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|u/fredlllll - 1 day
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|not like we have much of a choice when our job is sitting in front of a
|glowing box
|u/senorkoki - 1 day
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|Shocking. The activity that is facilitating this sedentary lifestyle
|is necessarily required to even have insurance.
|u/TurtleMOOO - 1 day
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|There are jobs that don’t involve sitting on your ass
|u/deadtorrent - 1 day
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|There are jobs where you don’t even get insurance
|u/TurtleMOOO - 1 day
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|Right. We can go back and forth here, but there are jobs that
|are active AND have great benefits, too Best part is, a lot of
|them require zero education
|u/Thr8trthrow - 1 day
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|scuse me I'm gonna skootch by you over to the career tree and
|just snag me a livable wage real quick, sorry just, nevermind.
|u/Dragoncat_3_4 - 1 day
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|Sure, but **somebody** has to do the ones that do.
|u/Dimensionalanxiety - 1 day
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|And for most schools as well. You go to school for 6 hours a day and
|will be sitting for 5 of them.
|u/W8kingNightmare - 1 day
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|plus the bus ride to and from
|u/WildFemmeFatale - 1 day
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|Then sitting still doing homework for hours when you get home
|u/newcar2020 - 1 day
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|I figured it out. We gotta go back to being hunter gatherers.
|u/meka_lona - 1 day
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|Honestly, yes.
|u/Uxium-the-Nocturnal - 1 day
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|Your wish may soon come true!
|u/dansedemorte - 1 day
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|except it's gonna be like fallout or cyberpunk...
|u/AequusEquus - 1 day
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|/r/TheMonkeysPaw/
|u/OePea - 1 day
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|If we are incredibly lucky. The movie Threads definitely looks
|more realistic
|u/Dont_pet_the_cat - 1 day
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|Plus another five hours of work for uni to do at home
|u/Radarker - 1 day
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|And a few hours of homework, maybe you can do that running.
|u/Momoselfie - 1 day
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|And then sitting to do homework and eat meals etc.
|u/coffeeanddonutsss - 1 day
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|Yeah but you get two to three breaks to run around (bring back
|recess for adults).
|u/Dimensionalanxiety - 1 day
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|Only for elementary students. Highschool and college/university
|students don't really get the same. Though I guess we can just
|leave whenever in college.
|u/JBHUTT09 - 1 day
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|Middle/high school is the worst. College treats you like a human
|being and gives you autonomy. Middle/high school treats you like
|a prisoner.
|u/coffeeanddonutsss - 1 day
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|I wouldn't exactly call most middle or high schoolers
|sedentary. There's gym and sports. I want that in my adult
|life haha
|u/InTheEndEntropyWins - 1 day
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|Take a break every hour, just do a minute or so of squats or burpees.
|u/lulaf0rtune - 1 day
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|I've never worked somewhere that would allow breaks that frequently,
|and even if they did do you "just do burpees" in the kitchenette?
|u/Anxious-Tadpole-2745 - 1 day
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|Nobody allows breaks but you can always take them. Get up and
|refill a water bottle one hour, use the bathroom the next because
|you're going to be drinking a lot of water. You don't need much.
|Just get up and move. Stand on your feet, stretch, move your feet
|and legs up and down, twist your torso back and forth to get some
|blood flow.
|u/SnooLentils3008 - 20 hours
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|Get one of those little mini exercise bike things you can put
|under your desk
|u/InTheEndEntropyWins - 1 day
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|Normally just walk up and down the stairwell for a few minutes.
|u/KnoxCastle - 1 day
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|This is one of the many reasons WFH is so amazing. Not only do I
|save commute time so I can exercise before work I can also do
|simple little activities during the day. I often just kinda pace
|at home while thinking about work. I couldn't that in an office.
|u/CactusCustard - 1 day
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|Just do it. Have you worked places that didn’t let you leave your
|desk to pee or get a coffee? How do you even consider this a
|“break”
|u/lulaf0rtune - 1 day
|
|Unfortunately a lot of people are more closely monitored at
|their place of work than you seem to realise. I'm glad you have
|the freedom to just get up and piss or make a drink whenever you
|like but sadly that's becoming a bit of a luxury
|u/memeticengineering - 1 day
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|Are those people the same ones who are sedentary for most of
|their work days? I'm honestly asking, I associate hyper
|surveillance at work with service jobs and like working in
|Amazon warehouses, not with desk jockeying.
|u/csarcie - 1 day
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|Call centers are often closely monitored and don't allow
|frequent breaks, but are just desk jobs.
|u/n1ghtbringer - 1 day
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|Yeah call centers are a perfect example. People who aren't
|familiar don't know how regimented and monitored the work
|is. You literally will be fired for too many bathroom
|breaks, and they're always run by crazy people.
|u/SMTRodent - 1 day
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|Even my shittiest job wasn't that appalling, and that involved
|a lot of sitting at a desk doing nothing until someone called.
|I could at least go and stretch my legs once every forty-five
|minutes, as per health and safety guidelines.
|u/Far-Way5908 - 1 day
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|Also had a job that involved sitting at a desk doing nothing
|until someone called. Even a minute of inactivity was
|flagged, and this was over a decade ago. Can't imagine how
|much worse it is now.
|u/Plebs-_-Placebo - 1 day
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|There's a "prison workout" regiment, designed for a 6x8 cell, so a
|cubicle will do :)
|u/Global-Chart-3925 - 1 day
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|Do cubicles even exist anymore? I always thought they were an
|80s trope. I’ve only ever seen open (or now ‘broken’ plan)
|offices.
|u/Status-Shock-880 - 1 day
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|Hopefully that changes back. The science on open offices being
|counterproductive is pretty strong. Not that most leaders
|listen to science…
|u/kuroimakina - 1 day
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|Everything that’s happening in America right now shows that
|people explicitly *ignore* science, and often times do it
|intentionally out of malice, “pride”, or similar
|u/Status-Shock-880 - 1 day
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|Yea true, but not everything and everybody. The issue is
|the bell curve, which is a good way to visualize that the
|smartest people are not the mainstream, and that we as a
|whole act at an average intelligence level, not the
|highest one.
|u/raspberrih - 1 day
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|I have my earpiece in the whole time, so it dissuades people
|from talking to me and also I can't hear their talking.
|Fortunately I don't have ADHD so it's not a huge problem for
|me.
|u/diamondpredator - 1 day
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|I honestly do NOT like open office spaces and prefer cubicles.
|Luckily I have my own little office space, but still.
|u/MyNameis_Not_Sure - 1 day
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|You can do calisthenics pretty much anywhere, so ya the
|kitchenette, the stairwell landing, the parking lot are all
|appropriate for a mini workout when on break
|u/PerpetwoMotion - 1 day
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|Not calisthentics, but there is a lot you can do while sitting.
