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|u/Ok_Rest_5421 - 18 hours
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|Wait a minute - Islam tries to forcibly convert? Oh no!!! This breaking
|news shocks everyone who has paid attention to the world forever
|u/supercyberlurker - 18 hours
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|> professors and staff were also subjected to threats of acid attack
|and rape for allegedly not converting to Islam Standard Operating
|Procedure.
|u/ReadingComplete1130 - 17 hours
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|They've come a long way since convert or beheadings.
|u/Gotterdamerrung - 16 hours
|
|Yeah, they used to cut your fucking head off. They still do, but
|they used to too.
|u/archwin - 13 hours
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|Thanks, Ayatollah Hedberg
|u/TodaysTomSawyer777 - 15 hours
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|Progressive af
|u/nonpuissant - 15 hours
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|more like branched out. It's still very much an option, just there
|are more other options now.
|u/thefunkybassist - 14 hours
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|Adapting to the western diversity of choice I see
|u/Its-too-late-for-the - 5 hours
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|If I had a quarter for every convert who wasn’t threatened with
|those acts I probably wouldn’t have any quarters
|u/PatochBateman - 46 minutes
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|this could be in the UK
|u/Ambiorix33 - 18 hours
|
|I dont want to be mean but I can already here my colleagues go ''oh
|but thats not islam that a cultural difference!'' MY BROTHER IN
|HUMANITY the BOOK SAYS YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO IT!
|u/Ok_Rest_5421 - 17 hours
|
|All the people that claim terrorists “aren’t real Islam “- if Islam
|has billions of people and the horrible ones are the minority , why
|don’t the majority get out into the streets to protest ?
|u/Anonuser123abc - 16 hours
|
|Those "real Islam" arguments are textbook examples of the "no true
|scottsman" fallacy.
|u/Basketbally - 15 hours
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|True Scottsman fallacy doesn't apply when there's a strict book
|on what qualifies as a Scottsman. How one interprets the book,
|well, that's why we have Supreme Court Justices.
|u/Anonuser123abc - 15 hours
|
|The whole schism between Catholics and Protestants was on who
|was allowed to read and interpret the rule book. I think it
|counts as NTS. If the book that explains how to do it isn't
|clear enough that most people agree then what is the "real"
|definition?
|u/Basketbally - 14 hours
|
|Well the bar for a real Christian or a real Muslim is quite
|low. Believe in God + either believe Jesus died for your
|sins or Muhammad is the last prophet, respectively. So I
|think these instances of "he's not a real..." is more of one
|simply not knowing the definition. I don't want to get too
|philosophical but I feel this fallacy is thrown around too
|much but it can technically be applied to literally anyone
|who says those words.
|u/purple_spikey_dragon - 2 hours
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|Not knowing the definition due to there not being a
|definition. There is no true definition of what a real
|Muslim is. Even claiming that believing in the Quran alone
|is real Muslim is wrong, as many also believe that real
|Muslims need to believe in the Hadiths, though many would
|argue "which hadiths?". All that to add on the "which side
|is the real Islam?" Because you have two main factions,
|both believe they are and the others aren't (in those
|factions you have more groups of course). There is no "do
|this and you be real Muslim". In Christianity, as far as
|i learned about it, you can be the wrong Christian, but
|you will still be considered Christian. In Islam its
|different. A somewhat fitting example are the stories of
|Beduins who were attacked in southern Israel during the
|Oct 7 massacres. One man reported hearing the attackers
|stop Beduin Muslims and ask them to recite verses, but
|when the man recited a verse the attacker didn't
|recognise, he hit him. So they are Muslims, but not real
|enough for them to be recognised as such.
|u/Rafodin - 4 hours
|
|There is no "strict book" on what qualifies as a Muslim. Islam
|does not follow *sola scriptura* like Protestantism. The
|"tradition" or *Sunna* of Islam is one of the main pillars of
|the religion. In fact only considering the Koran is considered
|typical heresy. The Koran is one-tenth the size of the bible
|and does not have enough instructions in it to form a coherent
|religion. There is no instruction on how to pray for example.
|Tradition as taught by clerics is part and parcel of the
|religion.
|u/Justarandomfan99 - 38 minutes
|
|Quran's goal was NEVER to form any religion but offer a
|general spiritual guidance to "believers". "Islam" in Quran
|simply means "submission to God" and "den" often translated
|as "religion" have dozen of meanings including path, faith,
|culture, etc. .. If there's no instruction to pray then as
|long as the objective is fulfilled (worship God), then the
|prayer is valid. Nothing in quran even suggests that there
|was an entire secondary revelation alongside Quran that the
|prophet supposedly received (only few personal
|inspirations). Similarly, "obey the messenger" means obey
|his message, ie: the Quran since his only duty is said to be
|deliver the quran. (There is plenty of verses the start with
|"Oh prophet say to the believers", so obeying the messenger
|means obeying what he says from quran)
|u/try_to_be_nice_ok - 3 hours
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|Scotsman* Source: am Scotsman.
|u/Ambiorix33 - 17 hours
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|fr, like by definition, their either fundamentalists or
|extremists, which: if Fundamentalist, take the book literally,
|so how is it not the ''real'' thing when they source it 1-1 from
|the source? if Extremists, do the same as the fundamentalists,
|but take it to extremes. If book says ''eat 2 apples a day'' they
|will eat 2 apples a day and threaten to kill you if you dont also
|do it, ergo extremist response to those who dont share the belief
|u/masculine-Apple-7108 - 12 hours
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|"wasnt real communism" types
|u/c_law_one - 16 hours
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|>All the people that claim terrorists “aren’t real Islam “- if
|Islam has billions of people and the horrible ones are the
|minority , why don’t the majority get out into the streets to
|protest ? Where are the majority of Christians protesting Trump
|for not being a real one?
|u/SerbianMasturbater - 14 hours
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|Shoe-horned that one in from out of fucking nowhere.
|u/c_law_one - 13 hours
|
|Well at least you had the balls to reply. What's the
|difference?
|u/Chris-Climber - 5 hours
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|1. There have been TONS of protests against Trump, and will
|be many more, and you see what looks like a majority of
|Americans online protesting about him on social media every
|day 2. There’s a difference between a piece of shit
|President, and an inherently violent and misogynistic
|religion followed by billions of individuals. 3. How can
|you possibly need the difference between an individual and a
|culture explained to you, good lord
|u/Anonuser123abc - 16 hours
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|Catholics and Protestants don't even think the other group are
|"real" Christians. These are all just examples of the "no true
|scottsman" fallacy.
|u/NoLime7384 - 16 hours
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|Nah, only Protestants do that. Catholics have no beef with the
|Orthodox for example
|u/Anonuser123abc - 15 hours
|
|So you agree that the Catholics think the Protestants are
|doing it wrong?
|u/NoLime7384 - 13 hours
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|>>Nah, only Protestants do that >So you agree that the
|Catholics think the Protestants are doing it wrong? I
|think you need glasses
|u/c_law_one - 14 hours
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|Both Islam and Christianity have multiple splits that
|suggest at some point other members thought they were
|doing it very wrong. And both Islam and Christianity are
|splits from Judaism so...
|u/FunBuilding2707 - 12 hours
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|> why don’t the majority get out into the streets to protest ?
|[They... do.](https://abcnews.go.com/International/photos/muslims-
|unite-terrorisms-35280065)
|u/Ok_Rest_5421 - 12 hours
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|2015. Lots has changed
|u/Drafo7 - 14 hours
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|The Bible says you can own slaves and do other horrible stuff, too.
|Nearly every religion has horrible stuff in it that should be
|ignored by any sane person who understands the importance of
|context. There are plenty of stories of Muslims doing good deeds,
|like the one where they surrounded Jewish people with their bodies
|so ISIS wouldn't kill them. Religion is frequently used as an excuse
|to commit indefensible atrocities but that doesn't mean religion
|itself is worthless. Unpopular opinion on anti-theist reddit, I
|know, and I expect a lot of downvotes, but I truly believe there are
|good religious people in the world and that religion still has good
|to offer, especially in terms of mental health.
