Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 10:54:28 -0700
From: sholden@cod.nosc.mil (Steve Holden)
Subject: Re:  New Info. Sheet

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This email group was created to provide users and developers a
forum to ask questions, bounce ideas, and expand members
knowledge of ACI's 4th Dimension. This is an informal group, 
with no rules except proper email etiquette. 

If you are in doubt of what proper email etiquette entails
either do:

    an anonymous FTP to isig.mit.edu, and get the file
 
        Primer/usenet-primer.
 
    There are other very useful Internet based documents in 
    the /Primer directory.
    
or if you *don't* have FTP access send a request to:

    sholden@cod.nosc.mil for the usenet-primer 
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How many people are in the group? (as of May 1993): 330

Increase since Jan. 1993: 123

What is the make-up of the group? (approximation):

                    Jan. 1993    May 1993
         Education     49%         43% 
        Commercial     18%         25%
          Military      3%          2%
        Government      6%          5%
            Other*     24%         25%
      
* sites that do not end in .edu, .com, .mil, and .gov.
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Subscription from Internet:

    If you want to join (or be deleted from) the list, you need 
    to email a request to:

            4d-request@mit.edu

Posting to the whole group from Internet:

   Mail your post to:

            4d@mit.edu
         
If you have any problems with the mailing list, please contact: 

   - mlbarrow@mit.edu (Michael L Barrow)

He is the administrator of this list. 

This is NOT a listserv list, so you can't send mail commands at
it or anything like that -- sorry. 

If anyone wants any nerdy information about how the list is
maintained, just ask and he will be glad to tell you. 
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Subscription from non-Internet sources:
  
    To subscribe from CompuServe (CI$) you need to send an 
    email message in this format:
  
            > internet:4d-request@mit.edu (entered at 
                                           'Send to:' prompt)
  
    To subscribe from American On-Line (AOL) you need to send
    an message in this format:
  
            4d-request@mit.edu (entered in the normal 
                                screenname field)
  
    To subscribe from AppleLink (AL) you need to send an email
    message  in this format:
  
            4d-request@mit.edu@internet#
 
Posting to the whole group from non-Internet sources:
  
    CompuServe (CI$):
  
            > internet:4d@mit.edu 
  
    American On-Line (AOL):
  
            4d@mit.edu
  
    AppleLink (AL):
  
            4d@mit.edu@internet# 
    
WARNING:  The above services may or may not have some sort of 
          service fee for send and receive email to Internet. 
          And may frown upon joining an email list.
  
          If you are having troubles, please contact the 
          respective email help provided by the service.
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There are now two 4D ftp sites:

The first is at:
 
            - sumex-aim.stanford.edu (36.44.0.6)

    Everything is in the directory:
            - info-mac/dev/a4d (which is read only)

    Send uploads and questions to:
            - breck@kirk.ecs.umass.edu (Liam Breck)

    If you are having troubles contact:
            - Liam at above address, or
            - Info-Mac-Request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu

    This archive is accesible by anonymous ftp to it and its 
    mirror sites around the world (wuarchive@wustl.edu is a 
    US mirror).  It can also be accessed with gopher and the 
    Internet email ftp server.

The second is at:
            - bu.edu or (128.197.27.7)

    Everything is in the directory:
            - /mac/4d
         
    Send uploads or if you are having problems to:
            - kalena@bu.edu (Karen R. Sabog)
    
    The bu.edu site is a mirror ftp site for the 4d
    directory at sumex-aim.  Also, the bu.edu site contains 
    textual information like educational and retail prices, ACI
    software updates when permitted, product descriptions,
    press releases, etc.
    
    By the summer of 1993 there should be gopher and WAIS 
    access to the 4D files and information.
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The group is currently in the process of creating a Frequently
Asked Question (FAQ) document.  Contact:

    - breck@kirk.ecs.umass.edu (Liam Breck)
 
for more information (expected release date is Fall 1993).
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This basic informaiton file was created by:

    Steve Holden
    Macintosh System/Applications Engineer
    Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC)
         
    Internet: sholden@cod.nosc.mil
       Voice: (619) 553-6750
         
If there are any changes to be made please email a request to 
the email address listed above.

Please feel free to distribute this information.
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