|I assume that the article means collapsing into a chair, not
|sitting and pulling yourself up straight, doing isometics,
|breathing, massaging your muscles, or doing core exercises. If I
|don't do those, sitting become painful for me.
|u/Cloberella - 1 day
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|I have a standing desk and do squats at it sometimes. My boss has
|a walking pad. I would too, if I could afford it.
|u/raspberrih - 1 day
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|Wait... what? I have a regular office job and it's not a problem
|there. Nor any office job I know of here. Are you in America?
|u/Disig - 1 day
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|I work with the general public and thought it may feel weird to do
|at first most people won't question or care if you get up and
|stretch a bit. I do my physical therapy routine too. Not
|everything can be done and I question burpees but there are things
|you can do.
|u/RaggedyAndromeda - 1 day
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|Are they in your cube, breathing down your neck? Just stand up and
|do some stretches. Get creative. Or die early from heart failure I
|guess, you do you.
|u/DrakneiX - 1 day
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|Many countries have "Visual Breaks" when working with computers.
|In Spain, for example, you are legally allowed to rest 5min every
|1 hour of screen time, which means you can get up and have a mini-
|break, walk a bit around, grab a glass of water, etc... Its not
|much but it helps.
|u/DrugChemistry - 11 minutes
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|I’ve never worked somewhere that would notice getting up for a
|walk around the office occasionally. Do you work at Amazon and
|have to pee in bottles?
|u/Valvador - 1 day
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|It's crazy how many responses to you are just a list of excuses.
|We get it, you guys. You can always find a reason to not do some
|exercise.
|u/big_guyforyou - 1 day
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|standing desks are a thing. but idk sitting is so much easier
|u/UncoolSlicedBread - 1 day
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|A lot of people have a job where a standing desk wouldn’t be allowed
|or paid for by the business.
|u/BevansDesign - 1 day
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|This is one of the reasons why I've been resisting my company's
|return-to-office movement, because I have a much better work setup
|at home with an electric standing desk, large HD monitor,
|ergonomic equipment, and so on. Fortunately they just laid me
|off, so that solves *that* problem!
|u/UncoolSlicedBread - 1 day
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|Sorry about the layoff!
|u/vrTater - 1 day
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|I remember seeing some study recently that standing desk don’t
|really offer any benefits in this regard because you are still just
|standing there and not in motion. Still probably better than just
|sitting there all day but not the “here is the solution” we were
|hoping for.
|u/Flying-lemondrop-476 - 1 day
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|it’s been found standing for too long causes leg blood clotting so
|the solution is probably a convertible desk and switching from
|standing to sitting every 20 minutes?
|u/stumblinbear - 1 day
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|Who's going to switch every twenty minutes? That's such a
|constant interruption, I started ignoring my alarms to switch.
|Maybe once every couple hours. Though switching from sitting to
|standing with a desk treadmill (if you can afford it) once or
|twice a day is probably miles better than any other option
|u/TrolliusJKingIIIEsq - 1 day
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|I have an adjustable sitting-standing desk, but rather than
|have to adjust it if I want to switch, I have a high stool-
|type chair (with a back and foot rest). So it's easy for me to
|switch frequently without having to adjust my desk at all.
|Time to sit? Hop on the stool. Time to stand? Just go ahead
|and do it.
|u/Affectionate-Bath970 - 1 day
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|Well in order to find a solution, you need to have a problem.
|Prolonged static standing does not cause blood clots at a higher
|rate than static sitting. I'm not convinced that it is even
|equal. It also, according to the study linked above, does not
|have a meaningful impact on blood pressure reduction. It does
|however involve a significant increase to energy expenditure.
|Which by itself would be very beneficial to a wide swathe
|different ailments that are common to sedentary workers. So
|if the question is "how do we reduce blood pressure?" The answer
|to that is pretty simple: vigorous cardiovascular exercise
|completed regularly. We already know this. It likely has to be
|done outside of the workplace, since exercising at that
|intensity likely wouldn't be conducive to productive office
|work. A treadmill desk would likely be at least moderately
|beneficial assuming the worker set the speed to an appropriate
|intensity. If the question is "how do we prevent blood
|clotting in sendentary office workers who spend 8 hours a day
|statically sitting" the answer is also pretty simple - movement.
|If the office worker did 10 air squats every 30-60 minutes for
|an entire work shift, I'd wager you'd see results there. But
|just like blood pressure, a walking desk would do the trick
|pretty well.
|u/drakozphoenix - 1 day
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|Might even be harmful as well. [WVU-based study reported last
|month (October 2024)] https://scitechdaily.com/new-research-
|reveals-that-standing-desks-could-actually-be-harming-your-health/
|u/Own_Back_2038 - 1 day
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|Standing still is still being sedentary
|u/stabamole - 1 day
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|It is, but if you’re standing you’re a lot more likely to move
|your feet, shift your weight, pace more, actually walk over to the
|trash can, etc. Even if it doesn’t create enough activity to
|fully solve the problem, it’s not worthless
|u/Froggmann5 - 1 day
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|> It is, but if you’re standing you’re a lot more likely to move
|your feet, shift your weight, pace more, actually walk over to
|the trash can, etc. Even if that were true, that benefit is
|[offset by the downsides of standing](https://www.theguardian.co
|m/society/2024/oct/16/standing-desks-may-be-bad-for-your-health-
|study-suggests). TLDR is that standing makes you more likely to
|develop conditions such as DVT and other cardiovascular issues
|as compared to sitting. Mostly because you're distributing your
|bodyweight over a smaller area (your feet vs. your rear and
|thighs). Because of this you develop these symptoms much quicker
|than someone who is sitting down distributing their weight more
|evenly across a bigger surface area. > "The key takeaway is
|that standing for too long will not offset an otherwise
|sedentary lifestyle and could be risky for some people in terms
|of circulatory health. We found that standing more does not
|improve cardiovascular health over the long-term and increases
|the risk of circulatory issues" ... "The team found that for
|every extra 30 minutes spent standing beyond two hours, the risk
|of circulatory disease increased by 11%". The idea that you're
|more likely to move, and is therefore a benefit to standing over
|sitting, isn't supported by the science.
|u/Affectionate-Bath970 - 1 day
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|It will really add up over a 8 hour shift. A 175 man burns
|around 100 calories sitting and 160 standing. That's almost 500
|calories difference between the two, and the standing person
|will not have the same issues with blood pooling in the lower
|extremities. In fact, if you did nothing else but eat to your
|maintenance calories and stand at work, you'd be losing around a
|1lb a week assuming a bodyweight around 175lbs. Standing is
|objectively better, honestly. Walking is even better still. Both
|would need to be accompanied by some strengthening too though,
|otherwise you may experience some joint pain. *Of course this
|assumes no pre existing injuries, blood pressure issues, balance
|issues etc etc.
