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overthinking entertainment
Movie: Venom: The Last Dance
Eddie and Venom are on the run. Hunted by both of their worlds and with the net closing in, the duo are forced into a devastating decision that will bring the curtains down on Venom and Eddie's last dance.
posted by TheophileEscargot on Nov 07, 2024 at 10:20 PM
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Well that was... just about OK. I expected them to turn up the volume a bit more for the last episode of a trilogy, but it wasn't very apocalyptic: just battling a few monsters in an isolated area. Also seemed a bit pointless to beam him into the MCU universe (OK, Earth-616) only to bring him straight back.
I'm not sure how Venom managed to drag several xenophages away while not in Eddie's body at the end: usually it seemed like multiple embodied symbiotes couldn't do much to stop a single one. Wikipedia says Venom merged with them, but how come the other symbiotes couldn't do that?
posted by TheophileEscargot at 10:33 PM
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the ending was incoherent.
kiddo and i were so mad they wrote it in a way that Eddie should have been vaporized by the explosion and still survived. like it wouldn't have taken much to write that workably (I've replaced the ending in my head with sparky symbiote saves christmas and eddie while general dickhead nobly refuses and sacrifices himself).
also that montage? wt everlovin fuck. eddie wasn't even present for some of those moments.
posted by kokaku at 11:53 PM
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that said, we had fun... great bad? bad great? either way.
posted by kokaku at 11:53 PM
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There seems to be more and more superhero movies that just end up a mess: The Marvels, Madame Web, Venom: The Last Dance, The Flash. Maybe before the cheap CGI era, having to assemble sets and costumes and choreography meant you had to have a coherent script and stick somewhat close to it. Now they just seem to film a bunch of character scenes, and try to decide or re-decide the basic plot and tone of the movie in post.
posted by TheophileEscargot at 1:42 AM
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Maybe before the cheap CGI era, having to assemble sets and costumes and choreography meant you had to have a coherent script and stick somewhat close to it.
Oh, gosh no, that's just the nostalgia talking. The Christopher Reeve Superman movies had two really good ones and then the quality took a nosedive. Same for the Batman movies; as much as some people love the Joel Schumacher movies, they're still basically "throw whatever shit you can think of at the wall and see what sticks." And FWIW, I liked The Marvels just fine (spoilers); the villain wasn't much of a much, but they're not all winners.
posted by Halloween Jack at 6:59 AM
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I think even the worst of the older Batman and Superman movies were more coherent.
Example, in "Venom: The Last Dance" you have the whole scene with the twins, one of them is struck by lightning and killed, the other grows up to be the scientist and then... nothing.
In the comics apparently one of the symbionts has an electrical superpower, presumably in an earlier draft that had some connection to the lightning experience. But in this edit, the lightning scene has no purpose.
Or in "The Rise of Skywalker" you had that scene where Finn wants to tell Rey something, but is delayed, and you never find out what it was.
I don't think it used to be so common that they would just fail or forget to excise all the scenes in a subplot and leave these "relic scenes" that don't serve any purpose in the cut. Though maybe that's more due to digital editing than VFX, I suspect that the editors are under a lot more time pressure now.
posted by TheophileEscargot at 8:03 AM
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Seems like this movie's doing reasonably well at the box office: three weeks in the top spot though in a slow period.
Also apparently "Venom 2: Let There Be Carnage" is not available for streaming on any platform. You can tell how crummy the state of streaming is, if you can't legally stream the previous installment of the current box office #1 movie anywhere.
posted by TheophileEscargot at 3:10 AM
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