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|u/gomicao - 1 day
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|"The new tactic was successful and revealed the vase had a cocktail of
|psychedelic drugs, bodily fluids and alcohol—a combination that Tanasi
|believes was used in a magical ritual reenacting an Egyptian myth,
|likely for fertility." Anthropologists in the future finding a my
|little pony jar, filled with semen... "must have been a horse god of
|fertility."
|u/danabot82 - 1 day
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|I recommend the book The Immortality Key by Brian Muraresku. It's an
|in depth investigation into ancient rituals involving psychedelic
|beverages that were most likely the predecessor to the catholic
|Eucharist. The church took what allowed people to experience the
|divine, turned it into a placebo, then suppressed the original
|versions through violent inquisitions.
|u/Expensive_Square4812 - 1 day
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|You recommend that book to OP? The guy who has a My Little Pony jar
|full of semen? You think that guy reads books?
|u/gomicao - 1 day
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|I read books but the pages are glued together with my seed.
|u/gomicao - 1 day
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|That is interesting. I am a drug/psychedelics nerd. I personally
|don't think anything they have analyzed is psychedelic or even
|deliriant (like datura). But I guess the harmala alone is quite
|active. MAOI's are what makes oral DMT in ayahuasca work. The
|ayahuasca vine actually is the ingredient that contains the MAOI,
|and not the DMT funny enough. This does make me wonder if an MAOI
|would actually make something like lotus have a real effect vs the
|fake "legal high" effect it is marketed as in this day and age.
|u/meshuggahnaut - 14 hours
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|I was super interested in the concept of this book when I heard
|about it, but ultimately I found it to be completely insufferable.
|Chapter after chapter of “Here’s a microscopic grain of completely
|unprovable evidence that biblical figures dropped acid on the reg.
|Could this mean that biblical figures dropped acid on the reg?”
|That’s basically the whole book. I have no idea why it gets such
|rave reviews but maybe I’m being overly cynical about it and missed
|the point.
|u/LocalWriter6 - 1 day
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|I read the paper itself (not entirely cause like the scientist
|explanation of how they found stuff gets progressively crazier-
|wavelength science is absolutely insane) but at the end they mentioned
|that the proteins found are not related to semen, but they are related
|to: breast milk, blood and vaginal or oral mucus
|u/gomicao - 22 hours
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|Pregnant Gas Chromatography Mass Yoni Spectrometer
|u/Chavran - 1 day
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|When, in reality, little Timmy just had a thing for horses from a very
|young age.
|u/ArgonGryphon - 1 day
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|He didn't say *my* my little pony jar. He said *a* my little pony
|jar.
|u/duffstoic - 1 day
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|>"it's a dildo. Of course it's company policy never to, imply
|ownership in the event of a dildo... always use the indefinite
|article *a* dildo, never *your* dildo."
|u/APeacefulWarrior - 1 day
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|Was it found in the Motel Of The Mysteries? I understand that was
|quite the impressive religious site.
|u/Doser91 - 1 day
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|Blue lotus powder that sits in a bottle of wine for a bit creates a nice
|little drink.
|u/NearlyDicklessNick - 1 day
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|What are the effects???
|u/rufous1618 - 1 day
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|If you’ve ever done MDMA it’s like the lite version of that.
|u/zaphodp3 - 1 day
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|If I have not?
|u/MarcusXL - 1 day
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|It's a nice mild sedation with some euphoria. I've also smoked
|Blue Lotus with cannabis, and they seem to potentiate each-
|other. Peganum Harmala (harmaline) is an MAOi and it can be
|used to ingest DMT orally, so it's possible that using both
|together changes or potentiates the effect of Blue Lotus. You
|can read trip reports on Erowid if you're interested in more
|details. Here's the vault for Peganum Harmala (Syrian Rue).
|Scroll down to "Experiences". [https://www.erowid.org/plants/syr
|ian\_rue/](https://www.erowid.org/plants/syrian_rue/)
|u/Tough_Money_958 - 1 day
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|aint blue lotus very minor opiate? proper toke commonly turns
|functional opi high to nod fest.
|u/ChimpSlut - 1 day
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|I fed into this about two years ago and felt nothing? Yet I keep
|running into on Reddit and… I want to believe
|u/rutreh - 1 day
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|According to the original study they also found evidence for relatively
|large amounts of breast milk, oral/vaginal fluids and blood in the mix.
|So essentially it was a bunch of random mildly psychoactive plants (not
|hallucinogenic ones), wine, honey, spit, breast milk & blood. I think
|I’d rather pass on that. The title of this thread and the article
|linked are a bit misleading I think. For one it was not hallucinogenic,
|and the whole bodily fluids thing seems like a pretty big weird thing to
|leave out.
|u/zomboy1111 - 1 day
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|Definitely not hallucinogenic and also weird af. But implies that the
|ancient Egyptians weren't scared to put anything in their drinks.