|u/dropbbbear - 12 hours
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|> The Bible says you can own slaves and do other horrible stuff,
|too The Christian Bible doesn't condone that, and the Jewish
|Torah technically does, but how often do you see Jews doing
|slavery anyway? Meanwhile Islam's unambiguous teaching is that
|you HAVE to conquer the nonbelievers and either force them to
|convert to Islam, subjugate them, or exterminate them en masse.
|And that you are allowed to hide your intention of doing so, until
|you have built up a majority in society. This is the teachings of
|Muhammad, and this is the example he set by being a conquering
|warlord. And many Muslims follow this example. That's why Islam
|is far, far, far ahead of any other religion in terms of violent
|acts. It is inherently dangerous.
|u/dongasaurus - 12 hours
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|The Christian bible has a number of passages requiring slaves to
|be obedient to their masters, while also requiring slave masters
|to treat their slaves justly, and with some critiques of the
|slave trade generally. Pretty much the same position as the 5
|Books of Moses.
|u/deviltamer - 12 hours
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|In this situations making a direct quote from the reference
|material is often the conclusive statement.
|u/dongasaurus - 11 hours
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|5 Slaves, be obedient to your human masters with fear and
|trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ,d 6 not only
|when being watched, as currying favor, but as slaves of
|Christ, doing the will of God from the heart,e 7 willingly
|serving the Lord and not human beings, 8 knowing that each
|will be requited from the Lord for whatever good he does,
|whether he is slave or free. 9 Masters, act in the same way
|toward them, and stop bullying, knowing that both they and
|you have a Master in heaven and that with him there is no
|partiality.f
|u/dropbbbear - 9 hours
|
|In the passages you linked, there is no statement saying
|"Christians can own slaves". In fact, Jesus' commandment "do
|unto others" obviously overrides any implied permission that
|could be read into it.
|u/dongasaurus - 8 hours
|
|One can (and many do) make the exact same arguments about
|the Jewish bible. “Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself”
|is from Leviticus, it is not a Christian invention. It’s
|quite hypocritical to read each passage of the Jewish bible
|literally and in isolation while viewing the Christian bible
|through a more holistic lens. You also might recall that the
|entirety of the Jewish bible is part of the Christian bible,
|and Jesus was a Jew. Either both condone slavery or neither
|does. Some of the most fundamental ideals of Judaism is that
|humans are made in the image of god, love thy neighbor as
|thyself, and to treat strangers with the same love and
|kindness. Both accept that slavery existed at the time, and
|both attempt to substantially limit the institution of
|slavery and provide protections to slaves.
|u/dropbbbear - 6 hours
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|> One can (and many do) make the exact same arguments
|about the Jewish bible. I see no issue with this. Though
|I will add that Jesus went further and also explicitly
|defined "neighbour" as anyone in need with the Good
|Samaritan parable. >It’s quite hypocritical to read each
|passage of the Jewish bible literally and in isolation
|while viewing the Christian bible through a more holistic
|lens. I have no intention to do that. >Either both
|condone slavery or neither does I'd lean towards neither,
|then. Exodus 21:16 - "Anyone who kidnaps someone is to be
|put to death, whether the victim has been sold or is still
|in the kidnapper’s possession." Enslavers are also called
|immoral in Timothy.
|u/Juan20455 - 14 hours
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|I would love a source on that. It's just that it doesn't sound
|real. ISIS being ISIS.
|u/AgingLolita - 13 hours
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|They didn't protect the Jewish people because they followed the
|teachings of Islam though, they protected the Jewish people
|because they were good people making a moral choice.
|u/Ambiorix33 - 12 hours
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|the difference is though, that currently, one is doing alot more
|things in these past couple of decades to get noticed than the
|other two you've mentioned, including insisting places that are
|not majority of that faith to change for them instead of adapting
|to the local customs. Maybe in a couple decades another
|religion will be doing it and you'll see comments like yours ''not
|all X-religion'' but that still wont change who is doing what now
|and with what excuse
|u/Coronabandkaro - 17 hours
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|Pretty much true for all abrahamic religions. Look at anyone else as
|heathens to be converted.
|u/Anonuser123abc - 16 hours
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|There is very little effort to convince people to become Jewish.
|The Christians and the Muslims are very big on conversion.
|u/Sufficient-Suit-3884 - 16 hours
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|Not Judaism. Jews (Orthodox) actually reject people who try to
|convert and join them, and agree to them only after they prove
|that they have no motives other than a genuine desire to be Jews.
|u/adiliv3007 - 5 hours
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|Try going to a rabbi and telling him you want to convert, he'll
|reject you.
|u/Basketbally - 15 hours
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|You can't even be converted in most versions of Judaism
|u/jeheuskwnsbxhzjs - 13 hours
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|That’s incorrect. All Jewish religious movements accept converts
|and always have. They just don’t actively seek people out.
|u/Ambiorix33 - 17 hours
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|i'd say true of just about every organized religion. The moment
|there was a person or persons at the top who could collect
|resources in exchange for their religious service in a major way,
|you had a vested interest in making sure you had as many
|''clients'' as possible, even better if you had clients who
|couldnt switch without social stigma or threats of death
|u/Coronabandkaro - 17 hours
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|Not sure where it exists in Hinduism anymore.
|u/AluminiumCucumbers - 16 hours
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|Hindu-nationalist India isn't a great place these days
|u/Yuri_diculous - 18 hours
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|I was THIS 🤌CLOSE to converting to Islam but after hearing such
|shocking news I won't!
|u/leg_day - 17 hours
|
|What if I already bought my acid? Do you think the acid store takes
|returns?
|u/RollingMeteors - 16 hours
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|I just grabbed mine off the shelf from the chemistry department.
|¿You paid for yours? Why don’t you alchemate me some gold Mr.
|money Bags!
|u/Sarah-VanDistel - 7 hours
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|Interestingly, in Judaism, a rabbi is supposed to turn down an
|aspirant convert 3 times, before accepting his/her request.
|Historically, proselytism in Judaism has been exceedingly rare.
|u/halfbakedkornflake - 15 hours
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|Your comment is considered hate speech in the UK, which could result
|in fines, imprisonment; or both. Fucking nuts, man.
|u/ImportantObjective45 - 11 hours
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|Say the forced conversions are "fake islam"
|u/GrimpenMar - 6 hours
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|So no threat of the death penalty for apostacy then, right?
|u/Ok_Rest_5421 - 15 hours
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|The UK is a lost cause. Fuck that place
|u/Upset-Rhubarb3930 - 1 hour
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|Still better than wherever you're from
|u/Dandorious-Chiggens - 15 hours
|
|Yeah no its not, stop spreading bollocks. The only people that
|got arrested were people amplifying calls to violence and those
|actively participating in literal pogroms. Funny how people like
|yourself downplay that part though. I Wonder why.
|u/Scary_Psychology_285 - 12 hours
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|At my college, they called me an idiot as I politely declined
|u/Old_Eccentric777 - 2 hours
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|And the typical muslims will said that all of the converts in Middle
|east, hundreds and thousand of years ago are because they saw beauty
|and the goodness of islam. it's like saying how a victim saw the
|handsomeness of her 🍇ist.
|u/MonkeyExp227 - 10 hours
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|Fuck Religion
|u/Phyllida_Poshtart - 1 hour
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|Strange I could have sworn blind that one of the tenets of Islam was
|not to force conversion.....
|u/Calarann - 13 hours
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|Something almost every religion is guilty of.