|u/Own_Back_2038 - 1 day
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|Agreed, but standing and not sitting by at all comes with its
|own problems
|u/Flying-lemondrop-476 - 1 day
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|and causes leg blood clotting
|u/Anxious-Tadpole-2745 - 1 day
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|No it's not. Standing is considered sedentary in this study
|because the accelerometer can't accurately detect standing.
|Standing has been known to lower CV risks over sitting.
|u/big_guyforyou - 1 day
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|do jumping jacks
|u/BadTanJob - 1 day
|
|Ha. I had to fight tooth and nail for my standing desk - multiple
|doctors notes for a “bad back,” two weeks of back and forth with my
|manager and his manager, etc. After I got the desk I was told that
|management now sees me as a “difficult” employee. All because I
|couldn’t sit all day. This was in a huge Fortune 500 company within
|a niche industry, now imagine people stuck in smaller companies with
|no HR departments and even less say.
|u/burning_iceman - 1 day
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|Standing for extended periods is worse than sitting.
|u/Valvador - 1 day
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|Standing Desks + Small Treadmill has been huge for me.
|u/Disig - 1 day
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|My job has standing desks but unfortunately we can't get them fully
|upright because of how short the electrical cords are.
|u/Flying-lemondrop-476 - 1 day
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|you also have to be careful not to stand up for too long, causing
|leg blood clots.
|u/Sopheus - 1 day
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|Actually not, they are bad for you.
|https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/12/health/standing-desks-health-
|effects-wellness/index.html
|u/gentlechin - 1 day
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|Also factor in driving to and from glowing box
|u/Disig - 1 day
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|I wonder if standing desks can mitigate that.
|u/Richer_than_God - 1 day
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|And yet we have pervasive disrespect for walking desks.
|u/chicklette - 1 day
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|guess I'll die.
|u/ss_sivasai - 1 day
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|And we are aiming to sit even more by creating robots that do our work
|u/JoeSabo - 1 day
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|Get a stand up desk?
|u/HaruhiSuzumiya69 - 1 day
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|You pick the job you want. If people choose their wealth before their
|health (and don't otherwise make themselves active), then that's a
|shame.
|u/Storm7367 - 17 hours
|
|Many people are forced to take whatever they need - what they 'want'
|is a luxury you are evidently privileged with.
|u/ninjababe23 - 1 day
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|Get a standing desk.
|u/FacelessFellow - 1 day
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|“No” -Amazon call center
|u/ninjababe23 - 1 day
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|Purchase one yourself, its a good investment in your future health
|u/tmtg2022 - 1 day
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|If you're not busy being born, then you're busy dying
|u/johnsolomon - 1 day
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|Your body is actually experiencing a net positive growth for the first
|third~quarter of your life, so technically you don’t start dying until
|around 25
|u/dargonmike1 - 1 day
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|26m here and my body is absolutely falling apart already it’s like a
|light switch. Reverse cervical lordosis causing migraines neck pain
|I’ve never experienced in my life
|u/johnsolomon - 1 day
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|Damn, I'm sorry man -- hope you're able to get your spine
|corrected
|u/chrisdh79 - 1 day
|
|From the article: More time spent sitting, reclining or lying down
|during the day may increase the risk of cardiovascular disease (CVD) and
|death, according to a
|[study](https://www.jacc.org/doi/10.1016/j.jacc.2024.10.065) in JACC,
|the flagship journal of the American College of Cardiology, and
|presented at the American Heart Association’s Scientific Sessions 2024.
|More than roughly 10-and-a-half hours of sedentary behavior per day was
|significantly linked with future heart failure (HF) and cardiovascular
|(CV) death, even among people meeting recommended levels of exercise.
|“Our findings support cutting back on sedentary time to reduce
|cardiovascular risk, with 10.6 hours a day marking a potentially key
|threshold tied to higher heart failure and cardiovascular mortality,”
|said Shaan Khurshid, MD, MPH, a cardiologist at the Massachusetts
|General Hospital and co-senior author of the study. “Too much sitting or
|lying down can be harmful for heart health, even for those who are
|active.” Insufficient exercise is a known risk factor for
|cardiovascular disease (CVD). Over 150 minutes of moderate-to-vigorous
|physical activity per week is recommended by current guidelines to
|promote heart health. However, study experts say exercise is only a
|small fraction of overall daily activity, and the current guidelines
|don’t provide specific guidance on sedentary behavior which accounts for
|a much larger portion of daily activity, despite evidence that it’s
|directly linked with CVD risk. This study examined the amount of
|sedentary time at which CVD risk is greatest and explored how sedentary
|behavior and physical activity together impact the chances of atrial
|fibrillation (AF), heart failure (HF), myocardial infarction (MI) and CV
|mortality.
|u/TBruns - 1 day
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|10.6 hours is the threshold? Don’t we sleep for 8?
|u/JoeSabo - 1 day
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|Yeah this is in addition to sleep. We cant avoid sleep. So really
|they're saying 18.6 hours if sleep is included.
|u/_hungry_ - 1 day
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|What about sleeping? Is that time figured in? Is napping now dangerous
|too?
|u/Eternal_Being - 1 day
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|This only includes sitting/lying during the day. So it would include
|napping, but not sleeping. If you're napping for 10 hours a day,
|that's sleeping.
|u/_hungry_ - 1 day
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|I didn’t go into the actual study but the website didn’t define a
|day that I saw, different people sleep different amounts. If it’s
|based on 8 hrs of sleep + 10 hours sedentary time it should state
|that.
|u/Eternal_Being - 1 day
|
|I interpreted 'during the say' as meaning outside of the sleep
|period. Meaning when they say '10 hours sedentary time per day'
|they are referring to outside of the sleep period. This is typical
|of behavioural studies into sedentary behaviour. Unfortunately
|the full study is paywalled.
|u/MissingBothCufflinks - 1 day
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|That doesn't make sense, why would sleep be different from lying
|awake
|u/UncoolSlicedBread - 1 day
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|I’d imagine they’re factoring in these things on top of sleeping. And
|napping for 10 hours on top of that isn’t good for cardiovascular
|health it would seem.
|u/art-man_2018 - 1 day
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|> Is napping now dangerous too? I seem to have inherited naps now
|from my mother. She was a housewife with the usual chores involved in
|that; cooking, cleaning, laundry, groceries, etc.. Then she would take
|a nap, reading a book and then dozing off for about an hour or two. I
|am 64 yr average weight guy, do a lot of walking to work and getting
|groceries or errands done, standing six hours, five days a week
|(cashier retail) and sitting a few hours in free time (either surfing,
|designing on the laptop or video games). But after work occasionally
|now I will take a 1-2 hour nap. Seems to do the trick... and my mother
|lived to be 101 years old.
