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|u/sueha - 23 hours
|
|I'm more surprised about how high that global average is
|u/red__iter__ - 22 hours
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|I'm thinking if the global average included that 402tbps.
|u/Mr_YUP - 22 hours
|
|That one guy just throws off the curve
|u/Lietenantdan - 19 hours
|
|Download Georg
|u/KeiranG19 - 18 hours
|
|Always downloading pictures of spiders. Refuses to explain why.
|u/gitartruls01 - 11 hours
|
|I feel like an explanation would be pretty redundant
|u/RainbowNugget24 - 19 hours
|
|Me with 3MB/s download and 0.5MB/s upload And it pay $80/month
|for this shit
|u/georgesclemenceau - 17 hours
|
|Damn I would be happy with 9 MB/S I am at 1 MB/S
|u/eeeponthemove - 19 hours
|
|If a study was done on this, the most extreme parts of standard
|deviation would be removed from the sample.
|u/Cledd2 - 23 hours
|
|surely that has to include corporate uses like datacenters and stock
|exchanges, because no way that's the average for consumers.
|u/jamesckelsall - 22 hours
|
|>no way that's the average for consumers. Based on some back-of-a-
|napkin maths, I think it might be fairly accurate. If about 1 in 12
|people globally have access to gigabit, and the rest have access to
|an average of 10Mbps (that average would include people with no
|connection at all), the global average would work out at 92.5Mbps,
|which matches what's quoted in the OP. Is 10Mbps a reasonable
|estimate for the average of those who don't have access to gigabit?
|I'd guess, for those who have any sub-gigabit access, that the
|average is probably somewhere in the 10-50Mbps range, but we also
|have to consider people who have no access at all, which brings it
|down. I think 10Mbps is a reasonable estimate. Is one in 12 a
|reasonable estimate for the number of people who have access to
|1Gbps? It's about 600m-700m people globally. The USA alone has 1Gbps
|availability for approximately 90% of households (not necessarily
|equivalent to 90% of the population, but in the right ballpark).
|Multiple other countries have it available for 10s of millions. I
|think 600m-700m people having access to 1Gbps seems reasonable
|globally. There's also a possibility that it's an outdated under-
|estimate. [Some estimates](https://gigabitmonitor.com/-/tPopulation)
|give global 1Gbps availability as closer to 1 in 5-6. If we take
|the 19% figure in the estimate above, the average speed available to
|the entire population of earth is 190Mbps even if we presume
|everyone else gets 0Mbps (no connection).
|u/Impressive_Change593 - 21 hours
|
|there's some countries that have stupidly fast fiber to the home
|which bumps the number up as well
|u/jamesckelsall - 21 hours
|
|Countries such as Singapore that have insanely high speeds are
|also generally small populations (less than 0.1% of the global
|population), so their impact is likely to be fairly minor.
|Indeed, Singapore's national average is just under 300Mbps,
|which isn't that far above the 190Mbps global estimate (and that
|global estimate presumes anyone with sub-1Gbps has no connection
|at all). On a global scale, I judged the percentage of the
|population with access to speeds significantly *over* 1Gbps to
|be so small that it wouldn't substantially affect the magnitude
|of the average.
|u/Cledd2 - 14 hours
|
|so from what i understand it's based on the *connection* rather
|than what people are actually paying for? so for example the
|cable going into my home allows for 2gb internet, but my
|subscription is for 'only' 200mb, i would still count as someone
|with a 2gb connection. seems like that makes more sense
|u/jamesckelsall - 14 hours
|
|It's not even that - those statistics are based on whether or
|not a commercial provider *offers* a gigabit service to your
|property, even if they'd need to install a new cable to actually
|provide that service. It's basically equivalent to asking the
|question "if you wanted gigabit, could you get it?". It's not a
|perfect measure, but it does the job reasonably well.
|u/ArtOfWarfare - 10 hours
|
|Starlink is ~global and offers over 100mbs, so that’s not
|being properly factored in if that’s how they’re calculating
|it, which wouldn’t make sense anyways because Starlink can’t
|simultaneously deliver those speeds to everyone in the world.
|Another way what you’re saying doesn’t exactly make sense…
|pretty sure anywhere in the world where people live, you can
|pay to have wires put in for gigabit internet. I’d imagine
|that it might counter intuitively actually be cheaper for some
|poor areas, where you can take advantage of much lower wages
|to have a lot more hardware installed.
|u/jamesckelsall - 9 hours
|
|"It's available if you seek it out and have it specifically
|installed to your property at substantial cost" is not the
|same as "it's actively offered in your area with the
|majority of the hardware already in place, and only the
|final section of cable needs to be installed when you want
|the service".
|u/Consistent_Bee3478 - 21 hours
|
|It’s because they are using average when median would be needed.
|If you have 9 people with 1mbut and one person with gbit, the
|average becomes 100 Mbit. Whereas the median correctly
|representing actual access would be 1. Averages for bandwidth
|is what governments use to claim broadband is very good and
|accessible. Because a few individuals on gbit completely average
|away 10 people with dial up speeds making it look like the country
|has a nice 100 mbit ‘average’ Whereas by far the majority of
|people would even be able to watch Netflix
|u/f3ydr4uth4 - 22 hours
|
|In the U.K. 1gb connections are not unusual.
|u/iamnotexactlywhite - 3 hours
|
|it is definitely close to reality though. even my grandma’s house
|has 1Gbps connection in a village 30km from the nearest town
|u/huupoke12 - 22 hours
|
|Just a median vs average thing. For example, if 9 people have a 10
|Mbps connection and 1 person has a 1000 Mbps connection, the average
|would be 109 Mbps. Meanwhile the median would be 10 Mbps.