|u/Ok_Rest_5421 - 13 hours
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|One is objectively way, way, way worse and more dangerous than the
|rest
|u/GeneralDil - 13 hours
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|Probably one that organized crusades if I had to guess
|u/dropbbbear - 9 hours
|
|You do realise they were started in response to Islam's
|aggressive conquest, right? From 600-1000 the Islamic
|caliphates were constantly invading neighbouring lands, such as
|the Byzantine Empire and Spain. When they conquered their
|territory, they would either force everyone to convert to Islam,
|or oppress them and make them pay ruinous taxes, or sometimes
|just outright massacre them. The Crusades began because the
|Byzantines actually asked the Crusaders to come and protect them
|from the constant onslaught of Islamic aggression. Anyway...
|That was 700+ years ago! Whereas from the past few decades
|alone, Islamic-motivated violence has killed 100,000s of people.
|No other religion in the current day gets even close.
|u/Ok_Rest_5421 - 13 hours
|
|I didn’t realize we’re traveling back in time many hundreds of
|years .
|u/GeneralDil - 13 hours
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|It's okay. That history follows along into the beginning of
|America and beyond into pretty recent Canadian history.
|u/kwanzaa_hut - 11 hours
|
|Oh, history? Like in the past? If every religion is guilty
|of doing this shit in the past then we’re free to scrutinize
|the largest religion in CURRENT DAY carrying out beheadings
|in the name of god on a regular basis. Time to catch up with
|the rest of civilization.
|u/dropbbbear - 9 hours
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|> doesn't negate what it still represents today Yes it
|does, because it was different people, and is no longer
|occurring.
|u/Hefty-Librarian8891 - 5 hours
|
|Are you trying to cope? This looks like hard hard coping.
|Just out of spite I say let them convert if they do, infact
|if that can prevent Islam sorry cancer from spreading and
|Christianity takes over I'm all for it. ALL FOR IT. At
|least I'm not hearing news like above when it comes to
|Christianity. So don't try and give bullshit reasons like
|ChriStiAniTy coNvErts pEoPle tOo. That is not the news is
|about. It's their audacity to threaten people. And people
|like you draw parallels between islam and Christianity?
|Amazing. I'm guessing you're one of them by the way you use
|logic.
|u/codlyoko1045 - 2 hours
|
|The same one that organised crusades in response to Islamic
|conquests, yeah
|u/CountFuckyoula - 15 hours
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|Not Islam. There's over a billion of us. Some of us actually read the
|quran to understand it. It's actually againt our religion to force
|people to convert. These guys are not Muslims. They're fucking morons.
|u/Ok_Rest_5421 - 15 hours
|
|I’ve read the Quran and there are tons of references in the first
|few pages about what to do to non believers
|u/CountFuckyoula - 14 hours
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|Non belivers, or known as Khafirs. Tend to be ones within your
|own house( as in muslims who stray from the path).. Oddly enough i
|think I know what you're talking about. It's the same surah I
|mentioned earlier. First off. As i mentioned. Comprehension is
|important, hence the whole chapter on reading. Otherwise you have
|fools who taking things literally in the quran. No were not the
|judge. Yes. I know what chapters you're talking about. Every
|Islamophobe mentions it and tend to quote a part of it. Lastly.
|You know metaphors and such tend to be laid heavy in a religion
|that's written in a poetic language right . ?.
|u/FuckAllYourHonour - 14 hours
|
|No. There is no excuse, no fucking context for punishing people
|for not following a religion. There was never a justification
|and anyone who tries to do what you're doing is wholly
|complicit.
|u/Ok_Rest_5421 - 14 hours
|
|Then why is it that so many people in your religion insist that
|it is to be taken literally ? Why is there one today bent on
|holy war and taking over the world ? Why do you call people
|islamaphobic? Because we are afraid of the people who tell us
|they want to kill us? If that’s a phobia , sure. I’m afraid of
|it.
|u/CountFuckyoula - 14 hours
|
|Clutch your pearls. As i said. There's over a billion of us.
|Does that make sense.
|u/deviltamer - 12 hours
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|Lmao billion who'd happily kill each other or maybe half
|don't even consider the other half muslim or call them
|Kaafir in your lingo. Ahmediya, Sufi, Shia, Sunni etc etc.
|Some of them are maybe just cultural muslim but are in fact
|rational and don't want to alienate their friends and family
|just coz they are ignorant of scientific temper. Ignorance
|is bliss. Stay blissfull my friend
|u/CountFuckyoula - 11 hours
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|You too stay blissful
|u/CountFuckyoula - 14 hours
|
|As i said. Comprehension is not a strong suit amongst the
|general population. Not just muslims... lastly. Tell the soth
|lords of America to stop mingling in middle east ?. Just a
|thought.
|u/Ok_Rest_5421 - 14 hours
|
|Try not being part of an archaic relic of a religion that’s
|predicated on taking over the world , culling non believers,
|and restricting the rights of anyone who isn’t you.
|u/CountFuckyoula - 11 hours
|
|As i said. Alot if people lack comprehension skills. Youre
|clearly one of them , those are alot of buzzwords, you
|want some soy milk?
|u/FuckAllYourHonour - 14 hours
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|How are there over a billion of you when one major faction doesn't
|even consider the others as "real" ones and vice versa?
|u/Ok_Rest_5421 - 14 hours
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|So that makes threats of violence for non believers ok? How
|brainwashed are you?
|u/Ok_Rest_5421 - 14 hours
|
|Sorry Muslims wanting to convert people is made up? Amazing .
|Plz continue
|u/Bakayokoforpresident - 8 hours
|
|So according to you saying ‘all Muslims are bad’ is hateful…
|but saying 'all Indians are shit' is perfectly fine. Hmm…
|u/Bakayokoforpresident - 7 hours
|
|Nuh-uh, I respect both Muslims and Indians. I live in
|the 21st century. You're the one who's oddly hyper-
|opinionated and perhaps, maybe slightly, a tad bit
|xenophobic. "Wow, hating everyone from a major country
|is so cool!!!" is what you pretty much just said.
|u/Big_BossSnake - 14 hours
|
|They'd just chuck you off the roof, oh no wait, that's what they
|do to gays I meant they'd stone you... wait no that's rape
|victims
|u/TorontoGiraffe - 18 hours
|
|“Oppressed minority” behaviour
|u/feage7 - 1 hour
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|Are they considered a minority in India?
|u/DangerousPace2778 - 1 hour
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|Ofc, they are. They still get all the minority funds, personal laws
|and other shits. And get away with most of crimes on the name of
|oppression. Recently, lovely SC of India said they won't allow child
|marriage laws to all religions like Islam which allows Indian Muslim
|girls to get married at 15.
|u/feage7 - 43 minutes
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|It was a genuine question. I don't know the demographic of india.
|u/DangerousPace2778 - 39 minutes
|
|I understand it, there are about 200 million muslims in India.
|India has largest muslim population as a non Islamic country.
|And largest after Indonesia and Pakistan.
|u/ganbaro - 17 hours
|
|The uni is top 900 in QS and top 600 in THE ranking, so not all that bad
|for a uni in a developing country However, I am not sure how religious
|alignment fits with the idea of an university being a place of
|scientific research and objectivity. While public, their stuff still
|seems to be Muslims dominated far beyond their share of Indian
|population. Does India not have regulation banning religious
|discrimination in employment?
|u/No-Location-1885 - 17 hours
|
|We have 2 sets of laws, one for all Indians and one only for muslims
|based on sharia. We have discrimination in laws and you expect us not
|to have discrimination in employment 😂 And if some action is taken
|against this the western media will immediately condemn India as
|islamobhopic
|u/ganbaro - 17 hours
|
|Hey, I just asked I didn't know you have sharia law I experienced
|it in Malaysia and don't exactly like what it does to a society
|u/No-Location-1885 - 17 hours
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|Sorry I was more frustrated with our conditions rather than your
|question.
|u/ganbaro - 3 hours
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|No worries
|u/Concept-Plastic - 5 hours
|
|Muslims get to have “Muslim personal law board” adhering Sharia.