|u/mastermind_loco - 1 day
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|Humans weren't evolved to work 40 hours a week. I think that's just what
|all of these studies ultimately come down to.
|u/Alarmed-Draw397 - 1 day
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|i highly doubt humans are meant to be active for 16hrs per day either
|though. in reality our ancestors were probably equally sedentary
|because it would be foolish to waste calories on trivial pursuits
|during times when food is uncertain
|u/deletable666 - 1 day
|
|There are anthropological studies that compare modern day hunter
|gatherer bands in Africa (our best way to compare our lifestyle to
|evolutionary lifestyles) that show less work per week in hunter
|gatherers when you equate survival tasks to the modern civilization
|work experience. It doesn’t take 40 hours a week to forage and
|hunt and skin and cook game. Also, game and edible flora were much
|more common before our biosphere was “anthropicized” as I like to
|call it. Many places were teeming with food so long as you could
|pick or kill it. I wouldn’t be surprised if these numbers of hours
|“worked” were even lower than what we observe in modern hunter
|gatherer societies because of a more diverse ecosystem.
|u/Alarmed-Draw397 - 1 day
|
|right so you're saying that our ancestors were even MORE sedentary
|than us. work is probably the #1 place most people get any
|activity & they did even less work back then that said, the work
|they did do was very aerobic/cardiovascular so they were probably
|working hard 4hrs and being sedentary 12hrs per day.
|u/Ruggeddusty - 1 day
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|It's unlikely that they were actually sedentary as we are now.
|They may not have been chasing gazelle across the prairie all
|day, but nor were they basically motionless for hours at a time.
|They would be walking, crafting, cleaning, gardening, tending
|children, socializing, collecting firewood, repairing a thatch
|roof. But not sitting still for even the amount of time it takes
|to watch a full length movie.
|u/Alarmed-Draw397 - 1 day
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|so basically working for 12hrs per day. plus no medicine. idk
|why people romanticize it
|u/sashimi-grade - 1 day
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|No. Ruggeddusty is saying their rest and leisure involve
|movement. That's not the same thing as work. Also, no one is
|saying we should go back to a hunter gatherer lifestyle with
|no medicine.
|u/Alarmed-Draw397 - 19 hours
|
|"walking, crafting, cleaning, gardening, tending children,
|collecting firewood, repairing a thatch roof. But not
|sitting still for even the amount of time it takes to
|watch a full length movie" all of the things listed are
|work. people today do all of those things as work. we have
|crafters, cleaners, teachers, daycare, lumberjacks, and
|roofers. people do these jobs for 8hrs per day and then
|have 8hrs for leisure. yet people complain that this
|lifestyle is too hard and many people romanticize the
|hunter-gatherer lifestyle & say that they worked much less
|than we do today. yet this person is implying they never
|had even 2hrs to stop and rest on an average day. these
|beliefs contradict eachother and someone is wrong. Im not
|an anthropologist myself so im not sure now
|u/JoeSabo - 1 day
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|Yeah but they also died at like 35.
|u/rapier999 - 1 day
|
|I recently visited a small island off the coast of Tasmania -
|Bruny Island. Population 600, landmass 326sqkm or 140sqm. I’ve
|been in tons of rural areas before but this was INSANE. Absolutely
|teeming with wildlife. You couldn’t look outside at night without
|seeing a variety of animals. The impact that we’ve had on the
|density of animal populations is so, so understated.
|u/PennilessPirate - 17 hours
|
|They have done [studies](https://cpha.duke.edu/news-
|events/news/herman-pontzer-explains-where-our-calories-really-go-
|and-what-studying-humanitys) and they found that certain tribes that
|are known to walk 10+ miles *per day* actually burn about the same
|amount of calories as “normal” sedentary people. The reason? Your
|body learns to adapt to the amount (or lack) of exercise you do
|regularly. This is known as the [exercise
|paradox](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_paradox) So you
|may ask, “How are the sedentary people burning calories if they’re
|not moving?!” Well the answer is by attacking itself. That’s why
|anxiety, depression, autoimmune disorders and chronic inflammation
|are all symptoms of a sedentary lifestyle.
|u/BanananaSlice - 1 day
|
|So… sitting down hurts. Also there was a recent study that was released
|which stated standing up for a prolonged period of time at work hurts.
|What the F do you want us to do? Maybe breathing air and living hurts?
|I swear these studies are so stupid.
|u/Cryptolution - 1 day
|
|>Maybe breathing air and living hurts? Of course it does. Air has
|pollutants and living is a constant process of oxidative stress and
|dying. Every breath is one step closer to dying, such is the nature of
|life.
|u/foamy_da_skwirrel - 1 day
|
|Optimally we'd be persistence hunting in the Savannah
|u/Xin_shill - 1 day
|
|I think death from lion would be an even shorter timeline
|u/E_hV - 1 day
|
|These studies are min/maxing life. Modernity crushes living 10,000
|years ago, it crushes living 100 years ago. Persistence hunting in
|the Savannah did not give us longer healthier lives.
|u/Olderandolderagain - 1 day
|
|Exactly. Like WTH? People live longer now than any other point in
|history.
|u/Rocktopod - 1 day
|
|Cardiovascular health would probably be better if we were hunter
|gatherers, but there would be a bunch of other risks that we
|don't have now.
|u/Olderandolderagain - 1 day
|
|Maybe. Or maybe a hunter gather's body would break down at an
|early age causing them to live a sedentary lifestyle therefore
|developing heart disease. There are a million possibilities.
|It'd be cool to study though.
|u/xcuteikinz - 1 day
|
|Just because people live longer doesn't make anything better. Oh
|boy I'm so excited to inevitably develop dementia after decades
|of toxic chemical exposure and processed foods Not to mention
|the fact that depression is a relatively modern disease, so
|that's also fun modern thing we get to live with. And diabetes,
|and heart disease, and cancer, and the chronic pain from poor
|posture as a result of sitting in a chair all day and sleeping
|on a soft mattress. And the fucked up teeth from a modern diet
|is cool. And the biological infertility rate decreasing due to
|modern living is also awesome. I can't even escape because I
|need a job to sustain myself because all of the land is already
|"owned". The only good thing about modern living is the music,
|everything else unironically blows and I hate it.
