Subj : Classes And Exams (I) To : All From : Daryl Stout Date : Mon Mar 04 2019 12:06 am (CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE) Original License Documents and Identification Required ====================================================== The VE team is REQUIRED to personally VERIFY THE IDENTITY of EVERY CANDIDATE wishing to test. This is why you need to have the ORIGINAL of your photo ID, ham radio license, and/or CSCE, if applicable. If the VE team suspects that ANY of these have been ALTERED or FORGED, they will make copies of such documents, and report them to the proper authorities. In the case of an altered/forged state government issued ID, ham radio license or CSCE, you could face heavy fines and prison time; (fines for unauthorized operation range from $7500 to $10,000, if not more). Believe me, it's NOT worth the risk. If the FCC determines you have a "character issue", you could be stripped of your amateur radio license FOR LIFE...or DENIED one in the first place (with "The felony Question", noted above). The PHOTOCOPY of the license and CSCE's will be sent off with the license application and exam data...the ORIGINAL ID documents will be RETURNED to their respective owners IMMEDIATELY after the VE Team has verified their identities. Some, BUT NOT ALL, exam sites will have the capability to make the photocopy of the identification and license documents for you, but it's wise to check with the contact person for the exam session, to see if that is the case. While your name, address, callsign, and license class, are public domain on the FCC ULS, QRZ, or other callsign data websites...other personal data (such as date of birth, home phone, email address, Social Security Number, etc.) are kept STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL. On the QRZ website, one must actually be "logged in" to view an email, if the person has entered the data. As noted above, your FRN takes the place of your Social Security Number on your amateur radio license...and your SSN (or your exam score...let alone how many times it took you to pass the exam(s)) will NOT show up on any of the callsign database servers. Also, eventually all examinees will be REQUIRED to have an FRN assigned BEFORE going to a license exam session, as the SSN will no longer be accepted on the NCVEC Form 605. Prior Exam Credit and Upgrading Examples ======================================== Once you pass an exam element, and have either the ORIGINAL of your license and/or valid CSCE to prove such, you won't have to take that element again; as long as your license is unexpired, or is within the 2 year grace period of renewal after expiration. As noted above, neither Novice or Advanced Class licenses are issued anymore, as of April 15, 2000...and, Morse Code is NO LONGER REQUIRED for any U.S. amateur radio license exam, as of Feb. 23, 2007. Novice and Advanced class licensees may continue to use their privileges, as long as their licenses aren't expired. However, they have different "exam credit" toward upgrading, as noted below: Item presented for license exam credit: Elements: ======================================= ========= Novice license (unexpired or expired) NONE Technician license March 21, 1987 or later (expired >2 years) NONE Technician license March 21, 1987 or later (expired <2 years) 2 ONLY Technician license March 21, 1987 or later (unexpired) 2 ONLY Technician license March 20, 1987 or before (expired >2 years) 3 ONLY Technician license March 20, 1987 or before (expired <2 years) 2 and 3 Technician license March 20, 1987 or before (unexpired) 2 and 3 General or Advanced license (expired >2 years) 3 ONLY General or Advanced license (unexpired, or expired <2 years) 2 and 3 Amateur Extra (expired >2 years) 3 and 4 Amateur Extra (unexpired, or expired <2 years) 2, 3, and 4 Certificate Of Successful Completion Of Examination (CSCE) See Note Note: A CSCE for "element credit" by itself, without any kind of ham radio license is NOT valid for "on the air operations". You MUST already have been issued a valid FCC Ham Radio license to legally "get on the air". If you have been issued a CSCE within the last 365 days for the indicated license element credit, you have credit for that element as well. You MUST pass, or otherwise have credit for, all lower amateur radio license classes to upgrade to a higher license class. If you are missing one of these lower class elements, in effect, you have NO LICENSE. Once the CSCE is older than 365 days, it is WORTHLESS. In a non-leap year, a CSCE issued on July 1, expires at 12 midnight local time on June 30 of the following year. Using a leap year example, the expiration of the CSCE is 12 midnight local time, June 29, of the following year. If you fail to bring the ORIGINAL of your current license, and the ORIGINAL of applicable CSCE's, you may be REQUIRED to take those elements AGAIN...even though you already have taken and passed them before. If your current amateur radio license reflects the same type of license class noted on the CSCE, you can either discard the CSCE, or keep it as a novelty. (CONTINUED NEXT MESSAGE) --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32 * Origin: RadioWxNet: The Thunderbolt BBS tbolt.synchro.net (801:1/2)