|The current govt wants to bring UCC that makes all citizens under
|the Constitutional laws. Opposition along with global left calls
|the Delhi govt Islamophobe and extreme right, but in reality, this
|so called right party wants to bring uniform civil code
|u/ComprehensiveDeal908 - 1 hour
|
|muslim personal law is not sharia, it is just some personal laws
|that every faith tribe or ilk is allowed to practice since the
|inception of the country, the problem came when some religions
|like sections in hindus did not have their laws codified, this
|did not guarantee any rights or decide on any duties since the
|laws were either incomplete or did not have a consensus of all
|the sections. contrary to all that muslims have had contracts
|with terms and conditions since 1400 years that everyone agrees
|to so a new uniform code was not necessary.
|u/Concept-Plastic - 1 hour
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|You’re correct, its not entirely Sharia just a major subset of
|it. Has most laws like multiple wives allowed for a guy etc.
|u/srout_fed - 2 hours
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|Well it's not sharia per se but many facets of it are taken in for
|Muslim Personal Laws. Some of the more regressive ones have been
|phased out like the Tripple Talaq (husband just had to say talaq 3
|times to divorce the wife and will not be liable to pay any
|alimony or support). And yes even that was called islamaphobic...
|Damn
|u/DangerousPace2778 - 1 hour
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|Indian muslims have personal law, there will be riots if Sharia is
|removed. That is why there is so much protest against UCC, because
|it will bring equal law for all.
|u/turquoise_amethyst - 9 hours
|
|Huh, that’s actually pretty interesting. Is that across the board,
|everywhere in India, or only areas with bigger Muslim populations?
|Has it always been that way?
|u/Background-Pop-1685 - 5 hours
|
|It is all across India, in all states. It's in the constitution.
|The Muslim biased laws were not so hard during initial days.
|However, subsequent government brought new and strict laws
|favouring Muslim for vote bank politics. Like a 15 year old muslim
|girl can be married in India to a 20-30 or even older male. But
|hindus or girls of any other religion need to be atleast 18 years
|of age to consent for marriage. Moreover, there are separate
|property and tax laws under Muslim Waqf board that can declare any
|property it's own muslim property without going to courts. Last
|year, they claimed and occupied a whole village with 2000 years
|old Hindu temple to be their own. Irony is, Islam is just 1300
|years old. There are numerous such biased laws in India. There are
|few Christian favouring laws too.
|u/ComprehensiveDeal908 - 1 hour
|
|most of what you say is not true, according to Prohibition of
|Child Marriage Act,2006 no one in india can marry before 18(f)
|and 21(m), there are no separate property laws for muslims,
|muslims when they give any property to waqf lose any claim of
|ownership to it, it cant be sold it cant be inherited, it goes
|to charity where the income can be used only for the welfare of
|the people. the cillage you talk about was already land given to
|hindus by a previous ruler under waqf. you guys want to claim
|it, go ahead.
|u/idontlikesurprises - 59 minutes
|
|There is a recent, a month old, judgement stating that 18 yoe
|age limit does not apply to Muslims because of their personal
|law.
|u/secure_caramel - 2 hours
|
|why should you care about western media condamnation ?
|u/TravellingMills - 1 hour
|
|[https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/B-9-2020-0079\_EN.h
|tml](https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/B-9-2020-0079_E
|N.html) Because of this. EU literally passed a resolution as if
|India is their colony or something. Its not about caring what
|western media thinks, its the kind of systems western countries
|have. These resolutions are then used to block military sales or
|sanctions. EU wondered why we didn't support them on Ukraine issue
|after this debacle.
|u/siberuangbugil - 8 hours
|
|what about cow vigilante?
|u/monkeezee - 7 hours
|
|Your mom deserves to be protected.
|u/srout_fed - 2 hours
|
|Yeah that is a problem we need to look into.
|u/Delicious-Tachyons - 14 hours
|
|No we won't.
|u/srout_fed - 2 hours
|
|Maybe not you but others definitely will. It will be branded as
|majoritarianism or islamaphobic. It's always been that way.... No
|one cares about the context.
|u/Capable-Schedule1753 - 10 hours
|
|To be fair, there are examples of religious universities, even just
|within the US. Brigham Young university that runs out of Utah is quite
|literally named after a leader of the mormon church and is almost
|entirely mormon, and students there have to follow an "honour code"
|based on mormon ideals of purity. This isn't just a one
|religion/country thing.
|u/cestabhi - 15 hours
|
|Afaik it was built at a time when Hindus and Muslims were pretty
|segregated (still kinda are). They had separate schools, colleges,
|gentlemen's clubs, dinning halls, etc. This arrangement was based on
|the ideology of [composite
|nationalism](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_nationalism)
|which was popular among both Hindu and Muslim leaders back then, most
|of whom were extremely orthodox and had little interest in mixing with
|the other side. Indian nationalism led by Indian liberals who sought
|to forge a unified nation based on modern values tore these ideas
|apart to a large extent. As a result, you still have institutions
|with namss like Banaras Hindu University or Aligarh Muslim University
|even though these days anyone of any religion or no religion can go
|study there. But yeah some of the religious prejudice still exists.
|u/GreenBasi - 6 hours
|
|Bhu ain't has this religious bulshit .
|u/cestabhi - 5 hours
|
|Yeah but it was originally designed to be a much more religious
|place. Same goes for the DAV schools whose name stands for
|"Dayanand Anglo-Vedic". They were originally built by the Arya
|Samaj to impart both religious as well as secular education but
|now they're practically non-religious places.
|u/GreenBasi - 4 hours
|
|Still they are way more inclusive than many minority
|institutions, dav schools have strong ties with rss still they
|are more inclusive then likes of Jamia or. Amu.
|u/ganbaro - 3 hours
|
|Thanks, I will have to read up more on the background of Indian
|policies
|u/srout_fed - 2 hours
|
|It's a pretty messy affair honestly. But if you're interested you
|can check Constituent assembly debates for more information
|https://www.constitutionofindia.net/constitution-assembly-debates/
|Some views there are pretty wacky and regressive and some are
|truly brilliant... Either way it's pretty interesting.
|u/Decent_Hippo3851 - 16 hours
|
|Wdym its perfect, whenever you cant figure something out you just slab
|the "god" stamp on it and move on.
|u/ganbaro - 15 hours
|
|I know, but I am writing in 2024 about an university in 2024 I
|could now pack this into a snarky remark like you but why bother?
|Edit: Also I didn't criticise religious people at universities per
|se, but discrimination in academia on religious grounds Edit: And
|ninja editing in more people from more recent times doesn't change
|that lol
|u/ImportantObjective45 - 11 hours
|
|Reading medieval jokes I see the main thing a university did was
|promote diversity.
|u/Underworld_Circle - 6 hours
|
|These universities were only created by religious Christians only
|because they were founded during a time when freedom of religion did
|not exist. The same goes with renowned and famous scientists,
|mathematicians and philosophers too: All of them were Christians,
|but only because they lived in a time where they did not have the
|freedom of choice of what they were allowed to believe. Being a
|Christian of a wrong denomination/sect in certain parts of Europe
|during those time can easily net you a one way ticket to
|imprisonment, torture, a public lynching or the death penalty. You’d
|think people who had a completely different religious belief (or
|even none at all) would fair any better? Christianity and Islam
|share similarities to Communism in the fact all three of these
|religions and ideologies are the best ideologies for society that
|man has ever created… …but only in an environemnt when any other
|religion or ideology is restricted, forbidden or banned.
|u/entropyrun - 16 hours
|
|This is a public university which wholly funded by government of india
|and its an islamic university where Muslims are preferred and one third
|of the total seats are reserved for muslim applicants. And they claim
|india is secular.
|u/_chutzpah_reloaded07 - 5 hours
|
|Wait till you learn about the Waqf board in India.