|u/E_hV - 21 hours
|
|No offense, but this is really first world problem
|complaining. You're comparing modernity to what persistence
|hunting and primal humanity. This has to be a troll. For
|example, you're complaining about being in a structure with
|climate control, poor posture due to sitting and a soft bed to
|what? Living in a small band of climate which humanity could
|survive in without relatively modern technology (2000-3000
|years), in a state of perpetual starvation, risk of being
|mangled by predators and prey animals alike and an environment
|where every drink of water is inherently dangerous (e.g. it
|was safer to drink wine then water up until only a 100-150
|years ago). If you aren't a troll I think you need to do
|some soul searching and IFF you are depressed then you should
|100% get some help.
|u/Olderandolderagain - 1 day
|
|I'm sorry you're feeling that way. That is very tough. You may
|want to reach out to a professional. Sometimes they can help!
|u/xcuteikinz - 1 day
|
|It's okay, you don't have to address any of my claims, let's
|just pretend everything is totally cool and that there's no
|problems whatsoever with modernity
|u/GoldenBoyOffHisPerch - 1 day
|
|We've turned everything into an individualized problem,
|like don't strike if your employer is cutting your pay,
|maybe you need some therapy to help you deal w/ it if
|you're troubled (out of pocket of course).
|u/Olderandolderagain - 1 day
|
|I don't have any of those problems so I didn't really know
|what to say... I'm just a person working a regular job who
|tries to eat healthy and exercise. I'm not depressed and I
|certainly feel like there's more to life than music.
|That's why I said I'm sorry you feel that way - I can't
|relate and I don't have the answers you're looking for.
|u/xcuteikinz - 1 day
|
|I'm not looking for answers? I'm saying that living long
|isn't an indication of a better life, so it's weird to
|use that to back up the idea that modernity is
|inherently better than older lifestyles.
|u/Olderandolderagain - 1 day
|
|Right on. If I could choose any period of human
|history to live in, it'd be now. I think we disagree
|on that. Give me the dementia and an iPad.
|u/Goeatabagofdicks - 1 day
|
|Or, the Happy Life Home allows one’s children to create The Veldt.
|u/Olderandolderagain - 1 day
|
|Yeah and die at age 30...
|u/One_Left_Shoe - 1 day
|
|Probably foraging more often than not, but same same.
|u/kbt - 1 day
|
|Ain't nothin' gonna break-a my stride Nobody gonna slow me down Oh
|no, I got to keep on moving
|u/bouchandre - 1 day
|
|Walkable cities are the anwser.
|u/Brodellsky - 1 day
|
|We're supposed to walk, is what.
|u/FiftyShadesOfGregg - 1 day
|
|What like… for hours and hours? This study makes it sound like
|making sure to walk around your office every hour or so doesn’t do
|anything because it’s cumulative time sitting (or lying down) that
|matters. So there would be zero way for anyone with an office job to
|avoid these apparent health risks, even if we spent all of our non-
|work time on our feet pacing in our house instead of sitting to
|watch tv or eat.
|u/SoDavonair - 1 day
|
|> What like… for hours and hours? Actually, yes. That's what we
|did before the late 20th century. At an evolutionary scale,
|humanity (in developed nations) just started sitting down a few
|minutes ago. It's not so much that we're supposed to be doing
|one thing or another, but more about *if you want to achieve X
|outcome instead of Y, then do this*.
|u/FiftyShadesOfGregg - 1 day
|
|Well not everything that humanity started recently doing on an
|evolutionary scale is bad for us, it just seems that a sedentary
|lifestyle is one that is. But my point was more that even if we
|DID spend every other second of our day walking, and even walked
|around every hour, having a regular office job puts you at an
|increased risk of these poor health outcomes, according to this
|study. Which seems contrary to our understanding of what it is
|about a sedentary job that’s bad for you. And also feels quite
|unrealistic. Ever since we started cultivating agriculture,
|*some* people in society got to sit a lot. And even most animals
|sit a LOT. Look at dogs, lions, gorillas. They do a ton of
|sitting. They just also do a lot of moving. To it does seem just
|odd to me for this study to find that exercising and moving
|otherwise doesn’t offset this.
|u/J_DayDay - 1 day
|
|From an evolutionary perspective, its mission accomplished
|whether or not we die at age 50 of a heart attack. At that
|point, the reproductive process has already happened.
|Everybody living to be 78 is the anomaly. Keeling over from
|accumulated damage in middle age is the standard.
|u/themangastand - 1 day
|
|VR helps. Ive tried to change my gaming habits to vr. Especially
|if your job is stationary. Really helps
|u/FiftyShadesOfGregg - 1 day
|
|I don’t understand how VR would make me sit at my desk job less?
|u/themangastand - 1 day
|
|I'm saying after work. If you game a lot of sit at home a lot
|after. I work at home so I just go on bike rides as well for a
|break
|u/FiftyShadesOfGregg - 1 day
|
|Got it! This study seems to be suggesting that no matter
|what we do in the non-work hours, if for over 10.6 hours a
|day you are sedentary at work (which I am), it doesn’t
|matter, you’re still at higher risk for these health
|outcomes.
|u/SMTRodent - 1 day
|
|> What like… for hours and hours? Yes? It's not that hard to even
|do, assuming anywhere near reasonable health. It's what our bodies
|are designed for, a whole bunch of walking all day long.
|u/Momoselfie - 1 day
|
|The answer is doing everything from the tub or swimming pool.
|u/myboybuster - 1 day
|
|The healthiest I've ever been was pushing a lawn mower around all day
|u/OpposesTheOpinion - 1 day
|
|Incoming study about poor air quality worldwide and prolonged
|exposure to the outdoors is harmful to our health.
|u/myboybuster - 1 day
|
|I'm not talking about studies, just personally, my body completely
|changed during that 6 weeks. Mentally and physically, I have never
|felt better than doing low impact labor like that
|u/BanananaSlice - 1 day
|
|Bleh you get all that gas smell into your lungs when you’re pushing
|lawn mowers.
|u/Disig - 1 day
|
|You're thinking in extremes. Basically you just want to make sure you
|get some time sitting some time standing. It's a balance. And
|unfortunately our current work culture doesn't cater to that.
|u/A_Bridgeburner - 1 day
|
|Walking and engaging in light activity like our ancestors did.
|How are sitting and standing the only two things that occur to you?
|u/Toxonomonogatari - 1 day
|
|Breathing air? Sounds like oxidative stress. You should probably stop
|doing that. Try breathing blueberries?
|u/dranaei - 1 day
|
|Everything degrades you in one way or another. We just try to find
|ways to minimise this, for now.