|u/allnamesbeentaken - 19 hours
|
|I just looked it up, it says 93.93 Mbps per second is the median
|global speed for fixed broadband connections I'm fucking shocked
|u/Super_XIII - 16 hours
|
|If you are in the US, we think of ourselves as first class but our
|internet sucks here for the vast majority because we’ve let
|monopolies run rampant. Meanwhile pretty much every Asian country
|including India has blazing fast fiber internet for the majority
|of their population, really bringing up the global average.
|u/HolyLiaison - 14 hours
|
|Greatly depends on your state, and if you live in the boonies or
|not. I live in the suburbs of Minneapolis (about 30 minute
|drive) and we have up to 7gig home fiber here, along with the
|typical Cable options.
|u/DavidRandom - 12 hours
|
|If you want to feel better about our internet speeds, go ask an
|Australian about their internet experience.
|u/wgpjr - 9 hours
|
|All I get is elevator music, waiting on the line, on hold all
|the time
|u/bruzie - 7 hours
|
|> we think of ourselves as first class but our internet sucks
|here for the vast majority I certainly noticed this yesterday
|with all the bitching about buffering during the fight. Didn't
|have many issues here in NZ, apart from a drop of quality in the
|main event. Can't imagine how the bitrate would have been
|affected if there was some action in that fight.
|u/Redmoxx - 4 hours
|
|I think USA and Australia are very shortchanged when it comes to
|internet. Here in India, me and 3 family members Combined pay
|₹2,500 a month (less than 30 dollars, but of course in terms of
|PPP it feels more like 100 dollars to us). We get 200Mbps
|unlimited fiber at home, and a shared 200GB between our phones
|on 5G, and it carries over to the next month. It basically feels
|like limitless, fast internet all the time, home or outside.
|u/PriorWriter3041 - 2 hours
|
|Same in Germany lol. Hopefully we get fiber at some point. They
|laid the cables over two years ago in my street and it still
|isn't connected...
|u/Triangle1619 - 13 hours
|
|US has almost double the median internet speed of India (58 vs
|90). I’ve had 1GB for the last 4 years, and thanks to starlink
|(made by evil US “monopoly”) high speed internet has never been
|more available across the planet.
|u/Ameisen - 11 hours
|
|/r/neoliberal Why am I not surprised?
|u/DavidBrooker - 11 hours
|
|Is that for household connections, or just broadband connections
|generally (eg, all end-user connections)? Like, at my university,
|every hard-wired computer in the place - which is tens of
|thousands - has a gigabit connection. I'm sure many institutional
|internet customers are similar.
|u/UncleMojoFilter - 10 hours
|
|That’s the connection speed to the local network though, not
|necessarily the Internet.
|u/DavidBrooker - 10 hours
|
|I'm talking about the connection speed to the Internet, not
|the local network. End users have symmetric 1Gbit to every
|workstation. Regarding the local network, although many
|offices are still gigabit, many (including essentially all
|offices built or renovated in the last decade) support 10Gbit
|and many lab spaces are of course much faster still.
|u/mata_dan - 5 hours
|
|Likely to a University run/participated WAN at blazing fast
|speeds then if any routes go out of there they will have more
|ordinary rates/QoS/contention.
|u/Consistent_Bee3478 - 21 hours
|
|Yep. Using average here is utterly bullshit. Especially for
|something like here where going from 100 MBit to 1000mbit barely
|makes any difference, but going from 1 Mbit to 100 is going from
|unuseable to perfectly good. So governments always live to publish
|average bandwidth, because those numbers can be made to look nice by
|only providing a few central areas with really really fast internet,
|while the rest of the country is waiting for even 20mbits 10 years
|later.
|u/gatoaffogato - 18 hours
|
|Median is an average. Global internet speeds are very unlikely to
|be normally distributed, so the mean will definitely be skewed.
|u/SureKnowledge3593 - 10 hours
|
|For reference, median is not an average. That would literally be
|the mean, another word you used as if you seem to understand it.
|u/gatoaffogato - 10 hours
|
|For reference, median is an average. As are mean and mode. An
|average refers to measures of central tendency. It gets
|confusing, as many folks (particularly those who topped out at
|high school math) incorrectly use average to solely refer to
|mean “Mean, median, and mode are three kinds of “averages”.
|There are many “averages” in statistics, but these are, I
|think, the three most common, and are certainly the three you
|are most likely to encounter in your pre-statistics courses,
|if the topic comes up at all.”
|https://www.purplemath.com/modules/meanmode.htm
|r/confidentlyincorrect lol
|u/SureKnowledge3593 - 10 hours
|
|I’m sorry I’m literally in a PhD level statistics course
|atm, where they’re very careful to stress that this is a
|common mistake many amateurs make due to poor education from
|sites like “purple math”. Just go to the Wikipedia dude,
|it’s that simple I’m sorry.
|https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median Also went to
|r/confidentlyincorrect and the first post that pops up is so
|ironic it’s honestly, ironic
|u/gatoaffogato - 9 hours
|
|Good for you for taking a PhD level course, bud! Maybe
|some day you can actually earn a PhD in quantitative
|methods like me 🤷♀️ Sounds like maybe you should get
|back to your homework instead of televising your ignorance
|- I’m sure your professor (and your GPA) would be
|thankful. Here’s the European Union Statistics Bureau.
|Or is that also a “poor education website”? “**The
|average is the statistical summary, in one value, of a
|group of numbers. There are three main types of
|averages:** the mean (the sum or product of the values of
|a group of numbers divided by how many numbers there are
|in the group); the median (the middle value of a group of
|numbers); the mode or modus (the most common value of a
|group of numbers).”