|u/entropyrun - 4 hours
|
|I am from India. Wait till you hear Muslims get reservation in many
|states based on their religious background alone. No other religion
|get such perks.
|u/GreenBasi - 6 hours
|
|Half of the seats in many courses
|u/MadHorse6969 - 6 hours
|
|And When we take any steps, Western Media will cry "Islamophobia"
|"Death of Secularism". There is a problem with Islamic aggression and
|we must address it.
|u/GingerPinoy - 5 hours
|
|As a Westerner, you won't hear that from me lol Y'all do what you
|need to do
|u/MadHorse6969 - 5 hours
|
|Thank you for understanding. I have tried explaining. How 6-7% of
|Islamic population in Europe is driving those countries crazy.
|We literally had 8% Muslims 75 years ago which has increased to
|14% now. All that in a population of 1.4 billion. Just think of
|the sheer number of Islamists we have and the problems we face.
|Few years back, I would have got banned for saying these. But now
|many in the West understand the predicament.
|u/entropyrun - 4 hours
|
|14% was according to official data from census 2011. In reality
|it is at least 20% including illegal immigrants in 2024.
|u/SnooMaps3950 - 18 hours
|
|How is this different than every single Evangelical Christian college
|out there?
|u/RespectedAuthority - 17 hours
|
|Do they also threaten with rape and acid attacks unless people
|convert to Christianity?
|u/ant3k - 17 hours
|
|No, it’s more subtle indoctrination via Oklahoma schooling
|u/IncoZone - 16 hours
|
|That's the difference, that's how it's different
|u/twattner - 15 hours
|
|Do you think it has finally clicked?
|u/entropyrun - 16 hours
|
|Indoctrination of Marxist and woke ideas happen more often than
|anything in universities in the United States.
|u/Lurkingandsearching - 12 hours
|
|As does indoctrination into National Socialism and Neo
|Feudalism happen in online spaces, especially for troubled
|young men who feel ignored by society. The answer is never any
|“utopian” ideology, -ism, or other empty so called quick
|fixes. The fixes to big problems are a lot of work,
|multifaceted, and not found in blaming the masses.
|u/tingerlingererer - 15 hours
|
|"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving
|you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow
|citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In
|such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it
|is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred
|among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all
|its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile
|all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the
|entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.
| That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.
| Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.
| Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to
|you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation,
|just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God
|will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I
|am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."
| (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT) (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
| As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms
|for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you,
|then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if
|they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack
|the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every
|man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women,
|children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils
|of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
|u/SuperChadMan - 16 hours
|
|Crazy how any time this happens someone comes in with the WHAT ABOUT
|THE CHRISTIANS🤓☝️ The willingness for people to go to bat for acid
|attacks is unreal
|u/ThreeDawgs - 14 hours
|
|Islamic “persecuted minority” complex. And some people *love* to
|bat for a persecuted minority, no matter what they do.
|u/ganbaro - 17 hours
|
|These also suck. However, I don't think these are the quality
|standard India aims to achieve with its public unis
|u/AlexThugNastyyy - 16 hours
|
|Least Brain Damaged Reddit Leftist.
|u/srout_fed - 1 hour
|
|What was said there? It's removed now....
|u/SnooMaps3950 - 16 hours
|
|Answer is. It isn't. They both suck, and neither side is capable of
|looking at the big picture.
|u/Coronabandkaro - 17 hours
|
|They do it with money.
|u/Quirky-Recover-3936 - 18 hours
|
|Watch as any action against this gets spinned into a story on how india
|is oppressing minorities.
|u/SituationGreat8815 - 16 hours
|
|We will probably see something about republicans and Trump even though
|it’s completely irrelevant lol.
|u/sleepysnowboarder - 13 hours
|
|They’re brown do the far left Ofcourse thinks they are oppressed
|u/Hot_Excitement_6 - 15 hours
|
|Why can't both things be true?
|u/Basketbally - 16 hours
|
|India is oppressing minorities. And it's been getting worse the last
|several years. There should be no doubt about that.
|u/Upbeat-Minimum5028 - 14 hours
|
|Evidence?
|u/1egg_4u - 13 hours
|
|Ill bite this lazy bait and be 0% surprised when you dont answer
|[amnesty international writeup of Indias human rights status
|including persecution of religious minorities
|](https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/asia-and-the-pacific/south-
|asia/india/report-india/) [human rights watch writeup on Indias
|increasing abuses of minorities and
|critics](https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/01/11/india-increased-
|abuses-against-minorities-critics) [human rights watch remarks on
|hate speech in Modi's electoral campaign
|](https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/08/14/india-hate-speech-fueled-
|modis-election-campaign) Lets not pretend Modi isnt an advocate
|of aggressive hindu nationalism. He isnt hiding it, its the slow
|creep of fascism and its happening everywhere India included. You
|just wont notice if youre part of the in-group being pandered to.
|*huh, crickets... I guess you never cared about the evidence?
|u/winter_-_-_ - 10 hours
|
|Crickets because ain't nobody believing human rights watch out
|of all organisations. And let me tell you my guy, no one is
|being oppressed in India, out of all countries. The welfare
|schemes provided to every community, should be a sign that there
|is no discrimination. But what is your opinion on the Hindu
|genocide in Bangladesh? (Oh and go and learn what fascism
|actually is. The word has become the trend of our times it
|seems)
|u/1egg_4u - 9 hours
|
|[rated high for credible reporting with a left-center
|bias](https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/human-rights-watch/)
|I'll take their word over yours considering you dont know what
|fascism is, probably dont care to learn, and cant draw
|parallels to a charismatic nationalist that silences critics
|and scapegoats religious minorities.
|u/winter_-_-_ - 9 hours
|
|Oh I don't care about what YOU particularly think about
|India, dude. Please believe the US news outlets and "human
|rights" organisations that only work as left propaganda, I
|could care less ✌️ What does a person living in India,
|having witnessed the demographic change in front of their
|own eyes know, right?
|u/1egg_4u - 9 hours
|
|Factual reporting isnt propaganda. Telling people "there
|is no discrimination in india" after there was a [massive
|surge in hate crimes there
|](https://time.com/5617161/india-religious-hate-crimes-
|modi/) this past decade is borderline delusional [that
|number may be as high as 786% and sees the BJP involved in
|violent riots that have killed
|people](https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/02/india/india-train-
|shooting-communal-violence-gurugram-intl-hnk/index.html)
|No country is perfect. Blinding yourself to what happens
|to the people around you may benefit now, but fascism
|always need an out group. You better hope youre never in
|that out group because when BJP is done with muslims and
|done with sikhs they will need someone else. Thats how
|this works.
|u/winter_-_-_ - 9 hours
|
|CNN Next you'll quote BBC and The Wire ✌️ Do link
|AlJazeera as well. Are you gonna link something on
|violence against Hindus and how they are not even
|allowed to celebrate their festivals in Muslim majority
|areas- Oh wait, your news outlets don't report that cuz
|it doesn't fit your agenda
|u/christopheraser - 7 hours
|
|Keep saying you could care less. The amount of time you're
|putting into arguing this proves you do care ✌️ India
|does have human rights issues, most countries do. Just
|because your not personally affected doesn't mean it's not
|happening. Both Hindus and Muslims can be affected by this
|and it's wrong in both cases.
|u/srout_fed - 1 hour
|
|...unlike the commenter before you I'll admit, there are
|pretty serious issues in India and yes the current
|dispensation is kinda against the Muslim. But I will also
|say that the reports that you see in the western and
|particularly left media are blown out of proportion and more
|often than not are pretty one sided and biased. Also all
|the welfare and govt sponsored programs tend to be pretty
|non discriminatory in their targeting. Be it the water
|supply or anything else. But yes there are exceptions here
|and there which is sad. As far as Human rights go yes.
