They want to join NATO so badly because they know Russia is so
|imperalist.
|u/sapiens_to_mars - 14 hours
|
|One man is responsible for this horror - Putin. Hope he will be jailed
|before he dies.
|u/Thadrach - 11 hours
|
|Ironically, he's essentially put himself in jail. Man sits at a table
|that big? He has no friends...not ones he can trust, at least.
|u/shouldazagged - 15 hours
|
|Fuck. That’s depressing
|u/WoodmanOP - 12 hours
|
|Fuck putin
|u/samaagfg - 12 hours
|
|So heartbreaking
|u/YEM207 - 12 hours
|
|the pics are powerful. and very high quality. even though the subject
|matter is awful
|u/SidneyKreutzfeldt - 11 hours
|
|And now the Americans are going to stop the support to Ukraine :' -(
|u/Gloriathewitch - 11 hours
|
|i'm deeply saddened by the fact we've been watching this go on for 1000
|days..
|u/Chemicalcube325 - 11 hours
|
|This has to end.
|u/RogueTexan7 - 11 hours
|
|Good reminder what people are still going through over there. I think
|it’s easy for us in the West to forget some times.
|u/Squiggles87 - 10 hours
|
|What's the likelihood of Ukraine winning back all their territory and
|being able to defend it without decades of financial aid from the West?
|Genuine question - I'm not closing this closely. What's the path for a
|victory? With all the respect in the world there will come a tipping
|point when supporting the war effort becomes far less popular
|politically than the initial phase.
|u/Dergan_1 - 10 hours
|
|SLAVA UKRAINI !
|u/Oldestswinger - 10 hours
|
|In awe of Ukraine for fighting back so bravely
|u/xAnm74 - 10 hours
|
|Slide 4 hits me so hard. I was 5 days old when the war in Bosnia started
|and my mom and I left while my dad stayed behind to defend the country.
|I can't even imagine how heavy that must've been for both my parents.
|Fuck wars. No one can convince me they're not absolutely pointless when
|photos like this exist.
|u/DreamOfAzathoth - 5 hours
|
|Very few of history’s wars were worthwhile but I’d say a couple were.
|From a British perspective, we’re acutely aware of the harm caused by
|our repeated desire to avoid conflict in the build-up to WW2
|u/Evening-Rutabaga2106 - 9 hours
|
|I know a Ukrainian girl who moved to the US after her boyfriend died
|fighting in the war. Shit is crazy
|u/DoomedKiblets - 9 hours
|
|Fuck War. Fuck Russia. Fuck Putin.
|u/pincheporky - 8 hours
|
|And here I was complaining about working paycheck to paycheck while
|sitting on the toilet…. Fuck
|u/Responsible_Meal - 7 hours
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|Putin is one evil son of a bitch.
|u/hestorzg - 3 hours
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|I hate Putin with all my heart!
|u/ScrappyShua - 3 hours
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|Man, fuck, Putin and any other psychopathic dictator
|u/waqkant - 2 hours
|
|Amazing the general sympathy for Ukrainians vs Palestinians. Really
|underscores the hypocrisy
|u/Andy5416 - 15 hours
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|Powerful photographs. Slava Ukraini.
|u/Sct_Brn_MVP - 12 hours
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|Fuck Vladimir Putin, why aren’t we helping more
|u/Lazzen - 15 hours
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|And yet left winger, third worlders and "anti imperialists" meet along
|conservatives to support Ukraine dying
|u/arkam_uzumaki - 15 hours
|
|Wars are cruel!
|u/gamedreamer21 - 11 hours
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|Wars are pointless!
|u/MadRockthethird - 14 hours
|
|Isn't the Russian economy really in the shitter? How do they expect to
|fix everything they've destroyed if they actually win? Do they think the
|Ukrainians are going to pay for it or for that matter even accept them
|as their leaders if they win? Go Ukraine your will to succeed is
|inspiring and I hope Russia goes bankrupt or you guys take Russia over!
|u/Thadrach - 11 hours
|
|Well...yes and no. They basically stole billions worth of Western
|corporate property like airlines when the sanctions hit, so that
|cushioned them a bit. China and India continue to trade with
|them...although bending them over on oil prices. And, although I hate
|to say it, their central banker is quite competent; she's been making
|bricks out of straw. Think Albert Speer in a skirt. Further, they're
|basically fighting a low-tech war; think WW1 artillery + infantry
|waves, with cheap drones and some high-tech planes and missiles
|layered on top. Set your economy to "wartime", don't gaf about your
|soldiers or any civilians except those in Moscow and St Petersburg,
|and you can sustain operations for years... unfortunately.