|u/FibroBitch97 - 1 day
|
|I have fibromyalgia, everything hurts, idk what to tell you man :/
|u/Piotrrrrr - 1 day
|
|It’s not the studies that are stupid, it’s the modern lifestyle forced
|onto us
|u/Anxious-Tadpole-2745 - 1 day
|
|Study A says not to drink a gallon of coffee, study B says no coffee
|has risk, what can anyone do? There's no way we can moderately do a
|little of each!/s
|u/Sbatio - 1 day
|
|I thought of that standing study too. It’s like we were built using
|planned obsolescence.
|u/zlide - 1 day
|
|? I’m not sure what you’re even trying to say here. Research has
|pretty consistently led in the direction that being sedentary, or even
|just stationary in the case of prolonged standing, is deleterious to
|your health. Your body is meant to change position from time to time.
|u/LaceTheSpaceRace - 1 day
|
|And yet only a few weeks ago a different [study
|](https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/sep/26/weekend-warrior-
|workouts-daily-exercise) said exercising only at weekends could be
|enough. Can't win.
|u/p-r-i-m-e - 1 day
|
|Exercising and being sedentary are not the only options. We are
|designed to be walking for a significant portion of every day. That’s
|bipedalism for you.
|u/LaceTheSpaceRace - 1 day
|
|I know this thank you. I'm merely linking to a study because it's
|notable how different their conclusions are.
|u/p-r-i-m-e - 1 day
|
|Their conclusions aren’t different, this is what I’m saying. They
|are looking at different things too. This study above is looking
|at those who are extremely inactive outside of their exercise
|hours whereas your linked study is not. From the article you
|linked: >Dr Leandro Rezende, an expert in preventive medicine at
|the Federal University of São Paulo, who led the 2022 study into
|health and exercise, said: “These findings confirm that total
|volume matters most, regardless of the weekly frequency. >“This
|is good news for those trying to reach the World Health
|Organization guidelines and have only a few days a week to do so.
|However, it is important to consider that, for those who are
|already reaching the guidelines, increasing the frequency may help
|to increase the total volume of physical activity and therefore
|obtain further health benefits.” Both studies have confirmed
|that frequency of exercise has a further protective effect. Edit:
|formatting
|u/InTheEndEntropyWins - 1 day
|
|That's comparing daily exercise to weekend only exercise. That's not
|comparing it to being sedentary during the day. So best would to be
|getting in enough exercise overall and that can be on weekends, but
|you also need to not be sedentary all day, so doing some activity
|every 30-60min a day. So both studies are compatibile.
|u/Disig - 1 day
|
|I swear to God nuance is dead. You do know there's more than two
|options right?
|u/relaps101 - 1 day
|
|Awesome. I drive 11 hrs for work and travel / from work is 1 hr each
|way. So, 13 hours driving. 6 hrs sleeping. All sedentary I suppose you
|can say.
|u/CosmicLovecraft - 1 day
|
|I mean if you can have 10mins of exercise in middle of your shift that
|would break down this 10 hour sitting time.
|u/giant_albatrocity - 1 day
|
|I don’t really understand what the study is suggesting. Is the
|recommended amount of exercise just not enough, or is sitting
|continuously detrimental regardless of how much you exercise?
|u/jypKissedMyMom - 1 day
|
|The latter part
|u/Taqiyyahman - 1 day
|
|Two points of note: > There are several limitations of the study,
|including the inability to know details on where or why people are
|sitting or lying down for extended periods, such as at the workplace,
|which could have different impacts on CV risks. Accelerometers worn on
|the wrist are imperfect at detecting posture and therefore may
|misclassify standing time as sedentary time. A longer monitoring period
|may provide more accurate data on activity habits and patterns. We
|don't really know if this study means 10 hours of continuous sitting, or
|if it means 10 hours of sitting accumulated over the day, even if you
|move periodically by standing/walking around the office, or even
|changing posture or fidgeting. Second point of note to offset some of
|the doom and gloom in the comments: > Eaton said that replacing just 30
|minutes of excessive sitting time each day with any type of physical
|activity can lower heart health risks. Adding moderate-to-vigorous
|activity cut the risk of HF by 15% and CV mortality by 10%, and even
|light activity made a difference by reducing HF risk by 6% and CV
|mortality by 9%.
|u/_73r0_ - 1 day
|
|Mmmh, thanks for the info. Lemme just quit my 10h/day desk job that pays
|my insanely inflated rent and do something where my bodily needs are
|fully met - yet magically I can still provide for myself? Wow! Problem
|solved
|u/IssueEmbarrassed8103 - 1 day
|
|Thanks for the terrible news. I felt pretty good about my 2 hours of
|exercise a day before this.
|u/Difficult_Taste_2544 - 1 day
|
|Wheelchair users like me are so fucked
|u/PsychologicalSlip555 - 1 day
|
|lucky for me, i like sitting down more than i like being alive
|u/HKN47 - 1 day
|
|Every week it’s conflicting findings on everything. It seems like I
|just read an article on this sub about how standing at your desk was
|actually not good for you. Just giving up at this point.
|u/Blieven - 1 day
|
|It's not conflicting. Pure standing in place isn't great either.
|That's still being stationary but in a different position. We are
|supposed to move about and use our bodies in a variety of different
|ways. Desk jobs are so far removed from how we are optimally supposed
|to function that just a small tweak here or there is probably not
|going to cut it. Mixing up sitting and standing might be a nice
|compromise, and is probably better than just doing either of those
|two, but the real problem is that you're in one location all day, in
|mostly the same posture(s), staring ahead at a shiny light box while
|minimally moving about. It's simply not what our bodies have evolved
|to do. And even many none desk jobs aren't ideal either I reckon. A
|road worker will get back issues, a surgeon will get wrist issues,
|etc. I think the entire modern concept of having a single job that you
|do all day every day is just not mechanically ideal for us, unless
|it's a job that by design is very diverse. There's too much
|repetitiveness, which inevitably causes some sort of strain or failure
|down the road. The key is balance, which is what's really lacking in
|our modern lifestyle.
|u/Blackhalo117 - 1 day
|
|Balance would be ideal, but I think we'll always be fighting against
|diversity in job functions because for the most part specialization
|in something is usually required to be maximally productive, and
|productivity is practically worshipped in the Western world.
|u/Blieven - 1 day
|
|I know, I'm just musing on what's wrong with our modern lives. We
|get a lot of good stuff in return for it of course. And we can try
|individually to incorporate a bit more balance to strive for that
|ideal.
|u/alliusis - 1 day
|
|We can be specialized, just do it for less time. 4 day work weeks
|being the standard, and shorten the work day. In some professions
|it may not be entirely practical or would require hiring and
|training and retaining more people, (it would be trickier with
|highly specialized fields like medical), but if we look at
|automating and phasing out lower wage jobs and seriously reducing
|consumption it isn't impossible. What's the point of becoming more
|efficient and productive as a society if it doesn't mean more time
|and energy to live and enjoy life for each individual.