|When it comes to political issues there are many instances
|of cruelty and violations of rights. "Cow vigilantism" and
|more recently "bulldozer" are probably the most glaring of
|them. Also silencing opposition is pretty overblown. Do
|they try? Yes. But more often than not they fail because we
|have more than adequate checks and balances in the system. I
|don't think that any of those that the govt has tried to
|silence are behind the bar or actually in fact silent. And
|throwing around the terms fascist just because we have a
|single party with power and its bias towards a single
|category is not right either. But Authoritarian and
|nationalistic? Yes that I will agree a 1000% but not exactly
|fascist. The opposition is alive and doing okish. If
|anything we are cursed with a pretty pathetic and elitist
|opposition that has done nothing to win the popular support.
|u/C0R0NA_CHAN - 5 hours
|
|I don't know man i would have a dumb and hate speech PM than a
|PM who is pakistan sympathizer and likes terrorists. The left
|liberals in that country are literally Pakistan's asset
|u/blighander - 16 hours
|
|They can create any post they want to "tackle" the issue all day, but at
|the end of the day Muslims don't believe in plural societies and/or
|coexistence. Edit: Grammar
|u/BarnacleEddy - 12 hours
|
|Europe will face major problems in the future.
|u/igkeit - 9 hours
|
|It's already facing major issues but I think Islam will slowly take
|over without anyone doing anything cause everyone is too scared and
|since they're slowly becoming the majority they will take over by
|following the democratic process thanks to their sheer number
|u/BarnacleEddy - 9 hours
|
|Noone expected the Spanish Inquisition!
|u/blighander - 5 hours
|
|Unfortunately they are already facing issues, Muslims have a deep
|history in Europe from Algerian immigration to France, Turkish guest
|workers in Germany, and so on.. But with immigration from the MENA
|(Middle East North Africa.) intensifying in the last 15 years due to
|instability in the Middle East, there is a new demographic imbalance
|in European countries that coincides with increases in
|criminal/terrorist activity in their respective nations. I am not a
|right wing person, in fact I'm a social democrat if you had to place
|me, but how can you blame vast segments of Western societies for
|resorting to far-right politicians? Because all the mainstream
|politicians are ignoring the elephant in the room.
|u/sunny-beans - 2 hours
|
|We are fucked and I am honestly terrified of the future of Europe.
|And no one does a thing. It is awful and so sad.
|u/waynep712222 - 17 hours
|
|"As-salaam-alaikum" is an Arabic phrase that means "peace be upon you.
|i guess not..
|u/moonLanding123 - 7 hours
|
|a dead man is at peace.
|u/Dom19 - 8 hours
|
|Peace upon you as long as you submit to Islam
|u/Mean-Suit-1874 - 7 hours
|
|Peace for me, Piss for you.
|u/cvbarnhart - 16 hours
|
|Islam, ladies and gentlemen.
|u/EverythingOnce1 - 5 hours
|
|Who wouldn’t want to worship an insane murderous zealot, wear the lamest
|religious hats and not eat pork!?
|u/GoldenBuffaloes - 14 hours
|
|Gonna start making them pay jizya soon?
|u/SoulForTrade - 4 hours
|
|This is how it starts. People are completely ignorant to the fact that
|in some Islamic states, being of any other religion or leaving Islam has
|a very high social cost or is illegal.
|u/Pieter-Beetle - 15 hours
|
|Always a Good idea to force a hobby on to people……🤔
|u/DragonQueen_777 - 19 hours
|
|Not sure how common or true these incidents are, but I just came across
|this - https://www.reddit.com/r/Kerala/s/iwAwzsJzl9
|u/Concept-Plastic - 4 hours
|
|Secularism for thee
|u/Roaring_Beaver - 18 hours
|
|Hey now, don't be racist, white-supremacist, colonialist or something
|like that! You are going to hurt the feelings of tolerant Leftists and
|Muslims.
|u/BeautifulBrownie - 18 hours
|
|I'm guessing it goes Indonesia>Pakistan>India?
|u/Hari_om_tat_sat - 16 hours
|
|Indonesia > India > Pakistan. If Pakistan’s muslim population is
|larger than India’s, it is a recent occurrence.
|u/elidoan - 17 hours
|
|#JustMughalThings
|u/PK_thundr - 16 hours
|
|Fine gentlemen like Mahmoud Ghazini, khilji, and Tuglaq who made
|mountains of skulls from the local population and destroyed the
|largest university in the world at the time.
|u/PK_thundr - 15 hours
|
|Wrong. I’m a cultural Christian who’s tired of how in casual
|conversation Islamic invasion being whitewashed, while every
|misadventure of western civilization is painted as the worst
|thing ever inflicted.
|u/goodfella_de_niro - 14 hours
|
|Oh fuck off, if you can prove him wrong then please do.
|Don't shit and eat it in front of everyone.
|u/Valianne11111 - 18 hours
|
|Things worked better in a lot of ways when people had the expectation
|that they will assimilate.
|u/VisibleStranger489 - 17 hours
|
|Atheists have probably a worse track record than muslims. Atheists
|killed hundreds of million people in the last century.
|u/Snaggmaw - 16 hours
|
|They weren't killed in the name of atheism is the difference. Also,
|you should read up on the Muslim invasions into India.
|u/VisibleStranger489 - 16 hours
|
|Religious people were thrown into the gulags for being religious.
|That's being killed in the name of atheism.
|u/Snaggmaw - 16 hours
|
|Pretty sure that's being killed in the name of stalinistic
|communism. Then again, if you're the kind of person who can
|call north Korea "atheist" with a straight face then arguing
|further has no point.
|u/Smeg-life - 17 hours
|
|>Atheists have probably a worsr track record than muslims. Islam
|didn't get invented till approx 610 AD, atheists have been around a
|lot longer. I'm sure Islam will catch up.
|u/No_Grass_3728 - 20 hours
|
|Out of all the countries, this is happening in India. Is India weak now
|u/Gatholig-Criostach - 18 hours
|
|Unfortunately for India they have always been the canary in the coal
|mine with islamism. [Started with the Muslim Conquests of the Indian
|subcontinent](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquests_in_the_
|Indian_subcontinent) Under various Islamic rulers the Hindu Indians
|have [faced persecution we in tue west could not
|imagine](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Hindus). More
|about persecution of non Muslims throughout the Indian subcontinent:
|https://minorityrights.org/communities/hindus-2/
|https://hir.harvard.edu/the-past-has-yet-to-leave-the-present-
|genocide-in-bangladesh/amp/ https://insightuk.org/over-a-thousand-
|years-of-hindu-genocides-a-wakeup-call
|https://www.raoulwallenberg.net/news/was-there-an-
|islamic-“genocide”-of-hindus/
|u/neatdude73 - 18 hours
|
|What's gonna happen, do you think? Radical Islamists have always
|existed in India and have continued to do so despite ten years of
|bjp rule
|u/StayingUp4AFeeling - 18 hours
|
|Ruling party is a bunch of grandstanding wimps who take the W for
|stuff that is politically expedient even if it is iffy wrt
|separation-of-religion-and-state; but when it comes to actually
|taking the steps needed to move the Muslim population of India into
|modernity and away from brainwashing, they suddenly act weak. And
|they let issues where they actually NEED to step in with
|authoritarianism, they let the issue burn for way too long. See:
|Manipur tribal violence.
|u/DiskMatter - 18 hours
|
|Ahh so the bad, Anti Islam gov will do some horrible thing now, but
|let this happen for previous 2 terms? Lol, at least chat shit that's
|somewhat believable. If India was anti-Islam nothing like this
|would be happening. India is just anti-radicals and anti-terrorists.
|Not our problem one chooses to be that. And radical Islam that
|forces others even in university to convert, even threatened staff
|with rape etc if they don't convert, should get all the weight of
|the law thrown at them anyway. They have no place in the modern
|world and no amount of simps like you trying to paint them as
|opressed minority (while they threated rape etc) can change who they
|really are, world is getting increasingly aware of them & their true
|colors. Modi is so bad towards scared Islam minority that the
|minority is fearfully running a coversion racket in India's
|universities and threatening everyone there without fear of
|consequences. Cool story bro, next time tell us how Earth is
|hexagonal.