|u/Tobipig - 10 hours
|
|You can compare Russia to Germany in ww1 the war economy is
|basically at its maximum output right now with nearly 0% unemployed
|rate. Even the Russian central bank agrees that if the Russian
|government doesn’t reduce war spending and continue the war for
|another 2 years russia would not be able to function as a regional
|power for the next 30 years. Perun made a great video about the
|Russia and Ukrainian war economy.
|u/Jackbuddy78 - 9 hours
|
|Germany in WWl had all their ports blockaded by Britain from
|1914-1919. The only recognized country that has a blockade rn is
|North Korea.
|u/Consistent-Metal9427 - 9 hours
|
|Perun does excellent analysis. Back then they blockaded the ports
|and now they use sanctions and frozen assets to hurt the russian
|economy.
|u/mm_farahat - 14 hours
|
|fuck war
|u/StandardImpact6458 - 14 hours
|
|How can a civilized society condone this? 🤨
|u/MineEnthusiast - 11 hours
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|They're not. Give me one civilized society that condones this...
|u/luffypuffy1 - 11 hours
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|Same thing is happening in another….nvm
|u/TonberryHS - 13 hours
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|You need to tag this as NSFW on account of the corpses.
|u/Recks90 - 13 hours
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|it's always been the same, maybe worst. we just got better at taking
|symbolic photographs
|u/Fun_Chance7122 - 12 hours
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|Hey Tramp time to nuke fucking Moscow!
|u/VarietyLeft6964 - 11 hours
|
|I feel so sorry for the people who died, for the family who lost their
|loved one, for the wifes who lost their husbands. All I can say too many
|victims died of a poor leader decisions to sacrifice his own country for
|his own benefit. Such a evil man, hopefully he will get what he deserves
|pretty soon!
|u/asoernipal - 10 hours
|
|Anyone interested in helping Ukraine defend itself for however many days
|it takes to repel the Russian invasion, please consider donating to
|[UNITED24](https://u24.gov.ua/) or the vetted charities on r/ukraine I
|donate to [help99](https://www.help99.co/) an Estonian registered non-
|profit that directly supplies equipment to Ukrainian units. Once a
|month, they drive a convoy with drones, equipment, and casevac vehicles
|outfitted with drone jammers. The direct visibility and crowdfunding-
|centric approach make them a preferred option for me personally.
|Together, we can make a difference!
|u/MrShatanas - 15 hours
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|fucking sad...
|u/markhewitt1978 - 14 hours
|
|For every single one of those 1,000 days there was nothing inevitable
|about it. Putin had 1,000 occasions to choose to stop and withdraw.
|1,000 times he has chosen to continue.
|u/SacluxGemini - 13 hours
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|And 80 million Americans chose to help him.
|u/Sundabar - 14 hours
|
|The first picture looks so much like it came from a videogame. Next ones
|made my heart drop.
|u/Bobracher - 14 hours
|
|We are the same species and yet we are so divided. Although to be fair
|it is the minority amongst us that ruins it for everyone else. I
|cannot even imagine what it must be like to live in a war zone. But by
|god would I love to kill the people who created it in the first place.
|u/Chowlucci - 14 hours
|
|Sacrificing the peace the many , for the greed of Power a very selfish
|few
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|u/Current_Finding_4066 - 12 hours
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|Looking at this photos made me sad. So many people lost everything. So
|much destruction. It is sad that human history is a history of wars.
|u/Beedle_High-Hill - 12 hours
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|Слава україні
|u/LostADV - 11 hours
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|Powerfully sad pictures.
|u/BatOk2014 - 11 hours
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|It's devastating
|u/Emperor_Sphynx - 10 hours
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|Why in the pic of them all under the bridge and one dude is smiling. And
|none look worried whatsoever
|u/sublurkerrr - 10 hours
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|The world hasn't done enough to stop Russia's war of aggression against
|Ukraine. It's fucked.
|u/BisonST - 10 hours
|
|Want to do something? Donate to Ukraine's official charity:
|https://u24.gov.ua/
|u/wallyworld4 - 10 hours
|
|😢
|u/Ilikenuttelaverymuch - 10 hours
|
|thankyou america
|u/blinktrade - 10 hours
|
|Where is the pic of the dead girl on the park bench? That one was
|fucked.