|u/lordofthehomeless - 1 day
|
|Look it's not about what is good or bad it's about how do you want to
|die?
|u/Disig - 1 day
|
|Balance people it's about balance. You need to MOVE your body not stay
|in one position.
|u/Anxious-Tadpole-2745 - 1 day
|
|That's because you have poor reading skills. It says in the article
|that only 10.6 hours makes a large difference. It says lower risk
|below 10.6 with lower risk with exercise and and less sitting. More
|importantly you missed: Sitting continuously and sitting with breaks
|are lumped together. If sitting consistently for 10.6 hours is very
|bad, but sitting and standing was better, that data would be hidden
|because most people who sit, simply sit for a long periods of time.
|So you would have to find a study that shows if you can see reduction
|with breaks. While having high total sit time. You would also have
|to see what other factors that aren't studied reduce CV risk for
|sitting. We know that coffee and standing or short breaks with cardio
|reduce CV risk along with exercise. CV risk factors that aren't
|evaluated: diabetes, high blood pressure, and existing heart disease.
|It could be very much that increased risk are within those particular
|groups and they overshadow everything else. Also hidden in the
|article was that the method of data taking can't tell standing from
|sitting. We do not know diets and we don't know what those that stand
|less do. Do they walk for their job or do they stand? Maybe they
|simply don't work very long and have reduced stress levels. 10.6 hours
|is a lot of sitting and could also be commute. Higher commutes are a
|stress risk. Risk is not also not a 1:1 proof of cause. This means
|that something about sitting worsens things that cause those end
|results. It could be 100% related to genetics. If your body is healthy
|and your blood work is within normal range you likely are not in the
|at risk group. I had ti write a wall of text because you have
|missed these underlying factors that can be found between the text and
|within the data. Remember that the data uses a complex formula for
|averages and that with further analysis and study, you can find
|further averages between one or more groups which add nuance to the
|broader data.
|u/Deesnuts77 - 1 day
|
|Literally everyone with an office job does this every day. I think their
|study might be flawed.
|u/LiamTheHuman - 1 day
|
|The study isn't flawed just because it says everyone is fucked
|u/Deesnuts77 - 1 day
|
|Well everyone would have been fucked since the 50s. Even though
|heart failure and CVD is bad, according to this study a much higher
|percentage of people should have died from it.
|u/ViolentBee - 1 day
|
|You can still be alive and have heart disease
|u/LiamTheHuman - 1 day
|
|What percentage does the study say should have died from it?
|u/yukon-flower - 1 day
|
|In the 50s there wasn’t email, and people weren’t necessarily
|picking up the phone on a whim either. It was a LOT of standing
|up, walking to a filing cabinet, walking back, sitting for a few
|minutes, walking down the hall, etc. Very different in the details
|of how office workers moved about.
|u/WinterElfeas - 1 day
|
|I have office job, work from home and play games as a hobby. It was
|nice knowing you.
|u/Seriously_nopenope - 1 day
|
|When I would go into the office I got about 3000 steps in. When I
|worked at home I got about 500 steps in. I would argue that WFH is
|actually making this worse.
|u/Deesnuts77 - 1 day
|
|It says it’s regardless of exercise. So you could do a 2 hour
|workout but sit down the rest of the day and you would still be
|putting yourself at risk.
|u/Seriously_nopenope - 1 day
|
|My point was I’m on my feet and walking around more at work
|because I go to meeting rooms, walk to people’s desks, to the
|washroom etc. it’s all longer distances than at home. Also spend
|more time standing discussing things with others.
|u/Quick_Turnover - 1 day
|
|I'm not sure this is true, necessarily. The study we're all
|commenting on was comparing to the "recommended level of
|exercise", which is only 20 minutes per day (and actually counted
|as 150 minutes per week). I think they'd need to study directly
|the effects of per-day exercise and how it might counter-act this
|effect, but I'm not sure how they'd accomplish that.
|u/benwight - 1 day
|
|This is exactly why I got a sit/stand desk and a walking pad. I
|started my wfh job in May last year and was getting less than 1k
|steps a day and I hit my max weight. I got the walking pad in July
|and, along with cooking and tracking what I ate, I lost 60 pounds in
|a year and now get around 10k steps per work day. If I couldn't walk
|during work hours, it'd be a struggle trying to find the motivation,
|but once I got my routine going, it's so easy to just walk for 1.5
|hours and shower on my lunch break after I'm done
|u/yukon-flower - 1 day
|
|What walking pad do you have? Congrats on all the progress!!
|u/tequilavixen - 1 day
|
|I just got a standing desk and walking pad for my WFH setup. It's
|only been a couple days but already I can see my daily steps has
|tripled
|u/The-Great-Cornhollio - 1 day
|
|I have a standing desk at my office job. Check.
|u/LaceTheSpaceRace - 1 day
|
|Standing desks have recently found to be possibly worse than
|sitting.
|[Source](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/oct/16/standing-
|desks-may-be-bad-for-your-health-study-suggests) Standing still is
|still being sedentry
|u/Valklingenberger - 1 day
|
|People invest in the standing desk but not the moving floor, why
|is this?
|u/FiftyShadesOfGregg - 1 day
|
|A few reasons at least for me personally— (1) it’s becoming more
|common for employers to provide standing desks, but not moving
|floors, so lots of people aren’t paying that extra expense out
|of their own pocket, and more importantly (2) I don’t actually
|think I could do my job very well while walking. I’m an
|attorney, so it’s a lot of reading and writing. Reading is, imo,
|very hard while your eye line is bouncing, even if trying to
|have a super steady gait. Back in law school days when I’d bring
|my reading to the gym, I got very very little done. It doesn’t
|actually seem that workable to me.
|u/LaceTheSpaceRace - 1 day
|
|Do you mean a treadmill
|u/69CunnyLinguist69 - 1 day
|
|Or escalator!
|u/obviously_suspicious - 1 day
|
|Or elevator!
|u/yukon-flower - 1 day
|
|That’s if you’re standing more than two hours total. > The team
|found that for every extra 30 minutes spent standing beyond two
|hours, the risk of circulatory disease increased by 11%. Standing
|for a few bursts throughout the day is surely better than no
|standing at all.
|u/The-Great-Cornhollio - 1 day
|
|I can tell you from my watch data that I burn more calories
|standing versus sitting. Close them rings!
|u/bartosama - 1 day
|
|I have a standing desk at my office job with treadmill under the
|desk. Check.
|u/neoncubicle - 1 day
|
|We can't all elevate our desks unfortunately. Just like we can't all
|look drop dead gorgeous with a shirt pulled over our head.