|u/AccomplishedCommon34 - 17 hours
|
|Exactly! All Modi would do is issue 2 statements during an
|election rally and immediately forget about the problem.
|u/DegreeOdd8983 - 17 hours
|
|Man I'm a diehard Modi fan. Bro is the founding father of a quick
|developing India. I was just joking. I'm a fan of his growth from
|a Tea-boy to one of the most influential in I dian history
|u/gmarkerbo - 17 hours
|
|India isn't China or Russia.
|u/DegreeOdd8983 - 17 hours
|
|Ik ik. Just joking.
|u/AccomplishedCommon34 - 17 hours
|
|Lol! Modi is only good at clicking photos and selfies with world
|leaders. He literally garnered votes promising to curb illegal
|Bangladeshi immigration. Turns out, Modi's tenure saw the least ever
|deportations in the last 20 years.
|u/LetMeSmashThatHobo - 17 hours
|
|It would really be a shame if someone in India actually reported
|facts rather than parroting narratives preferred by whoever is in
|power.
|u/SomeoneOne0 - 18 hours
|
|Well well well
|u/techieshavecutebutts - 8 hours
|
|Better avoid any school with heavy religious affiliation.
|u/HovercraftHumble8007 - 18 hours
|
|Forcing someone to become Muslim or Christian or Buddhism is definitely
|a brilliant idea especially if it comes from a university 🤔
|u/13restlessdreams - 18 hours
|
|Only one uses threats of rape and assault with acid though.
|u/Any_Plenty_7013 - 10 hours
|
|Why you talking about other religions? You scared to criticise Islam ?
|u/HovercraftHumble8007 - 7 hours
|
|I'm not Indian and I'm not from India. You're all too special
|whatever religion you subscribe to. Good luck.
|u/Any_Plenty_7013 - 7 hours
|
|I’m literally an atheist…
|u/HovercraftHumble8007 - 3 hours
|
|Here, no one cares
|u/BrandeX - 7 hours
|
|No one forces anyone to become a Buddhist.
|u/HovercraftHumble8007 - 3 hours
|
|If you think Buddhism is squeky clean well they did a good job
|Genocide in Myanmar
|u/BrandeX - 3 hours
|
|I don't like bringing out the "No True Scotsman", but... >The
|“first precept” of Buddhist thought, Alejandro Chavez-Segura,
|notes, is “no killing.” So how can Buddhism be used to justify
|violence in Myanmar and Sri Lanka? It can’t be, he argues, stating
|that those who “interpret the Buddhadharma to justify the
|perpetuation of suffering through violence and war” shouldn’t be
|regarded as Buddhists https://daily.jstor.org/how-is-buddhism-
|being-used-to-justify-violence-in-myanmar/?form=MG0AV3
|u/YoshiTheDog420 - 12 hours
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|More children lost in the forrest.
|u/GreenBasi - 6 hours
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|Bruh I was this close to taking admission in this so called uni . Thank
|God my intuition said no and I took it seriously
|u/SerbianMasturbater - 14 hours
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|Coming to a town near you.
|u/sleepyhead_420 - 19 hours
|
|It is a duty for every muslims to try to convert non-muslims. They call
|it 'invitation' or 'dawat'. It can be peaceful, but if you believe in
|Islam - you should try to convert your non-muslim neighbor.
|u/Necessary-Reading605 - 18 hours
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|Wait until you hear what happens if you leave islam…
|u/sleepyhead_420 - 15 hours
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|They won't tell you that when trying to convert.
|u/Hrit33 - 19 hours
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|"well you can believe in our god or you can see if your God exists
|for real right now" 💀 /s
|u/zarch747 - 6 hours
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|Sura 3 ayat 151 Sura 33 ayat 61
|u/yousuckatlife90 - 19 hours
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|I was in shipping at a job back in 2016 and was training the new guy
|who is from Morocco. He is a muslim and was very smart. He taught
|school in Paris before coming to America and working in a warehouse.
|Very friendly to me but man he really pushed for me to become muslim
|as well. Like every day.
|u/MosesOnAcid - 18 hours
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|Should have pulled the uno reverse card on him and try everyday to
|convert him to christianity.
|u/RollingMeteors - 16 hours
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|¿how should we troll these homosapiens? We’ll
|park this thing over Mecca and fly down in a Pegasus
|u/Hungry-Kale600 - 17 hours
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|Or just tell him there's no god and stop believing in the
|imaginary man in the sky
|u/OscarGrey - 11 hours
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|I wonder if the imam at the mosque of a pretty smalltown/redneck
|area where I live tells the worshippers to not do this. This would
|NOT end well around where I live.
|u/yousuckatlife90 - 11 hours
|
|Eh i didnt let it bother me. Im not against religion, but im not a
|religious guy. Ill go to a church if offered to, but i just dont
|feel a need to go on my own. I get why, but i dont like people
|pushing their religion on me. Ill just listen to their speech and
|opinions and politely say "thats interesting, but im not a
|religious person." Thats all. The coworker i was talking about was
|very nice to everyone and i was happy to call him a friend. The
|boss was a dick and fired him because his wife ended up in a
|hospital and he had to leave work a couple hours early.
|u/14sierra - 19 hours
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|Does "the invitation" usually come with the threat of rape or acid
|attack like they mentioned in the article?
|u/Ognius - 18 hours
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|Usually yeah
|u/Mediocre-Status-2304 - 16 hours
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|Tbh that's usually just South Asian culture. Countries in that
|region are notorious for acid attacks for a wide variety of reasons.
|u/OscarGrey - 11 hours
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|Could this be a part of the reason why there's so much issues with
|integrating more religious and impoverished Muslim demographics in
|Europe? Resentment from knowing that they live surrounded by people
|that would have a negative reaction to dawat?
|u/MosesOnAcid - 18 hours
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|So muslins shouldn't get mad when christians try to convert them,
|cause it is the same duty... They are accepting of other religions
|doing the same as them... right?
|u/DormeDwayne - 19 hours
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|We are?
|u/Justarandomfan99 - 2 hours
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|Islam doesn't even mean religion in quran. Just "submission to God".
|Jews and Christians are in fact never called to convert to "Islam" but
|apply their own scripture. Nothing suggests it's muslims' duty to
|"convert". Quran only states it was the prophet's duty to convey the
|message and ask them to believe in God. If they don't, then the
|prophet's only duty is to deliver: "But if they turn away - then We
|have not sent you as a guardian over them. Your duty is only to convey
|[the message]. And indeed, when We let man taste mercy from Us, he
|rejoices in it; but if evil afflicts him for what his hands have put
|forth, then indeed, man is ungrateful." It's clear that the prophet
|isn't supposed to coerce anyone to believe but simply to deliver the
|message. No verse implies that the same duty applies to the rest of
|the muslims
|u/bestestopinion - 6 hours
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|But Islamaphobia
|u/StrainProfessional44 - 4 hours
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|This university is the capital of INDIA!!! But according to reddit
|muslims are the victims there. The Hindu nationalists are killing all
|minorities. Surely all the experts on reddit aren't wrong /s
|u/Comfortable_Pop8543 - 12 hours
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|You would think that the fence sitters would jump at the chance to join
|a progressive all inclusive and humanitarian religion such as Islam.
|u/Rushmore9 - 3 hours
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|Shocking
|u/idkwhotfmeiz - 9 hours
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|Who would’ve thought
|u/thefinalbossof - 6 hours
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|You can’t make people be dumb.