|u/ElementK2 - 10 hours
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|Heart fucking breaking
|u/Autistic_GoofBall - 10 hours
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|I'll send this to anyone that says we're funding Ukraine too much.
|u/Strict_Slide_4961 - 10 hours
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|Bro :(
|u/chilll_vibe - 9 hours
|
|Imagine what they could do if he helped them to the extent they needed.
|But no guys, actually Israel are the ones we should be helping.
|Obviously.
|u/LittleFoot5632 - 9 hours
|
|and people believe in a God.
|u/ramen_man07 - 9 hours
|
|Who took these photos?
|u/nonbinarymilitarycar - 9 hours
|
|Damn, time flies.. I feel like I left yesterday and its been almost 3
|years by now. Me and my wife visited Ukraine recently again, saddest
|part was realizing its not our home anymore and wont be for next 10+
|years at least
|u/al3x_mp4 - 9 hours
|
|These photos are fucking amazing man.
|u/NoEconomics9982 - 9 hours
|
|I hate that these pictures will only be visible to the ones searching
|for them. Where are the billboards, the TV news showing the graphic
|brutality of this? Of course it's easy saying Putin isn't as bad if all
|you watch in life is just Fox News (or an equivalent).
|u/Maleficent-Coyote-95 - 9 hours
|
|It will be over soon. Trump will help Putin and Ukraine will be no more
|😢
|u/R1Law - 9 hours
|
|We do not see enough about the reality of war. The needless loss,
|destruction, and anguish. Will we ever evolve beyond the madness of
|power hungry narcissist leaders who have no regards for others? Ukraine,
|my heart breaks for you and your people. I can only hope we continue to
|support you, and that NATO rallies to your side if our leaders fail.
|u/Koolady101 - 8 hours
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|Heartbreaking!
|u/confuzedas - 8 hours
|
|I'm in Canada, I recently met a Ukrainian refuge in a small social
|setting. After little talking about how she and her family were doing,
|I asked her if she would ever go back. She just said, "no, there is
|nothing left". Even if Putin gives up, goes home, the entire country is
|flattened. Gone. Barely livable. And the peace keepers of the world
|just let it happen.
|u/frokta - 8 hours
|
|Fuck Putin.
|u/BaldingThor - 8 hours
|
|Bloody hell, it’s been 1000 days already? I remember back when it
|startes I was at work on my break, tuned the TV to the ABC news and saw
|that those maniac Russians had actually invaded…. hoping it would be a
|quick victory for Ukraine.
|u/Tala_Nebail - 22 minutes
|
|17 of november is 998th day, if we count from full scale invasion
|which started 24 february 2022. But war started 20 february 2014.
|u/Adept_Board_8785 - 8 hours
|
|I hope everyone is safe.
|u/DelyanKovachev - 8 hours
|
|I want to hear the Russians here
|u/Similar_Conclusion52 - 8 hours
|
|I am so tired of this war. Literally want to shoot brains off my head.
|It’s never ending struggle between us and russia. It was before , it
|will be in future. Life sucks
|u/GetzlafMyLawn - 7 hours
|
|Living in North America breaks my heart. I don't remember the last time
|we had up to date footage or news of this war. I feel so ashamed I need
|to be reminded
|u/42tooth_sprocket - 7 hours
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|these are phenomenal
|u/ravrocker - 7 hours
|
|All courtesy of Trump’s benefactor.
|u/Inside_Cod7111 - 6 hours
|
|Keep it up, Ucrane kick there ass
|u/Fluffy_Feeling_9326 - 6 hours
|
|Intense
|u/waxwayne - 5 hours
|
|Kinda puts the phrase “elections have consequences” in stark detail. So
|many lives could lost at the swipe of a pen.
|u/Prestigious_Tree4223 - 5 hours
|
|Yep... still break out into a cold sweat when I hear drone
|motors/propellers. Putin will burn for this. The horrors experienced by
|the innocent civilians and the young men sent to die are unthinkable.
|u/Derelicte_by_Mugatu - 5 hours
|
|The product of war
|u/MyS0ul4AGoat - 5 hours
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|Good thing trump is going to help Ukraine……
|u/Goat_Status_5000 - 5 hours
|
|How tragic and sad.
