Path: network.ucsd.edu!ucbvax!hplabs!sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail From: werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.announce Subject: COMP.SYS.MAC.ANNOUNCE: " Just the Basics" (Version 94/1) Summary: Infrequently Posted Basic Information you should know about this newsgroup Message-ID: <CMM.0.90.2.759029660.werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu> Date: 20 Jan 94 01:42:01 GMT Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Reply-To: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig) Followup-To: poster Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Lines: 192 Approved: werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu (Comp.sys.mac.announce Moderator) NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu Table of Contents ___________________ What is Comp.Sys.Mac.Announce? How Does it Work? About Moderating What this newsgroup is NOT available for How News-software recognizes "authorized messages" Old CSMA-traffic Available for FTP Can't FTP? Troubles? Suggestions? Ideas? Should Something Be Added to This Article? What is Comp.Sys.Mac.Announce? ------------------------------ Comp.sys.mac.announce is moderated as a service group, meaning that the/this moderator intends to adjust policies as would seem to benefit (and be desired by) the majority of comp.sys.mac.* readers... ... essentially, the intent is to provide a low-volume forum exclusively for information which is considered to be (highly) important to become aware of in a timely manner for (all) users To be brief, I frequently summarize the moderating filter with: Must Be IMPORTANT to Know About to MOST Mac Users, VERY IMPORTANT to MANY, or VITAL to SOME.... How Does it Work? ----------------- Any time you post to a moderated newsgroup, the news-software at YOUR news-host intercepts the article and sends it as email to the moderator (and, btw, if you crosspost to any unmoderated groups, the article will not appear there immediately, and not at all unless/until the moderator decides to crosspost there also) Your news-software is kept informed automagically about which newsgroups are moderated and what the email-address is at which the moderator EXPECTS to receive news-articles... (in my case, it is CSMA@rascal.ics.utexas.edu) for further details read up on news on your machine, and ask questions of your news/site-administrator, or post it to an appropriate newsgroup (news.groups, for example); do read all articles posted regularly to news.announce.newusers FIRST ! About Moderating: ----------------- Moderators do not (often) author articles, nor do they search for appropriate information elsewhere, digesting and forwarding it from other groups or sources (though all of this certainly does happen). Articles are posted (or submitted) by interested netters familiar with the purpose of the group, and the moderator plays the role of editor ensuring that articles remain focused and relevant. Moderating is a volunteer job and rejecting articles is "no fun at all" (for either parties, of course); so the desirable goal from everyone's perspective should be to see the group achieve its goal (of quick dissemination of all "important" news and information) with the least amount of fuss. Having to reformat, spell-check, condense, rewrite, or even reject articles is certainly not considered part of the fun of moderating; nor is explaining or discussing the finer points of the moderating policies or differences between accepted and rejected articles. Your cooperation to make this mostly unnecessary is warmly appreciated. NOTE: Submitted articles must be free of copyright and other use restrictions and the moderator reserves the right and option, to "fold and mutilate" any message (edit, modify, condense, rewrite, etc.) in whatever manner s/he sees fit, (including combining with other articles, adding comments, and reposting to other newsgroups and/or mailing-lists (using perfectly good judgement and taste, of course ;-) What this newsgroup is NOT available for (so, please, don't bother): ------------------------------------------------------------------- (i) questions or personal requests (try any of the topical comp.sys.mac.* groups) (ii) for sale announcements of ANY kind (misc.forsale.computer.mac was created for that!) (iii) announcements of new products or product variations the moderator makes exceptions, occasionallly, for items of relevance to, practically, all Mac users; at most a small subset of Apple's press releases do pass that test, however. (comp.newprod is the ONLY group in the non-commercial USEnet hierarchy created for (some) such traffic...) (iv) update or new version announcements (except if they remedy a particularly insiduous bug or are otherwise "verrrry interesting"! :-) it is tempting to call for the creation of new groups, such as comp.sys.mac.newprod and comp.sys.mac.updates (and many would support such a motion, but new volunteers to do the work would have to step forward) How News-software recognizes "authorized messages": --------------------------------------------------- Your news software "knows" about moderated newsgroups and who the moderator is through messages posted to a special Control-newsgroup. It recognizes "approved" articles by the pressence of a special message header (the news-software does not bother the reader by displaying many of the administra- tive headers accompanying each message; the reader often has control over such things by setting certain parameters which depend on your specific news software, however) generally, there is a verbose command which allows you to view all headers of a message (v for 'verbose' in most UNIX-based readers) Old CSMA-traffic Available for FTP: ------------------------------------ Archives of group traffic (plus some additional information) is available for anonymous FTP in directory mac/csma from host RASCAL.ICS.UTEXAS.EDU in files: articles.current (many/most) articles of the current and previous month articles.recent (most/all) articles of the previous year Can't FTP? ---------- If you don't have FTP access, send e-mail to mail-server@RTFM.MIT.EDU and include a line containing "send usenet/news.answers/finding-sources" in the message body. Instructions on how to use FTP- sites via e-mailed commands will reach you shortly. Troubles? --------- readers occassionally report that they do not get to see all posted articles; sometimes this can be remedied by your news-admin (in any case you should consult her about such problems, as she can/should avoid expiring articles in groups like this for 30 days -- or not at all is what I recommend to avoid that each and every Mac-user creates a personal and duplicate collection of articles) Suggestions? Ideas? ------------------- For people who wish to be actively involved in determining the contents of (present and future) Macintosh oriented moderated newsgroups, I have set up a (automatically administrated by MajorDomo, a relative of LISTSERV) mailing-list for feedback and discussions (named CSMA-FORUM) for more information (such as how to subscribe and unsubscribe) please send an email message addressed to MAJORDOMO@rascal.ics.utexas.edu and include as message text the line INFO CSMA-FORUM Should Something Be Added to This Article? ------------------------------------------ I welcome suggestions of information to add to this article (especially when ready and written up so I can simply include it), but this article is not intended to grow much larger...