|https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.p
|hp?title=Glossary:Average#:~:text=The%20average%20is%20the
|%20statistical,of%20a%20group%20of%20numbers).
|u/SureKnowledge3593 - 9 hours
|
|Thank you! It is very difficult to complete an American
|PhD, Europe seems to have much more lax standards…
|Unfortunately, they’ve listed 3 or more types of
|“averages” which is defeating to the purpose. The whole
|point you see, is that we’re not in a statistics class
|here. While you and I are *obviously* geniuses in our
|respective field, the general public uses the term
|“average” interchangeably with the “mean” value. Thus,
|why we’re always told to be careful in our write-ups to
|avoid the very mistake you seem to have made! I know it
|can be tempted to get technical and pedantic at times,
|especially if you have a PhD, but you’ll miss the
|mathematical and statistical significance of what you’re
|saying to an audience. I’ve included the definitions for
|you below, from the “Oxford Learner’s Dictionary” since
|you still seem to need some helpful education! https://
|www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/american_e
|nglish/median_1 https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.
|com/definition/english/median_2
|u/gatoaffogato - 9 hours
|
|Gotta love the mix of condescension and utter
|ignorance. And now moving the goal posts because
|you’re objectively wrong and are too immature to admit
|it? That’s just kinda pathetic :/ (I am American,
|and PhD’s are indeed often harder over here, but nice
|try at an insult lol). Have a good one, mate, and
|genuinely hope you’re not this insufferable in person.
|And good luck with the course - maybe those children’s
|definitions will come in helpful!
|u/ihatebamboo - 8 hours
|
|Worst thing I’ve ever read
|u/Frajzier - 9 hours
|
|I'm beginning to understand how the orange clown got
|elected.
|u/Frajzier - 9 hours
|
|Did you read the wiki entry you posted? It should have
|been simple to understand. But here I can link another one
|for you too. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average
|u/Eastrider1006 - 17 hours
|
|it is a median though. large and populated parts of Europe and
|Asia have insane speeds
|u/Admirable-Lecture255 - 10 hours
|
|Brah we grew up with 56k internet. Not usable?
|u/Programmdude - 6 hours
|
|Not usable anymore with what people do with the internet. Video
|streaming, hell, even audio streaming, isn't possible with 56K.
|Gaming is barely possible, and web browsing is no longer
|possible due to website bloat.
|u/Misery_Division - 18 hours
|
|Yeah but it's 93Mbps, megabits per second. You got 8 megabits (Mb) for
|1 megabyte (MB), so in reality the average speed is about 11.5
|megabytes per second, typed out as MB/s.
|u/myaltaccount333 - 15 hours
|
|That's kind of irrelevant as everyone knows their internet speed as
|Mb because that's what's advertised and what shows when you download
|something. It's useful to know, but not really usable in this
|discussion
|u/FailedTheSave - 18 hours
|
|I feel like Kenny in the We're The Millers meme. "You guys are getting
|93mbps?"
|u/_Hexer - 16 hours
|
|Same here. But when you look at the statistics: Country - Speed in
|Mbit/s (Accessibility) Singapur - 305 (76%) UAE - 299 (100%) Hong
|Kong - 285 (?) Chile - 273 (70%) USA - 246 (89%) 14 countries
|reach over 200, Japan is Close with 199 (93%) Surprisingly (but not
|really) Germany is in place 57 with 91,6 (90%) lower than world
|average, while having access for almost every home. Sources:
|[access](https://www.destatis.de/EN/Themes/Countries-
|Regions/International-Statistics/Data-
|Topic/Tables/BasicData_Internet.html) [speed](https://de.statista.com/
|statistik/daten/studie/224924/umfrage/internet-
|verbindungsgeschwindigkeit-in-ausgewaehlten-weltweiten-laendern/)
|u/beatenmeat - 21 hours
|
|I honestly could never go back to slow internet. Every time I visit my
|family I die a little inside when it takes ages to load even basic
|videos.
|u/concentrated-amazing - 19 hours
|
|Me too. My internet is 15-25Mbps.
|u/camtliving - 19 hours
|
|American internet sucks. I just moved out of the US and the highest
|internet plan i had available was 500MB. I live in the boonies in
|Brazil and can get 2GB and its only ~25USD.
|u/Ninja_rooster - 18 hours
|
|That could also be due to the US having older infrastructure that
|hasn’t been updated, with high usage, and rural Brazil having a
|fresh run of fiber with low usage.
|u/Admirable-Lecture255 - 10 hours
|
|100% this. Laying fiber in areas that ave been developed for 30
|40 100 plus years is a huge under taking. Laying fiber in an area
|that hasn't been touched not so much
|u/helican - 23 hours
|
|In a highly controlled lab enviroment, not the "real world". Still cool
|though.
|u/UnacceptableUse - 23 hours
|
|Can that even count as "Internet" speed?
|u/futuranth - 23 hours
|
|I guess so, if they're testing with the Internet Protocol
|u/Weak_Bowl_8129 - 22 hours
|
|That's probably what it means, but realistically quite different
|from what most people would consider "internet speed". I have a
|100mbps internet connection despite having 1gbps between my laptop
|and PC. Edit: they used 50km of commercially available fiber
|optics, but very custom hardware on both ends
|u/RexDraco - 15 hours
|
|It is internet technology so yes. Internet isn't a place, it is a
|technology
|u/UnacceptableUse - 12 hours
|
|But if I say my Internet speed is gigabit I'd mean the speed which
|my ISP connection allows, not the maximum speed between my NIC and
|my router
|u/RexDraco - 8 hours
|
|Sure, but casual speak isn't always relevant. You don't actually
|have to have an isp to be connected to the internet. Maybe as a
|lowly consumer, sure, but isp isn't relevant with the
|technology. Internet and world wide web is, by the way, not
|synonymous. I can be on the internet but not be on the world
|wide web, but the world wide web cannot be without internet.