|u/Dry-Marketing-6798 - 4 hours
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|Heartbreaking
|u/Ihavenoideatall - 3 hours
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|Hope that it will ends soon. Too long it had been dragged out.
|u/PrisGoose - 2 hours
|
|I hope they will skin that Putin fuck alive
|u/Available_Sundae_924 - 2 hours
|
|"3 day special operation".
|u/hazjosh1 - 2 hours
|
| With that mass grave is that how it’s always gona be or do they put
|some kind of identity tag on the descended so they can exhume them later
|for private burials?
|u/xXBadNutXx - 1 hour
|
|Those Photos are Powerful.
|u/ToxinPotato - 1 hour
|
|Now do Gaza
|u/True_Way4462 - 1 hour
|
|As BJ said in Old Blood: "war is like disease"
|u/True_Way4462 - 1 hour
|
|Even I as Ukrainian admit that it's much a lot better to divide Ukraine
|to stop that war
|u/matthewrodier - 1 hour
|
|Who are the photographers? I ask because people risked their lives for
|these photographs.
|u/patrinoo - 27 minutes
|
|It’s only fair for Russia to experience the same.
|u/TheAmericanDoge - 25 minutes
|
|Slava Ukraini, Slava heroyam. Stay strong, Ukraine, 1000 days done and
|you're still spitting in the face of Putin. Do what the rest of the
|world is too scared to do.
|u/TeeDod- - 14 hours
|
|Trump is buddies with Putin. Enough said. 😢
|u/dirk_jammer - 11 minutes
|
|Yes, and we are lucky he is as it could end this war.
|u/dcy123 - 14 hours
|
|Such awful shit, just for some orange jackass to come in and make any of
|that suffering mean nothing.
|u/Hi_buddy-waz_sup - 10 hours
|
|Now show Gaza
|u/DreamOfAzathoth - 5 hours
|
|I literally saw a Gaza post like this yesterday. Take a break
|u/Intelligent_Ear_4655 - 4 hours
|
|Next the Palestine one
|u/ElectroMcGiddys - 15 hours
|
|Give Ukraine nukes.
|u/Tobipig - 10 hours
|
|Ukraine has a legitimate claim to nuclear weapons. They gave them up
|for security guarantees by France in russia and the US. As we can see
|all of them broke that contract.
|u/ExplanationUsed - 12 hours
|
|And start a nuclear war which which will end US, the whole Europe and
|obviously Russia
|u/Thadrach - 11 hours
|
|We might get there without giving Ukraine nukes...
|u/ElectroMcGiddys - 11 hours
|
|Brain dead take. Other adversary countries have nukes and they don't
|nuke each other. Give Ukraine nukes and russia is just going to
|start nuking everyone? If North Korea can have nukes and hasn't
|nuked anyone, Ukraine should get nukes too. Only makes sense. Word
|on the street is Ukraine is close to building them, themselves.
|Might as well give them to Ukraine anyways.
|u/mkhi123 - 7 hours
|
|Like the famous Pakistan/ India nuclear exchange 🥴
|u/nifer317 - 13 hours
|
|💔😭
|u/Iguessireadit - 12 hours
|
|So all of this is because of 1 single man? Fuck Putin!
|u/Spartan1a3 - 7 hours
|
|Now show the genocide in Gaza too I’m trying to see some
|u/Ginux - 7 hours
|
|Ukraine must win
|u/suckmyballzredit69 - 6 hours
|
|These are nothing compared to what I have seen. Brutal terrorism and
|torture. Screw them and those that support them.
|u/DrunkenMonks - 6 hours
|
|1000 days of ~~War~~ Genocide.
|u/ThatMindOfMe - 3 hours
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|The communists must be stopped
|u/ComprehensivePin6097 - 15 hours
|
|Coming soon to your neighborhood.
|u/The_Triagnaloid - 14 hours
|
|I’m confused as to why we don’t just give them nukes? That would end
|the war immediately. The only reason Ukraine doesn’t have nukes is
|because they signed a treaty with Russia. Russia broke that treaty.
|Give Ukraine nukes. They will never have to use them. Putin would
|withdraw immediately and pay for Ukraine to be rebuilt.
|u/DreamOfAzathoth - 5 hours
|
|Incredibly dangerous gamble
|u/jahkut - 8 hours
|
|Someday Slavic people will realize that all this shit was imposed by an
|outside force and should be stopped. That day is yet to come though.