|u/avax96 - 5 hours
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|Surprise Surprise
|u/codlyoko1045 - 3 hours
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|☕️
|u/AsleepHumor-WB - 9 hours
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|And this.. https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedstatesofindia/s/LLaPLObSQv
|u/VladThePollenInhaler - 17 hours
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|I really wish people would stop believing in religion. Seriously, it’s
|all a lie. Live your life and prepare for nothingness by making the best
|of your days. I fucking hate religion. Especially the top 3.
|u/MarkandMajer - 10 hours
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|Christianity, Islam and Hinduism?
|u/Anjohi - 16 hours
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|Religion goes hand-in-hand with atrocities against humanity. For
|thousands of years. And it’s all over some books with bullshit and fairy
|tales but for some reason idiots choose to make this their entire
|existence.
|u/rvbeachguy - 14 hours
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|Religion is a mental health issue
|u/FatBirdsMakeEasyPrey - 54 minutes
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|Imagine giving away a huge chunk of your land for a separate homeland
|for muslims(Pakistan+Bangladesh) and still get persecuted in the land
|that is left for the non muslims(India). India today has as many
|muslims as Pakistan if not more, more mosques than all of the Middle
|East combined. Meanwhile non muslims in Pakistan have been driven to
|extinction. The Partition was not done properly. Population exchange
|should have been a must, cuz with rapidly falling non muslim birth rate,
|muslims will ask for another Pakistan or worse take over India 50-100
|years down the line since demographics is destiny.
|u/CircuitBurnout - 52 minutes
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|No alcohol? No thanks!
|u/Correct-Addition1487 - 26 minutes
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|This is what happens when you're stuck in the 1200s
|u/CarlAndersson1987 - 24 minutes
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|That's literally what's been happening since forever. Only leftists are
|surprised.
|u/Nemesiskillcam - 15 hours
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|Religion in general is such a blight on this planet, if there was not
|religion, our path as humans would have been so different, we'd probably
|be interplanetary explorers by now.
|u/edcross - 6 hours
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|Brigham young university encourages you to join the lds church however
|they will expel, evict and if they can, fire you if you convert from
|mormonism to anything else. Religion poisons everything
|u/C0R0NA_CHAN - 5 hours
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|That's the difference y'all don't understand. Brigham university will
|fire you. Is*am unis will fire you with their gun or behead you. P.S:
|I agree with what you said but my point was the peaceful religion is
|the cancer and needs to be dealt with quickly
|u/Winter_Location_5839 - 19 hours
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|The same thing happened to me growing up in the south but it was for
|Christianity
|u/Trash_b1rd - 18 hours
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|You were threatened with rape and acid attacks if you didn’t convert?
|Any news articles on this?
|u/Kannigget - 19 hours
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|I find it interesting that the far left gets totally outraged when
|Christian extremists do this but don't care when Muslim extremists do
|it.
|u/Humans_will_be_gone - 19 hours
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|Horseshoe phenomenon
|u/galtpunk67 - 19 hours
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|dude, gtfooh. the 'far left' is atheist.
|u/Kannigget - 18 hours
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|They claim to be, but they align themselves with Islamic
|extremists who are on the far right. It's complete madness. They
|act against what they claim to believe in.
|u/galtpunk67 - 18 hours
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|fggn nonsense. youre making shit up. political affiliation
|of religion is right wing. always has been, always will be.
|personal freedom to practice any abrahamic cults dogma is a
|human right. as laid out by the human rights charter of 1943.
|this is what 'far left' condones... not extremist cultists.
|there are no 'far left' religions.
|u/Trash_b1rd - 18 hours
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|Who is aligning themselves with Palestine and threading
|university leaders and others over it?
|u/Kannigget - 18 hours
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|It sounds like you don't understand anything I'm talking
|about. The far left literally aligned itself with far right
|Islamic extremists and their mission to destroy the West and
|get rid of non-Muslims. The far left betrayed its own values.
|u/swallowthem - 18 hours
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|Source please
|u/entropyrun - 16 hours
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|Far left hate religion when they have total control over state.
|Other wise they just hate the religion with most adherents
|u/underhelmed - 17 hours
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|Things that didn’t happen for 200
|u/Gatholig-Criostach - 12 hours
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|>growing up in the south South of where? Ireland? England? Eritrea?
|Mozambique? The South Pole?
|u/Sea-Process5479 - 1 hour
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|You were raped and had acid thrown on you for not converting to
|Christianity? I call bullshit
|u/1egg_4u - 13 hours
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|Regardless of how people feel about Islam this is rage bait from a troll
|account. The username is straight up Iman Killer. Yall need to start
|scraping the surface before you swallow the bait. The sheer amount of
|fucked up bigotry coming from CLEARLY bot accounts does not bode well
|for this website.
|u/facetiousenigma - 4 hours
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|I was wondering why the consensus of comments were hateful of Islam.
|then I saw which sub this is.
|u/random-name-3522 - 16 hours
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|I have never heard of this newspaper and what they write does not match
|my experience with students and lecturers from this particular
|university. Those that I had studied with were comparatively secular
|and more open to discussions, (perhaps also more leaning towards
|Congress). Generally, they took a more neutral stance in comparison to
|those students and professors more close to the BJP and RSS. Also, I
|have never heard of this specific news site, it is certainly not one of
|the big newspapers or news agencies from India. Nevertheless, I am well
|aware of the presence of religious fundamentalism in India (both Hindu
|and Muslim) and the occasional communal violence that follows. Could
|someone who still lives in India explain what is going on?
|u/bhairavp - 7 hours
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|There are numerous Indian sources for this. India claims to be a
|secular state, but there literally are 2 sets of laws, one for Muslims
|and one for the rest. We are trying to get a uniform civil code up and
|running, but it is facing opposition, for obvious reasons. Look up
|succession rights on India for example.. Hindu women are entitled to
|equal shares of their parents' properties in absence of wills, Muslim
|women are not.
|u/C0R0NA_CHAN - 5 hours
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|India is dead and I don't see it improving. Peaceful religion will
|takeover and kill christians and Hindus and it'll become like
|Pakistan. Mark my words. Europe still has time if they agree to see
|the world and see what's happening in india and acknowledge that
|peaceful religion is the problem. Not the race or gender. It's that
|cancer religion
|u/C0R0NA_CHAN - 5 hours
|
|The people who you studied with who support congress only do so
|because they hate "hindus" imagine Dems or republicans in USA openly
|saying Christians are bad and they aren't their priority! That's
|exactly what congress has done in that country. Read up more sources
|before commenting and stop listening to liberal media. If you notice,
|Liberals in any country are ALWAYS pro Hamas, pro terrorists, pro
|pakistan, Syria, Iraq
|u/AnotherHappenstance - 5 hours
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|How are people falling for this fake site? Look at the language - it's
|clearly bullshit. Not even a popular news site in India, looks ai.
|u/C0R0NA_CHAN - 5 hours
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|Just like how minorities in pakistan and Bangladesh have diminished?
|That is also fake right? Just like how YOUR religion has caused most
|terrorism in the entire world. That's also fake right? Fuck off
|u/boozcruise21 - 16 hours
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|No way. This sounds like Maga lies.
|u/Gatholig-Criostach - 12 hours
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|The United States isn’t the be all and end all of the entire globe
|bro, Donald Trump and MAGA don’t control the interactions and daily
|lives of university students in New Delhi India lol.
|u/C0R0NA_CHAN - 5 hours
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|Stfu. Can't hear you anyways bro remove that terrorist's meat from
|your mouth and then speak.
|u/Frequent_Skill5723 - 16 hours
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|So just like what happens to non-Christians at West Point. We're so
|alike, why can't we all just get along?
|u/C0R0NA_CHAN - 5 hours
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|Ah yes. Minorities population has INCREASED in west and in india
|whereas in islamic countries like Bangladesh and Pakistan and
|Afghanistan it has went nearly to 0. Hmm sure buddy Christians are
|the problem right?
|u/Gatholig-Criostach - 12 hours
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|What’s West Point?
|