|I2p, for example, is not on the world wide web in spite being a
|form of internet.
|u/jingqian9145 - 19 hours
|
|I’m a network and wireless engineer And testing for theoretical max
|is fun but utterly pointless in real life dev Example is 802.11AX max
|speed for WiFi transmission is 3.5 gpbs per radio But would need a
|device with enough radios to handle all of the data streams for it and
|under lab conditions only. Edit: Meant to say 3.5 gpbs per radio,
|you would have to find a device that has a capable radio first. In a
|4x4 Radio Config, it would be a max near 14 gpbs. They you have
|another issue with the switching layer in between LANs and than
|routing layer when communicating across different Subnets or networks
|in general.
|u/MasterBlazx - 18 hours
|
|Yeah, transferring data itself isn’t the bottleneck. The bottleneck
|lies in the interfaces that receive and process it. Fiber optics can
|transfer data at speeds close to the speed of light, but interfaces
|like Ethernet ports have maximum data rate limits. Endpoints also
|need to handle things like decoding, error checking, routing, and a
|shit ton of other processes that can’t keep up with those fast
|speeds.
|u/jingqian9145 - 17 hours
|
|Yup! With networking you are handicap by your slowest link. Even
|if you solve all of your backbone, and achieve the theoretical max
|speed, than you have to deal with client device. At 14gbps speed
|per AP, the only useful venue is for stadium level deployment or
|public areas because of the high density aspect not because you
|need people to stream 1gbs on to their device. People vastly over
|estimate how much data is needed for day to day operations. I run
|enterprise networks with 500-600 users daily and all of their Corp
|device, IOT, BYOD, etc etc and my APs aren’t even stressed or near
|capacity. Of course we can keep upgrading infra to support higher
|speed and density but from a cost perspective it’s diminishing
|return and almost wasteful to design it for maximum speed
|u/HeyImGilly - 18 hours
|
|And then at the very end, there’s the memory for all that data to
|be stored.
|u/Yodiddlyyo - 14 hours
|
|Oh man, didn't even think of that. What good is Tbps if the
|fastest drive we have is 14Gbs
|u/RecsRelevantDocs - 9 hours
|
|> if the fastest drive we have is 14Gbs Is that the actu
|fastest? That's still pretty wild tbh
|u/Floppie7th - 19 hours
|
|Yeah, that isn't "Internet speed" it's "network speed"
|u/Different-Horror-581 - 16 hours
|
|Sometimes just doing the thing is the important part. At least now
|there is a benchmark for comparison.
|u/Desert-Noir - 13 hours
|
|Thanks captain obvious, consumer flash memory can’t write at those
|speeds. Don’t understand why this comment was even necessary.
|u/H_Lunulata - 23 hours
|
|Typical container ship can carry \~20000 T Typical 128 GB Micro SD
|card: \~250 mg 20000T / 250 mg = 80 billion SD cards \* 128 GB = 10
|sextillion bytes = 80 sextillion bits Ship from Hong Kong to San
|Francisco takes about 450 hours. This equates to a bit rate of about
|50 petabits per second, but high latency.
|u/sopha27 - 23 hours
|
|Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes
|hurtling down the highway. It's legit, called sneakernet
|u/AyrA_ch - 21 hours
|
|[Or IPoAC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers?uses
|kin=vector)
|u/stealth550 - 19 hours
|
|Now with QoS!
|u/OSRSmemester - 19 hours
|
|What does a Queen of Spades have to do with pigeons parceling
|packets?
|u/Weak_Bowl_8129 - 22 hours
|
|IIRC Google still uses trucks to send long term backups across the US
|u/doomgiver98 - 21 hours
|
|AWS and Azure have it as a service if you need to download
|petabytes.
|u/SEND-MARS-ROVER-PICS - 16 hours
|
|The data (5 petabytes) used to produce the first images of a black
|hole was saved on hard drives for transport to the data centres
|involved. The hard drives weighed about a thousand pounds.
|https://www.inverse.com/science/54833-m87-black-hole-photo-data-
|storage-feat
|u/Inferno908 - 23 hours
|
|Well consider now there’s 2TB cards, so 800 petabits
|u/Less_Party - 23 hours
|
|At $250 a pop that works out to a very reasonable 20 trillion USD.
|u/H_Lunulata - 22 hours
|
|That's why I went with much cheaper 128 GB... makes the same point
|for only $1.2T USD at retail prices. It's not cheap, just fast :)
|But you could equal or beat that 402 Tbps using this method for
|$1.2B USD
|u/Kenny_log_n_s - 21 hours
|
|You would need to include the time it takes to uninstall, load,
|unload, and install 80 billion SD cards though. Say you have 10,000
|hands, that can each deal with 1 SD card per second 80B cards / 10k =
|8M seconds, multiple by 4 for the full uninstall, load, unload,
|install process = 32M seconds With the 450 hour shipping time, that
|gives you 2.4 petabits per second. But there's labor costs
|associated: In San Francisco: 4444 hours * 10000 people * minimum
|wage of $18.67 = $829,000,400 USD In Hong Kong: 4444 hours * 10000
|people * minimum wage of HK$40 = HK$1,700,000,000 = $228,000,000 USD
|So just about a billion USD to transport that data. (Plus the
|relatively insignificant cost of shipping) Not to mention the cost of
|80 billion SD cards, which are a poor choice for reliable data
|storage.