|u/7-N-39 - 4 hours
|
|An outside force woke up Putin in the middle of the night, gave him a
|paper with declaration of war and forced to read it on camera. Also an
|outside force makes 30k russians sign military contract every month.
|u/MapKind4170 - 15 hours
|
|so scary
|u/PraetorianSleuth - 7 hours
|
|Only if the joker actor had decided not to join NATO.
|u/The_Ghost_9960 - 13 hours
|
|It's funny how I never see these types of post about Gaza in reddit,
|just Ukraine. Really shows the hypocrisy Edit: All the dumbos
|downvoting, keep doing it. Proves my point even more
|u/Snickims - 10 hours
|
|What??????? The front page of reddit has not gone a single week
|without stories like this, from gaza, or the west bank, or lebenon
|since the October attacks. And before you said the that's not true
|for the "mainstream news", they actually seem to be talking about it
|more, with a new update on the conflict either every day, or every
|second day. This is the first post about Ukraine, that was not just
|a statement by zelensky or about putin, to reach the front page in
|weeks. All wile the war in Ukraine is both larger, and has lasted
|for longer.
|u/Tobipig - 10 hours
|
|Gaza is a lot harder to access.
|u/Unlikely-Complex3737 - 9 hours
|
|Ah yes, I didn't see it so it didn't happen..
|u/The_Ghost_9960 - 9 hours
|
|Why? When did you last see a post about gaza in this subreddit or
|any other popular subreddit? There maybe some, but they get
|downvoted or people don’t care at all.
|u/Comfortable-Let-8365 - 13 hours
|
|Now show the war in Gaza
|u/NeighborhoodFit4555 - 13 hours
|
|Go and look up Gaza pictures. This is a post about Ukraine. Stop
|bringing up gaza. All wars are horrible.
|u/Comfortable-Let-8365 - 13 hours
|
|If you post an identical photo gallery showing the genocide
|happening in Gaza right now you’ll be downvoted into oblivion.
|Reddit is a propaganda machine and none of this is organic
|u/Thadrach - 11 hours
|
|? ? There are pro-Palestinian subs here. I've been banned from
|one, and, ironically, from a pro-Israel one...for posting the same
|thing :)
|u/NeighborhoodFit4555 - 12 hours
|
|But you choose to keep using it even though you think it’s just a
|propaganda machine?
|u/Comfortable-Let-8365 - 12 hours
|
|Yes. Cause it’s funny to read all the delusional comments.
|u/RealRedundant - 10 hours
|
|it shouldn't be a fucking competition, its tragic seeing people
|just straight up forget about Ukraine despite the fact the
|Russians are commiting genocide on the civilian population, fuck
|it theres a modern holocaust happening in the peoples republic of
|china right now, where Uyghur muslims are being locked up, sent to
|work camps and killed, almost mirrored to nazi germany in 1939,
|when was the last time you saw that on the news? when was the last
|time you saw a protest for them? for the ukrainians? just because
|someone downvotes you it doesnt mean were against gaza, you can
|see shit tons of photos on places like pics or therewasanattempt
|of Gaza being bombed into oblivion or isreal just straight up
|doing warcrimes against civilians, or citizens of isreal acting
|like animals in the way they treat Palestinians, but when someone
|reminds people that theres a conflict in europe...oh but what
|about gaza? no one talks about it anymore, no one talks about the
|Muslims in china anymore, remember Myanmar? the country thats
|currently in civil war? according to wikipedia theres been
|conflict raging in myanmar since 1948 so i guess we just lost
|interest :( (same time the arab isreal wars started) Syrian war
|has been going on since 2011. theres gang wars in mexico that have
|killed more people than the population of some countries. the
|death toll in Ukraine is estimated to be in the millions, the war
|in Gaza has killed 43K (palestinians alone tbf) according to Al
|Jezeera. but still it shouldnt be a competition and we shouldn't
|say, more people have died in ukraine than gaza because thats just
|shitty to Palestinians, but likewise we shouldnt say we shouldn't
|give a shit about Ukraine because Isreal is being directly backed
|by the US because thats shitty to the Ukrainians. people are
|dying, homeless, being raped, displaced, and you are making it a
|competition
|u/Snickims - 10 hours
|
|Photos like this, about gaza, have been the only damn thing on the
|front page for fucking months. Chirst, you would think all other
|conflicts and suffering had ended but the war in gaza, the west Bank
|and lebenon if you went by this sub.
|