|There is also a theory that the ancient Egyptians had their own form
|of ayahausca. Perganum harmala is a strong MAO inhibitor. Essentially
|a step away from creating some form of ayahausca.
|u/Tough_Money_958 - 1 day
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|Maybe harmala could not be called proper hallucinogenic but people
|have reported strong trippy effects off of it.
|u/AWonderingWizard - 9 hours
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|This is assuming the urn wasn’t just meant to be the container for
|the inhibitor, and would be mixed/taken as needed?
|u/IamAlso_u_grahvity - 1 day
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|Should it matter to anyone, my title came from a secondary source which
|might be more readable: https://phys.org/news/2024-11-egyptians-drank-
|hallucinogenic-cocktails-ancient.html
|u/purplegladys2022 - 1 day
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|Probably made for some really interesting conversations with their cats.
|u/rtreesucks - 1 day
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|Substance use is part of human culture, it's crazy how the world
|persecutes drug users just for existing and wants to genocide drug
|users.
|u/contactspring - 1 day
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|Only from drugs that aren't being profitable for the connected. For
|example marijuana is illegal, but Marinol is fine. Or Eat is
|illegal, but Welbutrin is commonly prescribed.
|u/LearnAndTeachIsland - 1 day
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|We've been getting stoned for all of human history, until the religions
|became a big thing. Edit: yes I know plenty of mythology and spiritual
|entities had used and continue to use drugs. The major big religious
|groups are what the reference is to above. There will always be
|outliers kids. For more check out Michael Pollan's How to Change Your
|Mind
|u/Nothereforstuff123 - 1 day
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|Tbf, there are plenty of religions where people take psychedelics
|u/gcbofficial - 1 day
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|This is a bad take. Plenty of religions have used and have been
|theorized to use hallucinagens.
|u/Acmnin - 1 day
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|He means the Abrahamic religions that ruled the west after they
|destroyed pagan temples.
|u/Edgedamage - 1 day
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|Can't control the masses, if they are expanding their minds with gifts
|from nature.
|u/Sunny_McSunset - 1 day
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|Can't control religion if everyone has seen god. (if you've ever
|done high doses of psychedelics, there's a few sections in the Bible
|that are very clearly just trip reports. If you were trying to
|describe fractals without the word for "fractal" you'd probably say
|"wheels within wheels covered in eyes," and "ladder to heaven.")
|u/TrevCat666 - 1 day
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|Study confirms every ancient culture did this and many still do.
|u/lesath_lestrange - 1 day
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|>”There’s no research out there that has ever found what we found in
|this study,” Tanasi said. “For the first time, we were able to identify
|all the chemical signatures of the components of the liquid concoction
|contained in the Tampa Museum of Art’s Bes mug, including the plants
|used by Egyptians, all of which have psychotropic and medicinal
|properties.” Recognized psychotropic drugs today are things like SSRIs
|and anti-depressants. These are not hallucinogenic. Psychedelic drugs
|are drugs that cause changes in mood, perception, and cognition. These
|are the hallucinogens.
|u/JimblesRombo - 1 day
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|"psychotropic" is a broad word that covers any substance that causes
|changes in subjective experience. not all hallucinogens are
|psychedelic, and some psychedelics are only very mildly
|hallucinogenic, and all of the above are all psychotropic
|u/lesath_lestrange - 1 day
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|I should’ve clarified, hallucinogens are a sub-category of
|psychotropic drugs. The researchers here found psychotropic drugs.
|The article, and this Reddit post, are incorrect to claim that these
|psychotropic drugs are hallucinogenic, they have conflated the
|terms, nothing in the article indicates that these were
|hallucinogenic.
|u/lesath_lestrange - 1 day
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|We can agree on this all day, but can you tell me the difference
|between “conjecture” and “evidence reported by the researchers?”
|The title is sensationalistic.
|u/space_monster - 1 day
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|They found harmine and harmaline (MAOIs), plus blue lotus which is a
|psychoactive alkaloid. MAOIs are used in Ayahuasca to enable dmt to
|cross the blood-brain barrier, so it's possible they were onto
|something quite interesting.
|u/OrphanDextro - 1 day
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|Yeah. Blue lotus might be more useful than originally imagined.
|u/Oldfigtree - 1 day
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|The paper clearly states that they found evidence of P. harmala, and
|explain “The seeds of this plant produce high quantities of the
|alkaloids harmine and harmaline, which induce dream-like visions,
|considered of the oneirophrenic kind”. Thats a hallucinatory state,
|so the title seems valid to me.
|u/Blue_Greymon07 - 1 day
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|Look up the blue water lily. Crazy stuff
|u/DaRusty_Shackleford - 1 day
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|I just assumed this my entire life.
|u/AllUrUpsAreBelong2Us - 22 hours
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|Some say that people got into agriculture to get grains to make bread.
|Other say that people got into agriculture to get grains to make beer
|and bread was a side effect of using the spent grains.
|u/luttman23 - 15 hours
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|Explains a few of their gods
|