|u/SpellingIsAhful - 18 hours
|
|Will then we have to consider how long it took this lab to set up
|their rig
|u/ChartreuseBison - 17 hours
|
|No because that's just installation. Once set up, the data still
|gets from one computer to another in a few milliseconds.
|u/Kenny_log_n_s - 17 hours
|
|That's infras problem I'm just the transmission guy
|u/H_Lunulata - 13 hours
|
|As noted above, that extra time still only drops the rate to 12x as
|fast as the headline speed.
|u/Keldazar - 12 hours
|
|*Amazon AI has confirmed your order for '128GB SD Card -- Qty:
|80,000,000,000.' Thank you for choosing Amazon, have a nice day.*
|u/Hiraethetical - 19 hours
|
|Nah, you have to factor in loading/unloading of all of the containers
|and install of all the SD cards. You're more than doubling that 450
|for sure.
|u/H_Lunulata - 13 hours
|
|Someone else did all the math for the laoding etc. That came out to
|about 4500 hours. So all in, it's about 5 petabits per second,
|which is still 12x faster than that speed record.
|u/glytxh - 13 hours
|
|The data recorded by the disparate telescopes in the Event Horizon
|project attempting to image black holes through interferometry
|literally shipped their drives to a central location for processing
|Absurd levels of data. Some of the LHC detectors also record on tape,
|I believe. Big data is weird.
|u/Wheybrotons - 19 hours
|
|Now add in the time it takes to manually attach each storage device to
|a server/computer👍
|u/Aphemia1 - 15 hours
|
|Try 200 000 tons for you typical 20 000 TEU container ship.
|u/clouds_are_lies - 23 hours
|
|The country def isn’t Australia.
|u/rawker86 - 23 hours
|
|Right? 93 mbps, Jesus fucking Christ.
|u/Orcwin - 22 hours
|
|Do you mean that's a lot for the top end, or average? Around here
|(NL), 100 Mbit/s would have been top end around 15-20 years ago.
|These days I think the top consumer connection is 8 Gbit/s.
|u/NyanpyreOwO - 22 hours
|
|I’m in Australia, and most people I know have speeds around 25Mbps
|lol
|u/Zenkraft - 22 hours
|
|I just did a fast.com test and got 42Mpbs on fttp in Brisbane.
|It’s the best internet I’ve ever had, better than a lot of
|people I know, and it’s still less than half of the global
|average..
|u/TheOddball7 - 22 hours
|
|Just ran my own speed test out of curiosity. 451Mbps download
|and 324Mbps upload. Well I am Singaporean...
|u/Zenkraft - 22 hours
|
|This is physically painful to hear..
|u/ilovepopalah - 22 hours
|
|haha lucky to get 40 where i live (also aus)
|u/AnimatedJesus - 19 hours
|
|My fttp is 1gbps down and 25mbps up. Also in Australia.
|u/Sirmiglouche - 22 hours
|
|Are you sure it's bits and not bytes?
|u/Zenkraft - 22 hours
|
|Capital M, lowercase b
|u/Sirmiglouche - 22 hours
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|It's insane, I had twice that with copper wires 20 years
|ago lol. Now that I have fttp I actually have more than 8x
|that amount. Well sucjs to live in australia I guess.
|u/rawker86 - 22 hours
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|Ahem, twenty *six*.
|u/Orcwin - 22 hours
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|Well, that's plenty for most uses anyway. I'm on a 750Mbit/s
|connection myself, but I rarely use that much bandwidth. The 8
|Gbit connections seem silly, I have no idea what you'd need all
|that for at home.
|u/ediblehunt - 22 hours
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|It’s fine until you want to download a modern game and
|literally have to leave it overnight to be able to play.
|Upgrading to 500mb+ is really nice but beyond that it seems
|pointless to me.
|u/aaaaaaaa1273 - 14 hours
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|I wish, low 50s is the highest I’ve seen mine, I live in the middle
|of nowhere UK
|u/Sweet-Rayla - 23 hours
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|Romania might be tho /s
|u/agrumpybear - 23 hours
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|I would kill just for that average
|u/OakParkCemetary - 23 hours
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|But what devices are capable of handling that speed? I'm sure your
|average laptop/pc/smartphone aren't exactly equipped for that
|u/jutviark96 - 23 hours
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|You're correct. The fastest M2 SSD on the market right now is the
|Crucial T705. Using that, you would be capped at a download speed of
|101,600mbps (0.1016 terabits) as that is maximum write speed. You'd
|need to increase the write speed by a whopping 402, 000% before being
|able to take full advantage of a 402 terabits connection. Obviously
|I'm not including specialized enterprise SSDs on here as most
|consumers wouldn't even be able to obtain them, plus they are
|astronomically expensive. edit: fixed numbers
|u/cactusplants - 23 hours
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|A massive raid array with 1000s of solid state drives.
|u/magnomagna - 22 hours
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|It's not 4.2 terabits. That's "lame". It's 402 terabits! Forget
|about storage. There's no consumer CPU that can execute driver
|software fast enough to process that many bits per second.