|u/p-r-i-m-e - 1 day
|
|How long have you had an office job for?
|u/Shitty_Fat-tits - 1 day
|
|Movement is life. Keep moving, people <3
|u/bloodmonarch - 1 day
|
|I guess I'll die then
|u/UnderstandingOk270 - 1 day
|
|How to mitigate those risks?
|u/yourdad01 - 1 day
|
|I'm sure my walk from my bed to my desk in the other room offsets hectic
|work days where I'm just sitting and stressing for 10+ hours. Cool
|u/Quick_Turnover - 1 day
|
|Seems the "recommended" dose is 150 minutes per week, which is only 20
|minutes per day? I wonder how much a daily 1 hour walk or other aerobic
|exercise would counteract this. I don't have much of a choice to sit for
|*at least* 8 hours a day for work, but I wonder what are the ways to
|counter this. Mid-day walks?
|u/TheLittlestOinker - 1 day
|
|What if I sit in a computer for 8 hours, sit to drive there and back for
|a total 1 hour, but then go to the gym and box for 3-4 hours every
|night, then game for a few hours before bed for a total sedentary time
|of 12 hours. Am i still screwed or does the intermittent exercise
|balance this out based on the parameters of this study?
|u/Djcnote - 1 day
|
|Does that include sleeping time?
|u/CantFindMyWallet - 1 day
|
|Just a few weeks ago there was a post in here about a study showing that
|standing too much is bad for your health. Not sure what the answer is at
|this point.
|u/Heinrich-Heine - 1 day
|
|Live your life, with variety and moderation.
|u/tatertotski - 1 day
|
|Standing still is still sedentary behavior. We’re meant to walk,
|that’s the answer.
|u/CantFindMyWallet - 1 day
|
|but I am le tired
|u/Ricecrispiebandit - 1 day
|
|Seems like a nothing statement to me. There are a lot of different
|circumstances that can result in this correlation.
|u/GitchigumiMiguel74 - 1 day
|
|Take frequent breaks and do 8 count body builders
|u/Cyrillite - 1 day
|
|Does that include sleep?
|u/yonko1254 - 1 day
|
|It’s unfortunate, but for many people, that’s just the nature of their
|work. Still, moving around whenever possible is better than staying
|completely inactive. Eating healthy, sleeping well, and staying active
|when you can probably make a big difference.
|u/FullofHel - 1 day
|
|My reddit algorithm is getting ridiculously accurate
|u/mrcity1558 - 1 day
|
|When I was working at warehouse on retail store, I was always standing
|and carrying heavy things and sometimes sales represantative. My back
|and feet always hurt and stress. Maybe I do not like physical jobs.
|u/Hraezvelg - 1 day
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|I decided to work standing (full remote) a few month ago, far better
|u/penguinpolitician - 1 day
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|It's true. Going to the gym won't offset spending hours and hours
|gaming.
|u/helmetrust - 1 day
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|Maybe I’ll stand more if I ever get to retire.
|u/PapaGeorgieo - 1 day
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|This is why I got an uplift desk. I now stand most of the day and my
|feet hurt.
|u/TrolliusJKingIIIEsq - 1 day
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|Does that 10 hours include sleep? Because if so, daaaaaamn...
|u/washu_z - 1 day
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|Good thing I’m laying down
|u/debruehe - 1 day
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|So with 8 hours of sleep you can only sit for 2.5 hours? There can't be
|too many people who manage that?
|u/Datazz_b - 1 day
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|Sleeping must kill mf's
|u/Clock586 - 1 day
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|Not sure why we need all these studies to tell us the same thing again
|and again. If more time and effort was spent on programs that promote
|health than studying all the ways not moving is bad for us we would all
|be better off
|u/hybridmodel - 1 day
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|Oh. Well seeing as I have bum hip I guess I’ll add my heart to the list
|of things I’m letting down.
|u/s416a - 1 day
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|Anyway to speed this up?
|u/Life_Patience_6751 - 1 day
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|Damn, paraplegics are toast.
|u/UnwiseMonkeyinjar - 1 day
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|I need to sit down really quick. This is not good news
|u/SwampTerror - 1 day
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|So sleep generally takes 6-8 hours of that ten hours up. That leaves you
|only able to be still for 2 hours BEFORE YOU DIE! sky falling etc.
|u/Sookimez - 1 day
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|Only 10.6 hours a day is all it takes to make a difference! Sign me up!
|u/Meryhathor - 1 day
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|That's why I often lay in my bed when working from home. No problem
|typing on my laptop like that.
|u/Lysol3435 - 1 day
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|How will being jobless and homeless affect my health? Because that’s the
|other option
|u/synkronize - 22 hours
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|Damn I code in front of a box all day and I game the rest I’m fucked
|u/Howtofightloneliness - 20 hours
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|Just like sitting was sold to us like smoking cigarettes, then they came
|back and told us standing all day is just as bad as sitting...
|u/PSFREAK33 - 7 hours
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|Well guess I’m fucked….id say atleast 3/4 of my life has been on my ass
|u/Corporate_Manager - 4 hours
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|Living is also very poor for heart health in the long run. We are all
|going to the ground soon either way, even if you do nothing but run all
|day and drink green smoothies.
|u/robsbob18 - 1 day
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|Does this include time sleeping? Both overnight and a nap during the
|day?
|u/Visual_Discussion112 - 1 day
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|This may sound like a dumb question but: how about lie down instead of
|sitting? Is it less dangerous than sitting because the heart doesn’t
|have to pump as hard as sitting because of less gravity on the legs?
|Edit:I mean between 8 hours sitting down with a pc and 8 hours lie down
|on the bed with a pc which is better?
|u/InTheEndEntropyWins - 1 day
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|>I mean between 8 hours sitting down with a pc and 8 hours lie down on
|the bed with a pc which is better? I think all we can say is that
|both are bad for you. I don't know which is worse, but that's kind of
|the wrong way to be thinking about it.
|u/RenegadeAccolade - 1 day
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|1. sleep recommended 8 hours 2. 30 minute commute to non-sedentary work
|3. 30 minute commute back 4. DON’T SIT DOWN OR REST YOU ONLY HAVE AN
|HOUR OF SEDENTARY BEHAVIOR LEFT BEFORE YOUR HEART FAILS
|u/patricksaurus - 1 day
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|Well, I (try to) sleep so I guess I’m fucked.
|u/Fair_Lie4051 - 1 day
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|I never sit longer then 15 minutes. Even if my job is sitting,i just
|stand and move. In summer i walk more than 15000 steps per Day. I hate
|sitting, working in a office for 30 Days,31 has the month, i quit!
|Healthy Future to All of you
|u/iamnotchad - 1 day
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|Finally some good news.
|