Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 10:54:28 -0700 From: sholden@cod.nosc.mil (Steve Holden) Subject: Re: New Info. Sheet --------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 4D Email Group ----- --------------------------------------------------------------- This email group was created to provide users and developers a forum to ask questions, bounce ideas, and expand members knowledge of ACI's 4th Dimension. This is an informal group, with no rules except proper email etiquette. If you are in doubt of what proper email etiquette entails either do: an anonymous FTP to isig.mit.edu, and get the file Primer/usenet-primer. There are other very useful Internet based documents in the /Primer directory. or if you *don't* have FTP access send a request to: sholden@cod.nosc.mil for the usenet-primer --------------------------------------------------------------- How many people are in the group? (as of May 1993): 330 Increase since Jan. 1993: 123 What is the make-up of the group? (approximation): Jan. 1993 May 1993 Education 49% 43% Commercial 18% 25% Military 3% 2% Government 6% 5% Other* 24% 25% * sites that do not end in .edu, .com, .mil, and .gov. --------------------------------------------------------------- Subscription from Internet: If you want to join (or be deleted from) the list, you need to email a request to: 4d-request@mit.edu Posting to the whole group from Internet: Mail your post to: 4d@mit.edu If you have any problems with the mailing list, please contact: - mlbarrow@mit.edu (Michael L Barrow) He is the administrator of this list. This is NOT a listserv list, so you can't send mail commands at it or anything like that -- sorry. If anyone wants any nerdy information about how the list is maintained, just ask and he will be glad to tell you. --------------------------------------------------------------- Subscription from non-Internet sources: To subscribe from CompuServe (CI$) you need to send an email message in this format: > internet:4d-request@mit.edu (entered at 'Send to:' prompt) To subscribe from American On-Line (AOL) you need to send an message in this format: 4d-request@mit.edu (entered in the normal screenname field) To subscribe from AppleLink (AL) you need to send an email message in this format: 4d-request@mit.edu@internet# Posting to the whole group from non-Internet sources: CompuServe (CI$): > internet:4d@mit.edu American On-Line (AOL): 4d@mit.edu AppleLink (AL): 4d@mit.edu@internet# WARNING: The above services may or may not have some sort of service fee for send and receive email to Internet. And may frown upon joining an email list. If you are having troubles, please contact the respective email help provided by the service. --------------------------------------------------------------- There are now two 4D ftp sites: The first is at: - sumex-aim.stanford.edu (36.44.0.6) Everything is in the directory: - info-mac/dev/a4d (which is read only) Send uploads and questions to: - breck@kirk.ecs.umass.edu (Liam Breck) If you are having troubles contact: - Liam at above address, or - Info-Mac-Request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu This archive is accesible by anonymous ftp to it and its mirror sites around the world (wuarchive@wustl.edu is a US mirror). It can also be accessed with gopher and the Internet email ftp server. The second is at: - bu.edu or (128.197.27.7) Everything is in the directory: - /mac/4d Send uploads or if you are having problems to: - kalena@bu.edu (Karen R. Sabog) The bu.edu site is a mirror ftp site for the 4d directory at sumex-aim. Also, the bu.edu site contains textual information like educational and retail prices, ACI software updates when permitted, product descriptions, press releases, etc. By the summer of 1993 there should be gopher and WAIS access to the 4D files and information. --------------------------------------------------------------- The group is currently in the process of creating a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ) document. Contact: - breck@kirk.ecs.umass.edu (Liam Breck) for more information (expected release date is Fall 1993). --------------------------------------------------------------- This basic informaiton file was created by: Steve Holden Macintosh System/Applications Engineer Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) Internet: sholden@cod.nosc.mil Voice: (619) 553-6750 If there are any changes to be made please email a request to the email address listed above. Please feel free to distribute this information. ---------------------------------------------------------------