|u/caguru - 19 hours
|
|You could take the persistent storage out the equation and still not
|be able to keep up. The fastest RAM I could find is 64 GB/s write
|speed or 0.51 Tbit/s. 402/.52 = 788 Ram would need to be about
|788x faster than the current RAM or about 78,800% faster. Also your
|math is off. You used 4.2 tbps but its 402 tbps. That SSD would need
|to be 4,100x faster or 410,000%. E: out of curiosity I looked at
|the max bus speed of PCI-E 7.0 (x16) and it has an insane max of
|1.936 Tbit/s which is 3.4x faster than DDR's max of 563.2 Gbit/s.
|Mind blown!
|u/jutviark96 - 6 hours
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|Cheers, fixed numbers! Also, it's 402,000% not 410,000% if we're
|being specific, double checked it just now. (0.1+402000%=402.1).
|Does make me wonder what kind of insane setup they even used to
|test these kind of speeds, hot damn...
|u/DUKITY - 19 hours
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|410,000%
|u/RealIssueToday - 23 hours
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|Probably super computers used by scientists.
|u/iAtty - 22 hours
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|I’m more concerned with what the firewall for that would look like.
|I’d imagine one of those giant ISP racks that Palo Alto or similar
|sell but even that is likely not enough. Likely a stack of hardware
|bonded together. The processing required for real time security on
|that would be mega.
|u/Nervous-Project7107 - 22 hours
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|Considering the average ssd has 300x capacity writes, a 1TB laptop
|would lose all it’s data in less than a second
|u/joelmercer - 20 hours
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|The Tyson fight would still be buffering on Netflix.
|u/Coast_watcher - 20 hours
|
|I was going to say. This post is tailor made after last night lmao
|u/HeartyDogStew - 23 hours
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|Wow! You could download a lot of cars with that kind of speed!
|u/Audience-Electrical - 22 hours
|
|You'd still be limited to the server you're requesting from, right? So
|like if Steam for example caps out at 264 MB/s, that's as fast as it'll
|go. This seems like fastest *Intranet* connection. Still impressive,
|but all other nodes still need to be upgraded for the speeds to really
|be usable on the *Internet*
|u/big_brain_babyyy - 23 hours
|
|how long do they have to hold this speed to count as a record? was it
|possible to have held this speed for a prolonged period of time or does
|it come with wild fluctuations
|u/No_Sea2903 - 23 hours
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|Laughs in German: 93mbps average...
|u/Holeysweaterguy - 23 hours
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|TIL my ‘superfast broadband’ in London is just over half the global
|average speed..
|u/No_Sea2903 - 23 hours
|
|I'm very lucky, I got 1.000 mpbs. But in bigger cities like Munich
|50mbps is also considered "superfast broadband. "
|u/Fwoggie2 - 23 hours
|
|I used to live in Bonn, literally a stones throw from Deutsche
|Telekom's head office. I tried - in 2011 - to get internet from
|them. 2 problems, 1) - they didn't offer any info or customer
|service helplines in English (a showstopper for me given I had
|just arrived in Germany and hadn't had a chance to learn German
|yet) 2) - the best they could offer (despite being well under 500
|metres from their office) was 20mbps. I went with unity media who
|spoke English and offered 100mbps for less than DT wanted for just
|20mpbs.
|u/IPerduMyUsername - 23 hours
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|Damn, I used to get a stable 100 Mbps in central London like 15
|years ago. Strange that it's lagging so far behind. We thankfully
|get a stable 10gbps where I live.
|u/Holeysweaterguy - 23 hours
|
|To be fair I could have the higher speeds if I’d paid for it. I
|just went for a standard package but the speed is the minimum
|possible under that deal. It’s not exactly cheap anyway.
|u/much_thanks - 23 hours
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|I get 1.000 mbits with Telekom.
|u/Thorteris - 23 hours
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|Me an American reading this as 1mbps
|u/No_Sea2903 - 23 hours
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|City?
|u/much_thanks - 22 hours
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|Ostfildern, Baden-Württemberg.
|u/MunnaPhd - 21 hours
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|Getting 1gbps in a town with max 25k population also in Germany
|u/CheeseWheels38 - 23 hours
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|M = million m = one thousandth
|u/Gargomon251 - 20 hours
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|Millibytes is not a measurement of data
|u/CheeseWheels38 - 20 hours
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|I know, but the authors of the article don't seem to know.
|u/Gargomon251 - 20 hours
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|Oh I didn't realize it said "4.3m times"
|u/Fancy_Maximum - 22 hours
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|Global average of 93mbps, how the hell? Just did a speed test, I'm
|around 53mbps download
|u/Fwoggie2 - 21 hours
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|You must be Australian
|u/wadesedgwick - 23 hours
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|I remember reading like 5-10 years ago about a guy who set his
|grandmother up with the best internet in the world, at 1.3 GB/S or
|something like that. Crazy to see where we’re at now
|u/gangstasadvocate - 23 hours
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|When are we gonna get petabyte speeds?
|u/syrefaen - 23 hours
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|You run into hard disk slowing down the hole process already at 1Gigabit
|speeds. Therefore its already stupid fast. Let alone the enquipment like
|switches or routers, support maybe 2.5Gbit. Would get botle necked by
|disk long before. 7000gigabyte per secound nvme disk. Or just write to
|ram to save time.
|u/Bubbaganewsh - 23 hours
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|Are there storage devices that can even come close to those speeds?
|u/LSTNYER - 23 hours
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|An ad would still load faster than the page would
|u/SmackEh - 22 hours
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|With a SATA SSD drive (4,000 mbps write speed), any "internet speed"
|faster than this would be useless. You end up having an internet speed
|that can handle 100,000 of these computers simultaneously without any
|delay (ignoring other limitations).
|u/CurrentlyLucid - 22 hours
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|About what Netflix needed last night, but did not have.
|u/MrFrode - 22 hours
|
|What did they say in the first Jurassic Park movie, Porn finds a way.
|u/PineappleFartMachine - 18 hours
|
|But, how many cars could you download?
|u/Zealousideal7801 - 18 hours
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|That's a lot of p*rn
|u/Iampepeu - 17 hours
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|How much is that in cars?
|u/MorpheusDrinkinga4O - 16 hours
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|And Netflix would still have the courage to accuse you of having a bad
|internet connection when the Mike Tyson fight stream starts to stutter
|and eventually crash.
|u/Ticon_D_Eroga - 16 hours
|
|> 12500 movies This is a pretty useless stat. A 4k remux of
|oppenheimer is the same size as like 50 YIFY encodes of a 90 min romcom
|u/Jaliki55 - 12 hours
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|Almost like Comcast intentionally throttles your down speed to sell
|higher plans.
|u/EnchantedEleganceeee - 23 hours
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|At 402 Tbps, your lag in Black Ops 6 would be so low, you'd win
|gunfights before they even started.
|u/Siilan - 20 hours
|
|Download speed may affect latency, but after a certain point, it
|won't. Your latency is (roughly) the time it takes for the data to
|travel from your pc/console to the server and back. Once your download
|and upload speed is fast enough to send all that data without issue,
|it won't affect your ping. At that point, physical proximity to the
|server you're connecting to is the most important factor. A super fast
|download speed isn't gonna help all that much when you try to connect
|to an American server from Southeast Asia.
|u/notimeleft4you - 23 hours
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|And Netflix is still gonna gaslight you and make you think you’re the
|problem.
|u/CaptainBayouBilly - 23 hours
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|What storage can write that fast?
|u/Snoe_Gaming - 23 hours
|
|\*slaps dial up modem\* "Can fit so many bits in this bad boy"
|u/Party-Benefit-3995 - 22 hours
|
|FBI, CIA, MI6 and MiB will be knocking on your doors any minute now.
|u/CelestialCherry1 - 22 hours
|
|That speed is cool and all, but let’s be real my Netflix would still ask
|if I’m still watching.
|u/--VinceMasuka-- - 22 hours
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|93? I get about 850mbps. I don't think I could live with slow internet.
|u/3dforlife - 22 hours
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|93 isn't slow internet by any means.
|u/Loading0987 - 22 hours
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|11 megabytes per second isnt that much anymore these days. A 10
|gigabyte movie would still take you 15 minutes total
|u/3dforlife - 22 hours
|
|Indeed, but that's what I have, and I'm not complaining.
|Nevertheless, I'm installing MoCA to get advantage of the
|500/100Mbps.
|u/94bronco - 22 hours
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|And my work email downloads at 75kbs/s
|u/BrightEdge8171 - 22 hours
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|Really depends if you trying to stream on Netflix
|u/Loading0987 - 22 hours
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|For context; 93 mbps would be 11.625 megabytes
|u/michaelrodgers130 - 22 hours
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|Would that help Netflix?
|u/jun00b - 22 hours
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|They didn't. They achieved a record breaking data transfer speed, but it
|had nothing to do with the Internet. Actual details here:
|https://www.nict.go.jp/en/press/2023/11/30-1.html
|u/gelftheelf - 22 hours
|
|If you google for "402 terabits per second" you can find some
|information: [https://scitechdaily.com/402-terabits-a-second-
|researchers-break-world-record-for-data-transmission-
|speed/](https://scitechdaily.com/402-terabits-a-second-researchers-
|break-world-record-for-data-transmission-speed/)
|u/QuinSanguine - 22 hours
|
|TIL where I live in the rural U.S. has better internet speeds than the
|global average. Which is a byproduct of covid and mandated homeschooling
|and companies being forced to improve their shit products and services.
|Something something clouds something silver-linings.
|u/veldtx - 21 hours
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|You all got 93mbps ?? Meanwhile me only got 30mbps ....
|u/Gargomon251 - 20 hours
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|My internet provider defaults to 400 for the most basic plan
|u/HoselRockit - 21 hours
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|I’m just happy when my Xfinity doesn’t keep cutting out
|u/Fartyfivedegrees - 21 hours
|
|Yup, in a lab. Once the connection has to leave the building and go
|somewhere meaningful you'll see that sort of speed become unreachable.
|And who has time to watch 12500 movies?
|u/hoobsher - 20 hours
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|yeah I think Xfinity is offering that speed with 5mbps upload starting
|next year
|u/nick1812216 - 20 hours
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|I’m impressed by the world average being **93Mbps**. Great job everybody
|u/alek_hiddel - 20 hours
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|The funniest part for me is that the record for fastest/largest data
|transfer is like 65mph. An AWS SnowMobile is a semi-trailer built into
|essentially an armored hard drive. If we’re dealing with exabytes of
|data is in significantly faster to bring out a snow mobile, load it up,
|and drive it to an AWS datacenter.
|u/ztasifak - 18 hours
|
|I am not sure that this is true anymore. Specifically one thing that
|may be neglected in these comparisons is the transfer time to the
|vehicle. (Or are you suggesting that the source would place their
|harddrives into the vehicle?) I think Amazon may have retired
|snowmobiles (which gives you a hint at their real world usefulness)
|Also what is the transfer speed of a snowmobile?
|u/alek_hiddel - 18 hours
|
|I don’t know the exact specs, but it’s multiple 100g fibers
|uploading directly from the clients servers. One of my offices for
|work is the decom warehouse for snowballs, and that pile has
|definitely grown in the last year, so the balls may indeed have been
|eliminated.
|u/Moreinius - 20 hours
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|Would still probably take a solid hour to download CoD
|u/nestcto - 19 hours
|
|Gotta say "world record for internet speed" has got to be the most
|clueless and ill-informed way to phrase this. It would make as much
|sense to say that the "science team beat the new record for sciencing"
|And that article has no details on what test was actually performed.
|It's just regurgitating internet speed stats in a way that poorly
|contributes to any real appreciation of the feat, which is never
|actually stated anyway, only spoken around. It's like if a student
|were expected to write an article but didn't really know what it was
|about, so they had AI do it. Which is probably exactly what happened.
|u/Numerous-Ad4715 - 19 hours
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|And Netflix still using dial up.
|u/Picolete - 19 hours
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|There's no SSD fast enough to download all that porn
|u/captkrahs - 18 hours
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|Okay now do fastest write speed
|u/2for1deal - 18 hours
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|- Global average of 93mbps Cries/laughs in Australian
|u/pahweee - 18 hours
|
|And I would still probably have lag.
|u/Bagman220 - 18 hours
|
|Just did a speed test on my new pc and got 1300mbps and was blown away…
|steam games were downloading in minutes. I also remember when you’d be
|lucky to get a 100kbps during the limewire days. 1gbps is fast. 1tbps
|is 100 times that and apparently this guy had 400 times that? Insane. At
|some point we’ll get a petabyte per second.
|u/TheGlave - 17 hours
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|Whats the global median?
|u/Prodigle - 10 hours
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|That is it
|u/Plane_Argument - 17 hours
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|Is it even internet?
|u/Dragon_yum - 17 hours
|
|What about the upstream?
|u/feel-the-avocado - 16 hours
|
|The problem is these are fiber speeds in a controlled lab. They
|usually overlook the fact that you need a router that is capable of
|processing such data so quickly, and that to put it in the real world
|and expect speeds like that, there must be many of these routers. Its
|also important to remember that your computer cant process more than a
|few gigabits when writing to the hard drive and a 1080p video stream is
|only 5mbits so trying to find demand for something like this is a bit
|difficult. Especially when we consider that internet demand has been
|increasing year on year - first in the 90's from jpg and gif files when
|web browsing. Then when video came, that drove another demand increase
|but now we have reached a plateau where 1080p video is good enough for
|99% of users. The only real way to increase demand is to increase the
|number of users behind a connection who are watching a 1080p video. Most
|households barely go above 20mbits and even when they do, its only for a
|few seconds - the exception being gaming consoles and steam but even
|then its only for a short while. When gigabit fiber was rolled out in
|Dunedin, New Zealand, the local ISP tech presented at a networking
|conference and showed the usage data where subscribers would start by
|performing some speed tests, and then wouldnt use the capacity.
|Although they had the extra speed, they werent increasing their actual
|data consumption.
|u/icecoldcoke319 - 16 hours
|
|You can’t even write remotely close to that much storage to an SSD in 1
|second. 50250 GB/s versus the fastest NVMe SSD in the world is about
|15000 MB/s.
|u/Chaffro - 15 hours
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|Lies! There's only 220 movies.
|u/RedGeist_ - 14 hours
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|Comcast be like 402Tb down but 10Mb up 😆
|u/Flynn_lives - 14 hours
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|All that hentai ain’t gonna download itself.
|u/clackercrazy - 13 hours
|
|And here I am getting 18mbs on a 25mbs plan.
|u/Thomas_JCG - 13 hours
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|You could download the new *Call of Duty* in two days with that speed!
|u/DeadFyre - 13 hours
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|And yet Sneakernet is still faster.
|u/OdraNoel2049 - 12 hours
|
|Was this achived at cern for the LHC? They produce insaine amounts of
|data everyday. So much so they have to purge like 90% of it or something
|like that.
|u/waltsnider1 - 11 hours
|
|You wouldn't download an internet, would you?
|u/MagickalFuckFrog - 9 hours
|
|93mbps is the GLOBAL average? Meanwhile I’m an hour south of the largest
|tech companies on the planet and it’s a rare day to go over 100mbps.
|Fuck you and your throttling, Comcast.
|u/RussianVole - 8 hours
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|Is there even any storage medium capable of read/writing at that speed?
|u/non7top - 6 hours
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|Me setting in a hotel with 10kbps high speed internet.
|u/Electrical_Alarm_290 - 5 hours
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|Meanwhile I live in australia with less than 10mbps to boot!
|u/No_Investment_4553 - 1 hour
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|Got 300Mb for 40 euros. Not bad I guess.
|u/ther_dog - 19 hours
|
|This is peanuts. The NSA facility, say in Utah, has the capability to
|download 1 Yottabyte (or one septillion bytes or one trillion terabytes)
|of information. It would take 86 trillion years to download 1 yottabyte
|file. The NSA also have buildings in Hawaii, Georgia, Maryland and
|Texas.
|u/bmcgowan89 - 23 hours
|
|That's what I need the morning of a fight when I can't make up my mind
|what to download from Netflix
|u/Ryyah61577 - 23 hours
|
|Maybe now I can get the drop on some of those younger folk on Black Ops
|6.
|u/alwaysfatigued8787 - 23 hours
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|I could still jerk off and finish faster than it would take that thing
|to download 12,500 movies.
|u/litex2x - 23 hours
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|That’s a lot of porn
|u/Fwoggie2 - 23 hours
|
|Presumably you mean 1GB.
|u/KnottyKnottyHooker - 23 hours
|
|This is definitely faster than the 50mbps of DSL that I have in my rural
|town. 😂
|u/TappedIn2111 - 23 hours
|
|Um…yes, please?
|